Rion Johnson has an online discussion about the nature of the self or "I". Several people question Rion about whether an "I" truly exists or is just a thought. After struggling with the concept, Rion goes sailing but is still miserable due to memories. He looks again for the "I" but cannot find it, causing his suffering to dissipate. Rion now believes the "I" is just a thought and feels both disappointed yet relieved to see there is no true self. He credits Viv Westbrook for pushing him to look and ultimately see there is no central doer behind experiences.

1. Rion Johnson It doesnt feel like anything
Thursday at 9:26am · Like
Jeff Montgomery Rion, Is it important to have an "I"??
Thursday at 9:27am · Like
Mircea Mateica What do you expect ... a welcome comitee??? FUCKING LOOK
Thursday at 9:28am · Like
Jeff Montgomery What would it feel like not to have one?
Thursday at 9:28am · Like
Mihai Macrea What is the 'I' then? Who writes this?
Thursday at 9:28am · Like
Mircea Mateica HOW WAS THE FUCKING I CREATED?
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Rion Johnson Mircea fuck off your just annoying. My brain writes this Mihai, in response to the
questions.
Thursday at 9:32am · Like
Mircea Mateica WHO IS FUCKING ANNOYED? Say "I am" and find out where the "I" comes from
Thursday at 9:33am · Like
Mihai Macrea A response, ok. Is there a real 'I' in there? A seeer of the question and a responder
of the question?
Thursday at 9:35am · Like
Rion Johnson No, a thought in my head tries to take credit for it.
Thursday at 9:36am · Like
Mircea Mateica In whos head?
Thursday at 9:37am · Like
Mihai Macrea Yes, is there anything else beside thoughts, something separate? Don't think it.
Look and see if there is something separate?
Thursday at 9:38am · Like

2. Rion Johnson something seperate cannot be seen
Thursday at 9:40am · Like
Rion Johnson or observed or whatever
Thursday at 9:41am · Like
Mircea Mateica keep digging ... LOOK until you are SURE there is no I
Thursday at 9:41am · Like
Mihai Macrea ok, mate you're at the edge. What's the I?
Thursday at 9:42am · Like
Rion Johnson how can something that cant be found be described?
Thursday at 9:48am · Like
Mircea Mateica LOOK ... is there an I in any sense or form?
Thursday at 9:50am · Like
Viv Westbrook When you say "I feel this" - what is happening? What is THAT 'I', What does that
sentence refer to?
Thursday at 9:51am · Like
Mihai Macrea You say: "no I can be found", a "thought In my head tries to take credit for it",
What is that is seing all this?
Thursday at 9:55am · Like
Rion Johnson still here still working it out
Thursday at 10:12am · Like
Rion Johnson guys im stuggling here to come up with anything, I cant find an I, i dont know what
the sentence refers to. it is just being seen by i dont know what
Thursday at 10:24am · Like
Viv Westbrook Good. You don't know. Can it be known? Is there something that can be pinned
down? Named? Defined? Examined?
Thursday at 10:34am · Like
Rion Johnson no

3. Thursday at 10:35am · Like
Viv Westbrook What do you know? Right now. What is undeniably known?
Thursday at 10:36am · Like
Rion Johnson I cant know
Thursday at 10:38am · Like
Viv Westbrook So where does that leave you?
Thursday at 10:38am · Like
Rion Johnson what do you mean?
Thursday at 10:39am · Like
Viv Westbrook Well, what IS there?
Thursday at 10:39am · Like
Rion Johnson nothing is there just thoughts, stimuli, the same as it was before
Thursday at 10:41am · Like
Viv Westbrook If you ignore the labels - can you find any centre to any of it? Does what happens
have any location?
Thursday at 10:45am · Like
Rion Johnson There doesnt seem to be any
Thursday at 10:53am · Like
Rion Johnson going to bed now.
Thursday at 11:00am · Like
Viv Westbrook Ok. Rion. Sleep well.
Thursday at 11:01am · Like
Viv Westbrook And when you wake tomorrow morning - see if there is a central doer that does
the waking, that moves the body out of bed. But for now, sleep tight.
Thursday at 11:02am · Like
Mircea Mateica Doesn't seem to be any? Fucking LOOK until you are SURE there is no I

4. Thursday at 11:25am · Like
Mihai Macrea Rion, have a good sleep
Thursday at 11:57am · Like
Elena Nezhinsky This Riiiiion guy really like all to be comfortable - sleep time, sail time..For how
long he will be playing us? Either come tonight to work with guys or you are out. 24 hours. It's
Aug 25 9pm eastern time. countdown started.
Yesterday at 2:31am · Like
Mihai Macrea Hey Rion, there is a challenge out here. Come out, come out from wherever you
are. Be a man and face it.
Yesterday at 8:44am · Like · 1 person
Machiel van Dijk Rion Johnson
Yesterday at 11:53am · Like
Rion Johnson guys im still here ill be able to be around a computer around 9;00pm pacific
standard tome tonight. i definetly want to see this through. Its time. Thank you for all of yours
time.
18 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky I am counting, Rion. So come tonight and get serious looking, otherwise you are
out.
18 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Alright im here. I tore my away from a warm welcoming bosom, but im here
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Elena Nezhinsky Hey, friend! Cool. So where are you still handing on? I am too relaxed right
now, but maybe somebody will come to smash the remaining shit. Let's chat.
7 hours ago · Like
Viv Westbrook What is I?
7 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Oh, cool
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5. Rion Johnson I is a story
7 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson fiction
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Rion Johnson Clearer?
7 hours ago · Like
Nick Nafus Is that true?
7 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson True as in real? no
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Nick Nafus what? Is it true that there is no you?
7 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson it is true that there is no me. What i mistook for me was an apparition.
7 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Hello?
6 hours ago · Like
Nick Nafus More detail. Ten sentences at least.
Get out what's happening, how life happens without a true self, what the apparition is, etc.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Rion, you know the dril already - give us a good meaty rant
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson The apparition is memory, projection conjecture, fanatsy, belief. The Main
character in a narrative in a world according to what has been experienced through a
perspective. It was the sufferer, the searcher, the failed controller of life. It warps and twists
information coming in to sustain itself and to continue a narrative. It discards what it doesnt fit
into its model of how reality should be. It exists as thought and nothing else.

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Rion Johnson or i should say I was nothing but a thought
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Elena Nezhinsky do you exist?
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson I exist in the same way Daffy Duck exists.
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson no, i dont exist.
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Elena Nezhinsky where did he went?
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Its still there, just not believeable anymore.
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Elena Nezhinsky Still there is what form?
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson A thought, a rather persistent one, but still a thought.
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Elena Nezhinsky What changed since last time we spoke?
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Elena Nezhinsky Did you look all this time while sailing? How did you see that "I" is a though?
What was the moment? Describe.
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson I couldnt find a me last time i was on here. when i was on a sailboat yesterday i
was completely miserable. Here i was in 80 degree weather suffering from memeories of a lost
love. then i remembered our little chat before, and i started to look again for the me that was
suffering. I couldnt find it yet again, and when i couldnt find it the sufferer dissapated.
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7. Elena Nezhinsky how does it feel to see no you?
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Elena Nezhinsky exist
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Elena Nezhinsky ?
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Rion Johnson Disappointing but at the same time a huge relief.
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Elena Nezhinsky relief is huge, yes
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson I really wanted to be very special. ;)
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky what's dissapointing?
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Elena Nezhinsky oh, ok!
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Elena Nezhinsky unique - yes, special - not an inch:) Can you live with that?
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Rion Johnson Should have done this years ago
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Elena Nezhinsky do you have a choice?
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Rion Johnson It couldnt have happened any other way.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky yep, that's it. I am so happy for you, Rion! Well, that sailing was great!

8. 6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson yes it was, now i can actually enjoy it.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Read this when you have time:
http://completehumanity.blogspot.com/2011/07/where-freedom-comes-from-after.html
Complete Humanity: Where the freedom comes from after awakening?
completehumanity.blogspot.com
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Elena Nezhinsky I can see you sail free - amazing. Very cool, Rion!
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Elena Nezhinsky What was instrumental in you seeing this?
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Rion Johnson will do. Very Special thanks to Viv Westbrook, Elena Nezhinsky, and mihai marcea
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson It was pointing me to the fact that the I is the sum of its parts.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Who did that, Rion, so we can give credit.
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson What i mean is I comes after a thought or a sensation.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Yes, I got that, cool it made you really see the truth.
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Viv for sticking with me and
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Rion Johnson and Mihai Macrea
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9. Elena Nezhinsky Need to know who hit it home for you
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Elena Nezhinsky Look back and you will see
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Elena Nezhinsky Viv or Michai?
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Viv when she told me to see who the central doer was, which she told me a bunch
of times, but i finally saw it out on that boat.
6 hours ago · Like
Elena Nezhinsky Thanks! Look up for new group invitation! :)
6 hours ago · Like
Rion Johnson Jesus...... I have all the time in the world now.
4 hours ago · Like · 1 person
Elena Nezhinsky hahahahahaha! The best!
4 hours ago · Like
Viv Westbrook :-)