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TheUS–China
high-tech
competitionis
modernizing
American
industries: an
interview with
KeithKrach
The tech mogul
discusses the
importance of fostering
clusters in the US
semiconductor market,
expanding the clean
network, investing in
automation and solar
technology, and
creating more awareness about
the China challenge at the
executive level.
The idea of competing with China as an alliance of
value-driven democracies has gained tremendous
momentum over the past four years through the
architecting efforts of Keith Krach. A wildly successful
tech mogul who founded Ariba and led DocuSign,
he also served as Undersecretary of Economic Growth,
Energy, and the Environment for the US Department
of State.
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As the country’s leading economic diplomat, Krach
set out to develop and operationalize a global
economic security strategy that focused on three
items: driving economic growth, maximizing national
security, and addressing the China challenge. To
accomplish these tasks, his team identified three
pillars: turbocharging US economic competitiveness
through tech innovation, safeguarding America’s
assets, and building a network of trusted partners.
Through his tenure at the Department of State, Krach
built all three pillars. And although he is no longer
serving as Undersecretary, he is still focused on
turbocharging American tech innovation and seeing
legislation crafted to further his efforts.
Kearney consultant Drew DeLong sat down with Krach
to ask how these trends will continue to develop, how
they’ll impact US manufacturing, and how America can
win in this economic competition with China.
D rew DeLong: We’ve lost 37 to 12 percent of the
semiconductor space. But now, we have Taiwan
Se miconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited
(T SMC) onshoring and Samsung committing to a new
$ 17 billion foundry. How is this momentum going to
play out?
Keith Krach: While running economic diplomacy at
the State Department, my mission was to develop and
operationalize a global economic security strategy
that drove economic growth, maximized national
security, and addressing the China Challenge. We
developed that strategy with three pillars:
— Turbocharge economic competitiveness and
technological innovation.
— Safeguard America’s assets: intellectual property,
healthcare, and financial systems.
— Build a clean network of trusted partners.
The first pillar, turbocharging economic competitive -
ness, drove what became the Endless Frontier Act. We met
with Senators Chuck Schumer and Todd Young a year and
a half ago, and we showed them that with a $100 billion—
now $150 billion—investment, we could grow to $500
billion of investment with private-sector and technological
allies matching
our investments. These allies, called the D10 (the G7plus
India, Australia, and South Korea), are crucial to rallying
investments. Furthermore, we’re going
to incentivize participation in this alliance of
democracies bygiving opencommercialaccessto
the technological research generated by
the investment.
The $250BCHIPS for America Act was also
introduced and put in the US Innovation and
Competition Act (USICA) to provide more than
$50 billion for federal funding for foundry
construction, research, and development
support.
We also managed to onshore TSMC in two
weeks. I knew some of the board of
directors. We talked nightly, and we figured
if we can get them to announce, two things
will happen:
— It will serve as a catalyst for other
semiconductor manufacturing foundries to
onshore. We’ve now seen that happen with
Samsung bringing in $16 billion of
investment to either Texas or Arizona andIntel
bringing in $20 billion into Arizona.
— It will serve as a catalyst for Congress to
allocate money. The reality is that China,
Korea, Japan, and Taiwan bought the US
business and then subsidized it heavily, and
we needed to spend the money to buy the
business back. We’ve now seen that, with the
bipartisan CHIPS Act led by Senators Cornyn
and Warner, we’re committing more than $50
billion directly.
So the good news for business is: Here comes
$250 billion, the level of the Apollo program,
coming in to help tech and manufacturing
sectors—10 specifically defined sectors in clean
energy, autonomous vehicles, quantum
computing, and others—to drive the indus- trial
base, which is vital to America’s national
security. This gives us something to rally
industrialists and tech titans around. Now, the key
is to get matches from the private sector. We did
our research: everyone loved this idea, both in
the private sector and from our closest
economic allies.
The implications are going to be staggering.
This is agreat opportunity for the private sector
to turbocharge their competitive advantage
because they get the luxury of long-term investments
that are built to last— not just having to worry about
the 90-day shot clock of an earnings report. This
legislation incentivizes industry to invest in long-
term technology, and we can grow with economies of
scale as a result.
It is imperative that this technology is commercialized
and safeguarded from theft and forced technology
transfers. If our allies and the private sector match our
investment, they get access to the research the
moment it comes out for commercial benefit—a true
pay-to-play model. If they don’t, they might face a
two-year delay or something similar.
Drew DeLong: Looking ahead 10 years, what other
ways do you see industry ramping up in the face of
uncertainty? W hat does winning look like to manu-
fa cturing right now ? H ow d o you w in?
Keith Krach: When we onboarded TSMC, they
brought their top nine suppliers with them. Those
suppliers are now bringing in their suppliers. An
ecosystem is forming. This clustering effect is particu-
larly evident in the semiconductor industry, very
similar to Detroit with the automotive industry. You
want to begin to build that clustering effect in key
industries, particularly in manufacturing. That is what
success looks like.
Another good example of where the industry will be
going is clean energy. We all want to do something in
climate change, and the key is innovation. Clean
energy is going to be as big as the computer and
software industry. We must lead it and own that, if
nothing else for jobs and GDP growth.
Here’s the inconvenient truth: industry experts are
saying 70 percent of the world’s energy will be solar by
2050. It just so happens that China owns the solar
energy business. There are 10 top companies in that
sector. Eight are in China. One is in the United States:
it’s called First Solar, and it has a 2 percent market
share. There’s a Korean one that owns 5 percent. The
other 93 percent is China.
Where do they manufacture their solar panels?
Xinjiang. The average labor cost in the solar business
in Xinjiang is $700 a month. For Europe, the United
States, and Japan, competition is impossible. The
other thing about the solar panel business is that it’s
incredibly energy-intensive. The amount of energy
that a solar panel puts out in three years is the same
amount of energy that it takes to manufacture it. So
why are the Chinese making the panels in Xinjiang?
Because that’s where the two biggest coal-fired
plants in the world are. That’s where the open-pit
coal mines are.
As we all know, energy security is national security:
wars are begun and lost because of energy. If we do
nothing, we’re totally dependent on China for our
energy, and that’s not where we want to be.
“We have to rally our
manufacturingtitans
onceagain.”
Keith Krach
K e ith Krach, former Undersecretary of Economic
Growth, Energy, and the Environment for the US
Department of State
D rew DeLong: It’s difficult to compete with $700 a
m onth. Historically, our labor cost is America’s
greatest challenge with our manufacturing competi-
tiveness. Within USICA, there’s incentives for
b uilding supply chains in Latin America, the
C a ribbean, and West Africa. So does winning in that
space look like developing outsourced manufac-
turing in neighboring areas or something where we
have to invest so heavily in this industry that we have
to bite the bullet in the short term to lower costs to
ga in our energy independence? How do we get to
e nergy independence first when we’re competing
a gainst such low labor costs?
Keith Krach: Right, so there is good news. Let’s
look at supply chains. Why did we originally go to
China? Because the cost of labor was so low. For
regular workers, that cost of labor has now
increased. Also, back then, the level of automation
and advanced manufacturing and robotics was not
there. Now it is.
Automation now means more than the cost of
labor. Innovation also now means more than the
cost of labor. When you increase the level of
automation, shipping costs and other inputs become
more important. In the future, that looks like more
automated plants. How do you get around $700 in
labor costs? You make it in advanced manufacturing,
robotics, flexible manufacturing systems, and
automated guided vehicles, and you build factories of
the future. That’s what’s crucial.
D rew DeLong: With automation comes concerns
a bout lack of jobs. How do we quickly ramp up the
w orkforce so we don’t wait four to five cycles for more
college STEM graduates?
Keith Krach: The most important thing is the people
side of the equation in the skilled labor force. How
do we bring these people who are screwing nuts and
bolts on the assembly line and teach them how to
program robots? I’ve been involved in that forever,
and it’s all about driving productivity. It’s also the
number-one factor in increasing the standard of
living. It’s factory automation, office productivity,
and increasing their skills.
At Purdue when we hired Mitch Daniels, we put a big
emphasis on STEM and retraining the workforce. We
bought Kaplan’s online education program and
created Purdue University Global, where you can get
your engineering degree—Purdue Quality—all online.
It’s become a national treasure and model for
retraining the workforce. In the USICA, there’s a huge
emphasis (more than $4 billion) on retraining the
workforce. We need to relook at our visa program and
make sure when we graduate engineers and scientists
from around the world, we can help pave the way to
citizenship because they want to stay here, and that’s
really a key aspect. This is all about bringing the
industries here.
Interviewer
Drew DeLong
Consultant, Dallas
drew.delong@kearney.com
D rew DeLong: China has appointed a chip czar with a
$ 1 trillion budget. We’re ramping up with 25 percent tax
b reaks, $52 billion in public investment, and
onshoring. How does this end? What’s our end game
a gainst an opponent that isn’t playing by the rules?
H ow do we win?
Keith Krach: Here’s the end game: it comes back to
the clean network. Why has China been winning?
They’ve used the things we honor against us. $1 trillion
tells you how important the semiconductor industry is
to them. We have to stand by our core trust principles.
We have opened clean networks to any country, but if
you don’t pledge and honor the rules of the clean
network, then you can’t join the network.
You either play by the rules or you’re excluded from
80 percent of the market. And that’s huge. This clean
network is just like NATO: if you retaliate against one
of us, you retaliate against all of us.
We then do a free trade agreement with everyone in
the clean network. If one nation puts up tariffs and
sanctions, we all put them up as a united front. It’s
important to do this to maintain the moral high ground.
China can take its pick: be excluded from 80 percent
of the global market or reform. You have to build for
the long term. We rallied the industrialists for WWII:
Henry Ford made planes, Walter Chrysler made tanks,
Pierre DuPont changed all 45 GM and DuPont plants
to make weapons, Henry Kaiser was a shipbuilder.
They’re one of the most important reasons for
winning the war, and now we have to do the same
thing in this economic war. We have to rally our
manufacturing titans once again.
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  • 2. The tech mogul discusses the importance of fostering clusters in the US semiconductor market, expanding the clean network, investing in automation and solar technology, and creating more awareness about the China challenge at the executive level. The idea of competing with China as an alliance of value-driven democracies has gained tremendous momentum over the past four years through the architecting efforts of Keith Krach. A wildly successful tech mogul who founded Ariba and led DocuSign, he also served as Undersecretary of Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment for the US Department of State. Photo by Nick Ande r so n Kear n e y, Washi ng to n, D.C.
  • 3. As the country’s leading economic diplomat, Krach set out to develop and operationalize a global economic security strategy that focused on three items: driving economic growth, maximizing national security, and addressing the China challenge. To accomplish these tasks, his team identified three pillars: turbocharging US economic competitiveness through tech innovation, safeguarding America’s assets, and building a network of trusted partners. Through his tenure at the Department of State, Krach built all three pillars. And although he is no longer serving as Undersecretary, he is still focused on turbocharging American tech innovation and seeing legislation crafted to further his efforts. Kearney consultant Drew DeLong sat down with Krach to ask how these trends will continue to develop, how they’ll impact US manufacturing, and how America can win in this economic competition with China. D rew DeLong: We’ve lost 37 to 12 percent of the semiconductor space. But now, we have Taiwan Se miconductor Manufacturing Company, Limited (T SMC) onshoring and Samsung committing to a new $ 17 billion foundry. How is this momentum going to play out? Keith Krach: While running economic diplomacy at the State Department, my mission was to develop and operationalize a global economic security strategy that drove economic growth, maximized national security, and addressing the China Challenge. We developed that strategy with three pillars: — Turbocharge economic competitiveness and technological innovation. — Safeguard America’s assets: intellectual property, healthcare, and financial systems. — Build a clean network of trusted partners. The first pillar, turbocharging economic competitive - ness, drove what became the Endless Frontier Act. We met with Senators Chuck Schumer and Todd Young a year and a half ago, and we showed them that with a $100 billion— now $150 billion—investment, we could grow to $500 billion of investment with private-sector and technological allies matching our investments. These allies, called the D10 (the G7plus India, Australia, and South Korea), are crucial to rallying investments. Furthermore, we’re going to incentivize participation in this alliance of democracies bygiving opencommercialaccessto the technological research generated by the investment.
  • 4. The $250BCHIPS for America Act was also introduced and put in the US Innovation and Competition Act (USICA) to provide more than $50 billion for federal funding for foundry construction, research, and development support. We also managed to onshore TSMC in two weeks. I knew some of the board of directors. We talked nightly, and we figured if we can get them to announce, two things will happen: — It will serve as a catalyst for other semiconductor manufacturing foundries to onshore. We’ve now seen that happen with Samsung bringing in $16 billion of investment to either Texas or Arizona andIntel bringing in $20 billion into Arizona. — It will serve as a catalyst for Congress to allocate money. The reality is that China, Korea, Japan, and Taiwan bought the US business and then subsidized it heavily, and we needed to spend the money to buy the business back. We’ve now seen that, with the bipartisan CHIPS Act led by Senators Cornyn and Warner, we’re committing more than $50 billion directly. So the good news for business is: Here comes $250 billion, the level of the Apollo program, coming in to help tech and manufacturing sectors—10 specifically defined sectors in clean energy, autonomous vehicles, quantum computing, and others—to drive the indus- trial base, which is vital to America’s national security. This gives us something to rally industrialists and tech titans around. Now, the key is to get matches from the private sector. We did our research: everyone loved this idea, both in the private sector and from our closest economic allies. The implications are going to be staggering. This is agreat opportunity for the private sector to turbocharge their competitive advantage because they get the luxury of long-term investments that are built to last— not just having to worry about the 90-day shot clock of an earnings report. This legislation incentivizes industry to invest in long- term technology, and we can grow with economies of scale as a result. It is imperative that this technology is commercialized and safeguarded from theft and forced technology transfers. If our allies and the private sector match our investment, they get access to the research the moment it comes out for commercial benefit—a true pay-to-play model. If they don’t, they might face a two-year delay or something similar.
  • 5. Drew DeLong: Looking ahead 10 years, what other ways do you see industry ramping up in the face of uncertainty? W hat does winning look like to manu- fa cturing right now ? H ow d o you w in? Keith Krach: When we onboarded TSMC, they brought their top nine suppliers with them. Those suppliers are now bringing in their suppliers. An ecosystem is forming. This clustering effect is particu- larly evident in the semiconductor industry, very similar to Detroit with the automotive industry. You want to begin to build that clustering effect in key industries, particularly in manufacturing. That is what success looks like. Another good example of where the industry will be going is clean energy. We all want to do something in climate change, and the key is innovation. Clean energy is going to be as big as the computer and software industry. We must lead it and own that, if nothing else for jobs and GDP growth. Here’s the inconvenient truth: industry experts are saying 70 percent of the world’s energy will be solar by 2050. It just so happens that China owns the solar energy business. There are 10 top companies in that sector. Eight are in China. One is in the United States: it’s called First Solar, and it has a 2 percent market share. There’s a Korean one that owns 5 percent. The other 93 percent is China. Where do they manufacture their solar panels? Xinjiang. The average labor cost in the solar business in Xinjiang is $700 a month. For Europe, the United States, and Japan, competition is impossible. The other thing about the solar panel business is that it’s incredibly energy-intensive. The amount of energy that a solar panel puts out in three years is the same amount of energy that it takes to manufacture it. So why are the Chinese making the panels in Xinjiang? Because that’s where the two biggest coal-fired plants in the world are. That’s where the open-pit coal mines are. As we all know, energy security is national security: wars are begun and lost because of energy. If we do nothing, we’re totally dependent on China for our energy, and that’s not where we want to be. “We have to rally our manufacturingtitans onceagain.” Keith Krach
  • 6. K e ith Krach, former Undersecretary of Economic Growth, Energy, and the Environment for the US Department of State D rew DeLong: It’s difficult to compete with $700 a m onth. Historically, our labor cost is America’s greatest challenge with our manufacturing competi- tiveness. Within USICA, there’s incentives for b uilding supply chains in Latin America, the C a ribbean, and West Africa. So does winning in that space look like developing outsourced manufac- turing in neighboring areas or something where we have to invest so heavily in this industry that we have to bite the bullet in the short term to lower costs to ga in our energy independence? How do we get to e nergy independence first when we’re competing a gainst such low labor costs? Keith Krach: Right, so there is good news. Let’s look at supply chains. Why did we originally go to China? Because the cost of labor was so low. For regular workers, that cost of labor has now increased. Also, back then, the level of automation and advanced manufacturing and robotics was not there. Now it is. Automation now means more than the cost of labor. Innovation also now means more than the cost of labor. When you increase the level of automation, shipping costs and other inputs become more important. In the future, that looks like more automated plants. How do you get around $700 in labor costs? You make it in advanced manufacturing, robotics, flexible manufacturing systems, and automated guided vehicles, and you build factories of the future. That’s what’s crucial.
  • 7. D rew DeLong: With automation comes concerns a bout lack of jobs. How do we quickly ramp up the w orkforce so we don’t wait four to five cycles for more college STEM graduates? Keith Krach: The most important thing is the people side of the equation in the skilled labor force. How do we bring these people who are screwing nuts and bolts on the assembly line and teach them how to program robots? I’ve been involved in that forever, and it’s all about driving productivity. It’s also the number-one factor in increasing the standard of living. It’s factory automation, office productivity, and increasing their skills. At Purdue when we hired Mitch Daniels, we put a big emphasis on STEM and retraining the workforce. We bought Kaplan’s online education program and created Purdue University Global, where you can get your engineering degree—Purdue Quality—all online. It’s become a national treasure and model for retraining the workforce. In the USICA, there’s a huge emphasis (more than $4 billion) on retraining the workforce. We need to relook at our visa program and make sure when we graduate engineers and scientists from around the world, we can help pave the way to citizenship because they want to stay here, and that’s really a key aspect. This is all about bringing the industries here. Interviewer Drew DeLong Consultant, Dallas drew.delong@kearney.com D rew DeLong: China has appointed a chip czar with a $ 1 trillion budget. We’re ramping up with 25 percent tax b reaks, $52 billion in public investment, and onshoring. How does this end? What’s our end game a gainst an opponent that isn’t playing by the rules? H ow do we win? Keith Krach: Here’s the end game: it comes back to the clean network. Why has China been winning? They’ve used the things we honor against us. $1 trillion tells you how important the semiconductor industry is to them. We have to stand by our core trust principles. We have opened clean networks to any country, but if you don’t pledge and honor the rules of the clean network, then you can’t join the network. You either play by the rules or you’re excluded from 80 percent of the market. And that’s huge. This clean network is just like NATO: if you retaliate against one of us, you retaliate against all of us. We then do a free trade agreement with everyone in the clean network. If one nation puts up tariffs and sanctions, we all put them up as a united front. It’s important to do this to maintain the moral high ground. China can take its pick: be excluded from 80 percent of the global market or reform. You have to build for the long term. We rallied the industrialists for WWII: Henry Ford made planes, Walter Chrysler made tanks, Pierre DuPont changed all 45 GM and DuPont plants to make weapons, Henry Kaiser was a shipbuilder. They’re one of the most important reasons for winning the war, and now we have to do the same thing in this economic war. We have to rally our manufacturing titans once again.
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