Selling = Dating
The Rules are the Same


   Joseph G. Scott, MAS
VP – Scott & Associates, Inc.
Learning to Sell/Date
•   $15.5 Billion spent/yr. on Sales Training
•   $932 Million spent/yr. Dating Services
•   We’re better at Dating than Selling
•   Let’s apply our Dating Skills to Selling
Why is it so hard to Sell/Date?
• “It’s not the Selling that’s difficult – It’s finding
  the ones who want to Buy”
             Source: Dan Scott – 1994 – Age: 8 years



• “It’s not the Dating that’s difficult – It’s finding
  the ones who want to Go Out”
             Source: Joe Scott – 2013 – Age: 58 years
My Dating Site/LinkedIn Profile
Bad/Inappropriate Sales Training?
• I was taught (in the 70’s) smart answers to
  stupid questions, for example:
• If the objection was, “It’s too expensive!”
• I was taught to say, “If it wasn’t too expensive,
  then in your opinion do you feel that you
  would buy it”
• What a bunch of ****!
Bad/Inappropriate Sales Training?
• I learned (the hard way) that it was all about
  the client, their problems and opportunities
• The first computer that I sold: It took my
  client 3 weeks to get their invoices out, which
  cost them $ 70,000/year
• The computer would do that in one day – He
  wrote a check on-the-spot.
Selling/Dating Cycle
                   Prospecting = “Cruising”
Targeted Prospecting = Looking for Love in All the Right Places
                 Qualifying = Can/Will They?
                  Appointment(s) = Date(s)
                     Proposal = Proposal
              Close = An Exchange of Some Sort
           Repeat Business = Budding Relationship
               Increased Business = “Benefits”
                     Referral = Blind Date
             Long-Term Relationship = Marriage
                 Lose the Account = Divorce
       Large Low/No-Margin Client = Fatal Attraction
Prospecting = ”Cruising”
•   Can be random
•   Quality may be suspect
•   Low ROI
•   Lots of rejection
•   Transaction-oriented (One-night Stand)
•   Rarely turns into a long-term relationship
Targeted Prospecting = Looking for
      Love in All the Right Places
• A large building changed hands
• I studied their web site and found that Friday
  was “Take your dog to work” day
• I called the Marketing Department
  receptionist and said, “I have to work with you
  guys – you must be fun people!”
• I brought our Schnauzer to the appointment
Learning to Sell/Date
• If you begin a relationship thinking only of
  What’s In It For Me? – you’ll probably fail
• If you begin a relationship thinking only of
  What Can I Do For You? – that’s the key
• The second approach is, at first, very difficult –
  especially when you are new to selling and
  have to pay your mortgage!
• “Desperation in the Singles Bars”
               Source: The Eagles - Shoes
Qualifying: Can/Will They?
• At a Chamber of Commerce meeting, I sat
  next to a business owner whom I didn’t know.
• He turned to the person to his left and asked,
  “What Do You Do For A Living?”
• The answer was, “I sell Ad Specialties.”
• The business person said, “Please pass the
  butter.”
               NO DATE FOR YOU!
Qualifying = Can/Will They?
• Him: “Joe, WDYDFAL?”
• Me: “I help my clients attract and retain
  customers and employees.” (Pick-up Line!)
• Him: “How do you do that?”
• Me: “Tell me about (yourself) a challenge or
  opportunity that you face with either
  customers or employees and I’ll give you some
  examples.”
        NOW WE’RE ON A MAN-DATE!
Appointment(s) = Date(s)
• When you get past the WDYDFAL phase and
  get together – your place (office) or mine
  (office) or neutral territory
Proposal = Proposal
• When you determine what is important to
  them (what they want, where does it hurt,
  what drives you nuts), present it in detail and
  get acceptance.
Close = An Exchange
• I gave the business owner some examples and
  the subject changed to hobbies and interests.
  He told me that his son wanted to buy a drum
  set. I offered to take him and his son to my
  favorite music store and help select his
  instrument, which I did.
• The first “exchange” of our relationship was
  personal and I helped him by using my
  “network”. Adding value…
Example: How does this work?
• Later, I gave him a call to see how his son was
  doing – the son was driving him nuts because he
  was playing all the time –which was great!
• He then asked me to put together a proposal to
  help him promote a new product at a trade show.
• I suggested that we have a preliminary discussion
  over a “four-hour real estate inspection” (golf)
• For me, golf helps determine what someone is
  REALLY like (temperament, honesty, humor)
Repeat Business = Relationship
• Was it good for you?
• Let’s do it again!
Increased Business = Deepening
• You can date other people – And It’s OK, just
  make sure that you don’t talk about “the
  others” unless you are asked
Referral = A Blind Date
• I know this really nice guy/gal..
• You’d be so GREAT together!
• You’d make a CUTE couple!
Long-term Relationship = Marriage
• You know you can “count on the orders”
• You are getting internal and external referrals
• Celebrate your anniversaries!

        DO NOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
Lose The Account = Divorce
• Most relationships end, and customers leave,
  due to a lack of interest and attention
• Hopefully, you can “still be friends”
Large, Low-Margin Client =
               Fatal Attraction
•   Don’t be seduced by “The Big One”
•   The feelings = intense
•   The courtship = long
•   The relationship = too long
•   Your “return” = low
•   The “maintenance” level = high
•   The cost to you = high
•   You will lose other, more satisfying relationships
Prologue = Lessons Learned
“People buy from people they like, AND”
   It’s fairly easy to get someone to like you –
              and “Like” can be superficial


“Continue to buy from those they trust”
   It is not easy to get someone to trust you
         And trust can be lost very quickly
Men Selling to Women
• Please excuse the generalities:
• Similar to being on Oprah – more of a personal
  interview (these are questions that I have been
  asked): What is your wife’s name? How did you
  meet? How long did you date before you got
  engaged? When did you know that she was “the
  one”? Do you have any children? What do you
  do for your anniversaries? Do you like to cook?
  What is your favorite kind of food? Any pets?
Women Selling to Men
• Please excuse the generalities (again):
• Similar to being on Letterman – more of a
  “Stuff and Things” interview (these are
  questions that have been asked of female
  sales reps that I know): Do you play golf?
  What kind of car do you drive? Where do you
  go on vacation? Are you married? How about
  lunch/dinner?
• It takes much more skill to navigate here!
Opposites = Attraction?
• No, Shared Values Do
• Opposites, Diversity of Thought & Opinions
  are the “Traction” in Attraction
• The “Attractants” will not be the reason you
  are together in the long-term – They will
  change over time, and will become less
  significant or meaningless
Complications!
• What do you do when a client or potential
  client is attracted to you in a way that makes
  you uncomfortable?
• Don’t visit in person or phone for a while – e-
  mail is a perfectly acceptable means of doing
  business in our industry – Plus, if anything
  untoward occurs via e-mail you have a written
  record

Selling = dating

  • 2.
    Selling = Dating TheRules are the Same Joseph G. Scott, MAS VP – Scott & Associates, Inc.
  • 3.
    Learning to Sell/Date • $15.5 Billion spent/yr. on Sales Training • $932 Million spent/yr. Dating Services • We’re better at Dating than Selling • Let’s apply our Dating Skills to Selling
  • 4.
    Why is itso hard to Sell/Date? • “It’s not the Selling that’s difficult – It’s finding the ones who want to Buy” Source: Dan Scott – 1994 – Age: 8 years • “It’s not the Dating that’s difficult – It’s finding the ones who want to Go Out” Source: Joe Scott – 2013 – Age: 58 years
  • 5.
  • 6.
    Bad/Inappropriate Sales Training? •I was taught (in the 70’s) smart answers to stupid questions, for example: • If the objection was, “It’s too expensive!” • I was taught to say, “If it wasn’t too expensive, then in your opinion do you feel that you would buy it” • What a bunch of ****!
  • 7.
    Bad/Inappropriate Sales Training? •I learned (the hard way) that it was all about the client, their problems and opportunities • The first computer that I sold: It took my client 3 weeks to get their invoices out, which cost them $ 70,000/year • The computer would do that in one day – He wrote a check on-the-spot.
  • 8.
    Selling/Dating Cycle Prospecting = “Cruising” Targeted Prospecting = Looking for Love in All the Right Places Qualifying = Can/Will They? Appointment(s) = Date(s) Proposal = Proposal Close = An Exchange of Some Sort Repeat Business = Budding Relationship Increased Business = “Benefits” Referral = Blind Date Long-Term Relationship = Marriage Lose the Account = Divorce Large Low/No-Margin Client = Fatal Attraction
  • 9.
    Prospecting = ”Cruising” • Can be random • Quality may be suspect • Low ROI • Lots of rejection • Transaction-oriented (One-night Stand) • Rarely turns into a long-term relationship
  • 10.
    Targeted Prospecting =Looking for Love in All the Right Places • A large building changed hands • I studied their web site and found that Friday was “Take your dog to work” day • I called the Marketing Department receptionist and said, “I have to work with you guys – you must be fun people!” • I brought our Schnauzer to the appointment
  • 11.
    Learning to Sell/Date •If you begin a relationship thinking only of What’s In It For Me? – you’ll probably fail • If you begin a relationship thinking only of What Can I Do For You? – that’s the key • The second approach is, at first, very difficult – especially when you are new to selling and have to pay your mortgage! • “Desperation in the Singles Bars” Source: The Eagles - Shoes
  • 12.
    Qualifying: Can/Will They? •At a Chamber of Commerce meeting, I sat next to a business owner whom I didn’t know. • He turned to the person to his left and asked, “What Do You Do For A Living?” • The answer was, “I sell Ad Specialties.” • The business person said, “Please pass the butter.” NO DATE FOR YOU!
  • 13.
    Qualifying = Can/WillThey? • Him: “Joe, WDYDFAL?” • Me: “I help my clients attract and retain customers and employees.” (Pick-up Line!) • Him: “How do you do that?” • Me: “Tell me about (yourself) a challenge or opportunity that you face with either customers or employees and I’ll give you some examples.” NOW WE’RE ON A MAN-DATE!
  • 14.
    Appointment(s) = Date(s) •When you get past the WDYDFAL phase and get together – your place (office) or mine (office) or neutral territory
  • 15.
    Proposal = Proposal •When you determine what is important to them (what they want, where does it hurt, what drives you nuts), present it in detail and get acceptance.
  • 16.
    Close = AnExchange • I gave the business owner some examples and the subject changed to hobbies and interests. He told me that his son wanted to buy a drum set. I offered to take him and his son to my favorite music store and help select his instrument, which I did. • The first “exchange” of our relationship was personal and I helped him by using my “network”. Adding value…
  • 17.
    Example: How doesthis work? • Later, I gave him a call to see how his son was doing – the son was driving him nuts because he was playing all the time –which was great! • He then asked me to put together a proposal to help him promote a new product at a trade show. • I suggested that we have a preliminary discussion over a “four-hour real estate inspection” (golf) • For me, golf helps determine what someone is REALLY like (temperament, honesty, humor)
  • 18.
    Repeat Business =Relationship • Was it good for you? • Let’s do it again!
  • 19.
    Increased Business =Deepening • You can date other people – And It’s OK, just make sure that you don’t talk about “the others” unless you are asked
  • 20.
    Referral = ABlind Date • I know this really nice guy/gal.. • You’d be so GREAT together! • You’d make a CUTE couple!
  • 21.
    Long-term Relationship =Marriage • You know you can “count on the orders” • You are getting internal and external referrals • Celebrate your anniversaries! DO NOT TAKE IT FOR GRANTED!
  • 22.
    Lose The Account= Divorce • Most relationships end, and customers leave, due to a lack of interest and attention • Hopefully, you can “still be friends”
  • 23.
    Large, Low-Margin Client= Fatal Attraction • Don’t be seduced by “The Big One” • The feelings = intense • The courtship = long • The relationship = too long • Your “return” = low • The “maintenance” level = high • The cost to you = high • You will lose other, more satisfying relationships
  • 24.
    Prologue = LessonsLearned “People buy from people they like, AND” It’s fairly easy to get someone to like you – and “Like” can be superficial “Continue to buy from those they trust” It is not easy to get someone to trust you And trust can be lost very quickly
  • 25.
    Men Selling toWomen • Please excuse the generalities: • Similar to being on Oprah – more of a personal interview (these are questions that I have been asked): What is your wife’s name? How did you meet? How long did you date before you got engaged? When did you know that she was “the one”? Do you have any children? What do you do for your anniversaries? Do you like to cook? What is your favorite kind of food? Any pets?
  • 26.
    Women Selling toMen • Please excuse the generalities (again): • Similar to being on Letterman – more of a “Stuff and Things” interview (these are questions that have been asked of female sales reps that I know): Do you play golf? What kind of car do you drive? Where do you go on vacation? Are you married? How about lunch/dinner? • It takes much more skill to navigate here!
  • 27.
    Opposites = Attraction? •No, Shared Values Do • Opposites, Diversity of Thought & Opinions are the “Traction” in Attraction • The “Attractants” will not be the reason you are together in the long-term – They will change over time, and will become less significant or meaningless
  • 28.
    Complications! • What doyou do when a client or potential client is attracted to you in a way that makes you uncomfortable? • Don’t visit in person or phone for a while – e- mail is a perfectly acceptable means of doing business in our industry – Plus, if anything untoward occurs via e-mail you have a written record