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CHEW MORE: DEEPER
Saturday 4th
April 2015
Chew More
Deeper
Dr Bex Lewis
Social Media & Online Learning, CODEC
Director, Digital Fingerprint
T: @drbexl
W: drbexl.co.uk
Dr Krish Kandiah
President, London School of Theology
Founder/Director, Home for Good
T: @krishk
W: krishk.com
Roots
Dr Krish Kandiah
ROOTS
DEEPER
14
For this reason I kneel before the
Father, 15
from whom every family in
heaven and on earth derives its name.
16
I pray that out of his glorious riches
he may strengthen you with power
through his Spirit in your inner being,
17
so that Christ may dwell in your
hearts through faith. Ephesians 3:14-
17
Paul likens them first to a well-rooted tree,
and then to a well-built house. In both cases
the unseen cause of their stability will be the
same: love. Love is to be the soil in which
their life is to be rooted; love is to be the
foundation on which their life is built. One
might say that their love is to be of both a
‘radical’ and a ‘fundamental’ nature in their
experience, for these English words refer to
our roots and our foundations.
JOHN STOTT
THE RADICAL FUNDAMENTALS
what does it mean to be
radically rooted?
what are the fundamentals of
our faith?
@krishk
Sitting - waiting
Dr Bex Lewis
False Gospel?
When it comes to issues of
contextualization, however, Christians
and churches must be careful to not
fall to the right or the left. In my last
post, I described what I believe to be
one of the major issues plaguing
American Christianity: obscurantism;
that is, obscuring the gospel by
emphasizing things that are actually
external to the gospel as being central
to it. The end result is a false gospel
that becomes a stumbling block to
those Christians and churches are
trying to reach.
Syncretism, in this case, is the mixing
of Christianity with something else
such that they become a different
gospel. Syncretism can take place with
a positive-thinking gospel, a nationalist
emphasis, or emerging culture.
Syncretism happens more than we
might know.
When anything is added to the
message of the gospel, the uniqueness
and sufficiency of Christ is
compromised and another gospel can
be created that is, well, actually
not the gospel.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2014/june/avoiding-pitfall-of-syncretism.html
Workaholism
Again, I’m all for reaching past our typical anti-workaholic bias
and striving for a healthy “work-life fusion” over a lazy and an
overly leisure-obsessed “work-life balance,” but achieving a
successful integration demands far more of us than blind self-
gratification and finding a job that’s easy to love. Indeed, God
will often call us to discover such meaning in a job we
currently despise. Without the proper attention and care, the
“do what you love” mantra can just as easily be interpreted by
excuse-making hedonists as “indulge thyself” as it can be
contemplated by Christians as “follow your God-given
directive.” Joseph Sunde
http://blog.acton.org/archives/50348-work-life-fusion-re-thinking-workaholism-in-christian-context.html
STOP: DRINK!
Rest
http://www.bible-reflections.net/articles/the-importance-of-rest/2446/
Rev Pam Smith
https://audioboom.com/boos/3047857-talking-about-mary-martha-with-revpamsmith
Wholeness?
But when it comes to the subject of wholeness, the
unique element that Jesus brings to the discussion is
that of transformation into the image of God. Our
character is not simply formed through knowledge,
rituals and discipline. One is transformed by faith in the
work and power of Wholly Jesus. The Imageo Dei is the
Holy Grail for humanity. It is what we are in search of
constantly. It is how we live the painting of life. We are
meant to possess the character of God.
Mark Wesley Foreman, Wholly Jesus: His surprising approach to wholeness and why it matters today, p133
https://www.facebook.com/QueenofYourOwnLife/photos/a.117055872566.96947.9
5823147566/10153053802212567/?type=1&theater
“Accept some of your own limits today – not out
of laziness or fear, but out of contentment and
assurance”
Brian Draper, Lent E-Mail Series, 2015
http://briandraper.org/engage
Image Credit: Purchased from Stockfresh
http://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/
Discuss
• What stops us sitting in God’s
presence?
• Why are we so busy? Culture?
Expectations? Being needed?
• When God seems to be missing, is it
Him or us?
Filled, not shriveling
Dr Krish Kandiah
FILLED
DEEPER
And I pray that you, being rooted
and established in love, 18may
have power, together with all the
Lord’s people, to grasp how wide
and long and high and deep is the
love of Christ, 19and to know this
love that surpasses knowledge—
that you may be filled to the
measure of all the fullness of God.
Ephesians 3:17-
19
WHAT DO WE MEAN BY
THE FILLING OF THE SPIRIT?
When do you receive the Holy Spirit?
Is being filled a separate experience?
What is meant by a second blessing?
What are the signs of being filled?
What happens if we use a liquid metaphor of the Spirit?
THE
SPIRIT
a) Through the Spirit we come to know who Jesus is and what he has
done for us and so our conversion is a work of the Spirit
b) Through the Spirit we are empowered to live the Christian life
c) Through the Spirit we are united with Christ
d) Through the Spirit the fruit of the Spirit are worked into our
characters
e) Through the Spirit the gifts of the Spirit are operative in our
churches today
THE SPIRIT
is fully God 1 Corinthians 12:4-6 Matthew 28:18-20
is a person (eg only persons can be grieved Ephesians 4:30-31)
is the Spirit of Jesus John 20:11-13
is at work in our conversion John 16:8
makes us part of the church 1 Corinthians 12:13
empowers us for witness Acts 1:6-8
guarantees our future inheritance Ephesians 1:13-14
a) we do not have Christ
b) we cannot please God
c) we will not be transformed in our
affections & behaviours
d) we fail to experience life to the full
without the spirit
Chew More: Deeper
Find slides: http://www.slideshare.net/drbexl
Dr Bex Lewis
Social Media & Online Learning, CODEC
Director, Digital Fingerprint
T: @drbexl
W: drbexl.co.uk
Dr Krish Kandiah
President, London School of Theology
Founder/Director, Home for Good
T: @krishk
W: krishk.com

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#SH2015 Day 3: Deeper (with @krishk & @drbexl)

  • 1. CHEW MORE: DEEPER Saturday 4th April 2015
  • 2. Chew More Deeper Dr Bex Lewis Social Media & Online Learning, CODEC Director, Digital Fingerprint T: @drbexl W: drbexl.co.uk Dr Krish Kandiah President, London School of Theology Founder/Director, Home for Good T: @krishk W: krishk.com
  • 5. 14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16 I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. Ephesians 3:14- 17
  • 6. Paul likens them first to a well-rooted tree, and then to a well-built house. In both cases the unseen cause of their stability will be the same: love. Love is to be the soil in which their life is to be rooted; love is to be the foundation on which their life is built. One might say that their love is to be of both a ‘radical’ and a ‘fundamental’ nature in their experience, for these English words refer to our roots and our foundations. JOHN STOTT
  • 7. THE RADICAL FUNDAMENTALS what does it mean to be radically rooted? what are the fundamentals of our faith?
  • 10. False Gospel? When it comes to issues of contextualization, however, Christians and churches must be careful to not fall to the right or the left. In my last post, I described what I believe to be one of the major issues plaguing American Christianity: obscurantism; that is, obscuring the gospel by emphasizing things that are actually external to the gospel as being central to it. The end result is a false gospel that becomes a stumbling block to those Christians and churches are trying to reach. Syncretism, in this case, is the mixing of Christianity with something else such that they become a different gospel. Syncretism can take place with a positive-thinking gospel, a nationalist emphasis, or emerging culture. Syncretism happens more than we might know. When anything is added to the message of the gospel, the uniqueness and sufficiency of Christ is compromised and another gospel can be created that is, well, actually not the gospel. http://www.christianitytoday.com/edstetzer/2014/june/avoiding-pitfall-of-syncretism.html
  • 11. Workaholism Again, I’m all for reaching past our typical anti-workaholic bias and striving for a healthy “work-life fusion” over a lazy and an overly leisure-obsessed “work-life balance,” but achieving a successful integration demands far more of us than blind self- gratification and finding a job that’s easy to love. Indeed, God will often call us to discover such meaning in a job we currently despise. Without the proper attention and care, the “do what you love” mantra can just as easily be interpreted by excuse-making hedonists as “indulge thyself” as it can be contemplated by Christians as “follow your God-given directive.” Joseph Sunde http://blog.acton.org/archives/50348-work-life-fusion-re-thinking-workaholism-in-christian-context.html
  • 15. Wholeness? But when it comes to the subject of wholeness, the unique element that Jesus brings to the discussion is that of transformation into the image of God. Our character is not simply formed through knowledge, rituals and discipline. One is transformed by faith in the work and power of Wholly Jesus. The Imageo Dei is the Holy Grail for humanity. It is what we are in search of constantly. It is how we live the painting of life. We are meant to possess the character of God. Mark Wesley Foreman, Wholly Jesus: His surprising approach to wholeness and why it matters today, p133
  • 17. “Accept some of your own limits today – not out of laziness or fear, but out of contentment and assurance” Brian Draper, Lent E-Mail Series, 2015 http://briandraper.org/engage Image Credit: Purchased from Stockfresh
  • 19. Discuss • What stops us sitting in God’s presence? • Why are we so busy? Culture? Expectations? Being needed? • When God seems to be missing, is it Him or us?
  • 20. Filled, not shriveling Dr Krish Kandiah
  • 22. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18may have power, together with all the Lord’s people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19and to know this love that surpasses knowledge— that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God. Ephesians 3:17- 19
  • 23. WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THE FILLING OF THE SPIRIT? When do you receive the Holy Spirit? Is being filled a separate experience? What is meant by a second blessing? What are the signs of being filled? What happens if we use a liquid metaphor of the Spirit?
  • 24. THE SPIRIT a) Through the Spirit we come to know who Jesus is and what he has done for us and so our conversion is a work of the Spirit b) Through the Spirit we are empowered to live the Christian life c) Through the Spirit we are united with Christ d) Through the Spirit the fruit of the Spirit are worked into our characters e) Through the Spirit the gifts of the Spirit are operative in our churches today
  • 25. THE SPIRIT is fully God 1 Corinthians 12:4-6 Matthew 28:18-20 is a person (eg only persons can be grieved Ephesians 4:30-31) is the Spirit of Jesus John 20:11-13 is at work in our conversion John 16:8 makes us part of the church 1 Corinthians 12:13 empowers us for witness Acts 1:6-8 guarantees our future inheritance Ephesians 1:13-14
  • 26. a) we do not have Christ b) we cannot please God c) we will not be transformed in our affections & behaviours d) we fail to experience life to the full without the spirit
  • 27. Chew More: Deeper Find slides: http://www.slideshare.net/drbexl Dr Bex Lewis Social Media & Online Learning, CODEC Director, Digital Fingerprint T: @drbexl W: drbexl.co.uk Dr Krish Kandiah President, London School of Theology Founder/Director, Home for Good T: @krishk W: krishk.com

Editor's Notes

  1. So, Cris started us off with thinking about how much we try and add to (or substitute) for the gospel as presented to us, and how this affects our theology… how much have we taken on from our culture, about the need to be busy, the ‘protestant work ethic’, etc. Refers to Fr Duncan and the fact that he prioritised prayer over all, and how counter-cultural we find that, and reminded of Youthwork the Conf with Justin Welby – gets up early to pray before the day starts … Time to discuss what some of these might be – that have been over-emphasised (e.g. importance of head-coverings, a particular form of liturgy, etc. or how things have been mixed – worries people had when I trained as a life coach (although I do believe is compatible, have to have wisdom when reading some of the literature).
  2. In times of grief (and Holy Saturday is surely a time to grieve), I don’t know about you but I tend to get super-busy to shove stuff out of my head, and our culture approves of that… http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-workaholism.html p.152 – Justin Welby/
  3. STOP  DRINK deep, not just doing = be refreshed. Part of the emphasis that Cris has put in his book is the idea that properly rooted = less likely to be swayed by the troubles of life (and the temptations to be like everyone else) – well watered roots will deepen… (although I don’t know about you – I sometimes feel I’ve learnt enough!) and be able to stand up for those things that are valued, and for the unique ‘us’ that God created us to be… So I wanted to read out something that I wrote a couple of years ago (and that I still need to keep reminding myself of):
  4. May 2012. The sun is beating down on my head in the gardens of Mottisfont Abbey in Hampshire. I crawl under the shade of a tree and try to get my tired mind to be ‘creative’. I’ve made a conscious effort to move away from my desk, but now all I want to do is snooze. I have come to Mottisfont Abbey as Brian Draper (Less is More) recently brought me here as part of a guided retreat, where he’d both encouraged me to consider the need to constantly return to “the source”, and to sit still and take on board the W.H.Davies poem: “What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare”.   I did a search on Bible Gateway for the word “rest”, and in the New Living Translation it returned 508 entries, including being at the root of words ‘restoration’ and ‘restriction’.  One that resounded for me was:  It is useless for you to work so hard from early morning until late at night, anxiously working for food to eat; for God gives rest to his loved ones. (Psalm 127:2) Taking time to rest and reflect is a real challenge for me, and as highlighted by Rev Kate Bruce in a recent Big Bible post, it’s not down to the technology that so many associate with me. I find great value in conversations, collaboration and research online. Before computers, I used to spend hours writing letters, and getting lost in other people’s worlds in books, rather than sitting, staring, and recouping.  As an Oak Hall tour leader, I remember leading Morning Prayer on the theme of rest.  Doctors have said that if we don’t rest enough, God has designed our bodies to enforce that rest. God set the example: On the seventh day God had finished his work of creation, so he rested from all his work. (Genesis 2:2) In the Second World War, the government attempted to implement 8-day working weeks in attempts to increase productivity, but found that both the amount produced, and the quality, decreased. Leviticus is particular emphatic about this, with many references to the need to allow land to lie fallow every 7 years.  As I lay there, my body tired after a week of illness, I absorbed the sound of the wind, ‘smelt’ the sun, and watched a small bird hopping around the lawn. I was so still it came almost within touching distance of me –if I had chased after it would have run away. It reminded me of the time I had been to Doubtful Sound in New Zealand, where the boat stopped on a mirror lake, all noise stopped, and the profound silence gave way to the sounds of nature, as we allowed all our senses to work. In a similar way a series of ideas that had been chasing around the edges of my thinking were coming towards me. The deadlines still continue to roll but this verse continues to encourage me:  Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. (Matt 11:28) What ways do you find to take ‘time out’? What verses encourage you when life is tough?
  5. 60-90 second video re Mary/Martha, and the temptation to be so in a digital age.
  6. WAIT – realising we are dependent on God – wholeness = not til heaven – this book continues to say that God created us to be fully human, and that Jesus was sent to return us to the blueprint of God’s original design, without whom we are only almost human – we have dependence – we can’t do it all ourselves?
  7. Partly because I love these – but we do feel the pressure to be a certain way, can we get out of our own way, step back, re-root ourselves, and be who God created us to be…
  8. Always challenged by Brian’s writings – this was recently – I am a busy achiever – can we stop, just for a bit, make space for God to speak into the situation… God can do life in the trenches with us – difficult times, mental health challenges, family difficulties (and that’s just me…) …