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Informational	
  Interview	
  
Tuan	
  Nguyenduy,	
  MD	
  
Cardiothoracic	
  Surgeon	
  
Spartanburg	
  Regional	
  Healthcare	
  System	
  
	
  
• How	
  did	
  you	
  get	
  started	
  in	
  this	
  field?	
  
o I	
  enjoy	
  helping	
  people	
  and	
  I	
  wanted	
  something	
  challenging.	
  I	
  was	
  
unsure	
  which	
  field	
  of	
  medicine	
  to	
  go	
  into.	
  It	
  wasn’t	
  until	
  my	
  third	
  year	
  
of	
  medical	
  school	
  that	
  I	
  started	
  going	
  through	
  different	
  rotations.	
  At	
  
first,	
  I	
  liked	
  pediatrics	
  and	
  I	
  liked	
  surgery.	
  I	
  thought	
  I	
  would	
  become	
  a	
  
pediatric	
  surgeon.	
  Then	
  I	
  had	
  a	
  chance	
  to	
  watch	
  an	
  open-­‐heart	
  
surgery	
  and	
  I	
  was	
  very	
  interested.	
  I	
  went	
  through	
  general	
  surgery	
  first	
  
and	
  then	
  got	
  into	
  the	
  cardiac	
  rotation.	
  
	
  
• What	
  training	
  or	
  education	
  is	
  required	
  for	
  this	
  type	
  of	
  work?	
  
o It	
  has	
  changed	
  since	
  I	
  finished	
  my	
  training,	
  but	
  the	
  whole	
  thing	
  is	
  
generally	
  the	
  same	
  starting	
  with	
  medical	
  school.	
  I	
  then	
  had	
  5	
  years	
  of	
  
general	
  surgery	
  and	
  2	
  years	
  of	
  specialized	
  training	
  in	
  cardiothoracic	
  
surgery.	
  I	
  also	
  did	
  2	
  years	
  of	
  research	
  during	
  my	
  general	
  surgery	
  
residency.	
  Now	
  you	
  can	
  do	
  3	
  years	
  of	
  general	
  and	
  3-­‐4	
  years	
  of	
  cardio	
  
or	
  1-­‐2	
  years	
  of	
  general	
  and	
  4-­‐5	
  years	
  of	
  cardio.	
  
	
  
• What	
  personal	
  qualities	
  or	
  abilities	
  are	
  important	
  to	
  being	
  successful?	
  
o It	
  is	
  important	
  to	
  be	
  a	
  hard	
  worker.	
  You	
  need	
  to	
  be	
  good	
  at	
  what	
  you	
  
do.	
  Another	
  critical	
  skill	
  is	
  dexterity	
  and	
  to	
  have	
  good	
  hand	
  eye	
  
coordination,	
  especially	
  with	
  the	
  new	
  technology	
  and	
  instruments	
  
that	
  require	
  working	
  through	
  videos.	
  You	
  also	
  have	
  to	
  use	
  critical	
  
thinking	
  skills	
  in	
  evaluations.	
  
	
  
• How	
  did	
  you	
  get	
  this	
  position?	
  What	
  are	
  common	
  career	
  paths?	
  
o I	
  started	
  by	
  doing	
  many	
  interviews.	
  I	
  did	
  my	
  residency	
  in	
  a	
  big	
  city,	
  so	
  
I	
  had	
  opportunities	
  to	
  work	
  in	
  cities	
  like	
  Chicago,	
  Philadelphia,	
  and	
  
Boston.	
  I	
  started	
  off	
  in	
  my	
  own	
  practice,	
  but	
  later	
  decided	
  to	
  move	
  to	
  
the	
  hospital.	
  
o Other	
  career	
  paths	
  of	
  surgery	
  include	
  general	
  surgery,	
  pediatrics,	
  
orthopedics,	
  neurosurgery,	
  and	
  trauma.	
  We	
  also	
  work	
  with	
  many	
  
internal	
  medicine	
  physicians.	
  
	
  
• What	
  areas	
  of	
  knowledge	
  are	
  most	
  important	
  for	
  advancement	
  in	
  this	
  field?	
  	
  
o A	
  strong	
  medical	
  knowledge	
  is	
  important.	
  It	
  is	
  important	
  to	
  know	
  the	
  
human	
  anatomy,	
  especially	
  the	
  chest	
  area	
  with	
  the	
  heart	
  and	
  lungs.	
  A	
  
surgeon	
  is	
  a	
  medical	
  doctor	
  that	
  knows	
  how	
  to	
  operate.	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  
• What	
  degree?	
  Certification?	
  
o You	
  first	
  get	
  your	
  M.D.	
  or	
  D.O.	
  Then,	
  you	
  do	
  your	
  postgraduate	
  
training.	
  Next,	
  you	
  do	
  your	
  fellowship.	
  After,	
  you	
  must	
  get	
  certified	
  in	
  
general	
  surgery	
  and	
  then	
  get	
  certified	
  in	
  cardiothoracic	
  surgery.	
  In	
  
order	
  to	
  become	
  certified,	
  you	
  must	
  pass	
  the	
  board	
  exams.	
  This	
  
consists	
  of	
  a	
  multiple-­‐choice	
  section	
  and	
  then	
  an	
  oral	
  examination.	
  
	
  
• If	
  you	
  were	
  starting	
  out	
  again,	
  would	
  you	
  do	
  anything	
  differently?	
  
o No,	
  not	
  really.	
  The	
  only	
  thing	
  I	
  might	
  have	
  done	
  was	
  to	
  look	
  more	
  into	
  
ophthalmology	
  because	
  I	
  now	
  see	
  an	
  interest	
  in	
  it	
  that	
  I	
  didn’t	
  earlier	
  
in	
  medical	
  school.	
  
	
  
• What	
  do	
  you	
  do	
  on	
  a	
  typical	
  day	
  in	
  this	
  position?	
  
o I	
  usually	
  go	
  in	
  at	
  7:30-­‐8:00	
  and	
  leave	
  around	
  6:00	
  or	
  7:00.	
  I	
  see	
  
patients	
  in	
  the	
  office	
  once	
  a	
  week	
  and	
  operate	
  the	
  other	
  4	
  days	
  of	
  the	
  
week.	
  I’m	
  in	
  the	
  OR	
  for	
  the	
  majority	
  of	
  the	
  day	
  and	
  then	
  make	
  rounds	
  
and	
  check	
  up	
  on	
  patients	
  in	
  post-­‐op	
  after.	
  
	
  
• What	
  part	
  of	
  this	
  job	
  do	
  you	
  find	
  the	
  most	
  challenging	
  or	
  satisfying?	
  
o It	
  is	
  challenging	
  when	
  we	
  run	
  into	
  unexpected	
  situations	
  and	
  I	
  have	
  to	
  
make	
  critical	
  decisions	
  based	
  on	
  my	
  experiences	
  in	
  order	
  to	
  create	
  the	
  
best	
  outcome.	
  
o The	
  satisfying	
  part	
  is	
  helping	
  patients	
  and	
  being	
  able	
  to	
  see	
  them	
  well.	
  
Surgeons	
  tend	
  to	
  be	
  impatient	
  and	
  want	
  to	
  see	
  immediate	
  results.	
  
	
  
• What	
  are	
  the	
  positive/negative	
  aspects	
  of	
  working	
  in	
  this	
  field?	
  
o Positive:	
  I	
  enjoy	
  my	
  job,	
  it	
  is	
  fun	
  and	
  I	
  get	
  to	
  help	
  people	
  at	
  the	
  same	
  
time.	
  I	
  get	
  to	
  work	
  in	
  a	
  high	
  tech	
  field	
  and	
  get	
  to	
  use	
  new	
  machines	
  
and	
  technology.	
  I	
  like	
  the	
  challenge	
  involved	
  in	
  this	
  position	
  too.	
  
o Negative:	
  Patients	
  are	
  sick	
  and	
  in	
  pain.	
  The	
  hours	
  can	
  be	
  long.	
  There	
  is	
  
also	
  a	
  risk	
  of	
  getting	
  sued.	
  
	
  
• How	
  many	
  hours	
  do	
  you	
  typically	
  work	
  each	
  week?	
  Do	
  you	
  often	
  work	
  
evenings	
  and	
  weekends?	
  Can	
  you	
  arrange	
  your	
  own	
  hours?	
  
o I	
  work	
  anywhere	
  from	
  60-­‐90	
  hours	
  a	
  week.	
  I	
  am	
  on	
  call	
  every	
  third	
  
day	
  and	
  every	
  third	
  weekend.	
  I	
  can	
  arrange	
  my	
  hours,	
  but	
  we	
  are	
  
usually	
  busy.	
  I	
  do	
  have	
  vacation	
  days	
  that	
  are	
  flexible	
  and	
  fair	
  between	
  
my	
  partners	
  and	
  I.	
  
	
  
• What	
  is	
  a	
  typical	
  starting	
  salary?	
  Average	
  salary?	
  Other	
  benefits?	
  
o The	
  typical	
  starting	
  salary	
  is	
  about	
  $300,000-­‐350,000.	
  An	
  average	
  
salary	
  is	
  about	
  $400,000-­‐450,000.	
  Some	
  even	
  make	
  more	
  depending	
  
on	
  where	
  you	
  work.	
  Some	
  big	
  names	
  from	
  Stanford	
  make	
  around	
  
$800,000-­‐1,000,000.	
  	
  
	
  
• What	
  are	
  some	
  of	
  the	
  rewards	
  of	
  your	
  occupation?	
  
o I	
  get	
  to	
  treat	
  and	
  care	
  for	
  patients	
  to	
  help	
  them	
  get	
  well.	
  By	
  working	
  
for	
  the	
  hospital,	
  they	
  pay	
  for	
  my	
  medical	
  insurance	
  and	
  malpractice.	
  
When	
  I	
  had	
  my	
  private	
  practice,	
  I	
  had	
  to	
  get	
  my	
  own	
  insurance.	
  
	
  
• What	
  are	
  the	
  geographical	
  restrictions	
  in	
  this	
  field?	
  How	
  much	
  are	
  you	
  
required	
  to	
  travel?	
  
o It	
  is	
  not	
  very	
  restricted.	
  Cardio	
  can	
  set	
  up	
  in	
  any	
  location	
  if	
  you	
  get	
  a	
  
referral.	
  The	
  hospital	
  must	
  have	
  the	
  proper	
  equipment	
  that	
  can	
  
handle	
  a	
  heart	
  program.	
  
o I	
  don’t	
  travel	
  much.	
  I	
  only	
  travel	
  for	
  annual	
  meetings	
  for	
  societies	
  and	
  
associations	
  that	
  I	
  am	
  involved	
  in.	
  
	
  
• Would	
  you	
  rather	
  work	
  for	
  a	
  smaller	
  or	
  a	
  larger	
  company?	
  Why?	
  
o Ideally,	
  I	
  would	
  rather	
  work	
  for	
  a	
  smaller,	
  private	
  company	
  with	
  3-­‐4	
  
doctors.	
  However,	
  in	
  private	
  practice	
  there	
  are	
  uninsured	
  patients	
  
that	
  we	
  care	
  for	
  and	
  do	
  not	
  get	
  paid	
  accordingly.	
  In	
  hospitals,	
  we	
  don’t	
  
have	
  to	
  worry	
  about	
  that	
  and	
  are	
  paid	
  a	
  base	
  salary.	
  We	
  also	
  don’t	
  
have	
  to	
  worry	
  about	
  hiring	
  and	
  taking	
  care	
  of	
  the	
  staff.	
  
	
  
• Is	
  there	
  a	
  demand	
  for	
  people	
  in	
  this	
  occupation?	
  
o Yes	
  there	
  is	
  a	
  demand,	
  especially	
  in	
  this	
  field	
  because	
  there	
  are	
  not	
  as	
  
many	
  going	
  into	
  cardio	
  because	
  reimbursement	
  is	
  down.	
  
	
  
• What	
  special	
  advice	
  would	
  you	
  give	
  a	
  person	
  entering	
  in	
  this	
  field?	
  
o Work	
  hard.	
  It	
  is	
  very	
  demanding	
  work.	
  You	
  have	
  to	
  like	
  it	
  or	
  you	
  wont	
  
be	
  able	
  to	
  do	
  a	
  good	
  job.	
  Don’t	
  do	
  it	
  for	
  the	
  money.	
  	
  
	
  
• What,	
  if	
  anything,	
  do	
  you	
  wish	
  you	
  had	
  known	
  before	
  you	
  entered	
  this	
  
occupation?	
  
o I	
  did	
  not	
  know	
  how	
  much	
  time	
  and	
  hours	
  were	
  required	
  for	
  this	
  job.	
  It	
  
is	
  time	
  consuming,	
  but	
  it	
  is	
  very	
  rewarding	
  to	
  help	
  people	
  and	
  you	
  
make	
  a	
  decent	
  living.	
  I	
  have	
  no	
  regrets.	
  

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Informational interview

  • 1. Informational  Interview   Tuan  Nguyenduy,  MD   Cardiothoracic  Surgeon   Spartanburg  Regional  Healthcare  System     • How  did  you  get  started  in  this  field?   o I  enjoy  helping  people  and  I  wanted  something  challenging.  I  was   unsure  which  field  of  medicine  to  go  into.  It  wasn’t  until  my  third  year   of  medical  school  that  I  started  going  through  different  rotations.  At   first,  I  liked  pediatrics  and  I  liked  surgery.  I  thought  I  would  become  a   pediatric  surgeon.  Then  I  had  a  chance  to  watch  an  open-­‐heart   surgery  and  I  was  very  interested.  I  went  through  general  surgery  first   and  then  got  into  the  cardiac  rotation.     • What  training  or  education  is  required  for  this  type  of  work?   o It  has  changed  since  I  finished  my  training,  but  the  whole  thing  is   generally  the  same  starting  with  medical  school.  I  then  had  5  years  of   general  surgery  and  2  years  of  specialized  training  in  cardiothoracic   surgery.  I  also  did  2  years  of  research  during  my  general  surgery   residency.  Now  you  can  do  3  years  of  general  and  3-­‐4  years  of  cardio   or  1-­‐2  years  of  general  and  4-­‐5  years  of  cardio.     • What  personal  qualities  or  abilities  are  important  to  being  successful?   o It  is  important  to  be  a  hard  worker.  You  need  to  be  good  at  what  you   do.  Another  critical  skill  is  dexterity  and  to  have  good  hand  eye   coordination,  especially  with  the  new  technology  and  instruments   that  require  working  through  videos.  You  also  have  to  use  critical   thinking  skills  in  evaluations.     • How  did  you  get  this  position?  What  are  common  career  paths?   o I  started  by  doing  many  interviews.  I  did  my  residency  in  a  big  city,  so   I  had  opportunities  to  work  in  cities  like  Chicago,  Philadelphia,  and   Boston.  I  started  off  in  my  own  practice,  but  later  decided  to  move  to   the  hospital.   o Other  career  paths  of  surgery  include  general  surgery,  pediatrics,   orthopedics,  neurosurgery,  and  trauma.  We  also  work  with  many   internal  medicine  physicians.     • What  areas  of  knowledge  are  most  important  for  advancement  in  this  field?     o A  strong  medical  knowledge  is  important.  It  is  important  to  know  the   human  anatomy,  especially  the  chest  area  with  the  heart  and  lungs.  A   surgeon  is  a  medical  doctor  that  knows  how  to  operate.        
  • 2. • What  degree?  Certification?   o You  first  get  your  M.D.  or  D.O.  Then,  you  do  your  postgraduate   training.  Next,  you  do  your  fellowship.  After,  you  must  get  certified  in   general  surgery  and  then  get  certified  in  cardiothoracic  surgery.  In   order  to  become  certified,  you  must  pass  the  board  exams.  This   consists  of  a  multiple-­‐choice  section  and  then  an  oral  examination.     • If  you  were  starting  out  again,  would  you  do  anything  differently?   o No,  not  really.  The  only  thing  I  might  have  done  was  to  look  more  into   ophthalmology  because  I  now  see  an  interest  in  it  that  I  didn’t  earlier   in  medical  school.     • What  do  you  do  on  a  typical  day  in  this  position?   o I  usually  go  in  at  7:30-­‐8:00  and  leave  around  6:00  or  7:00.  I  see   patients  in  the  office  once  a  week  and  operate  the  other  4  days  of  the   week.  I’m  in  the  OR  for  the  majority  of  the  day  and  then  make  rounds   and  check  up  on  patients  in  post-­‐op  after.     • What  part  of  this  job  do  you  find  the  most  challenging  or  satisfying?   o It  is  challenging  when  we  run  into  unexpected  situations  and  I  have  to   make  critical  decisions  based  on  my  experiences  in  order  to  create  the   best  outcome.   o The  satisfying  part  is  helping  patients  and  being  able  to  see  them  well.   Surgeons  tend  to  be  impatient  and  want  to  see  immediate  results.     • What  are  the  positive/negative  aspects  of  working  in  this  field?   o Positive:  I  enjoy  my  job,  it  is  fun  and  I  get  to  help  people  at  the  same   time.  I  get  to  work  in  a  high  tech  field  and  get  to  use  new  machines   and  technology.  I  like  the  challenge  involved  in  this  position  too.   o Negative:  Patients  are  sick  and  in  pain.  The  hours  can  be  long.  There  is   also  a  risk  of  getting  sued.     • How  many  hours  do  you  typically  work  each  week?  Do  you  often  work   evenings  and  weekends?  Can  you  arrange  your  own  hours?   o I  work  anywhere  from  60-­‐90  hours  a  week.  I  am  on  call  every  third   day  and  every  third  weekend.  I  can  arrange  my  hours,  but  we  are   usually  busy.  I  do  have  vacation  days  that  are  flexible  and  fair  between   my  partners  and  I.     • What  is  a  typical  starting  salary?  Average  salary?  Other  benefits?   o The  typical  starting  salary  is  about  $300,000-­‐350,000.  An  average   salary  is  about  $400,000-­‐450,000.  Some  even  make  more  depending   on  where  you  work.  Some  big  names  from  Stanford  make  around   $800,000-­‐1,000,000.      
  • 3. • What  are  some  of  the  rewards  of  your  occupation?   o I  get  to  treat  and  care  for  patients  to  help  them  get  well.  By  working   for  the  hospital,  they  pay  for  my  medical  insurance  and  malpractice.   When  I  had  my  private  practice,  I  had  to  get  my  own  insurance.     • What  are  the  geographical  restrictions  in  this  field?  How  much  are  you   required  to  travel?   o It  is  not  very  restricted.  Cardio  can  set  up  in  any  location  if  you  get  a   referral.  The  hospital  must  have  the  proper  equipment  that  can   handle  a  heart  program.   o I  don’t  travel  much.  I  only  travel  for  annual  meetings  for  societies  and   associations  that  I  am  involved  in.     • Would  you  rather  work  for  a  smaller  or  a  larger  company?  Why?   o Ideally,  I  would  rather  work  for  a  smaller,  private  company  with  3-­‐4   doctors.  However,  in  private  practice  there  are  uninsured  patients   that  we  care  for  and  do  not  get  paid  accordingly.  In  hospitals,  we  don’t   have  to  worry  about  that  and  are  paid  a  base  salary.  We  also  don’t   have  to  worry  about  hiring  and  taking  care  of  the  staff.     • Is  there  a  demand  for  people  in  this  occupation?   o Yes  there  is  a  demand,  especially  in  this  field  because  there  are  not  as   many  going  into  cardio  because  reimbursement  is  down.     • What  special  advice  would  you  give  a  person  entering  in  this  field?   o Work  hard.  It  is  very  demanding  work.  You  have  to  like  it  or  you  wont   be  able  to  do  a  good  job.  Don’t  do  it  for  the  money.       • What,  if  anything,  do  you  wish  you  had  known  before  you  entered  this   occupation?   o I  did  not  know  how  much  time  and  hours  were  required  for  this  job.  It   is  time  consuming,  but  it  is  very  rewarding  to  help  people  and  you   make  a  decent  living.  I  have  no  regrets.