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Psychiatry: A crash test for integrative neuroscience
Part 2: from sub-lunar to supra-lunar medicines and back
Alius Workshop — Ecole Normale Supérieure, Paris — 26 Octobre 2018
Guillaume Dumas, Ph.D – @introspection
Laboratoire de Génétique Humaine et Fonctions Cognitives, Institut Pasteur
Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines
2 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
« Milieu extérieur »
Organism
Risk factors
Syndrom
« sublunare » world / « professional » medicine
Cause
Disease
Delimiting
criteria
Pathology
« supralunar » world / « scientific » medicine
« Milieu intérieur »
Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018
Subjective
experience
(semiology)
Brain activity
(physiology)
Disease?
(nosology)
Additional creteria
(epidemiology, sociology, …)
Cause
(etiology)
3 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018
Subjective
experience
(semiology)
Brain activity
(physiology)
Disease?
(nosology)
Additional creteria
(epidemiology, sociology, …)
Cause
(etiology)
4 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018
Subjective
experience
(semiology)
Brain activity
(physiology)
Disease?
(nosology)
Additional creteria
(epidemiology, sociology, …)
Cause
(etiology)
Individuals / Patients Researchers
MDs
Policy makersAssociations
5 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
3 crash tests
Socioconstructivist
How to address the limit~continuity between
the normal and the pathological?
Transnosographic
Can a neurobiological mechanism be approached in a
similar way in two different psychiatric disorders?
Pleïotropy ~ Degeneracy
Can a neurobiological mechanism be addressed
independently of the alteration of other mechanisms?
6 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines
Cambridge Model for Symptom-Formation
7 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Mental Symptoms as ‘Hybrid’ objects
8 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Berlioz et al. 2013
Socio-cultural
Cognitive-behavioral
Biological
9 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Autism as a Dialectical Misattunement
Bolis et al. 2017
Systems Biology beyond the individual
10 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Institute for Systems Biology
Systems Biology beyond the individual
11 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Institute for Systems Biology
Social Interaction: the « Dark Side » of Psychiatry ?
12 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
« Sainte Anne » Fauve (2016)
“Because unintentionally,
the others are a constant struggle.
Definitely doctor,
we are living in a best of times.”
“Parce que sans le vouloir, les autres sont un combat permanent
Décidément docteur, on vit une chouette époque …”
Social interaction: the « Dark Matter » of Neuroscience ?
13 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Pfeiffer et al., Front Hum Neurosci 2013
N individuals
Operationalizing the Naturalization of Social Interaction
14 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Multiscale experimental & computational approaches
15 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Kelso, Dumas, & Tognoli, Neural Networks 2013
ExperimentalComputational
Social Perception ≠ Social Interaction
16 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Guionnet et al. 2011; Dumas et al. 2012; Nadel & Dumas, J Cog Edu & Psych 2010
Socio-affective coupling and pain reduction
17 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Goldstein, Weissman-Fogel, Dumas, Shamay-Tsoory, PNAS (2018)
Pain reduction
Inter-brain
synchronization
modulation
The transnosographic approach
18 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
« Systems are not in nature,
but in the mind of men. »
Claude Bernard (1865, p. 297)
Crespi et al. 2010
The transnosographic approach
19 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
« All the models are false,
Few are useful."
George Box
Crespi et al. 2010
The idosyncratic brain
20 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Hahamy et al., Nature Neuroscience 2015
Dumas et al., PLoS ONE 2012
Inter-brain misattunement > Intra-brain structure
21 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas, Zillekens et al., (in preps)
Imme
ZILLEKENS
Leonard
SCHILBACH
Juha
LAHNAKOSKI
Beyond the « Case vs Controls » dichotomy
22 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Marquand et al. 2016
Normative model: probing the discrete~continuous
23 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Longitudinal European Autism Project
Nonparametric Normative Model based on LOESS
Age (days)
Z-scoreWorkingMemory
CTR ASD ID ASD-ID
Jumana
Ahmad
Eva
Loth
Normative model: going even more non-parametric
24 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Longitudinal European Autism Project
Nonparametric Normative Model based on Centiles
Age (days)
CentilesWorkingMemory
CTR ASD
Jumana
Ahmad
Eva
Loth
Normative model: the two faces of variance
25 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Aline
LEFEBVRE
Richard
DELORME
Dumas et al., PLoS ONE 2012
Network Based Stratification
26 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Large Cohort
Highly Heterogeneous
Genetic Profiles
Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018
Yang-Min
KIM
Network Based Stratification
27 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Large Cohort
Highly Heterogeneous
Genetic Profiles
Individuals
Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018
Yang-Min
KIM
Network Based Stratification
28 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Large Cohort
Highly Heterogeneous
Genetic Profiles
Individuals Clusters
Homogeneous
Genetic Profiles
Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018
Yang-Min
KIM
Network Based Stratification: for botanists
29 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Bourgeron, Nat Neuro Rev 2015
Network Based Stratification: for gardeners
30 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
CBT Response
DrugResponse
Network Based Stratification
31 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Kim, Poline, Dumas GigaScience 2018
github.com/GHFC/stratipy
Network theory of mental disorders
32 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Borsboom (2017)
Social perspective on Symptoms Networks
33 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.)
X
X
X
X
X
Social perspective on Symptoms Networks
34 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.)
Diagnostic Self-Report
Social perspective on Symptoms Networks
35 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.)
Diagnostic Self-Report
Social perspective on Symptoms Networks
36 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.)
Diagnostic Self-Report
How often do you have
problem remembering
appointments or obligations?
How often do you have difficulty
keeping your attention when you are
doing boring or repetitive work?
How often do you
have trouble wrapping
up the final details of a
project, once the
challenging parts have
been done?
Representation bias
Individual <–> Family / Friends
Individual <–> Therapist / Educator
But also:
Practitioners <–> Practitioners
Practitioners <–> Policy makers
Policy makers <–> Policy makers
Policy makers <–> Associations
…
Individual <–> their “voices”
37 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Dumas & Micoulaud-Franchi, Intellectica (upcoming)
3 crash tests
Socioconstructivist
Taking social level seriously
Transnosographic
Go beyond case vs control
Pleïotropy ~ Degeneracy
Networks: from systems biology to symptoms
Multiscale/Interdisciplinary approach (theory, experiment, model)
including social interactions and cultural systems.
38 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines
Old Paris Team
Jacqueline Nadel
Jacques Martinerie
Robert Soussignan
Mario Chavez
Boca Raton Team
Current Paris Team
Collaborators
J.-A. Micoulaud-Franchi
Leonhard Schilbach
Imme Zillekens
Juha Lahnakoski
Danilo Bzdok
Elvis Dohmatob
Denis Engemann
Thomas Bourgeron
Richard Delorme
Jean-Pierre Changeux
Yang-Min Kim
Aline Lefebvre
Roberto Toro
Thomas Rolland
Freddy Cliquet
Alexandre Mathieu
Hany Goubran-Botros
Quentin Moreau
Annika Lübbert
J.A. Scott Kelso
Emmanuelle Tognoli
Gonzalo DeGuzman
Armin Fuchs
Mengsen Zhang
39 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
Eva Loth
Jumana Ahmad
Pavel Goldstein
Merle Fairhurst
Viviane Kostrubiec
Alexandre Lehmann
Asaf Bachrach
Julien Laroche
Interdisciplinarity
Open Science
Art~Science
Alius Team
David Dupuis,
Matthieu Koroma
Raphaël Millière
Martin Fortier
Baptiste Gilles
… and all the
associated
researchers!
All the 14 DVDs of ARTEMOC 2009 event are online!
40 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
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Psychiatry: A Crash test for integrative neuroscience (Part2)

  • 1. Psychiatry: A crash test for integrative neuroscience Part 2: from sub-lunar to supra-lunar medicines and back Alius Workshop — Ecole Normale Supérieure, Paris — 26 Octobre 2018 Guillaume Dumas, Ph.D – @introspection Laboratoire de Génétique Humaine et Fonctions Cognitives, Institut Pasteur
  • 2. Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines 2 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 « Milieu extérieur » Organism Risk factors Syndrom « sublunare » world / « professional » medicine Cause Disease Delimiting criteria Pathology « supralunar » world / « scientific » medicine « Milieu intérieur »
  • 3. Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018 Subjective experience (semiology) Brain activity (physiology) Disease? (nosology) Additional creteria (epidemiology, sociology, …) Cause (etiology) 3 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
  • 4. Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018 Subjective experience (semiology) Brain activity (physiology) Disease? (nosology) Additional creteria (epidemiology, sociology, …) Cause (etiology) 4 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
  • 5. Adapted from Micoulaud-Franchi et al. 2018 Subjective experience (semiology) Brain activity (physiology) Disease? (nosology) Additional creteria (epidemiology, sociology, …) Cause (etiology) Individuals / Patients Researchers MDs Policy makersAssociations 5 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
  • 6. 3 crash tests Socioconstructivist How to address the limit~continuity between the normal and the pathological? Transnosographic Can a neurobiological mechanism be approached in a similar way in two different psychiatric disorders? Pleïotropy ~ Degeneracy Can a neurobiological mechanism be addressed independently of the alteration of other mechanisms? 6 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines
  • 7. Cambridge Model for Symptom-Formation 7 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
  • 8. Mental Symptoms as ‘Hybrid’ objects 8 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Berlioz et al. 2013
  • 9. Socio-cultural Cognitive-behavioral Biological 9 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Autism as a Dialectical Misattunement Bolis et al. 2017
  • 10. Systems Biology beyond the individual 10 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Institute for Systems Biology
  • 11. Systems Biology beyond the individual 11 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Institute for Systems Biology
  • 12. Social Interaction: the « Dark Side » of Psychiatry ? 12 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 « Sainte Anne » Fauve (2016) “Because unintentionally, the others are a constant struggle. Definitely doctor, we are living in a best of times.” “Parce que sans le vouloir, les autres sont un combat permanent Décidément docteur, on vit une chouette époque …”
  • 13. Social interaction: the « Dark Matter » of Neuroscience ? 13 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Pfeiffer et al., Front Hum Neurosci 2013 N individuals
  • 14. Operationalizing the Naturalization of Social Interaction 14 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018
  • 15. Multiscale experimental & computational approaches 15 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Kelso, Dumas, & Tognoli, Neural Networks 2013 ExperimentalComputational
  • 16. Social Perception ≠ Social Interaction 16 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Guionnet et al. 2011; Dumas et al. 2012; Nadel & Dumas, J Cog Edu & Psych 2010
  • 17. Socio-affective coupling and pain reduction 17 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Goldstein, Weissman-Fogel, Dumas, Shamay-Tsoory, PNAS (2018) Pain reduction Inter-brain synchronization modulation
  • 18. The transnosographic approach 18 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 « Systems are not in nature, but in the mind of men. » Claude Bernard (1865, p. 297) Crespi et al. 2010
  • 19. The transnosographic approach 19 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 « All the models are false, Few are useful." George Box Crespi et al. 2010
  • 20. The idosyncratic brain 20 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Hahamy et al., Nature Neuroscience 2015 Dumas et al., PLoS ONE 2012
  • 21. Inter-brain misattunement > Intra-brain structure 21 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas, Zillekens et al., (in preps) Imme ZILLEKENS Leonard SCHILBACH Juha LAHNAKOSKI
  • 22. Beyond the « Case vs Controls » dichotomy 22 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Marquand et al. 2016
  • 23. Normative model: probing the discrete~continuous 23 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Longitudinal European Autism Project Nonparametric Normative Model based on LOESS Age (days) Z-scoreWorkingMemory CTR ASD ID ASD-ID Jumana Ahmad Eva Loth
  • 24. Normative model: going even more non-parametric 24 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Longitudinal European Autism Project Nonparametric Normative Model based on Centiles Age (days) CentilesWorkingMemory CTR ASD Jumana Ahmad Eva Loth
  • 25. Normative model: the two faces of variance 25 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Aline LEFEBVRE Richard DELORME Dumas et al., PLoS ONE 2012
  • 26. Network Based Stratification 26 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Large Cohort Highly Heterogeneous Genetic Profiles Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018 Yang-Min KIM
  • 27. Network Based Stratification 27 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Large Cohort Highly Heterogeneous Genetic Profiles Individuals Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018 Yang-Min KIM
  • 28. Network Based Stratification 28 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Large Cohort Highly Heterogeneous Genetic Profiles Individuals Clusters Homogeneous Genetic Profiles Hofree et al. 2013; Kim, Poline, Dumas 2018 Yang-Min KIM
  • 29. Network Based Stratification: for botanists 29 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Bourgeron, Nat Neuro Rev 2015
  • 30. Network Based Stratification: for gardeners 30 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 CBT Response DrugResponse
  • 31. Network Based Stratification 31 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Kim, Poline, Dumas GigaScience 2018 github.com/GHFC/stratipy
  • 32. Network theory of mental disorders 32 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Borsboom (2017)
  • 33. Social perspective on Symptoms Networks 33 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.) X X X X X
  • 34. Social perspective on Symptoms Networks 34 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.) Diagnostic Self-Report
  • 35. Social perspective on Symptoms Networks 35 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.) Diagnostic Self-Report
  • 36. Social perspective on Symptoms Networks 36 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas, Micoulaud, et al. (in prep.) Diagnostic Self-Report How often do you have problem remembering appointments or obligations? How often do you have difficulty keeping your attention when you are doing boring or repetitive work? How often do you have trouble wrapping up the final details of a project, once the challenging parts have been done? Representation bias
  • 37. Individual <–> Family / Friends Individual <–> Therapist / Educator But also: Practitioners <–> Practitioners Practitioners <–> Policy makers Policy makers <–> Policy makers Policy makers <–> Associations … Individual <–> their “voices” 37 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Dumas & Micoulaud-Franchi, Intellectica (upcoming)
  • 38. 3 crash tests Socioconstructivist Taking social level seriously Transnosographic Go beyond case vs control Pleïotropy ~ Degeneracy Networks: from systems biology to symptoms Multiscale/Interdisciplinary approach (theory, experiment, model) including social interactions and cultural systems. 38 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Bridging the gap between sub-lunar & supra-lunar medicines
  • 39. Old Paris Team Jacqueline Nadel Jacques Martinerie Robert Soussignan Mario Chavez Boca Raton Team Current Paris Team Collaborators J.-A. Micoulaud-Franchi Leonhard Schilbach Imme Zillekens Juha Lahnakoski Danilo Bzdok Elvis Dohmatob Denis Engemann Thomas Bourgeron Richard Delorme Jean-Pierre Changeux Yang-Min Kim Aline Lefebvre Roberto Toro Thomas Rolland Freddy Cliquet Alexandre Mathieu Hany Goubran-Botros Quentin Moreau Annika Lübbert J.A. Scott Kelso Emmanuelle Tognoli Gonzalo DeGuzman Armin Fuchs Mengsen Zhang 39 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 Eva Loth Jumana Ahmad Pavel Goldstein Merle Fairhurst Viviane Kostrubiec Alexandre Lehmann Asaf Bachrach Julien Laroche Interdisciplinarity Open Science Art~Science Alius Team David Dupuis, Matthieu Koroma Raphaël Millière Martin Fortier Baptiste Gilles … and all the associated researchers!
  • 40. All the 14 DVDs of ARTEMOC 2009 event are online! 40 • Guillaume Dumas • Biologie des Systèmes et Psychiatrie • 22/10/2018 https://vimeo.com/album/5506621
  • 41. Phi