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Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 1
Investing in a low-return world
Elroy Dimson, London Business School
(Joint work with Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton)
Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 2
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The high-return world (we grew up in)
Past performance conditions our thinking and aspirations
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Falling yields generated a golden age for bonds
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To extrapolate the last 30 years’ bond returns would be fantasy
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300 years of UK bond yields. What is “normal”?
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The high bond returns since 1980 were not “normal”
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Real yields: The race to zero and beyond
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Prospects for real asset returns
 Long-term index-linked bonds
– zero or marginally negative
 Long-term conventional bonds
– marginally positive
 Bills/cash (long-run, rolling)
– marginally negative
 Equities
– bills + equity premium vs bills
But do equity returns vary with the real interest rate?
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Equities next 5 years % p.a. Bonds next 5 years % p.a.
Real asset returns versus real interest rates
Real interest rates impact real equity returns
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Likely future returns
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We are indeed living in a low-return world
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Optimism and stress
Unrealistic return projections
 asset managers’ targets
 pension plans, especially in US
 retail product projections
 automatic enrolment pensions
Stresses from low returns
 DB pension plan deficits
 unfunded pension plans
 DC contribution rates
 saving rates generally
 charity/endowment spending rules
 pressure on management fees
Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 10
The low return world
 Currently, investors’ prime concern
 Low yields have been obvious for some time
– less obvious returns will be lower on all assets
 Some investors in denial
– expect rapid return to “normal”
– but period since 1980 not “normal” for bonds
– second ½ of 20th century not “normal” for stocks
– also, be careful what you wish for ...
 Our projections: long-run and fallible, but realistic
 Optimism misleads, and masks need for remedial action
The Yearbook is downloadable from www.tinyurl.com/CSgiry2013
Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 11
Concluding remarks
 We are in a low return world
 Investing has become more challenging
 Need to search for rewards that go
beyond just the equity premium
 Need to control risks, and to diversify
across assets, markets, and premia
The Sourcebook is available via www.tinyurl.com/DMSsourcebook

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Investing in a low return world

  • 1. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 1 Investing in a low-return world Elroy Dimson, London Business School (Joint work with Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton)
  • 2. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 2 0 2 4 6 8 US Jap UK Eur Wld US Jap UK Eur Wld Since 1950 Since 1980Equities Bonds Annualizedreal returns on equities and bonds (%) Baby boomers Theirchildren The high-return world (we grew up in) Past performance conditions our thinking and aspirations 0 2 4 6 8 US Jap UK Eur Wld US Jap UK Eur Wld Since 1950 Since 1980Equities Bonds Annualizedreal returns on equities and bonds (%) Baby boomers Theirchildren 0 2 4 6 8 US Jap UK Eur Wld US Jap UK Eur Wld Since 1950 Since 1980Equities Bonds Annualizedreal returns on equities and bonds (%) Baby boomers Theirchildren
  • 3. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 3 Falling yields generated a golden age for bonds 10.4 2.5 12.5 2.7 0 2 4 6 8 10 12 1900s 10s 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s 2000s 10s End- 2012 USA UK Averageyields on long government bonds (%) To extrapolate the last 30 years’ bond returns would be fantasy
  • 4. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 4 300 years of UK bond yields. What is “normal”? 4.5 0 5 10 15 20 Long-run average The high bond returns since 1980 were not “normal”
  • 5. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 5 Real yields: The race to zero and beyond -1 0 1 2 3 4 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 US UK Fra Ger Jap Can Swe Realyield (%) Default-free, inflation-protected bonds now yield less than zero
  • 6. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 6 Prospects for real asset returns  Long-term index-linked bonds – zero or marginally negative  Long-term conventional bonds – marginally positive  Bills/cash (long-run, rolling) – marginally negative  Equities – bills + equity premium vs bills But do equity returns vary with the real interest rate? 0.7 2.2 -2.1 0.4 3.9 -3.1 -0.6 3.3 -0.7 -4 -2 0 2 1900–1980 1981–2008 2009–2012 USA UK All Yearbook Averageannual real interestrate(%)
  • 7. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 7 Equities next 5 years % p.a. Bonds next 5 years % p.a. Real asset returns versus real interest rates Real interest rates impact real equity returns -1.7 3.0 3.0 3.9 4.8 7.0 8.9 11.5 -6.6 -1.9 1.7 3.3 5.0 7.6 -11 -2.2 0.1 1.5 2.9 4.8 9.4 -15 -10 -5 0 5 10 Low 5% Next 15% Next 15% Next 15% Next 15% Next 15% Next 15% Top 5% Real interest rate boundary % Percentiles of real interest rates across 2,160 country-years Real rate of return (%)
  • 8. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 8 Likely future returns 0 2 4 6 World since 1950 World since 1980 World USA Japan UK Europe Emerging markets Historical high returns Prospective lower returns Equities Bonds Annualizedreal returns on equities and bonds (%) We are indeed living in a low-return world
  • 9. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 9 Optimism and stress Unrealistic return projections  asset managers’ targets  pension plans, especially in US  retail product projections  automatic enrolment pensions Stresses from low returns  DB pension plan deficits  unfunded pension plans  DC contribution rates  saving rates generally  charity/endowment spending rules  pressure on management fees
  • 10. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 10 The low return world  Currently, investors’ prime concern  Low yields have been obvious for some time – less obvious returns will be lower on all assets  Some investors in denial – expect rapid return to “normal” – but period since 1980 not “normal” for bonds – second ½ of 20th century not “normal” for stocks – also, be careful what you wish for ...  Our projections: long-run and fallible, but realistic  Optimism misleads, and masks need for remedial action The Yearbook is downloadable from www.tinyurl.com/CSgiry2013
  • 11. Copyright © 2013 Elroy Dimson, Paul Marsh and Mike Staunton, London Business School LBS Asset Management Conference, Friday 19 April 2013 Slide 11 Concluding remarks  We are in a low return world  Investing has become more challenging  Need to search for rewards that go beyond just the equity premium  Need to control risks, and to diversify across assets, markets, and premia The Sourcebook is available via www.tinyurl.com/DMSsourcebook