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 In memoir, the main “source” for information 
is usually the writer 
 In some cases, such as with David Carr and 
David Maclean—and for longer narratives— 
the unreliable narrator may talk to others 
 But in reported essays and literary journalism, 
the sources may stretch farther than those close 
to the original source (the writer)
 Interviewing sources, and research, can enhance 
and deepen our topics 
 Interviews and research provide credibility 
 Moving outside our own brains and experiences 
broadens our expertise, knowledge and ideas for 
all writing 
 This is why so many nonfiction and fiction writers 
work in both genres—because there is so much 
cross-over in the techniques of gathering 
information for a story and for the techniques of 
writing fiction and creative nonfiction 
 And also because non-fiction provides more 
opportunities to publish and get paid to write
 Believe it or not, many people who interview 
for a living are actually shy in real life 
 The more you do it, the easier it becomes 
 The interview subject is probably more nervous 
than you are 
 Interviews are useful in numerous ways: they 
garner information, they strengthen your 
ability to write and her dialogue, they create 
connection
“Journalism is kind of like dating. You have to be yourself but less. When I 
interview someone, I become smaller than him. I slouch down, and sometimes I 
get a bad neck. I look at him and I listen. Intension is important too, because 
your intentions come through. 
—Mike Sager, Esquire contributing writer 
Or at least some version of your self
 Avoid email interviews 
 Online research is helpful, but interviewing as 
many people as possible for a story will garner 
info/ideas unavailable online. 
 Phone versus in-person?
 Particularly for sensitive interviews 
 Trust that you will be honest, accurate 
 “Act like a human being.” 
 Zoe last week undertook a challenging 
interview.
 Read up on the subject or person 
 Ask the person you’ll be interviewing to send 
you any info ahead of time he or she wants you 
to know. 
 Have questions ready to go 
 Familiarize yourself with other articles on your 
topic/person
 Send an email that explains why you want the 
story and shows the subject you’re interested. 
Dear Councilor X, 
I am writing a story on the City Council’s decision 
to ban nude bicyclists. You spoke against this 
decision based on your history as a nude 
bicyclist. I’d love to hear more about this. Is 
there a convenient time this week for an 
interview?
 A phone interview deprives you of “color”— 
describe the person, what they look like, what 
they wear, the environment of their home or 
office. Or, if you’re in public, maybe the 
environment interacts with the subject.
Beneath a big tent hastily erected on a roof behind the Staples Center in 
downtown Los Angeles, a collection of modern gladiators gathers behind a 
portable stage, twenty-two broken noses and sets of cauliflower ears 
standing in a reverent semicircle around a familiar pug — the former bar 
bouncer, hotel bellhop, and personal fitness trainer who has, over the past 
decade, helped to turn the Ultimate Fighting Championship into a $1 
billion business with fans across the globe. 
—Meet Dana White, the King of Mixed Martial Arts, Esquire Magazine, by 
Mike Sager 
“An assistant greets me and asks me to wait in the living room, which is 
suspended seemingly right over the crashing waves of the Pacific…after a 
few minutes, the assistant leads me up to the star’s bedroom. According ot 
Lawrence-Bullard, the bed originally belonged to Natacha Rambova, who 
was the wife of Rudolph Valentino. 
—Cher profile by Krista Smith, Vanity Fair, December 2010
 The best way to have 
a spontaneous 
conversation is to 
have your questions 
prepared. 
 Crowd-source!
 Open-ended 
questions are: 
 Flexible 
 Exploratory 
 Can reveal more than 
the source realizes 
 Closed-Ended 
questions are: 
 Designed to pull 
specific information 
 Can be yes or no 
 May often be 
information you really 
need!
 How old are you? 
 Do you plan to vote in 
November? 
 How do you feel 
about turning 18 in 
today’s economy? 
 What considerations 
are you weighing in 
the November 
election?
 Confusing questions can create confusing 
answers. 
 Make sure you understand what the person is 
saying. Ask them to repeat if you don’t. 
 Type up your notes right away while they are 
fresh in your mind. Look for great quotes, a 
possible lead, info you need to follow up on.
 Always take notes even if you’re recording— 
don’t rely solely on a recording 
 Have multiple writing utensils 
 Look up when you’re writing 
 Learn to write in a short-hand you can 
decipher 
 Don’t be afraid to ask people to slow down 
 Make them spell everything!
 If you are listening when you interview, you 
may hear things you need clarified. Ask those 
questions. Make the source explain. 
 Ask for additional sources to talk to, additional 
information. This will lead to stronger stories 
and additional stories.
 Again, if you have what you need, ask if the 
subject has anything to add. Say, “thank you 
for your time.” 
 Don’t let the source talk at you 
 Have a conversation: listen and ask questions 
based on what you want to know.
 Use memorable quotes for “direct quotation.” 
 Don’t quote factual/expository information. “I 
am 18,” is not an interesting quote. As with 
fiction, dialogue should convey emotion, 
should mean more than it says. 
 Put punctuation within the quote marks. 
 Correct grammar? Case by case.
 As you’ll see in “Devil’s Bait” and “The Fourth 
State of Matter,” both stories make use of other 
forms of sourcing beyond people sourcing: 
 Newspaper articles 
 Historical documents 
 Public records 
 The internet! 
 Immersion reporting
 Sourcing for information should be accessible, 
but not intrusive 
 When you are writing to be read, you don’t 
want footnotes and academic citation 
 But you also don’t want information that 
appears out of nowhere and doesn’t seem 
credible
“For Paul, it started with a fishing trip. For Lenny, 
it was an addict whose knuckles were covered 
in sores. Dawn found pimples clustered 
around her swimming goggles. Kendra noticed 
ingrown hairs. Patricia was attacked by sand 
flies on a Gulf Coast beach. Sometimes the 
sickness starts as blisters, or lesions, or itching, 
or simply a terrible fog settling over the mind, 
over the world.” 
(The Devil’s Bait, Leslie Jamison)
 First, you decide what you want to write about 
 Then, you see if there are obvious people to 
talk with connected to that topic 
 Research what’s been written already 
 You will be surprised and amazed how many 
people will make themselves available to you 
for information and for an interview
 Both of these pieces are a cross between literary 
journalism & personal reportage 
 They have reporting in them—journalism—but the 
authors are also in the stories, have a connection to 
the story 
 As with fiction, you can choose the POV for your 
reported piece; perhaps it’s “I,” perhaps it’s third 
person 
 As with fiction, that decision should be made not 
for convenience, but based on how close you think 
the narrator should be to the narrative for the 
piece’s effectiveness.

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Interviewingandsourcing

  • 2.  In memoir, the main “source” for information is usually the writer  In some cases, such as with David Carr and David Maclean—and for longer narratives— the unreliable narrator may talk to others  But in reported essays and literary journalism, the sources may stretch farther than those close to the original source (the writer)
  • 3.  Interviewing sources, and research, can enhance and deepen our topics  Interviews and research provide credibility  Moving outside our own brains and experiences broadens our expertise, knowledge and ideas for all writing  This is why so many nonfiction and fiction writers work in both genres—because there is so much cross-over in the techniques of gathering information for a story and for the techniques of writing fiction and creative nonfiction  And also because non-fiction provides more opportunities to publish and get paid to write
  • 4.  Believe it or not, many people who interview for a living are actually shy in real life  The more you do it, the easier it becomes  The interview subject is probably more nervous than you are  Interviews are useful in numerous ways: they garner information, they strengthen your ability to write and her dialogue, they create connection
  • 5. “Journalism is kind of like dating. You have to be yourself but less. When I interview someone, I become smaller than him. I slouch down, and sometimes I get a bad neck. I look at him and I listen. Intension is important too, because your intentions come through. —Mike Sager, Esquire contributing writer Or at least some version of your self
  • 6.  Avoid email interviews  Online research is helpful, but interviewing as many people as possible for a story will garner info/ideas unavailable online.  Phone versus in-person?
  • 7.  Particularly for sensitive interviews  Trust that you will be honest, accurate  “Act like a human being.”  Zoe last week undertook a challenging interview.
  • 8.  Read up on the subject or person  Ask the person you’ll be interviewing to send you any info ahead of time he or she wants you to know.  Have questions ready to go  Familiarize yourself with other articles on your topic/person
  • 9.  Send an email that explains why you want the story and shows the subject you’re interested. Dear Councilor X, I am writing a story on the City Council’s decision to ban nude bicyclists. You spoke against this decision based on your history as a nude bicyclist. I’d love to hear more about this. Is there a convenient time this week for an interview?
  • 10.  A phone interview deprives you of “color”— describe the person, what they look like, what they wear, the environment of their home or office. Or, if you’re in public, maybe the environment interacts with the subject.
  • 11. Beneath a big tent hastily erected on a roof behind the Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles, a collection of modern gladiators gathers behind a portable stage, twenty-two broken noses and sets of cauliflower ears standing in a reverent semicircle around a familiar pug — the former bar bouncer, hotel bellhop, and personal fitness trainer who has, over the past decade, helped to turn the Ultimate Fighting Championship into a $1 billion business with fans across the globe. —Meet Dana White, the King of Mixed Martial Arts, Esquire Magazine, by Mike Sager “An assistant greets me and asks me to wait in the living room, which is suspended seemingly right over the crashing waves of the Pacific…after a few minutes, the assistant leads me up to the star’s bedroom. According ot Lawrence-Bullard, the bed originally belonged to Natacha Rambova, who was the wife of Rudolph Valentino. —Cher profile by Krista Smith, Vanity Fair, December 2010
  • 12.  The best way to have a spontaneous conversation is to have your questions prepared.  Crowd-source!
  • 13.  Open-ended questions are:  Flexible  Exploratory  Can reveal more than the source realizes  Closed-Ended questions are:  Designed to pull specific information  Can be yes or no  May often be information you really need!
  • 14.  How old are you?  Do you plan to vote in November?  How do you feel about turning 18 in today’s economy?  What considerations are you weighing in the November election?
  • 15.  Confusing questions can create confusing answers.  Make sure you understand what the person is saying. Ask them to repeat if you don’t.  Type up your notes right away while they are fresh in your mind. Look for great quotes, a possible lead, info you need to follow up on.
  • 16.  Always take notes even if you’re recording— don’t rely solely on a recording  Have multiple writing utensils  Look up when you’re writing  Learn to write in a short-hand you can decipher  Don’t be afraid to ask people to slow down  Make them spell everything!
  • 17.  If you are listening when you interview, you may hear things you need clarified. Ask those questions. Make the source explain.  Ask for additional sources to talk to, additional information. This will lead to stronger stories and additional stories.
  • 18.  Again, if you have what you need, ask if the subject has anything to add. Say, “thank you for your time.”  Don’t let the source talk at you  Have a conversation: listen and ask questions based on what you want to know.
  • 19.  Use memorable quotes for “direct quotation.”  Don’t quote factual/expository information. “I am 18,” is not an interesting quote. As with fiction, dialogue should convey emotion, should mean more than it says.  Put punctuation within the quote marks.  Correct grammar? Case by case.
  • 20.  As you’ll see in “Devil’s Bait” and “The Fourth State of Matter,” both stories make use of other forms of sourcing beyond people sourcing:  Newspaper articles  Historical documents  Public records  The internet!  Immersion reporting
  • 21.  Sourcing for information should be accessible, but not intrusive  When you are writing to be read, you don’t want footnotes and academic citation  But you also don’t want information that appears out of nowhere and doesn’t seem credible
  • 22. “For Paul, it started with a fishing trip. For Lenny, it was an addict whose knuckles were covered in sores. Dawn found pimples clustered around her swimming goggles. Kendra noticed ingrown hairs. Patricia was attacked by sand flies on a Gulf Coast beach. Sometimes the sickness starts as blisters, or lesions, or itching, or simply a terrible fog settling over the mind, over the world.” (The Devil’s Bait, Leslie Jamison)
  • 23.  First, you decide what you want to write about  Then, you see if there are obvious people to talk with connected to that topic  Research what’s been written already  You will be surprised and amazed how many people will make themselves available to you for information and for an interview
  • 24.  Both of these pieces are a cross between literary journalism & personal reportage  They have reporting in them—journalism—but the authors are also in the stories, have a connection to the story  As with fiction, you can choose the POV for your reported piece; perhaps it’s “I,” perhaps it’s third person  As with fiction, that decision should be made not for convenience, but based on how close you think the narrator should be to the narrative for the piece’s effectiveness.

Editor's Notes

  1. Phone is helpful because you can type while on the phone; but face to face can help humanize
  2. Caveats. “I’m taping this interview so that I can review my notes later.” “Can I call or email with follow-up questions?” Are there any other sources you think I should talk to? Can you spell… quote: ESPN reporter Wright Thompson
  3. Not gratuitous flattery. But imagine yourself on the end. Hi, I have to write a story about you. When can we talk? Hi, I’ve been reading about your latest work in astrophysics, and I’d like to write a story for the IAIA Chronicle. Would you have time for an interview. Please let me know some times that will be convenient. I’d love to meet in person, but if it’s more convenient, we can also speak via the phone. Remember, you can tape over the phone. Try to establish person contact. Remember, if you use email at all, it’s permanent. If you accidentally mis-use a quote, it’s there in black and white. If you send your questions by email and they have grammar errors, that’s there too. So make sure your emails represent what you would want the public to see.
  4. Asking questions; why: no dead air, you can keep asking questions, you can pay better attention. Ask other people what they would like to know.
  5. How you phrase a question matters. It’s the difference between the kind of answer you’ll get. The old joke is: “How long have you been beating your wife?” Implies a bias on the part of the reporter, and can put the source on edge. Sometimes reporters don’t ask questions at all; they make a statement. You passed a law banning nude bicyclists. That must be exciting.” Don’t put the answer into your question.
  6. Which are closed/which are open?
  7. Interviewed Helen Cauldicott, Australian anti-nuke activist. One the phone because she was travelling, very strong accent, bad connection. I was in a bad way. I could barely understand a word she said. I muddled through. Taped the interview. Had to listen to the interview about 20 times to transcribe it.
  8. John Smith example.
  9. This quote doesn’t make sense to me. What did he mean? I don’t know, that’s what he said. You’re not a human tape recorder.
  10. I would always say, “well, I’m going to have to cut like crazy as it is, so we should probably end now.”