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MEDIASTINAL STAGING
              FOR NON-SMALL CELL LUNG CANCER




                                 Hong Kwan Kim
                          Samsung Medical Center




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WHY
              MEDIASTINAL STAGING ?




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O   O   O   O




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O   O   O   O




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Surgery




             Radiotherapy




             Chemotherapy




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Surgery


                            Local treatment



             Radiotherapy




             Chemotherapy




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Surgery


                             Local treatment



             Radiotherapy




                            Systemic treatment
             Chemotherapy




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Surgery


                             Local treatment     Localized disease



             Radiotherapy




                            Systemic treatment
             Chemotherapy




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Surgery


                             Local treatment     Localized disease



             Radiotherapy




                            Systemic treatment   Systemic disease
             Chemotherapy




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Localized disease       Systemic disease



                                 ?



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Localized disease   Systemic disease




                      TNM staging !




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Localized disease   Systemic disease




                      TNM staging !




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True     Occult
             Localized disease
              localized  systemic    Systemic disease
               disease  Metastasis




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True     Occult
             Localized disease
              localized  systemic    Systemic disease
               disease  Metastasis



             N0 N1 N2 N3                   M1




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Occult
                 systemic
                Metastasis



                N2 N3

             Mediastinal LN metastasis




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N2   N3
                                    M1
              N0-1


             Primary surgery




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N2   N3

             ON0-1
                                    M1


             Primary surgery




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N2   N3

             ON0-1                  X
                                    M1


             Primary surgery




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N2
                               XX
                               N3

             ON0-1
                                    M1


             Primary surgery




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?X X       N2   N3

             ON0-1
                                    M1


             Primary surgery




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N2



                  Primary surgery
                                    ?
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N2   Multimodal approach   !


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Accurate staging is needed




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Accurate staging is needed
              To select the optimal treatment




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Accurate staging is needed
              To select the optimal treatment
              To predict prognosis after treatment




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)      FN            TN




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)       FN           TN

                        Sensitivity

                           TP
                        TP + FN



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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)      FN            TN

                                      Specificity

                                         TN
                                      FP + TN



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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)      FN            TN




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP          PPV
             Test (-)      FN            TN



                                                      TP
                                                    TP + FP



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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)      FN            TN          NPV


                                                      TN
                                                    TN + FN



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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)       FN           TN

                        Sensitivity   Specificity




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP
             Test (-)       FN           TN

                        Sensitivity   Specificity

             The prevalence of disease is already known




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP            FP
             Test (-)       FN            TN

                        Sensitivity   Specificity

             The prevalence of disease is already known
             Useful to compare different tests for the
             same population


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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP         PPV
             Test (-)      FN            TN         NPV




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP         PPV
             Test (-)      FN            TN         NPV

             In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP         PPV
             Test (-)      FN            TN         NPV

             In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence
             We only know that the patient has negative or
             positive test




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Disease (+)   Disease (-)

             Test (+)       TP           FP         PPV
             Test (-)      FN            TN         NPV

             In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence
             We only know that the patient has negative or
             positive test
             More useful in an individual case



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Imaging


             Needle


             Surgical


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CT
             Imaging    PET
                        PET/CT

                        EUS
             Needle     TBNA
                        EBUS

                        Mediastinoscopy
             Surgical   Chamberlain
                        VATS



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CT
             Imaging    PET               Non-invasive
                        PET/CT

                        EUS
                                           Minimally
             Needle     TBNA
                                           invasive
                        EBUS

                        Mediastinoscopy
             Surgical   Chamberlain         Invasive
                        VATS



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CT
             Imaging    PET               Non-invasive
                        PET/CT

                        EUS
                                           Minimally
             Needle     TBNA
                                           invasive
                        EBUS

                        Mediastinoscopy
             Surgical   Chamberlain         Invasive
                        VATS



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CT
             Imaging    PET             Non-invasive
                        PET/CT


             Essential component of TNM staging




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2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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CT
               Sensitivity          51%
               Specificity           86%




             2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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CT
                             Sensitivity          51%


                    rate
                             Specificity           86%

             Inaccu




                           2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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Why inaccurate?




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Why inaccurate?
             Only based on LN size (short axis diameter)




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Why inaccurate?
             Only based on LN size (short axis diameter)

                    Benign    Malignant




                     cm


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PET




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PET
              Metabolic activity




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PET
                                      Metabolic activity


             Alteration in tissue metabolism precedes
             anatomic change




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PET
                                      Metabolic activity


             Alteration in tissue metabolism precedes
             anatomic change
                     More sensitive than CT




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Anatomic resolution is limited in PET




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Anatomic resolution is limited in PET

             PET/CT




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PET
               Sensitivity          74%
               Specificity           85%




             2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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PET
                    than CT
               tter
                                Sensitivity          74%
             Be                 Specificity           85%




                              2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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PET
                       than CT
                 tter
                                    Sensitivity          74%
             Be                     Specificity           85%

                       ccu rate
             Stil l ina



                                  2007, Chest, Silvestri et al
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FP rates are substantially high




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FP rates are substantially high
             FN rates cannot be ignored




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False positives




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False positives
              Inflammation (+)




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False positives
              Inflammation (+)   LN size




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False positives
              Inflammation (+)   LN size
                                FDG uptake




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False positives
              Inflammation (+)     LN size
                                  FDG uptake
               Granulomatous disease




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False positives
              Inflammation (+)     LN size
                                  FDG uptake
               Granulomatous disease
               Postobstructive pneumonia




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False negatives




                10mm




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False negatives




                10mm     1mm




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False negatives




                10mm     1mm   0.1mm




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False negatives
              1,000,000,000




                 10mm         1mm   0.1mm




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False negatives
              1,000,000,000   1,000,000




                 10mm           1mm       0.1mm




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False negatives
              1,000,000,000   1,000,000   1,000




                 10mm           1mm       0.1mm




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False negatives
              1,000,000,000      1,000,000         1,000




                 10mm              1mm             0.1mm

                              Imaging tests cannot detect these


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Malignant




                Benign

             Shadow is not real

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Mediastinal staging solely based on
             imaging tests is insufficient




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Mediastinal staging solely based on
             imaging tests is insufficient

                  Tissue confirmation should be done!




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CT
             Imaging    PET               Non-invasive
                        PET/CT

                        EUS
                                           Minimally
             Needle     TBNA
                                           invasive
                        EBUS

                        Mediastinoscopy
             Surgical   Chamberlain         Invasive
                        VATS



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CT
             Imaging    PET               Non-invasive
                        PET/CT

                        EUS
                                             Minimally
             Needle     TBNA
                                             invasive
                        EBUS

                        Mediastinoscopy
             Surgical   Chamberlain          Invasive
                        VATS

                        Tissue confirmation
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EUS
                             Minimally
             Needle   TBNA
                             invasive
                      EBUS




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Conventional TBNA
             (Transbronchial needle aspiration)




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Conventional TBNA
             (Transbronchial needle aspiration)


                                    Blind technique




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Conventional TBNA
             (Transbronchial needle aspiration)


                                    Blind technique

                                    Operator dependent




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Conventional TBNA
             (Transbronchial needle aspiration)


                                    Blind technique

                                    Operator dependent

                                    Too high FN rate




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy

                            Minimally invasive




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe

                            Repeat-EBUS is easy




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe

                            Repeat-EBUS is easy

                            1, 2R, 4R, 2L, 4L, 7, 10




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Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS)
                            Real-time biopsy

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe

                            Repeat-EBUS is easy

                            1, 2R, 4R, 2L, 4L, 7, 10




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70 patients
             Sensitivity 95.7%
             Specificity 100%


                                 2004, Chest,Yasufuku et al
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Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS)




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Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS)

                            Minimally invasive




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Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS)

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe




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Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS)

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe

                            4L, 5, 7, 8, 9




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Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS)

                            Minimally invasive

                            Safe

                            4L, 5, 7, 8, 9




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242 patients
             Sensitivity 91%
             Specificity 100%

                               2005, J Clin Oncol, Annema et al
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2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al
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93%       100%

                   2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al
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Biopsy is usually recommended for
             patients with suspicious LN




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Biopsy is usually recommended for
             patients with suspicious LN

             High prevalence of LN metastasis




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Biopsy is usually recommended for
             patients with suspicious LN

             High prevalence of LN metastasis

             Sensitivity can be overestimated




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n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)   n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                         Test (+)

             Test (-)                     Test (-)




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High prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)   n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                         Test (+)

             Test (-)                     Test (-)




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High prevalence               Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)   n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                         Test (+)

             Test (-)                     Test (-)




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                          Test (+)

             Test (-)                          Test (-)


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                  0       Test (+)                   0
             Test (-)                          Test (-)


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                  0       Test (+)                   0
             Test (-)             20           Test (-)              80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)                  0       Test (+)                   0
             Test (-)     5       20           Test (-)      5       80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)        75        0       Test (+)         15        0
             Test (-)     5       20           Test (-)      5       80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)        75        0       Test (+)         15        0
             Test (-)     5       20           Test (-)      5       80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%
                Sensitivity               vs




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)        75        0       Test (+)         15        0
             Test (-)     5       20           Test (-)      5       80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%
                Sensitivity      93.8%    vs




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High prevalence                    Low prevalence

             n=100      N2 (+)   N2 (-)        n=100       N2 (+)   N2 (-)

         Test (+)        75        0       Test (+)         15        0
             Test (-)     5       20           Test (-)      5       80


                Prevalence       80%      vs         20%
                Sensitivity      93.8%    vs         75%




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93%       100%

                   2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al
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93%              100%



         Prevalence 68%

                          2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al
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Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN




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Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN


             “Subcentimeter LN can be biopsied, but
             there is a limit in sampling very small LN”
                                           Yasufuku Kazuhiro




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Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN


             “Subcentimeter LN can be biopsied, but
             there is a limit in sampling very small LN”
                                           Yasufuku Kazuhiro


             N3 stations are usually skipped



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Non-diagnostic samples

                        vs

              False-negative results




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Nobody confirms positive EUS or EBUS




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Nobody confirms positive EUS or EBUS

             ...Any chance of false-positive results?




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Factors influencing EBUS results




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Factors influencing EBUS results

             General anesthesia   Conscious sedation




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Factors influencing EBUS results

             General anesthesia   Conscious sedation

             21 gauge             22 gauge




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Factors influencing EBUS results

             General anesthesia   Conscious sedation

             21 gauge             22 gauge

             Thoracic surgeon     Pulmonologist




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Factors influencing EBUS results

             General anesthesia       Conscious sedation

             21 gauge                  22 gauge

             Thoracic surgeon          Pulmonologist

             Rapid On-Site Examination (cytopathologist)




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Factors influencing EBUS results

             General anesthesia       Conscious sedation

             21 gauge                  22 gauge

             Thoracic surgeon          Pulmonologist

             Rapid On-Site Examination (cytopathologist)

             Thoroughness of mediastinal LND




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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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N rates
             Hig   hF




                         2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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N rates
             Hig   hF




                         2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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“Negative results from EUS or EBUS should
         be further confirmed by mediastinoscopy”

                                  2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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Conventionally
             the Gold Standard




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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al
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4L




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4L




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4L

                  7




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4L

                  7




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4L

                  7
                      4R




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4L

                  7
                      4R




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There are many
             inaccessible stations




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There are many
             inaccessible stations




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Video mediastinoscope


                                 Easier

                                 Safer

                                 More convenient




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Video mediastinoscope


                                 Easier

                                 Safer

                                 More convenient




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2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al
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153 patients




                            2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al
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153 patients

             All patients underwent both EBUS
             and mediastinoscopy


                                       2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al
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All patients underwent both EBUS
             153 patients
             and mediastinoscopy




                           EBUS    Mediastinoscopy
             Sensitivity   81%         79%

             NPV           91%          90%
                                                    p = .78

                                       2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al
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2010, JAMA, Annema et al
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Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy

                   Competitive?

                                    2010, JAMA, Annema et al
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Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy

                   Competitive?

                                    2010, JAMA, Annema et al
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Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy

                   Competitive?

                                    2010, JAMA, Annema et al
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Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy

                   Complementary!

                                    2010, JAMA, Annema et al
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Anyway,




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Anyway,

             Tissue confirmation should be
             routinely done?




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2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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291 patients (1995 ~ 2001)




                                     2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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291 patients (1995 ~ 2001)
             Clinical stage I NSCLC




                                      2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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291 patients (1995 ~ 2001)
             Clinical stage I NSCLC
             N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy


                                      2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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291 patients (1995 ~ 2001)
             Clinical stage I NSCLC
             N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy
                20 pts (6.9%)

                                      2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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291 patients (1995 ~ 2001)
             Clinical stage I NSCLC
             N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy
                 20 pts (6.9%)



             Routine mediastinoscopy is necessary
             esp. for non-BAC type ADC


                                     2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al
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Ground glass opacity


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ADC in situ

         Ground glass opacity


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GGO-type ADC is increasing




                                  ADC in situ

         Ground glass opacity


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2010, Respirology, Park et al
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147 patients
             Clinical stage IA by PET/CT




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147 patients
                 Clinical stage IA by PET/CT


                   78
             Mediastinoscopy




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147 patients
                  Clinical stage IA by PET/CT


                   78
             Mediastinoscopy


               3        75
             N2 (+)    N2 (-)




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147 patients
                  Clinical stage IA by PET/CT


                   78                69
             Mediastinoscopy


               3        75             144
             N2 (+)    N2 (-)      Thoracotomy




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147 patients
                  Clinical stage IA by PET/CT


                   78                69
             Mediastinoscopy


               3        75             144
             N2 (+)    N2 (-)      Thoracotomy


                                   4         140
                                 N2 (+)     N2 (-)

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Probability of occult LN metastasis
             should be considered




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2006, EJCTS, de Langen et al
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2008, EJCTS, Al-Sarraf et al
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2008, EJCTS, Al-Sarraf et al
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2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al
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2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al
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2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al
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Therefore,




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Therefore,
             Mediastinal staging needs to be
             individualized




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2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT




                             2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative




                               2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative




         Surgery

                               2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative        Positive




         Surgery

                                    2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm




         Surgery

                                       2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm



                      Mediastinoscopy




         Surgery

                                        2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm
                                               EBUS / EUS

                      Mediastinoscopy




         Surgery

                                        2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm
                                               EBUS / EUS

                      Mediastinoscopy    Negative




         Surgery

                                        2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm
                                               EBUS / EUS

                      Mediastinoscopy    Negative

                                                    Positive




         Surgery

                                        2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative         Positive

                       Tissue confirm
                                                  EBUS / EUS

                      Mediastinoscopy       Negative

                                                       Positive




         Surgery    Multimodal treatment

                                           2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative              Positive

                          Tissue confirm
                                                     EBUS / EUS

                         Mediastinoscopy       Negative

                    Negative                              Positive




         Surgery       Multimodal treatment

                                              2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative              Positive

                          Tissue confirm
                                                     EBUS / EUS

                         Mediastinoscopy       Negative

                    Negative                              Positive




         Surgery       Multimodal treatment

                                              2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative              Positive

                          Tissue confirm
                                                     EBUS / EUS

                         Mediastinoscopy       Negative

                    Negative       Positive               Positive




         Surgery       Multimodal treatment

                                              2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT

         Negative              Positive

                          Tissue confirm
                                                     EBUS / EUS

                         Mediastinoscopy       Negative

                    Negative       Positive               Positive




         Surgery       Multimodal treatment

                                              2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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PET or PET/CT                  Central tumor
                                              Low FDG uptake tumor
         Negative              Positive       LN size > 1.5cm
                                              PET N1 disease
                          Tissue confirm
                                                       EBUS / EUS

                         Mediastinoscopy         Negative

                    Negative       Positive                 Positive




         Surgery       Multimodal treatment

                                                2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline
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Take-home message




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Take-home message

             Accurate mediastinal staging is important




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Take-home message

             Accurate mediastinal staging is important

             Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging
             tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates




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Take-home message

             Accurate mediastinal staging is important

             Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging
             tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates


             Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS




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Take-home message

             Accurate mediastinal staging is important

             Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging
             tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates


             Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS


             Negative results of needle techniques should be
             further confirmed by surgical staging


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Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS


             Negative results of needle techniques should be
             further confirmed by surgical staging



             Probability of occult LN metastasis should be
             considered




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Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS


             Negative results of needle techniques should be
             further confirmed by surgical staging



             Probability of occult LN metastasis should be
             considered


             Routine tissue confirmation regardless of
             clinical characteristics should be re-considered


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  • 1. MEDIASTINAL STAGING FOR NON-SMALL CELL LUNG CANCER Hong Kwan Kim Samsung Medical Center 12 5 7
  • 2. WHY MEDIASTINAL STAGING ? 12 5 7
  • 3. 12 5 7
  • 4. O O O O 12 5 7
  • 5. O O O O 12 5 7
  • 6. Surgery Radiotherapy Chemotherapy 12 5 7
  • 7. Surgery Local treatment Radiotherapy Chemotherapy 12 5 7
  • 8. Surgery Local treatment Radiotherapy Systemic treatment Chemotherapy 12 5 7
  • 9. Surgery Local treatment Localized disease Radiotherapy Systemic treatment Chemotherapy 12 5 7
  • 10. Surgery Local treatment Localized disease Radiotherapy Systemic treatment Systemic disease Chemotherapy 12 5 7
  • 11. Localized disease Systemic disease ? 12 5 7
  • 12. Localized disease Systemic disease TNM staging ! 12 5 7
  • 13. Localized disease Systemic disease TNM staging ! 12 5 7
  • 14. True Occult Localized disease localized systemic Systemic disease disease Metastasis 12 5 7
  • 15. True Occult Localized disease localized systemic Systemic disease disease Metastasis N0 N1 N2 N3 M1 12 5 7
  • 16. Occult systemic Metastasis N2 N3 Mediastinal LN metastasis 12 5 7
  • 17. N2 N3 M1 N0-1 Primary surgery 12 5 7
  • 18. N2 N3 ON0-1 M1 Primary surgery 12 5 7
  • 19. N2 N3 ON0-1 X M1 Primary surgery 12 5 7
  • 20. N2 XX N3 ON0-1 M1 Primary surgery 12 5 7
  • 21. ?X X N2 N3 ON0-1 M1 Primary surgery 12 5 7
  • 22. N2 Primary surgery ? 12 5 7
  • 23. N2 Multimodal approach ! 12 5 7
  • 24. Accurate staging is needed 12 5 7
  • 25. Accurate staging is needed To select the optimal treatment 12 5 7
  • 26. Accurate staging is needed To select the optimal treatment To predict prognosis after treatment 12 5 7
  • 27. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN 12 5 7
  • 28. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN Sensitivity TP TP + FN 12 5 7
  • 29. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN Specificity TN FP + TN 12 5 7
  • 30. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN 12 5 7
  • 31. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP PPV Test (-) FN TN TP TP + FP 12 5 7
  • 32. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN NPV TN TN + FN 12 5 7
  • 33. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN Sensitivity Specificity 12 5 7
  • 34. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN Sensitivity Specificity The prevalence of disease is already known 12 5 7
  • 35. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP Test (-) FN TN Sensitivity Specificity The prevalence of disease is already known Useful to compare different tests for the same population 12 5 7
  • 36. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP PPV Test (-) FN TN NPV 12 5 7
  • 37. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP PPV Test (-) FN TN NPV In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence 12 5 7
  • 38. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP PPV Test (-) FN TN NPV In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence We only know that the patient has negative or positive test 12 5 7
  • 39. Disease (+) Disease (-) Test (+) TP FP PPV Test (-) FN TN NPV In the real practice, we don’t know the prevalence We only know that the patient has negative or positive test More useful in an individual case 12 5 7
  • 40. Imaging Needle Surgical 12 5 7
  • 41. CT Imaging PET PET/CT EUS Needle TBNA EBUS Mediastinoscopy Surgical Chamberlain VATS 12 5 7
  • 42. CT Imaging PET Non-invasive PET/CT EUS Minimally Needle TBNA invasive EBUS Mediastinoscopy Surgical Chamberlain Invasive VATS 12 5 7
  • 43. CT Imaging PET Non-invasive PET/CT EUS Minimally Needle TBNA invasive EBUS Mediastinoscopy Surgical Chamberlain Invasive VATS 12 5 7
  • 44. CT Imaging PET Non-invasive PET/CT Essential component of TNM staging 12 5 7
  • 45. 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 46. CT Sensitivity 51% Specificity 86% 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 47. CT Sensitivity 51% rate Specificity 86% Inaccu 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 49. Why inaccurate? Only based on LN size (short axis diameter) 12 5 7
  • 50. Why inaccurate? Only based on LN size (short axis diameter) Benign Malignant cm 12 5 7
  • 51. PET 12 5 7
  • 52. PET Metabolic activity 12 5 7
  • 53. PET Metabolic activity Alteration in tissue metabolism precedes anatomic change 12 5 7
  • 54. PET Metabolic activity Alteration in tissue metabolism precedes anatomic change More sensitive than CT 12 5 7
  • 55. 12 5 7
  • 56. Anatomic resolution is limited in PET 12 5 7
  • 57. Anatomic resolution is limited in PET PET/CT 12 5 7
  • 58. PET Sensitivity 74% Specificity 85% 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 59. PET than CT tter Sensitivity 74% Be Specificity 85% 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 60. PET than CT tter Sensitivity 74% Be Specificity 85% ccu rate Stil l ina 2007, Chest, Silvestri et al 12 5 7
  • 61. 12 5 7
  • 62. FP rates are substantially high 12 5 7
  • 63. FP rates are substantially high FN rates cannot be ignored 12 5 7
  • 65. False positives Inflammation (+) 12 5 7
  • 66. False positives Inflammation (+) LN size 12 5 7
  • 67. False positives Inflammation (+) LN size FDG uptake 12 5 7
  • 68. False positives Inflammation (+) LN size FDG uptake Granulomatous disease 12 5 7
  • 69. False positives Inflammation (+) LN size FDG uptake Granulomatous disease Postobstructive pneumonia 12 5 7
  • 70. False negatives 10mm 12 5 7
  • 71. False negatives 10mm 1mm 12 5 7
  • 72. False negatives 10mm 1mm 0.1mm 12 5 7
  • 73. False negatives 1,000,000,000 10mm 1mm 0.1mm 12 5 7
  • 74. False negatives 1,000,000,000 1,000,000 10mm 1mm 0.1mm 12 5 7
  • 75. False negatives 1,000,000,000 1,000,000 1,000 10mm 1mm 0.1mm 12 5 7
  • 76. False negatives 1,000,000,000 1,000,000 1,000 10mm 1mm 0.1mm Imaging tests cannot detect these 12 5 7
  • 77. Malignant Benign Shadow is not real 12 5 7
  • 78. 12 5 7
  • 79. Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging tests is insufficient 12 5 7
  • 80. Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging tests is insufficient Tissue confirmation should be done! 12 5 7
  • 81. CT Imaging PET Non-invasive PET/CT EUS Minimally Needle TBNA invasive EBUS Mediastinoscopy Surgical Chamberlain Invasive VATS 12 5 7
  • 82. CT Imaging PET Non-invasive PET/CT EUS Minimally Needle TBNA invasive EBUS Mediastinoscopy Surgical Chamberlain Invasive VATS Tissue confirmation 12 5 7
  • 83. EUS Minimally Needle TBNA invasive EBUS 12 5 7
  • 84. Conventional TBNA (Transbronchial needle aspiration) 12 5 7
  • 85. Conventional TBNA (Transbronchial needle aspiration) Blind technique 12 5 7
  • 86. Conventional TBNA (Transbronchial needle aspiration) Blind technique Operator dependent 12 5 7
  • 87. Conventional TBNA (Transbronchial needle aspiration) Blind technique Operator dependent Too high FN rate 12 5 7
  • 89. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy 12 5 7
  • 90. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy Minimally invasive 12 5 7
  • 91. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy Minimally invasive Safe 12 5 7
  • 92. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy Minimally invasive Safe Repeat-EBUS is easy 12 5 7
  • 93. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy Minimally invasive Safe Repeat-EBUS is easy 1, 2R, 4R, 2L, 4L, 7, 10 12 5 7
  • 94. Endobronchial Ultrasound (EBUS) Real-time biopsy Minimally invasive Safe Repeat-EBUS is easy 1, 2R, 4R, 2L, 4L, 7, 10 12 5 7
  • 95. 70 patients Sensitivity 95.7% Specificity 100% 2004, Chest,Yasufuku et al 12 5 7
  • 97. Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS) Minimally invasive 12 5 7
  • 98. Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS) Minimally invasive Safe 12 5 7
  • 99. Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS) Minimally invasive Safe 4L, 5, 7, 8, 9 12 5 7
  • 100. Endoscopic Ultrasound (EUS) Minimally invasive Safe 4L, 5, 7, 8, 9 12 5 7
  • 101. 242 patients Sensitivity 91% Specificity 100% 2005, J Clin Oncol, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 102. 12 5 7
  • 103. 12 5 7
  • 104. 12 5 7
  • 105. 12 5 7
  • 106. 2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al 12 5 7
  • 107. 93% 100% 2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al 12 5 7
  • 108. 12 5 7
  • 109. 12 5 7
  • 110. Biopsy is usually recommended for patients with suspicious LN 12 5 7
  • 111. Biopsy is usually recommended for patients with suspicious LN High prevalence of LN metastasis 12 5 7
  • 112. Biopsy is usually recommended for patients with suspicious LN High prevalence of LN metastasis Sensitivity can be overestimated 12 5 7
  • 113. n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) Test (+) Test (-) Test (-) 12 5 7
  • 114. High prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) Test (+) Test (-) Test (-) 12 5 7
  • 115. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) Test (+) Test (-) Test (-) 12 5 7
  • 116. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) Test (+) Test (-) Test (-) Prevalence 80% vs 20% 12 5 7
  • 117. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 0 Test (+) 0 Test (-) Test (-) Prevalence 80% vs 20% 12 5 7
  • 118. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 0 Test (+) 0 Test (-) 20 Test (-) 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% 12 5 7
  • 119. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 0 Test (+) 0 Test (-) 5 20 Test (-) 5 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% 12 5 7
  • 120. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 75 0 Test (+) 15 0 Test (-) 5 20 Test (-) 5 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% 12 5 7
  • 121. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 75 0 Test (+) 15 0 Test (-) 5 20 Test (-) 5 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% Sensitivity vs 12 5 7
  • 122. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 75 0 Test (+) 15 0 Test (-) 5 20 Test (-) 5 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% Sensitivity 93.8% vs 12 5 7
  • 123. High prevalence Low prevalence n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) n=100 N2 (+) N2 (-) Test (+) 75 0 Test (+) 15 0 Test (-) 5 20 Test (-) 5 80 Prevalence 80% vs 20% Sensitivity 93.8% vs 75% 12 5 7
  • 124. 93% 100% 2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al 12 5 7
  • 125. 93% 100% Prevalence 68% 2009, Eur J Cancer, Gu et al 12 5 7
  • 126. 12 5 7
  • 127. Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN 12 5 7
  • 128. Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN “Subcentimeter LN can be biopsied, but there is a limit in sampling very small LN” Yasufuku Kazuhiro 12 5 7
  • 129. Biopsy may be difficult for small-sized LN “Subcentimeter LN can be biopsied, but there is a limit in sampling very small LN” Yasufuku Kazuhiro N3 stations are usually skipped 12 5 7
  • 130. Non-diagnostic samples vs False-negative results 12 5 7
  • 131. 12 5 7
  • 132. Nobody confirms positive EUS or EBUS 12 5 7
  • 133. Nobody confirms positive EUS or EBUS ...Any chance of false-positive results? 12 5 7
  • 134. Factors influencing EBUS results 12 5 7
  • 135. Factors influencing EBUS results General anesthesia Conscious sedation 12 5 7
  • 136. Factors influencing EBUS results General anesthesia Conscious sedation 21 gauge 22 gauge 12 5 7
  • 137. Factors influencing EBUS results General anesthesia Conscious sedation 21 gauge 22 gauge Thoracic surgeon Pulmonologist 12 5 7
  • 138. Factors influencing EBUS results General anesthesia Conscious sedation 21 gauge 22 gauge Thoracic surgeon Pulmonologist Rapid On-Site Examination (cytopathologist) 12 5 7
  • 139. Factors influencing EBUS results General anesthesia Conscious sedation 21 gauge 22 gauge Thoracic surgeon Pulmonologist Rapid On-Site Examination (cytopathologist) Thoroughness of mediastinal LND 12 5 7
  • 140. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 141. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 142. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 143. N rates Hig hF 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 144. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 145. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 146. N rates Hig hF 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 147. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 148. “Negative results from EUS or EBUS should be further confirmed by mediastinoscopy” 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 149. Conventionally the Gold Standard 12 5 7
  • 150. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 151. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 152. 2007, Chest, Detterbeck et al 12 5 7
  • 153. 12 5 7
  • 154. 4L 12 5 7
  • 155. 4L 12 5 7
  • 156. 4L 7 12 5 7
  • 157. 4L 7 12 5 7
  • 158. 4L 7 4R 12 5 7
  • 159. 4L 7 4R 12 5 7
  • 160. There are many inaccessible stations 12 5 7
  • 161. There are many inaccessible stations 12 5 7
  • 162. Video mediastinoscope Easier Safer More convenient 12 5 7
  • 163. Video mediastinoscope Easier Safer More convenient 12 5 7
  • 165. 153 patients 2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al 12 5 7
  • 166. 153 patients All patients underwent both EBUS and mediastinoscopy 2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al 12 5 7
  • 167. All patients underwent both EBUS 153 patients and mediastinoscopy EBUS Mediastinoscopy Sensitivity 81% 79% NPV 91% 90% p = .78 2011, JTCVS,Yasufuku et al 12 5 7
  • 168. 2010, JAMA, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 169. Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy Competitive? 2010, JAMA, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 170. Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy Competitive? 2010, JAMA, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 171. Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy Competitive? 2010, JAMA, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 172. Endosonography vs. Mediastinoscopy Complementary! 2010, JAMA, Annema et al 12 5 7
  • 173. Anyway, 12 5 7
  • 174. Anyway, Tissue confirmation should be routinely done? 12 5 7
  • 175. 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 176. 291 patients (1995 ~ 2001) 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 177. 291 patients (1995 ~ 2001) Clinical stage I NSCLC 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 178. 291 patients (1995 ~ 2001) Clinical stage I NSCLC N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 179. 291 patients (1995 ~ 2001) Clinical stage I NSCLC N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy 20 pts (6.9%) 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 180. 291 patients (1995 ~ 2001) Clinical stage I NSCLC N2 or N3 on mediastinoscopy 20 pts (6.9%) Routine mediastinoscopy is necessary esp. for non-BAC type ADC 2003, Ann Thorac Surg, Choi et al 12 5 7
  • 181. 12 5 7
  • 183. ADC in situ Ground glass opacity 12 5 7
  • 184. GGO-type ADC is increasing ADC in situ Ground glass opacity 12 5 7
  • 185. 2010, Respirology, Park et al 12 5 7
  • 186. 147 patients Clinical stage IA by PET/CT 12 5 7
  • 187. 147 patients Clinical stage IA by PET/CT 78 Mediastinoscopy 12 5 7
  • 188. 147 patients Clinical stage IA by PET/CT 78 Mediastinoscopy 3 75 N2 (+) N2 (-) 12 5 7
  • 189. 147 patients Clinical stage IA by PET/CT 78 69 Mediastinoscopy 3 75 144 N2 (+) N2 (-) Thoracotomy 12 5 7
  • 190. 147 patients Clinical stage IA by PET/CT 78 69 Mediastinoscopy 3 75 144 N2 (+) N2 (-) Thoracotomy 4 140 N2 (+) N2 (-) 12 5 7
  • 191. 12 5 7
  • 192. Probability of occult LN metastasis should be considered 12 5 7
  • 193. 2006, EJCTS, de Langen et al 12 5 7
  • 194. 2008, EJCTS, Al-Sarraf et al 12 5 7
  • 195. 2008, EJCTS, Al-Sarraf et al 12 5 7
  • 196. 2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al 12 5 7
  • 197. 2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al 12 5 7
  • 198. 2011, J Thorac Oncol, Kim et al 12 5 7
  • 200. Therefore, Mediastinal staging needs to be individualized 12 5 7
  • 201. 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 202. PET or PET/CT 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 203. PET or PET/CT Negative 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 204. PET or PET/CT Negative Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 205. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 206. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 207. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm Mediastinoscopy Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 208. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 209. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 210. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Positive Surgery 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 211. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 212. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Negative Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 213. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Negative Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 214. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Negative Positive Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 215. PET or PET/CT Negative Positive Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Negative Positive Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 216. PET or PET/CT Central tumor Low FDG uptake tumor Negative Positive LN size > 1.5cm PET N1 disease Tissue confirm EBUS / EUS Mediastinoscopy Negative Negative Positive Positive Surgery Multimodal treatment 2007, EJCTS, ESTS guideline 12 5 7
  • 218. Take-home message Accurate mediastinal staging is important 12 5 7
  • 219. Take-home message Accurate mediastinal staging is important Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates 12 5 7
  • 220. Take-home message Accurate mediastinal staging is important Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS 12 5 7
  • 221. Take-home message Accurate mediastinal staging is important Mediastinal staging solely based on imaging tests is insufficient due to high FP/FN rates Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS Negative results of needle techniques should be further confirmed by surgical staging 12 5 7
  • 222. Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS Negative results of needle techniques should be further confirmed by surgical staging Probability of occult LN metastasis should be considered 12 5 7
  • 223. Tissue confirmation can be done by EUS / EBUS Negative results of needle techniques should be further confirmed by surgical staging Probability of occult LN metastasis should be considered Routine tissue confirmation regardless of clinical characteristics should be re-considered 12 5 7
  • 224. 12 5 7
  • 225. Thank you 12 5 7