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MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU
A Tool for Productive
Development Policies
Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru
MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU
A Tool for Productive Development Policies
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Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru
Bogota, 9 November 2017
Development has equaled industrialization
Source: Kennedy (1989) & The Groningen Growth & Development Centre (2017). Author’s Elaboration.
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UK USA Germany Japan Korea China
ManufacturingshareofGDP%
Beginning of
Industrialization
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UK USA Germany Japan Korea China
ManufacturingshareofGDP%
Beginning of
Industrialization
Peak of
Industrialization
Manufacturing: the “growth escalator”
• It offered significant advantages:
High and growing productivity (unconditional
convergence)
Large employment generation for unskilled labor
Not limited by domestic market size
Generation of “capacities”
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Quickest way to boost productivity :
structural transformation
Structural Transformation has been a strong
contributor to productivity growth…
Source: McMillan, Rodrik & Spúlveda (2016) and Rodrik & McMillan (2011). Author’s Elaboration.
…but its contribution has now declined
-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5
India (90 - 99)
Brazil (65 - 79)
Botswana (70-80)
Latin America (50 - 75)
Korea (70 - 90)
Vietnam (90-00)
Contribution to productivity growth (pp)
-3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5
India (90 - 99)
India (00 - 04)
Brazil (65-79)
Brazil (90 - 05)
Botswana (70-80)
Botswana (00 - 10)
Latin America (50 - 75)
Latin America (90 - 05)
Korea (70 - 90)
Korea (95 - 10)
Vietnam (90 - 00)
Vietnam (00 - 08)
Contribution to productivity growth (pp)
Early Period Late period
What explains this decreased contribution?
Premature deindustrialization
Labor-saving technological change
Late industrializers can´t compete on low
wages
But we may not know the complete answer yet
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In general, EM productivity growth has declined
Source: Conference Board, FMI – WEO (abril 2016).
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0.40
1.10
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EMERGING ECONOMIES ADVANCED ECONOMIES WORLD
TOTALTFP
2003 - 2010 2011 - 2014
-1.8 pp.
-0.9 pp.
-0.4 pp.
How are we going to “replace”
manufacturing as the growth escalator?
Multiple sectors (in addition to manufacturing)
with manufacturing-like characteristics
To increase productivity within each sector
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Traditional agriculture
1. Very limited use of
technology
2. Tillage/plowing (soil
erosion)
3. Low (and stagnant)
productivity
4. Repetitive tasks not used
elsewhere
5. Very vulnerable
Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty
and maximize efficiency gains
Modern agriculture
Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest
Absolute control of all phases of the productive
process to reduce uncertainty and maximize
efficiency gains
Before planting
1. Adaptation of best seeds
to local conditions
2. Use of germplasm bank
for cloning the best
3. Large scale nurseries of
seedlings
4. Genome editing
5. Development of
organisms for biological
control of pests
Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty
and maximize efficiency gains
Modern agriculture
Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest
Pre-harvest
1. Sensors info to optimize
fertilizers, water and
pesticides (or organisms
for biological pest
control) per parcel
2. Optimal density of
planting (multispectral
analysis)
3. 24/7 monitoring
4. Very high productivity
Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty and
maximize efficiency gains
Modern agriculture
Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest
Post-harvest
1. Machine learning for
sorting products
2. Immediate cooling
3. Maximization of shelf-
life of products
“ Farms are becoming like factories: tightly
controlled operations for turning out reliable
products, immune as far as possible from
vagaries of nature “ (The Economist, June 2016)
Not only farms are becoming like factories:
Modern Livestock Raising
Modern Aquaculture
Mining
Knowledge Intensive Business Services, etc.
• WHAT you produce may be less important than
HOW you produce it
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Objetive: maximize productivity of ALL sectors
• Need to Identify and remove constraints to the
productivity growth of all sectors. This is precisely what
Productive Development Policies are about.
• Not easy. Increased uncertainty/fast-paced technological
change. Higher International Standards (environmental,
labor, phytosanitary, etc.)
• Multiple public and private actors need to cooperate to
solve coordination failures
• This process of cooperation needs to be institutionalized
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Public sector stakeholders
Private sector stakeholders
Public – public
coordination
problems
Private - private
coordination
problems
Public - private
coordination
problems
Which coordination failures?
Mesas Ejecutivas
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What is a Mesa Ejecutiva (ME)?
A ME is a tool designed in Perú to implement more effectively PDPs.
 It is a public-private working group that….
 …identifies and removes the bottlenecks that affect the productivity
of a sector (forestry, tourism, agro-export, etc.) or factor (logistics,
capital markets, transit, etc.)
It focuses on implementation and on the specifics. Not on general
discussions.
It includes key public and private stakeholders around sector/factor.
It does not replace ministries or public agencies. It works with them.
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Who participates in a ME?
Ground
level body
High level
body
- Private sector stakeholders
- Public sector stakeholders
- A dedicated team that
coordinates the ME
MORE CONTEXTUAL KNOWLEDGE
- Ministers and above (can´t
be just one minister)
MORE CONVENING AND
COORDINATING CAPACITIES
THEY COMPLEMENT
EACH OTHER
Types of MEs Meetings
Periodic Sessions: regular meetings where
representatives of GLB of the ME participate and where
progress is presented. High periodicity (weekly or
biweekly) works as pressure mechanism.
Inter-sessional Meetings: smaller (bilateral or
multilateral) meetings in which solutions to problems
identified during regular sessions are implemented.
Could include HLB.
Dedicated team makes sure there is continuous progress
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What does government provide in a ME?
 Government, with respect to the private sector,
differentiates between MPs (“my problems”) and YPs
(“your problems” ):
 MPs are related to the public goods and services that
government must provide as inputs for private
production.
 YPs are things that private sector needs to do to be
competitive.
 ME should provide only MPs
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What does government provide in a ME? (II)
 MEs help government to align its supply of public goods and
services (MPs). For example:
 Reduction of red tape (norms and implementation)
 Regulation that is adequate to productive reality of the sector
 Fill in loopholes
 Help complying with technical requirements for new export
markets
 Complementary public sector interventions.
 Creation of new public entities (and/or improve existing ones)
 Public infrastructure suited to productive needs of the sector.
 Incentives to promote innovation suitable to the sector
 Design of sector-specific training programs
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Public sector stakeholders
Private sector stakeholders
Public – public
coordination
problems
Private - private
coordination
problems
Public - private
coordination
problems
How do MEs help with coordination failures?
Public sector
Private sector
Steps to launch a ME
Define a sector
/ factor
candidate
Decide if ME
is feasible
Launch ME
No ME (not yet)
- As narrow as
necessary (i.e.
common problems)
but as broad as
possible (i.e. move
the needle)
- Is the private sector
self-organized
- Commitment to
participate in ME?
- Does it involve several
public entities?
Yes
No
Steps to start operating a ME
1. Set a LT
objective and
generate initial
list of problem/
solutions
2. Chose 3 or
4 problems
and start to
solve them
4. Solve other
problems and
incorporate
new
Elevate to high
level bodyIf process
hits a wall
- Budget allocation
- Dispute resolution
- Regulation
- Convening other
actors
In public policy sometimes we think we
did our job because:
We passed a law, enacted a regulation, produced
new guidelines, etc.
We created a new public sector institution
We launched a program
We allocated budget to achieve a given objective
We copied international “best practices”
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But are we having an impact on the ground?
Very often we are not
We need to see where, in the whole chain, the
process breaks
Are the norms adequate?
Are they being implemented correctly?
Or even being implemented at all?
 Is money allocated being spent? And well?
Are “best practices” really adequate to local reality?
Frequent ME sessions allows to “keep us
honest”. And make adjustments/corrections.
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Mesas Ejecutivas: Experience in Peru
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MEs in Peru
• The Ministry of Production of Peru created 8 MEs in 2015-16
• Forestry
• Aquaculture
• Creative Industries
• Textile
• Gastrononomical
• Agroexports
• Logistics
• High-Impact Enterpreneurship
• New government initially discontinued MEs but has relaunched
them due to private sector demand
• It shows the importance of “getting things done” for continuity
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Sectorial
Transversal
Example 1: Forestry Mesa Ejecutiva (I)
• The sector has two subsectors: Forest plantations and Forest
concessions in the Amazon jungle
• There are 10 to 12 million hectares in the Amazon jungle ready for
forest concessions. It is high quality wood
• Also, in the jungle there are approximately 4 millions Has. ready for
reforestation. Inexpensive land, abundant sunshine and rainfall, and
privileged topography.
• But sector has not lived up to its potential:
• Less than 2 million has. of the Amazon Forest are utilized in
concessions. And less than 40k has. have been reforested (for a
commercial/industrial use)
• Peru´s forestry exports: stagnant in the last 10 years
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Clonal Plantations Peru and Brazil
Peru
Brazil
Uruguay
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Mexico
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VOLUME INCREASES IN FORESTRY PLANTATIONS
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Exports Imports
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Forestry Sector: Peru vs Chile exports
Peru Chile
Example 1: Forestry Mesa Ejecutiva (II)
• First phase of Forestry ME operated from Dec 2014 until
July 2016
• It included 6 Ministries, other 4 public entities and private
sector.
• New government stopped ME but it was re-launched on
Feb. 2017
• It included more actors: regional/local authorities and
small producers (represented by the recently created
CONAFOR-Peru)
• For the first time, forestry´s full potential is understood.
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Forestry ME: All Actors Improve
• Public sector entities are “forced” to coordinate. Likewise different
levels of government (national/regional/local) have to coordinate
• Government entities started to learn how the forestry sector really
functions
• It has generated institutional memory. It reduced the impact of
“turbulence” resulting from government change
• Private sector starts to understand how public sector works
• It promotes associativity. Example, creation of CONAFOR-Peru (entity
that includes 16 regional small business associations)
• Private banks have started to focus on the sector. First loans ever
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Before After
Forestry plantations not recognized as different
from forest concessions in the Amazon Jungle
New Law and Regulation (led by ME) recognizes
plantation trees as crops
No financing for the sector (particularly
plantations). Banking system did not know the
sector.
Creation of new fund. Approximately S/.120
million of new loans through banking system.
Production can be used as collateral
It took up to 8 months to obtain a permit to
extract wood from plantations No permit is now required
It took up to a year to register a plantation
property It takes 3 days to register plantation properties
Forestry ME: Key Achievements (Plantations)
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No interest in forest plantations by foreign
investors
Some of the largest global forest funds are
coming. Launching of local forest funds
Before After
OSINFOR, national Entity in charge of
supervision, did not trust plans approved by
regional authorities: uncertainty for investors
OSINFOR has now accepted to accompany
regional authorities in early inspections (and
approvals). Budget is being allocated to
strengthen implementation
For 15 years there were no new concessions in
the Amazon Jungle
2 Million Hectares recently concessioned by
Ucayali and Loreto
Entities at different government levels (national,
regional and local) had different standards about
timber resources.
New Protocol with the same standards at
different levels of government has been
approved. It is now being utilized.
No guidelines reflecting productive reality of the
sector
12 new guidelines have been isused and have
been implemented
Forestry ME: Key Achievements (Concessions)
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No traceability system. 25% of trees reported in
the operating plans did not actually exist
Significant improvements in traceability system.
Percentage has fallen to 10%.
Example 2: Agroexports Mesa Ejecutiva
• Peruvian agro-exports have grown from USD400 millions to USD
4,800 millions in the last 15 years.
• Continued high growth will require government support in
research (INIA), access to new export markets (SENASA) and
infrastructure (MTC)
• The Agro-export ME is made up by 5 Ministries, other public
entities and representatives of the private sector.
• The Agro-export ME worked in the Ministry of Production in
2016. Re-launched by the Ministry of Agriculture on May 2017.
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Before After
Identification of products prioritized for the
opening of new export markets was in charge
only of SENASA (Agricultural Health Authority)
There is now a list (agreed in the ME by public
and private stakeholder) about the products
prioritized.
The agricultural Research Institute (INIA) had a
research agenda divorced from private sector
demand/information
Private and public participants of the ME have
agreed on the list of products to be investigated
in 2017 and 2018.
Restrictions to the chocolate and cocoa Peruvian
exports to the European Union because of the
presence of heavy metals (Cadmium)
National Plan for the Reduction of Heavy Metal
Pollution in the Productive Value Chain of Cocoa
– Chocolate
It is difficult to import genetic material Simplification of the management of genetic
material (because INIA is able to import it for
short periods). Priority list has been generated.
Agroexports ME: Key Achievements
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The functional, technical and managerial
structure of SENASA is outdated. Draft bill to
strengthen it had been dormant for years
The ME/SENASA have finalized bill. It is now
being presented to Congress.
Example 3: Aquaculture Mesa Ejecutiva
• Peru has likely comparative advantages in Aquaculture due to
sunshine, cheap energy, extensive sea (and water abundance in the
jungle).
• Our largest shrimp producers are already getting (in intensive
ponds) TM100 per ha/year, by far the highest in the world
• Despite growth in previous years, aquaculture exports are still
small (USD270 mln). Ecuador, with very similar underlying
conditions, exports 10 times that amount.
• Aquaculture ME started operating on May 2015 until July 2016 .
The ME was made up by two Ministries, other public entities and
representatives of the private sector.
• It was relaunched in September by Ministry of Finance.
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Before After
Many of the pre-requisites for aquaculture
operations were related to extractive fishing
No longer. All extractive fishing pre-requisites
have been eliminated
Triplicity (or more) of requirement by different
Government Agencies (Produce, OEFA, Sanipes)
They have been eliminated
It took up to 2 years to obtain an aquaculture
concession
It now takes 6 months
No National Fisheries Health Agency. There was a
low level direction in one government agency
Sanipes (the National Fisheries health agency)
was created in Nov 2015. Thanks to ME “it hit
the ground running”, including opening of
operations across the country
Aquaculture ME : Key Achievements
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It was not possible to export shrimp to China Chinese markets has now been opened and first
exports within 6 months
An outdated regulation that had the same
requisites to export all products to all countries
Regulation tailor made to each product and
country. Significant reduction of requirements
Exports of scallops to EU were in danger partly
because of inadequate equipment
New equipment (MASA MASA) with much
quicker and accurate results was acquired.
Scallop exports to EU now ok.
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Example 4: Logistics ME
This resulted in:
• Additional charges by APMT.
• Increase of the freight of the ships,
by the delay of the stay of the ships.
• Increase in the cost of renting the
trucks and the waiting time of these
• Truck drivers exposure to citizen
insecurity while awaiting their
attention on the street.
• Low competitiveness of Callao port in
relation to other ports in the region.
PROBLEM OF ENTRY TO CALLAO PORT
The admission to the port concessioned to APM Terminals took between 5 to 6 hours.
Significant vehicular congestion outside the port
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One example of solving coordination issues: Logistics ME
ACTION TAKEN
. The Road Reordering Pilot Project was implemented to eliminate congestion of heavy
vehicles in the avenues close to the port.
• The Plan was promoted by a working group led by the National Port Authority (APN)
and made up of MININTER, PROVÍAS, UNT, PNP and MPC.
• It allowed the use of 3 lanes of entrance in the avenue Manco Capac.
• PROVIAS reprogrammed ill-calibrated traffic lights
• MININTER with the Transit Police established, in order to facilitate the flow of traffic, 3
control points, in:
I. Crossing Contralmirante Mora avenue with Atalaya,
II. Atalaya with Guardia Chalaca and,
III. In Manco Cápac avenue.
• APN created a WhatsApp group for urgent communications between members of the
ME, with the aim of quickly solving traffic problems
• The private sector (ASPPOR) has instructed its drivers regarding the Pilot Plan.
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The results of coordinating:
Waiting time declined to less than 2 hours.
Less important / effective More important/effective
Did you pick the very best industries based on
comparative advantage, cluster centrality,
growth, or other technical metrics?
To have a commited group of people from both
the public and private sector.
Big-bang approach launching a large number of
Mesas Ejecutivas
To start slowly and accumulate “know how”.
Over time increase number of MEs. Sequential
Priorization.
Provide MEs with big budgets To have an effective ME dedicated team that
make things happen.
Long periods of consultation and study with the
private sector, thorough analyses, long reports,
etc.
To start solving 3 or 4 problems from the very
beginning to create “momentum”
Lessons from MEs
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To have a clear road map from the outset that
simply has to be implemented (linear approach)
To start implementing and rapidly learn what
works and what does not, iterate, and improve
(recursive approach)
Other Lessons from MEs
 ME sessions need to have a clear periodicity. Weekly or biweekly
periodicity appears to be ideal to keep constant pressure to deliver.
 To have a dedicated team that makes sure there is continuous progress is
probably the most important determinant of success of MEs as a tool.
 It is important to secure that the public sector participants “own the
achievements” of the ME.
 Important to maintain the discipline of focusing on measures that increase
productivity. Deprioritize exemptions that, instead, compensate for low
productivity.
 Due to the mistrust that exists in society regarding public-private dialogue,
transparency is fundamental.
 MEs must receive support from the very top of the government.
Otherwise they will hit a wall. However, it is not an absolute necessity to
have them depending from the President or Primer Minister
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Some additional points
 MEs are an invaluable tool for transparently obtaining information
from the productive private sector.
 MEs are very labor intensive. But the cumulative effect of many
"small" measures is often greater than that of a major reform.
 The MEs in Peru have solved many problems in the productive sectors.
That is important. But more importantly, the MEs have allowed to
learn how to identify and solve problems.
 There are not many successful and proven PDPs tools. The MEs are.
They could be progressively extended (on issues beyond PDPs) to the
entire State, which should be working with a “ME chip”
 Clear and stable rules are very important, but in a period of high
uncertainty and fast technological change, public policies may require
an iterative approach with continuous learning
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MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU
A Tool for Productive Development Policies
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Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru
Bogota, 9 November 2017

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Piero Ghezzi presentation for the 20th TCI Global Conference

  • 1. MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU A Tool for Productive Development Policies Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru
  • 2. MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU A Tool for Productive Development Policies 2 Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru Bogota, 9 November 2017
  • 3. Development has equaled industrialization Source: Kennedy (1989) & The Groningen Growth & Development Centre (2017). Author’s Elaboration. 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 UK USA Germany Japan Korea China ManufacturingshareofGDP% Beginning of Industrialization 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 UK USA Germany Japan Korea China ManufacturingshareofGDP% Beginning of Industrialization Peak of Industrialization
  • 4. Manufacturing: the “growth escalator” • It offered significant advantages: High and growing productivity (unconditional convergence) Large employment generation for unskilled labor Not limited by domestic market size Generation of “capacities” 4
  • 5. Quickest way to boost productivity : structural transformation
  • 6. Structural Transformation has been a strong contributor to productivity growth… Source: McMillan, Rodrik & Spúlveda (2016) and Rodrik & McMillan (2011). Author’s Elaboration. …but its contribution has now declined -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 India (90 - 99) Brazil (65 - 79) Botswana (70-80) Latin America (50 - 75) Korea (70 - 90) Vietnam (90-00) Contribution to productivity growth (pp) -3 -2 -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 India (90 - 99) India (00 - 04) Brazil (65-79) Brazil (90 - 05) Botswana (70-80) Botswana (00 - 10) Latin America (50 - 75) Latin America (90 - 05) Korea (70 - 90) Korea (95 - 10) Vietnam (90 - 00) Vietnam (00 - 08) Contribution to productivity growth (pp) Early Period Late period
  • 7. What explains this decreased contribution? Premature deindustrialization Labor-saving technological change Late industrializers can´t compete on low wages But we may not know the complete answer yet 7
  • 8. In general, EM productivity growth has declined Source: Conference Board, FMI – WEO (abril 2016). 2.00 0.40 1.10 0.20 0.00 0.20 0.00 0.50 1.00 1.50 2.00 2.50 EMERGING ECONOMIES ADVANCED ECONOMIES WORLD TOTALTFP 2003 - 2010 2011 - 2014 -1.8 pp. -0.9 pp. -0.4 pp.
  • 9. How are we going to “replace” manufacturing as the growth escalator? Multiple sectors (in addition to manufacturing) with manufacturing-like characteristics To increase productivity within each sector 9
  • 10. Traditional agriculture 1. Very limited use of technology 2. Tillage/plowing (soil erosion) 3. Low (and stagnant) productivity 4. Repetitive tasks not used elsewhere 5. Very vulnerable
  • 11. Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty and maximize efficiency gains Modern agriculture Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty and maximize efficiency gains
  • 12. Before planting 1. Adaptation of best seeds to local conditions 2. Use of germplasm bank for cloning the best 3. Large scale nurseries of seedlings 4. Genome editing 5. Development of organisms for biological control of pests
  • 13. Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty and maximize efficiency gains Modern agriculture Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest
  • 14. Pre-harvest 1. Sensors info to optimize fertilizers, water and pesticides (or organisms for biological pest control) per parcel 2. Optimal density of planting (multispectral analysis) 3. 24/7 monitoring 4. Very high productivity
  • 15. Absolute control of all phases of the productive process to reduce uncertainty and maximize efficiency gains Modern agriculture Before planting Pre-harvest Post-harvest
  • 16. Post-harvest 1. Machine learning for sorting products 2. Immediate cooling 3. Maximization of shelf- life of products
  • 17. “ Farms are becoming like factories: tightly controlled operations for turning out reliable products, immune as far as possible from vagaries of nature “ (The Economist, June 2016)
  • 18. Not only farms are becoming like factories: Modern Livestock Raising Modern Aquaculture Mining Knowledge Intensive Business Services, etc. • WHAT you produce may be less important than HOW you produce it 18
  • 19. Objetive: maximize productivity of ALL sectors • Need to Identify and remove constraints to the productivity growth of all sectors. This is precisely what Productive Development Policies are about. • Not easy. Increased uncertainty/fast-paced technological change. Higher International Standards (environmental, labor, phytosanitary, etc.) • Multiple public and private actors need to cooperate to solve coordination failures • This process of cooperation needs to be institutionalized 19
  • 20. Public sector stakeholders Private sector stakeholders Public – public coordination problems Private - private coordination problems Public - private coordination problems Which coordination failures?
  • 22. What is a Mesa Ejecutiva (ME)? A ME is a tool designed in Perú to implement more effectively PDPs.  It is a public-private working group that….  …identifies and removes the bottlenecks that affect the productivity of a sector (forestry, tourism, agro-export, etc.) or factor (logistics, capital markets, transit, etc.) It focuses on implementation and on the specifics. Not on general discussions. It includes key public and private stakeholders around sector/factor. It does not replace ministries or public agencies. It works with them. 22
  • 23. Who participates in a ME? Ground level body High level body - Private sector stakeholders - Public sector stakeholders - A dedicated team that coordinates the ME MORE CONTEXTUAL KNOWLEDGE - Ministers and above (can´t be just one minister) MORE CONVENING AND COORDINATING CAPACITIES THEY COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER
  • 24. Types of MEs Meetings Periodic Sessions: regular meetings where representatives of GLB of the ME participate and where progress is presented. High periodicity (weekly or biweekly) works as pressure mechanism. Inter-sessional Meetings: smaller (bilateral or multilateral) meetings in which solutions to problems identified during regular sessions are implemented. Could include HLB. Dedicated team makes sure there is continuous progress 24
  • 25. What does government provide in a ME?  Government, with respect to the private sector, differentiates between MPs (“my problems”) and YPs (“your problems” ):  MPs are related to the public goods and services that government must provide as inputs for private production.  YPs are things that private sector needs to do to be competitive.  ME should provide only MPs 25
  • 26. What does government provide in a ME? (II)  MEs help government to align its supply of public goods and services (MPs). For example:  Reduction of red tape (norms and implementation)  Regulation that is adequate to productive reality of the sector  Fill in loopholes  Help complying with technical requirements for new export markets  Complementary public sector interventions.  Creation of new public entities (and/or improve existing ones)  Public infrastructure suited to productive needs of the sector.  Incentives to promote innovation suitable to the sector  Design of sector-specific training programs 26
  • 27. Public sector stakeholders Private sector stakeholders Public – public coordination problems Private - private coordination problems Public - private coordination problems How do MEs help with coordination failures?
  • 29. Steps to launch a ME Define a sector / factor candidate Decide if ME is feasible Launch ME No ME (not yet) - As narrow as necessary (i.e. common problems) but as broad as possible (i.e. move the needle) - Is the private sector self-organized - Commitment to participate in ME? - Does it involve several public entities? Yes No
  • 30. Steps to start operating a ME 1. Set a LT objective and generate initial list of problem/ solutions 2. Chose 3 or 4 problems and start to solve them 4. Solve other problems and incorporate new Elevate to high level bodyIf process hits a wall - Budget allocation - Dispute resolution - Regulation - Convening other actors
  • 31. In public policy sometimes we think we did our job because: We passed a law, enacted a regulation, produced new guidelines, etc. We created a new public sector institution We launched a program We allocated budget to achieve a given objective We copied international “best practices” 31
  • 32. But are we having an impact on the ground? Very often we are not We need to see where, in the whole chain, the process breaks Are the norms adequate? Are they being implemented correctly? Or even being implemented at all?  Is money allocated being spent? And well? Are “best practices” really adequate to local reality? Frequent ME sessions allows to “keep us honest”. And make adjustments/corrections. 32
  • 34. MEs in Peru • The Ministry of Production of Peru created 8 MEs in 2015-16 • Forestry • Aquaculture • Creative Industries • Textile • Gastrononomical • Agroexports • Logistics • High-Impact Enterpreneurship • New government initially discontinued MEs but has relaunched them due to private sector demand • It shows the importance of “getting things done” for continuity 34 Sectorial Transversal
  • 35. Example 1: Forestry Mesa Ejecutiva (I) • The sector has two subsectors: Forest plantations and Forest concessions in the Amazon jungle • There are 10 to 12 million hectares in the Amazon jungle ready for forest concessions. It is high quality wood • Also, in the jungle there are approximately 4 millions Has. ready for reforestation. Inexpensive land, abundant sunshine and rainfall, and privileged topography. • But sector has not lived up to its potential: • Less than 2 million has. of the Amazon Forest are utilized in concessions. And less than 40k has. have been reforested (for a commercial/industrial use) • Peru´s forestry exports: stagnant in the last 10 years 35 0 10 20 30 40 50 Clonal Plantations Peru and Brazil Peru Brazil Uruguay New Zealand Mexico Chile Argentina South Africa Australia USA Canada Finland Sweden m3 / ha / year VOLUME INCREASES IN FORESTRY PLANTATIONS
  • 38. Example 1: Forestry Mesa Ejecutiva (II) • First phase of Forestry ME operated from Dec 2014 until July 2016 • It included 6 Ministries, other 4 public entities and private sector. • New government stopped ME but it was re-launched on Feb. 2017 • It included more actors: regional/local authorities and small producers (represented by the recently created CONAFOR-Peru) • For the first time, forestry´s full potential is understood. 38
  • 39. Forestry ME: All Actors Improve • Public sector entities are “forced” to coordinate. Likewise different levels of government (national/regional/local) have to coordinate • Government entities started to learn how the forestry sector really functions • It has generated institutional memory. It reduced the impact of “turbulence” resulting from government change • Private sector starts to understand how public sector works • It promotes associativity. Example, creation of CONAFOR-Peru (entity that includes 16 regional small business associations) • Private banks have started to focus on the sector. First loans ever 39
  • 40. Before After Forestry plantations not recognized as different from forest concessions in the Amazon Jungle New Law and Regulation (led by ME) recognizes plantation trees as crops No financing for the sector (particularly plantations). Banking system did not know the sector. Creation of new fund. Approximately S/.120 million of new loans through banking system. Production can be used as collateral It took up to 8 months to obtain a permit to extract wood from plantations No permit is now required It took up to a year to register a plantation property It takes 3 days to register plantation properties Forestry ME: Key Achievements (Plantations) 40 No interest in forest plantations by foreign investors Some of the largest global forest funds are coming. Launching of local forest funds
  • 41. Before After OSINFOR, national Entity in charge of supervision, did not trust plans approved by regional authorities: uncertainty for investors OSINFOR has now accepted to accompany regional authorities in early inspections (and approvals). Budget is being allocated to strengthen implementation For 15 years there were no new concessions in the Amazon Jungle 2 Million Hectares recently concessioned by Ucayali and Loreto Entities at different government levels (national, regional and local) had different standards about timber resources. New Protocol with the same standards at different levels of government has been approved. It is now being utilized. No guidelines reflecting productive reality of the sector 12 new guidelines have been isused and have been implemented Forestry ME: Key Achievements (Concessions) 41 No traceability system. 25% of trees reported in the operating plans did not actually exist Significant improvements in traceability system. Percentage has fallen to 10%.
  • 42. Example 2: Agroexports Mesa Ejecutiva • Peruvian agro-exports have grown from USD400 millions to USD 4,800 millions in the last 15 years. • Continued high growth will require government support in research (INIA), access to new export markets (SENASA) and infrastructure (MTC) • The Agro-export ME is made up by 5 Ministries, other public entities and representatives of the private sector. • The Agro-export ME worked in the Ministry of Production in 2016. Re-launched by the Ministry of Agriculture on May 2017. 42
  • 43. Before After Identification of products prioritized for the opening of new export markets was in charge only of SENASA (Agricultural Health Authority) There is now a list (agreed in the ME by public and private stakeholder) about the products prioritized. The agricultural Research Institute (INIA) had a research agenda divorced from private sector demand/information Private and public participants of the ME have agreed on the list of products to be investigated in 2017 and 2018. Restrictions to the chocolate and cocoa Peruvian exports to the European Union because of the presence of heavy metals (Cadmium) National Plan for the Reduction of Heavy Metal Pollution in the Productive Value Chain of Cocoa – Chocolate It is difficult to import genetic material Simplification of the management of genetic material (because INIA is able to import it for short periods). Priority list has been generated. Agroexports ME: Key Achievements 43 The functional, technical and managerial structure of SENASA is outdated. Draft bill to strengthen it had been dormant for years The ME/SENASA have finalized bill. It is now being presented to Congress.
  • 44. Example 3: Aquaculture Mesa Ejecutiva • Peru has likely comparative advantages in Aquaculture due to sunshine, cheap energy, extensive sea (and water abundance in the jungle). • Our largest shrimp producers are already getting (in intensive ponds) TM100 per ha/year, by far the highest in the world • Despite growth in previous years, aquaculture exports are still small (USD270 mln). Ecuador, with very similar underlying conditions, exports 10 times that amount. • Aquaculture ME started operating on May 2015 until July 2016 . The ME was made up by two Ministries, other public entities and representatives of the private sector. • It was relaunched in September by Ministry of Finance. 44
  • 45. Before After Many of the pre-requisites for aquaculture operations were related to extractive fishing No longer. All extractive fishing pre-requisites have been eliminated Triplicity (or more) of requirement by different Government Agencies (Produce, OEFA, Sanipes) They have been eliminated It took up to 2 years to obtain an aquaculture concession It now takes 6 months No National Fisheries Health Agency. There was a low level direction in one government agency Sanipes (the National Fisheries health agency) was created in Nov 2015. Thanks to ME “it hit the ground running”, including opening of operations across the country Aquaculture ME : Key Achievements 45 It was not possible to export shrimp to China Chinese markets has now been opened and first exports within 6 months An outdated regulation that had the same requisites to export all products to all countries Regulation tailor made to each product and country. Significant reduction of requirements Exports of scallops to EU were in danger partly because of inadequate equipment New equipment (MASA MASA) with much quicker and accurate results was acquired. Scallop exports to EU now ok.
  • 46. 46 Example 4: Logistics ME This resulted in: • Additional charges by APMT. • Increase of the freight of the ships, by the delay of the stay of the ships. • Increase in the cost of renting the trucks and the waiting time of these • Truck drivers exposure to citizen insecurity while awaiting their attention on the street. • Low competitiveness of Callao port in relation to other ports in the region. PROBLEM OF ENTRY TO CALLAO PORT The admission to the port concessioned to APM Terminals took between 5 to 6 hours. Significant vehicular congestion outside the port
  • 47. 47 One example of solving coordination issues: Logistics ME ACTION TAKEN . The Road Reordering Pilot Project was implemented to eliminate congestion of heavy vehicles in the avenues close to the port. • The Plan was promoted by a working group led by the National Port Authority (APN) and made up of MININTER, PROVÍAS, UNT, PNP and MPC. • It allowed the use of 3 lanes of entrance in the avenue Manco Capac. • PROVIAS reprogrammed ill-calibrated traffic lights • MININTER with the Transit Police established, in order to facilitate the flow of traffic, 3 control points, in: I. Crossing Contralmirante Mora avenue with Atalaya, II. Atalaya with Guardia Chalaca and, III. In Manco Cápac avenue. • APN created a WhatsApp group for urgent communications between members of the ME, with the aim of quickly solving traffic problems • The private sector (ASPPOR) has instructed its drivers regarding the Pilot Plan.
  • 48. 48
  • 49. 49 The results of coordinating: Waiting time declined to less than 2 hours.
  • 50. Less important / effective More important/effective Did you pick the very best industries based on comparative advantage, cluster centrality, growth, or other technical metrics? To have a commited group of people from both the public and private sector. Big-bang approach launching a large number of Mesas Ejecutivas To start slowly and accumulate “know how”. Over time increase number of MEs. Sequential Priorization. Provide MEs with big budgets To have an effective ME dedicated team that make things happen. Long periods of consultation and study with the private sector, thorough analyses, long reports, etc. To start solving 3 or 4 problems from the very beginning to create “momentum” Lessons from MEs 50 To have a clear road map from the outset that simply has to be implemented (linear approach) To start implementing and rapidly learn what works and what does not, iterate, and improve (recursive approach)
  • 51. Other Lessons from MEs  ME sessions need to have a clear periodicity. Weekly or biweekly periodicity appears to be ideal to keep constant pressure to deliver.  To have a dedicated team that makes sure there is continuous progress is probably the most important determinant of success of MEs as a tool.  It is important to secure that the public sector participants “own the achievements” of the ME.  Important to maintain the discipline of focusing on measures that increase productivity. Deprioritize exemptions that, instead, compensate for low productivity.  Due to the mistrust that exists in society regarding public-private dialogue, transparency is fundamental.  MEs must receive support from the very top of the government. Otherwise they will hit a wall. However, it is not an absolute necessity to have them depending from the President or Primer Minister 51
  • 52. Some additional points  MEs are an invaluable tool for transparently obtaining information from the productive private sector.  MEs are very labor intensive. But the cumulative effect of many "small" measures is often greater than that of a major reform.  The MEs in Peru have solved many problems in the productive sectors. That is important. But more importantly, the MEs have allowed to learn how to identify and solve problems.  There are not many successful and proven PDPs tools. The MEs are. They could be progressively extended (on issues beyond PDPs) to the entire State, which should be working with a “ME chip”  Clear and stable rules are very important, but in a period of high uncertainty and fast technological change, public policies may require an iterative approach with continuous learning 52
  • 53. MESAS EJECUTIVAS IN PERU A Tool for Productive Development Policies 53 Piero Ghezzi, Former Minister of Production of Peru Bogota, 9 November 2017

Editor's Notes

  1. Falta incluir en la fuente growthecon
  2. There are problems of public-private coordination. The communication between public and private sectors can be complicated (capture, mistrust, etc.) But in decision-making, the public sector needs information that sometimes only the private stakeholders of the sector/factor can provide. Likewise, the public sector has information and a perspective that complements the private one. The result of the lack of coordination may be bad policies; or good polices that don´t achieve, on the ground, their objectives. There are problems of public-public coordination. The solutions of many problems in government involve multiple public entities. But those entities only rarely coordinate between themselves. This normally generates public policies that are not necessarily aligned, excessively bureaucratic procedures, implementation gaps (where one public entity does not implement, for example, the guidelines given by another) , etc. Public sector bandwidth is limited. The open mind needed to listen to (and understand) the private sector and the ability to solve problems are, many times, scarce in the public sector. Also, ministers are subject to multiple demands on their time. Private-Private??
  3. Relleno rojo al final
  4. From the point of view of convener/policymaker
  5. Here we want to emphasize the issue of non-linearity. We tend to think linearly and logically : we think we need to have a full diagnostic of the secto/factor to generate a plan/list of public policies that then basically need to be implemented. Public policy needs to be much more recursive, a lot is learned during implementation. It makes much more sense to start implementing from the outset. This helps fine tuning/polishing the initial list. There are relatively quick mini feedback loops.. MEs go again the linear logic. They take an unexpected turn. If you wish they are a bit counter intuitive some times. Generate the initial list of the main problems/bottlenecks and their potential solutions (the “Matrix”) Not too much time spent in designing a perfectly conceived plan Make use of public-private information complementarity Filter problems (MPs and YPs) Chose 3 or 4 problems from the list and start to solve them More important than to continue enhancing list is to start solving problems Those “moving the needle”, combination of important and easier-to-fix Important to generate positive momentum Based on execution, polish the initial list During implementation problems and their solutions are better understood The “Matrix” (the list of problems and potential solutions) is live. It is continuously polished as new information arrives. Definitive solutions could be identified during ME sessions or during inter-sessional meetings Continuous “information sharing” as well as “learning sharing” between public and private participants. MEs encourage “short learning cycles” to make corrections when needed Start solving other problems and incorporate new ones As bandwidth increases start solving other problems New problems could also be incorporated Over time, increasing need to include participants from high-level body Steps (4)-(7) are recursive. Process is not linear where, in an initial phase, all problems and solutions are perfectly identified and, in a second one, agreed solutions implemented. Instead, there is continuous iteration with many loops and mini loops.
  6. Sometimes we think we did our job because: We passed a law, enacted a regulation, produced guidelines, etc. We created a public sector institution We allocated budget to achieve an objective We copied international “best practices” (Isomorphic Mimicry) But we may be fooling ourselves Implementation is key. We need to make sure things have changed “on the ground” Are the norms ok? Are they being implemented? Is money allocated really achieving its objetive? Are “best practices” really useful to our reality? We need to see where, in the whole chain, the process breaks and make corrections. This is the public policy equivalent to “just-in-time” production. We need to be realistic If state capabilities are weak there is a need to be creative, using incentives to improve implementability. Ideally, we try to align private incentives with public policy objectives to make it less taxing on government
  7. Sometimes we think we did our job because: We passed a law, enacted a regulation, produced guidelines, etc. We created a public sector institution We allocated budget to achieve an objective We copied international “best practices” (Isomorphic Mimicry) But we may be fooling ourselves Implementation is key. We need to make sure things have changed “on the ground” Are the norms ok? Are they being implemented? Is money allocated really achieving its objetive? Are “best practices” really useful to our reality? We need to see where, in the whole chain, the process breaks and make corrections. This is the public policy equivalent to “just-in-time” production. We need to be realistic If state capabilities are weak there is a need to be creative, using incentives to improve implementability. Ideally, we try to align private incentives with public policy objectives to make it less taxing on government
  8. incluir foto de crecimiento de madera (solo el crecimiento de madera) que esta en el siguiente slide luego del bullet que termina en topography Insertar foto de evolución de exportaciones e importaciones luego del ultimo bullet
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  10. Lista es “viva2?
  11. 1. ANTES Se exigían requisitos que no están vinculados a la actividad acuícola sino a la pesquera, ejemplo; la ANA exigía que las concesiones acuícolas cuenten con autorización de vertimientos.   DESPUES Todo lo de pesca se dejó de pedir. Por ejemplo, se eliminó el requisito de la autorización de vertimientos por ser innecesario.     2. ANTES Duplicidad de monitoreos ambientales. De los 30 análisis fiscalizados por OEFA (RM 019-2011-PRODUCE) del monitoreo ambiental acuícola, las 6 más importantes, también eran exigidas por SANIPES. Duplicidad de presentación de documentación de los monitoreos ambientales entre OEFA (para evaluación ambiental) y PRODUCE (para su ingreso en las estadísticas ambientales). Duplicidad de procedimientos dentro Produce. Por ejemplo, el administrado presenta su EIA ante la DGCHD y los monitoreos ambientales ante la DGSP y la evaluación productiva ante la DGCHD y la DGP.    DESPUES Se elimina duplicidad. Del monitoreo ambiental se eliminan exámenes de laboratorio que ya exige SANIPES. Ahora se presenta solo ante OEFA la documentación de los monitoreos ambientales, que remitirá copia a PRODUCE. Con relación a los procedimientos de PRODUCE, se unifican las funciones ambientales en la Dirección General de Asuntos Ambientales.     3.ANTES La obtención de una concesión podía demorar hasta dos años.   DESPUES La obtención de la concesión dura 6 meses. Se viene trabajando en la mejora de la VUA, a fin de lograr que el plazo se reduzca.       4. ANTES Existía la Dirección General del Servicio Nacional de Sanidad Pesquera, dependiente del ITP. We are the National Fisheries Health Agency, an autonomous entity attached to the Ministry of Production, responsible for regulating, supervising and supervising ... El trabajo era limitado debido a insuficientes recursos económicos, personal o autonomía. Su presupuesto era de 9 millones de soles. No existían laboratorios en provincias y el Laboratorio de Ventanilla no tenía las condiciones adecuadas para realizar el control y vigilancia sanitaria. Esto causaba sobrecostos a los administrados que debían remitir sus muestras (que se demoraban) a Lima. Tenía personal insuficiente, poco capacitado y especializado.   DESPUES   Se creó el Organismo Nacional de Sanidad Pesquera – SANIPES ( Ley N° 30063 del 2013, y Reglamento en DS N° 012-2013-PRODUCE). Se ha convertido en un organismo sanitario reconocido nacional e internacionalmente. Hoy su presupuesto es de 41 millones de soles. Se viene reforzando el trabajo en todas las sedes con la contratación de personal de laboratorios e inspectores. El SANIPES tiene Catorce (14) sedes desconcentradas. Se han implementando laboratorios en Sechura, Ventanilla (Callao) y Tumbes y este año se implementará el laboratorio de Puno. En proceso el Proyecto del Nuevo Laboratorio de Lima. Todo esto permite que los administrados ahorren tiempo y dinero.   5.   ANTES Las exportaciones a Europa estaban en peligro. Los análisis de biotoxinas lipofílicas se realizaban con el método biológico (utilizando ratones). Demoraban 48 horas y los resultados eran cualitativos (positivo o negativo). Este método fue descontinuado por la UE en el 2015. Por ello los riesgos a las exportaciones. En el Perú sólo existe un laboratorio privado que analiza muestras de biotoxinas, sólo puede analizar 30 muestras al día y cuesta 1,700 soles   DESPUES Se puede continuar exportaciones a Europa. Se ha adquirido el equipo de Laboratorio solicitado por la UE (costo: 3 millones de soles), para los análisis de biotoxinas lipofílicas. El equipo MASA MASA permite realizar un análisis con método químico acreditado con resultados en 7 minutos (y más exactos) con resultados cuantitativos de ocho moléculas. En proceso de compra del segundo equipo. Asimismo, se ha modificado el tarifario de SANIPES para que el MASA MASA pueda brindar servicios a los administrados. Este laboratorio analizará hasta 90 muestras diarias a un costo de 1,200 soles.     5.   ANTES El mercado chino está cerrado para el langostino peruano.   DESPUES China (AQSIQ) ha respondido oficialmente que el Perú cumple los requisitos para exportar langostinos a China. Ya se firmó el Protocolo con el Gobierno Chino (setiembre 2017). En 6 meses deben realizarse las primeras exportaciones.     6.   ANTES   Se utilizaba una norma desfasada: Manual de Indicadores o Criterios de Seguridad Alimentaria e Higiene para Alimentos y Piensos de Origen Pesquero y Acuícola, (Dirección Ejecutiva del ITP, 2010). La norma pedía mismos requisitos para exportar a todos los países, cuando cada país tiene sus propios requisitos y no diferenciaba entre acuicultura y pesquería.     DESPUES   Se ha elaborado una norma moderna: el Manual de Indicadores Sanitarios de Inocuidad y Calidad para los productos pesqueros y acuícolas para mercado nacional y de exportación. Establece requisitos de acuerdo al mercado en el cual se comercializará el producto. Por ejemplo: Antes se exigían 9 exámenes para la exportación de conchas de abanico a Europa. Hoy se exigen 4 exámenes.