This document discusses scaling agile without frameworks and focuses on the limits of teams, products, and dependencies. It makes the following key points: Focus and independence are limits to scaling. Too many products per team or teams per product lead to loss of focus and coordination challenges. Dependencies between teams introduce risks to integration. Dividing products into independent sub-products and using techniques like Scrum of Scrums can help improve communication at scale. Release trains can synchronize teams but may slow overall delivery. Automating integrations is also suggested. While frameworks like SAFe and Nexus are mentioned, the document emphasizes checking with the Agile Manifesto and discovering what the product is through techniques like Lean Startup before