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Researching as a collaborative group: “That‟s
how you get things done”
Presented by: Janice Slattery, Amanda Hiscoe, Chris Bigby, Patsie Frawley
Contact: Professor Chris Bigby c.bigby@latrobe.edu.au
History Group: Janice Slattery, Amanda Hiscoe, Norrie Blythman, Jane Hauser, David Banfield, Chris
Bigby, Patsie Frawley & Paul Ramcharan
Doing research
We can do research given the right
project and partners/collaborators
who know how to do research..
What skills? We are the history, we
don‟t need skills, but we didn‟t get
skills, they‟re already there” (Mins
210311).
“Just as in other research groups,
each member had different talents
and their own unique combination
of knowledge, skills and
experience” (Bigby, Frawley, Ramcharan
under review)

We need to learn
research
skills???
The main things we have done
• Planning – 44 meetings
• Organising files, other documents, photos
and videos - 291 items
• Interviews – 27 self advocates &
supporters
• Making sense of what we were finding out
• Presenting what we have found out – 11
conference & forum presentations
When you have a research idea you
could do what we did......
• Talk about it for a long time but not get anywhere with it

• Talk about it more with researchers who can help you do it
• Keep talking about it at meetings and decide what you
want to get out of it
• Do it as a group with people who will stick with it
Getting started with the research
 Reinforce wanted to do their history – to
remember everything we had done
 The university researchers wanted to
understand more about self advocacy
 Between 2007 and 2008 we had 16 meetings to
talk about the research
 By November 2008 we had organised a reunion
and a self advocacy stream at the ASID
conference to talk about research
 By 2009 we had funding from the ARC
The self advocacy reunion November 2008

Our way of finding people to

interview..... A reunion
The Reunion: recruitment,
presenting and sharing
•
•
•
•
•

Got people from the past back together
Collected names of people to interview
Took photos and a video
Did a presentation called „key moments‟
Had guest speakers – Dorothy Atkinson &
Mabel Cooper from the UK
• Self advocates and supporters spoke about
their memories
Planning
Different parts of What
the work

Working
together

Form the history group

Work with the Industry Partners

Research

Interviews

Timeline

Who

Jobs

Notes

Been meeting
regularly since
2007

Research group
formed 2009:
Janice, Amanda,
David, Luke, Chris,
Patsie & Paul

Patsie will help the
history group to be
involved in the research
– she will keep notes on
this so we can write
about „researching
together‟

Ongoing from
2009

St John of God
Jewish Community
Services
Annecto
OPA
Office of the Senior
Practitioner
The self advocacy
history research
group

Meet regularly to keep
project going.
Decide what needs to
be done
Do the research jobs
eg interviews, talk
about interviews, talk
about what we are
finding in the files and
in the research work
that everyone is doing
To put some money
into the project

Deciding who to
interview

Everyone who goes to
the interview gets to ask
questions

All done by the
start of 2011

Interviewing them in
pairs or in threes
Interview 25 self advocates
Do stories of 6 of these people
Interview people who have
supported and been involved in
working with self advocacy over
the years

Writing up the
interviews (called
transcribing)

These organisations will
be interested in the
project but they will not
be doing any of the work
or managing it

The interviews are
recorded
A person from outside
the history group will
write up the interview
(called transcribing)

Talking about what
the main ideas
(themes) were in the Chris, Paul and Patsie
interviews
will read the whole
interview
Interviewing – group interviews,
interview book
• We worked through our photos and
memories and developed the „interview book‟
• We developed the book to help us remember
what to talk about – but we did not need it
• The book was sent to everyone we
interviewed – they used it to help them
remember when they were around and what
they did
1982 Campaigning and networking
Reinforce join with others in the Drummond St squat August 29
to September 5 to raise awareness about homelessness of people with
a disability. Declaration written

At the Federal level the first
Disability Advisory Council was
developed.
Self advocacy was growing in other
States with NSW holding the “It‟s
time for a change” conference
Members of Reinforce attended this
conference in Sydney and another
one in Adelaide
In Victoria, St Nicholas was closed
and Errol Cocks became the Head
of the Mental Retardation Division
.
Doing the interviews
• Group interview – all together with person we were
interviewing
• Asked about memories – some people brought old
photos and notes
• We worked out things like dates and the names of
people who had been involved
• People shared memories
• Interviews were “off the cuff”
Amanda: It‟s in relation to what you can remember, from by looking at
this book, and this is just an ideas book or something to jog the catears up and all that, and all. Interviewee: Yes. Amanda: And
interviewer to the interviewee. Interviewee. So, do you want me to
talk a little bit about my, when I first got to know Reinforce, so is that
why you‟re…?Norrie: Yes.Amanda: Yes, yes, yes, go, and you‟ve
got the floor.(IP interview)
What the interviews were like..
“Interviewee. Well I think it was by being so
vocal, everywhere, so wherever you went…
David B: So radical. Amanda: Yes!
Interviewee: Yes, so radical, and, whenever
you went to a conference, Reinforce were
there, usually at the front, you know,
speaking up. Reinforce were now more and
more getting a position as speakers, at
things..”
Files and documents
• Reinforce has 30 + years of material in the office
– committee meeting minutes, project files,
photos, videos, reports
• They are part of the story of Reinforce so we
had to look at them
• Patsie, Chris and Paul sorted through them and
got them all listed we have 291 items
• Patsie & Paul wrote the “working story of
Reinforce” from looking at all of this
Making sense of the research
• Chris, Patsie and Paul read all of the interviews and put
information about them on their computers
• We had meetings where we talked about what was in them;
– we recorded these
• We tried another way of working with the information but we
did not understand it: Paul read through an interview and
brought questions back to the group
______________________________________________________________________________________

Idea from Interview :Replacement of institutions
[Interviewee] remembers that when the institutions started to close the MRD started to set up day centres
and nursing homes Like Oakleigh. He said it was pretty insulting since many people did not require
nursing home care and it was just like being in St. Nick's again.
Paul(CAN PEOPLE REMEMBER THE DAY CENTRES? WHAT HAPPENED THERE? wERE THEY AS
GOOD AS MIDDLE PARK? WHY OR WHY NOT? WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY
SERVICES? WHAT WERE THESE? DID THEY HELP?)
Life Stories - Amanda
Presenting research
What next?
• Developing a coffee table book
• Writing papers (Chris, Patsie & Paul)
• Finishing our life stories and getting them
published and printed
• More presentations
• Maybe a book about the whole project for
students and academics
What we have liked and what we
have found hard
It is hard work:
• Working out who to interview
• Getting everything done
• Keeping everyone up to date with the
research – over a long time
• Finding regular times to meet and
getting commitment from a core
group
We have liked
• Seeing people at the reunion
• Doing the interviews
• Working on a project together
• Presenting
Tips for getting involved in
research
• Self advocates with research ideas
should talk to researchers from
Universities who can help put the ideas
down, help get research money and
work with you to do the research
• Talk about your ideas for research with
each other and with researchers
• It is hard work and takes awhile to get
there but worth it– just stick with it
• It is good because when you do work as
research you get to tell lots of people
what you found out and it gets written
about so people can learn from it
Amanda: It‟s in relation to what you can remember, from by looking at this book, and this is just an ideas book or something to jog the car-ears up and all that, and all. IP: Yes. Amanda: And interviewer to the interviewee. IP:

In memory of
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Researching as a collaborative group la trobe workshop sydney inclusive research forum june 2012

  • 1. Researching as a collaborative group: “That‟s how you get things done” Presented by: Janice Slattery, Amanda Hiscoe, Chris Bigby, Patsie Frawley Contact: Professor Chris Bigby c.bigby@latrobe.edu.au History Group: Janice Slattery, Amanda Hiscoe, Norrie Blythman, Jane Hauser, David Banfield, Chris Bigby, Patsie Frawley & Paul Ramcharan
  • 2. Doing research We can do research given the right project and partners/collaborators who know how to do research.. What skills? We are the history, we don‟t need skills, but we didn‟t get skills, they‟re already there” (Mins 210311). “Just as in other research groups, each member had different talents and their own unique combination of knowledge, skills and experience” (Bigby, Frawley, Ramcharan under review) We need to learn research skills???
  • 3. The main things we have done • Planning – 44 meetings • Organising files, other documents, photos and videos - 291 items • Interviews – 27 self advocates & supporters • Making sense of what we were finding out • Presenting what we have found out – 11 conference & forum presentations
  • 4. When you have a research idea you could do what we did...... • Talk about it for a long time but not get anywhere with it • Talk about it more with researchers who can help you do it • Keep talking about it at meetings and decide what you want to get out of it • Do it as a group with people who will stick with it
  • 5. Getting started with the research  Reinforce wanted to do their history – to remember everything we had done  The university researchers wanted to understand more about self advocacy  Between 2007 and 2008 we had 16 meetings to talk about the research  By November 2008 we had organised a reunion and a self advocacy stream at the ASID conference to talk about research  By 2009 we had funding from the ARC
  • 6. The self advocacy reunion November 2008 Our way of finding people to interview..... A reunion
  • 7. The Reunion: recruitment, presenting and sharing • • • • • Got people from the past back together Collected names of people to interview Took photos and a video Did a presentation called „key moments‟ Had guest speakers – Dorothy Atkinson & Mabel Cooper from the UK • Self advocates and supporters spoke about their memories
  • 8. Planning Different parts of What the work Working together Form the history group Work with the Industry Partners Research Interviews Timeline Who Jobs Notes Been meeting regularly since 2007 Research group formed 2009: Janice, Amanda, David, Luke, Chris, Patsie & Paul Patsie will help the history group to be involved in the research – she will keep notes on this so we can write about „researching together‟ Ongoing from 2009 St John of God Jewish Community Services Annecto OPA Office of the Senior Practitioner The self advocacy history research group Meet regularly to keep project going. Decide what needs to be done Do the research jobs eg interviews, talk about interviews, talk about what we are finding in the files and in the research work that everyone is doing To put some money into the project Deciding who to interview Everyone who goes to the interview gets to ask questions All done by the start of 2011 Interviewing them in pairs or in threes Interview 25 self advocates Do stories of 6 of these people Interview people who have supported and been involved in working with self advocacy over the years Writing up the interviews (called transcribing) These organisations will be interested in the project but they will not be doing any of the work or managing it The interviews are recorded A person from outside the history group will write up the interview (called transcribing) Talking about what the main ideas (themes) were in the Chris, Paul and Patsie interviews will read the whole interview
  • 9. Interviewing – group interviews, interview book • We worked through our photos and memories and developed the „interview book‟ • We developed the book to help us remember what to talk about – but we did not need it • The book was sent to everyone we interviewed – they used it to help them remember when they were around and what they did
  • 10. 1982 Campaigning and networking Reinforce join with others in the Drummond St squat August 29 to September 5 to raise awareness about homelessness of people with a disability. Declaration written At the Federal level the first Disability Advisory Council was developed. Self advocacy was growing in other States with NSW holding the “It‟s time for a change” conference Members of Reinforce attended this conference in Sydney and another one in Adelaide In Victoria, St Nicholas was closed and Errol Cocks became the Head of the Mental Retardation Division .
  • 11. Doing the interviews • Group interview – all together with person we were interviewing • Asked about memories – some people brought old photos and notes • We worked out things like dates and the names of people who had been involved • People shared memories • Interviews were “off the cuff” Amanda: It‟s in relation to what you can remember, from by looking at this book, and this is just an ideas book or something to jog the catears up and all that, and all. Interviewee: Yes. Amanda: And interviewer to the interviewee. Interviewee. So, do you want me to talk a little bit about my, when I first got to know Reinforce, so is that why you‟re…?Norrie: Yes.Amanda: Yes, yes, yes, go, and you‟ve got the floor.(IP interview)
  • 12. What the interviews were like.. “Interviewee. Well I think it was by being so vocal, everywhere, so wherever you went… David B: So radical. Amanda: Yes! Interviewee: Yes, so radical, and, whenever you went to a conference, Reinforce were there, usually at the front, you know, speaking up. Reinforce were now more and more getting a position as speakers, at things..”
  • 13. Files and documents • Reinforce has 30 + years of material in the office – committee meeting minutes, project files, photos, videos, reports • They are part of the story of Reinforce so we had to look at them • Patsie, Chris and Paul sorted through them and got them all listed we have 291 items • Patsie & Paul wrote the “working story of Reinforce” from looking at all of this
  • 14. Making sense of the research • Chris, Patsie and Paul read all of the interviews and put information about them on their computers • We had meetings where we talked about what was in them; – we recorded these • We tried another way of working with the information but we did not understand it: Paul read through an interview and brought questions back to the group ______________________________________________________________________________________ Idea from Interview :Replacement of institutions [Interviewee] remembers that when the institutions started to close the MRD started to set up day centres and nursing homes Like Oakleigh. He said it was pretty insulting since many people did not require nursing home care and it was just like being in St. Nick's again. Paul(CAN PEOPLE REMEMBER THE DAY CENTRES? WHAT HAPPENED THERE? wERE THEY AS GOOD AS MIDDLE PARK? WHY OR WHY NOT? WERE THERE ANY OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICES? WHAT WERE THESE? DID THEY HELP?)
  • 15. Life Stories - Amanda
  • 17. What next? • Developing a coffee table book • Writing papers (Chris, Patsie & Paul) • Finishing our life stories and getting them published and printed • More presentations • Maybe a book about the whole project for students and academics
  • 18. What we have liked and what we have found hard It is hard work: • Working out who to interview • Getting everything done • Keeping everyone up to date with the research – over a long time • Finding regular times to meet and getting commitment from a core group We have liked • Seeing people at the reunion • Doing the interviews • Working on a project together • Presenting
  • 19. Tips for getting involved in research • Self advocates with research ideas should talk to researchers from Universities who can help put the ideas down, help get research money and work with you to do the research • Talk about your ideas for research with each other and with researchers • It is hard work and takes awhile to get there but worth it– just stick with it • It is good because when you do work as research you get to tell lots of people what you found out and it gets written about so people can learn from it
  • 20. Amanda: It‟s in relation to what you can remember, from by looking at this book, and this is just an ideas book or something to jog the car-ears up and all that, and all. IP: Yes. Amanda: And interviewer to the interviewee. IP: In memory of David Banfield