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Want to get in touch? I’m on Twitter @ mrrioki.
Or email howdy@magicspoon.net.
To start, let’s have the
                                                                                                panelists give a short
                                                                                                position piece on trust
                                     I’m pleased to be                                          and how it relates to
                Thanks for coming.   moderating on a topic near                                 their work...
                                     and dear to my heart as a
                                     systems designer at IDEO.




                                                                   The cars                     With zimride the question
                                                                   with pink                    was how can you get two
                                         Hi. I’m     The CEO       moustaches!                  complete strangers to
                                         Logan.      at zimride                                 establish trust online AND
                                                     and lyft.                                  get comfortable enough
                                                                                                to get in the car with each
                                                                                                other???




Everyone remembers...
                                                                                                 We’ve learned a ton
                                                                  It’s a very personal space.    transitioning from
                                                                                                 zimride to lyft.

                                                                                   And we’re               Hey, speaking
                                                                                   trying to               of transitions...
                                                                                   make that
                                                                                   possible.




                                                                                                                               2
With lyft there’s no time
                                                                                             to vet and get comfortable.


                                                                                                     You hear about
                                                                                                     “mullet apps”.




                              Everything that we’re doing to
                              help users establish trust is                                                  Hi. I’m
                              happening in the background.                                                   Bastian.

                                                      In the app you’re
                                                      just seeing the tip
                                                      of the iceberg.




                                            We have to         We’re trying to convince
                                            think a lot        you to have a magical
                                            about trust.       experience by getting food
I’m German.                                                    delivered by a person
              German,                                          you’ve never met before
              but nice.                                        and know very little about.



              I’m the CEO
              at Postmates.




                                                                                                                           3
We have to convince                                                 We try to get you to
                           you to ignore this.                                                 actually give some
                                                                                               random person you
                                                                   Hi. I’m                     met on the internet
                                         In real time.             Avery.                      your car.

                                                                                  I head up
                                                                                  product at
                                                                                  Getaround.




                                                                          Trust took
                                                                          three pieces:
                                                                       1. The Platform
                                                                       2. Between Users                         Hi. I’m
                                                                       3. Screening of Bad                      Luke.
                                                                          Actors




                                Products are about people. They     Trust is something that
                                wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for    goes hand in hand with                  It’s a core
I work on the product           the people who use them.            people and with human                   aspect of
design team at facebook.                                            interactions. There’s no                the space.
                                                                    way to get around trust.




                                                                                                                          4
How do we create trust
             Hi. I’m Andrew.                  We have a brand that relies                               in our users around
                                              on a lot of trust—people                                  having very consistent
                       I’m the graphic        opening their homes to                                    experiences?
                       design lead at         strangers.
                       Airbnb.




How do we also                                                What was your most           I was inspired to start
preserve delight,                                             surprising revelation        zimride when facebook
learning, and                                                 about designing for trust?   came out with its
discovery?                                                                                 platform.
                                CHAPTER ONE
                                                                                                             It’s about putting
                                                                                                             an identity behind
                                                                                                             people.




                               You know, I was thinking
                               about cities. In a way they                                               We lost that feeling of
                               grew faster than we were                                                  trusting our neighbors.
                               able to handle.




                                                                                                                                   5
This new ID/trust
The interesting thing is                                               information layer helps
                              It’s allowing us to                      us connect and do things           On a more specific
that tech is no longer        come together.
separating us.                                                         we never would have                level—ratings.
                                                                       done before.




 When Postmates started, the                                                                                 We implemented
 customer had the ability to                                                                                 this feature and
 rate the postman (courier).                                                                                 it’s been surprising.


                           There was no way
                           for courier to rate
                           the customer.




 There’s a huge difference                                                          I’d really love   Sometimes the customer is
 between the ratings that                           This diversity of ratings is    to know the       happy—they got their
 you give a courier and the                         something we don’t fully        origin of that    service, but the driver feels
 ratings you receive.                               understand yet.                 perception        like they were treated like a
                                                                                    of trust.         driver or like a service
                                                                                                      person.




                                                                                                                                      6
In peer-to-peer (P2P)                      Ratings get thrown                     “I’m giving every car I rent a 3 star rating—they’re not
a big component is                         around a lot as a                      exceptional, they’re all just normal cars. I get in
feeling appreciated.                       thing to build trust.                  someone’s car and it’s like my friend’s car. That’s an
                                                                                  ok, good, acceptable car. It’s 3 stars.”
                                                            And I didn’t
            Being treated                                   realize how
            like a human.                                   meaningless
                                                            they were
                                                            until a guy
                                                            wrote in
                                                            and said:




                                                            1 star could       Knowing why allows us to
We get little to no           We want to get more           mean car           respond and make the trust
information from the          understanding of WHY          smells like        in our community and the          facebook nearby.
5 star rating system.         people leave bad              smoke or           people in our community
                              ratings.                      guy was 15         better as a whole.                                 Everything
                                                            minutes late.                                                         has 4 stars.
                We haven’t
                solved this
                yet, but we
                want to.




                                                                                                   Net promoter score is interesting. You
It doesn’t make sense.                      ...But maybe     If I think about people I’m           subtract out all of the things in the
                                            it does...       friends/acquaintances with,           middle and look at things rated really
How can everything                                           and I think do I really trust         highly and really poorly and you figure
have 4 stars?                                                this person, I’d tend to say          out what the net score is.
                                                             yes.


                                                                   But, maybe I haven’t
                                                                   been yet in a situation
                                                                   that really tested the
                                                                   limits of how much I
                                                                   trust them.



                                                                                                                                                 7
Mutual reviews are important
for gaining trust between our                                   Another thing is having the payment system
users.                                                          online. This ensures meaningful experiences
                                                                AND trust between users offline.
                   Accurate reviews are really
                   important to creating trust
                   in the community.




     Our most surprising
     revelation was about                                                                         One of our biggest
     authenticity.                                                                                design assets is
                                What is a                                                         photography.
                                place really
                                like???

You don’t                           How do we
know that                           make it
much about                          authentic?
it.




We pushed our
photographers                                                   It’s pretty easy to establish
to deliver not                                                  trustworthiness in person        With the remoteness of the
just beautiful          By doing this we’re                     at a glance.                     internet you have to add in
work, but also          creating really helpful                                                  lots of layers—how do you
work that was           tools that are based in                                                  add the human back in?
really accurate.        accuracy, NOT just
                        beauty.
                                                  CHAPTER TWO                 You can do this
                                                                              in milliseconds.




                                                                                                                               8
We show a really large                                                                We have that 5 star rating          The same goes for the
image of the person                                                                   system. You see the number          courier. He sees the
that does the delivery.        A picture is very                                      of deliveries that person did.      customer’s name, rating,
                               important.                                             It’s important to show a level      the number of deliveries.
                                                                                      of experience.


                          We show it crisp,
                          we show it nice;
                          it’s a very clean
                          interface.




                                                                                            When you order you            I ordered through
                                     The biggest asset we have                              expect us to have the         Postmates and the
                                     at Postmates is the inventory.                         inventory right.              restaurant had
               We’re trying          And we’re trying to understand                                                       stopped serving the
               to play this          the inventory of a whole city.                                   And being           item I ordered...
               both ways.                                                                             accurate
                                                                                                      builds trust.




Getting a call right away to         If we can’t solve something                                            Signals for trusting a human in person:
discuss other options far            then we love to put a
outweighed any dismay of             process in place that helps      Take the tech out!
the restaurant not having            work around things.
initial dish.

                                                                                   It’s hard to do,
                   It meant                        Then over time                  but actually
                   a TON.                          we replace that                 very, very
                                                   with a product.                 valuable.




                                                                                                                                                      9
Signals for trusting a human online:

                                           Online, none of that exists. We                                        And what we found was the
                                           have to resort to secondary                                            best way to trust the person
                                           ways of trusting people...                                             was to meet them.



                                        ...their facebooks, their social                                                       So we started
                                        networks, their platform engagement,                                                   a key handoff.
                                        their number of rentals/deliveries/etc.




                                                                                                                  Users were comfortable
  You’d meet the guy, hand him your key,                                          It felt a lot less like a       doing the key swap because
  he’d say ok, and you’d say bring it back.                                       company and more just           they knew the renter had
                                                                                  like friends sharing cars.      already crossed OUR
                                                                                                                  threshold of trust.


                                                                                                                               So then the
                                                                                                                               decision came
                                                                                                                               up to the
                                                                                                                               owner.




That’s actually a pretty cool
example where introducing           Looking at how we                                                  There’s a huge
a little bit of friction actually   handle tough situations                                            responsibility
helped the product.                 that come up...                                                    there.
                                                                                                                        Our site integrity
                                                    At facebook                                                         team does a lot of
                                                    scale 1% of                                                         great work.
                                                    users is still
                                                    A LOT of
                                                    people.
                                                                                                                            It’s work that
                                                                                                                            matters.



                                                                                                                                                 10
We’re lucky to have people
                                                                              that are entrepreneurial—    We hold some responsibility
What happens          How do we be mindful                                    they want to generate        in helping them do a good
if someone’s          of the line between free                                income off our site.         job and helping them learn.
being bullied?        speech and safety and
                      humanity?
                                                                                                            Helping them understand
                                                                                                            what actions they can take
                                                                                                            to help improve their own
                       These are issues we’re                                                               success.
                       still coming to terms
                       with as a society...                                                                So there’s a role of
                                                                                                           education there, too.



                                                                                                            I think that’s the only way
                                                                                                            we’ve found to maintain
Taking the tech out                                                             We had NO tech              that high bar.
was true for us.                                                                solution to find
                                                                                nice friendly people.
                      We have all these
                      processes, but the
                      most important thing                                                   So we do an
                      for our service is living                                              in person
                      up to this idea that it’s                                              interview.
                      your friend with a car.




                                       How portable is trust   Splitting trust. Platform
                                       between platforms       engagement is a metric
                                       and engagements?        for inter-user trust.


CHAPTER THREE




                                                                                                                                          11
You don’t want them
Because of collaborative                        to find a least common      People are taking their
consumption bad actors                          denominator to get in       reputations with them.
are a bit of a worry.                           and get past the trust
                                                systems.




 Is there a way to bake in an                                                                 The challenge with portability
 opportunity for people to                                                                    is similar to the problems with
 have a second chance?                                                                        a 5 star rating system.


                           So that people
                           aren’t just bad                                                                            Everybody ends
                           actors forever?                                                                            up with a 4.




    Ratings are intricate.                   These ratings are different.                                     Brand and context around
                                                                                                              a rating are extremely
There are ways to splice                                                                                      important and you risk
the data to see what a                                                                                        losing that if you merge
particular rating means.                                                                                      it into a unified score.




                                                                                                                                         12
Maybe you need something                            Most of us, again, probably
 like a credit score?                                end up with 3.5 or 4 stars…
                                                                                                                                Maybe that’s how
                Are you a good driver?                             ...somewhere                                                 life really is.
                                                                   in the middle.

                    How do you rent out
                    your apartment?


                  There’s a lot of things.




For some things I would
want a very strict, precise                                           It doesn’t mean you’re
numerical rating system.                                              going to love the food,
                                                                      but it means that it meets
                                                                      the safety threshold.
              Like what NYC is doing with
              public health and restaurant
                                                                                                                            CHAPTER FOUR
              ratings is awesome.                                                        In terms of whether I’m
                                                                                         going to love the food or
                                                                                         not I definitely don’t
                                                                                         want a numerical score.




What types of fear factors          The literature says trust
do you face that you’re             is built over lots of small,              Understanding the
trying to solve and how             repeatable actions. You                   questions and finding
did you first detect them?          make an obligation and                    a way to address each
                                    then you uphold that.                     one.                                   We launched without additional
                                                                                                                     insurance but questions kept
                                                                                                                     coming up. So we put together
                                                                        There’s a checklist:                         a million dollar per occurrence
                                                                        Are they a safe driver?                      insurance plan to cover every
                                                                        Are they a criminal?                         driver.
                                                                        Are the vehicles safe?




                                                                                                                                                       13
We had to lobby and fight
Initially, there         to get a law passed that                                     We had to build trust in us
was no trust             endorsed peer-to-peer                                        first, then in the platform,
in the platform.         car sharing.                                                 and then between users.




                                                       All messaging
                                                       threads on are      While you’re communicating,
  Research. Anticipate                                 on our site.        in that browser window you
  the needs of users.                                                      actually see that this person
  Solve for them.                                                          has a verified phone number.

                                                                                They’re connected to facebook.

                                                                           They’re connected through
                                                                           LinkedIn.




                                                     As a society we try to
                         We want to actually give    figure out what does it
                         as much information as      mean to have so much         And things that are digital
                         possible where people       content be digital?          are going to be around for
                         need it.                                                 a long time.

                                                                               They’re going to be indexed.

                                                                                     They’re going to
                                                                                     be searchable...




                                                                                                                     14
When things were more
They’ll be around                                                              analog there was privacy
forever.                   I don’t think we                                    via obscurity.
                           have that figured
                           out.
                                                                                          Analog stuff is         CHAPTER FIVE
                                                                                          hard to find.




Any insights in terms of
helping women have a              We wanted to make it
good experience on                clear lyft was a service
these sharing platforms?          that was safe for women.


                                                   What better way to do
                                                   that, in addition to all
                                                   the background
                                                   checks, than to have
                                                   women driving?




                                                   Andrew mentioned pay-         Because you do not need any cash, the person that
Women will use it as a                             ments, and this is not an     delivers your item, you know his face, you know his name,
passenger, but can also                            exciting example, but we      you see on a map when he arrives, and you don’t need to
see themselves as a driver.                        have a lot of feedback,       pay him anything. That adds a level of security.
                                                   especially from women.




                                                                                                                                             15
We wanted to make the                                                                     We make sure the users are not bad actors.
 product safe for everyone.

                                                                                           Whether you’re a man or a woman
                       It’s the iceberg effect again—you                                   when you go to this person’s house
                       see the product that is above the                                   you know that the car will be there.
                       water and you don’t see what’s
                       going on behind the scenes.
                                                                                           And you know that this person will
                      But it’s important.                                                  be friendly.




 There’s no margin                               With our Neighborhoods
 for error here.                                 product accuracy was
                                                 paramount.

                When you’re doing a                           Women solo travelers
                physical transaction with                     want to understand what
                tech it HAS to be safe.                       a neighborhood’s like.




We highlight the accuracy
of places so that people        We are now officially
can see up front whether        out of time.
they’d feel comfortable
in that place.                                  Good job to
                                                the panel.

                                                                   Want to get in touch?
                                                                                                     I’m on Twitter @ mrrioki. Or
                                            Thank you all                                            email howdy@magicspoon.net.
                                            for coming out.




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Just Trust Me: How to Design Trustworthy Products

  • 1. Illustrations by Jeremy Sypniewski Want to get in touch? I’m on Twitter @ mrrioki. Or email howdy@magicspoon.net.
  • 2. To start, let’s have the panelists give a short position piece on trust I’m pleased to be and how it relates to Thanks for coming. moderating on a topic near their work... and dear to my heart as a systems designer at IDEO. The cars With zimride the question with pink was how can you get two Hi. I’m The CEO moustaches! complete strangers to Logan. at zimride establish trust online AND and lyft. get comfortable enough to get in the car with each other??? Everyone remembers... We’ve learned a ton It’s a very personal space. transitioning from zimride to lyft. And we’re Hey, speaking trying to of transitions... make that possible. 2
  • 3. With lyft there’s no time to vet and get comfortable. You hear about “mullet apps”. Everything that we’re doing to help users establish trust is Hi. I’m happening in the background. Bastian. In the app you’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg. We have to We’re trying to convince think a lot you to have a magical about trust. experience by getting food I’m German. delivered by a person German, you’ve never met before but nice. and know very little about. I’m the CEO at Postmates. 3
  • 4. We have to convince We try to get you to you to ignore this. actually give some random person you Hi. I’m met on the internet In real time. Avery. your car. I head up product at Getaround. Trust took three pieces: 1. The Platform 2. Between Users Hi. I’m 3. Screening of Bad Luke. Actors Products are about people. They Trust is something that wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for goes hand in hand with It’s a core I work on the product the people who use them. people and with human aspect of design team at facebook. interactions. There’s no the space. way to get around trust. 4
  • 5. How do we create trust Hi. I’m Andrew. We have a brand that relies in our users around on a lot of trust—people having very consistent I’m the graphic opening their homes to experiences? design lead at strangers. Airbnb. How do we also What was your most I was inspired to start preserve delight, surprising revelation zimride when facebook learning, and about designing for trust? came out with its discovery? platform. CHAPTER ONE It’s about putting an identity behind people. You know, I was thinking about cities. In a way they We lost that feeling of grew faster than we were trusting our neighbors. able to handle. 5
  • 6. This new ID/trust The interesting thing is information layer helps It’s allowing us to us connect and do things On a more specific that tech is no longer come together. separating us. we never would have level—ratings. done before. When Postmates started, the We implemented customer had the ability to this feature and rate the postman (courier). it’s been surprising. There was no way for courier to rate the customer. There’s a huge difference I’d really love Sometimes the customer is between the ratings that This diversity of ratings is to know the happy—they got their you give a courier and the something we don’t fully origin of that service, but the driver feels ratings you receive. understand yet. perception like they were treated like a of trust. driver or like a service person. 6
  • 7. In peer-to-peer (P2P) Ratings get thrown “I’m giving every car I rent a 3 star rating—they’re not a big component is around a lot as a exceptional, they’re all just normal cars. I get in feeling appreciated. thing to build trust. someone’s car and it’s like my friend’s car. That’s an ok, good, acceptable car. It’s 3 stars.” And I didn’t Being treated realize how like a human. meaningless they were until a guy wrote in and said: 1 star could Knowing why allows us to We get little to no We want to get more mean car respond and make the trust information from the understanding of WHY smells like in our community and the facebook nearby. 5 star rating system. people leave bad smoke or people in our community ratings. guy was 15 better as a whole. Everything minutes late. has 4 stars. We haven’t solved this yet, but we want to. Net promoter score is interesting. You It doesn’t make sense. ...But maybe If I think about people I’m subtract out all of the things in the it does... friends/acquaintances with, middle and look at things rated really How can everything and I think do I really trust highly and really poorly and you figure have 4 stars? this person, I’d tend to say out what the net score is. yes. But, maybe I haven’t been yet in a situation that really tested the limits of how much I trust them. 7
  • 8. Mutual reviews are important for gaining trust between our Another thing is having the payment system users. online. This ensures meaningful experiences AND trust between users offline. Accurate reviews are really important to creating trust in the community. Our most surprising revelation was about One of our biggest authenticity. design assets is What is a photography. place really like??? You don’t How do we know that make it much about authentic? it. We pushed our photographers It’s pretty easy to establish to deliver not trustworthiness in person With the remoteness of the just beautiful By doing this we’re at a glance. internet you have to add in work, but also creating really helpful lots of layers—how do you work that was tools that are based in add the human back in? really accurate. accuracy, NOT just beauty. CHAPTER TWO You can do this in milliseconds. 8
  • 9. We show a really large We have that 5 star rating The same goes for the image of the person system. You see the number courier. He sees the that does the delivery. A picture is very of deliveries that person did. customer’s name, rating, important. It’s important to show a level the number of deliveries. of experience. We show it crisp, we show it nice; it’s a very clean interface. When you order you I ordered through The biggest asset we have expect us to have the Postmates and the at Postmates is the inventory. inventory right. restaurant had We’re trying And we’re trying to understand stopped serving the to play this the inventory of a whole city. And being item I ordered... both ways. accurate builds trust. Getting a call right away to If we can’t solve something Signals for trusting a human in person: discuss other options far then we love to put a outweighed any dismay of process in place that helps Take the tech out! the restaurant not having work around things. initial dish. It’s hard to do, It meant Then over time but actually a TON. we replace that very, very with a product. valuable. 9
  • 10. Signals for trusting a human online: Online, none of that exists. We And what we found was the have to resort to secondary best way to trust the person ways of trusting people... was to meet them. ...their facebooks, their social So we started networks, their platform engagement, a key handoff. their number of rentals/deliveries/etc. Users were comfortable You’d meet the guy, hand him your key, It felt a lot less like a doing the key swap because he’d say ok, and you’d say bring it back. company and more just they knew the renter had like friends sharing cars. already crossed OUR threshold of trust. So then the decision came up to the owner. That’s actually a pretty cool example where introducing Looking at how we There’s a huge a little bit of friction actually handle tough situations responsibility helped the product. that come up... there. Our site integrity At facebook team does a lot of scale 1% of great work. users is still A LOT of people. It’s work that matters. 10
  • 11. We’re lucky to have people that are entrepreneurial— We hold some responsibility What happens How do we be mindful they want to generate in helping them do a good if someone’s of the line between free income off our site. job and helping them learn. being bullied? speech and safety and humanity? Helping them understand what actions they can take to help improve their own These are issues we’re success. still coming to terms with as a society... So there’s a role of education there, too. I think that’s the only way we’ve found to maintain Taking the tech out We had NO tech that high bar. was true for us. solution to find nice friendly people. We have all these processes, but the most important thing So we do an for our service is living in person up to this idea that it’s interview. your friend with a car. How portable is trust Splitting trust. Platform between platforms engagement is a metric and engagements? for inter-user trust. CHAPTER THREE 11
  • 12. You don’t want them Because of collaborative to find a least common People are taking their consumption bad actors denominator to get in reputations with them. are a bit of a worry. and get past the trust systems. Is there a way to bake in an The challenge with portability opportunity for people to is similar to the problems with have a second chance? a 5 star rating system. So that people aren’t just bad Everybody ends actors forever? up with a 4. Ratings are intricate. These ratings are different. Brand and context around a rating are extremely There are ways to splice important and you risk the data to see what a losing that if you merge particular rating means. it into a unified score. 12
  • 13. Maybe you need something Most of us, again, probably like a credit score? end up with 3.5 or 4 stars… Maybe that’s how Are you a good driver? ...somewhere life really is. in the middle. How do you rent out your apartment? There’s a lot of things. For some things I would want a very strict, precise It doesn’t mean you’re numerical rating system. going to love the food, but it means that it meets the safety threshold. Like what NYC is doing with public health and restaurant CHAPTER FOUR ratings is awesome. In terms of whether I’m going to love the food or not I definitely don’t want a numerical score. What types of fear factors The literature says trust do you face that you’re is built over lots of small, Understanding the trying to solve and how repeatable actions. You questions and finding did you first detect them? make an obligation and a way to address each then you uphold that. one. We launched without additional insurance but questions kept coming up. So we put together There’s a checklist: a million dollar per occurrence Are they a safe driver? insurance plan to cover every Are they a criminal? driver. Are the vehicles safe? 13
  • 14. We had to lobby and fight Initially, there to get a law passed that We had to build trust in us was no trust endorsed peer-to-peer first, then in the platform, in the platform. car sharing. and then between users. All messaging threads on are While you’re communicating, Research. Anticipate on our site. in that browser window you the needs of users. actually see that this person Solve for them. has a verified phone number. They’re connected to facebook. They’re connected through LinkedIn. As a society we try to We want to actually give figure out what does it as much information as mean to have so much And things that are digital possible where people content be digital? are going to be around for need it. a long time. They’re going to be indexed. They’re going to be searchable... 14
  • 15. When things were more They’ll be around analog there was privacy forever. I don’t think we via obscurity. have that figured out. Analog stuff is CHAPTER FIVE hard to find. Any insights in terms of helping women have a We wanted to make it good experience on clear lyft was a service these sharing platforms? that was safe for women. What better way to do that, in addition to all the background checks, than to have women driving? Andrew mentioned pay- Because you do not need any cash, the person that Women will use it as a ments, and this is not an delivers your item, you know his face, you know his name, passenger, but can also exciting example, but we you see on a map when he arrives, and you don’t need to see themselves as a driver. have a lot of feedback, pay him anything. That adds a level of security. especially from women. 15
  • 16. We wanted to make the We make sure the users are not bad actors. product safe for everyone. Whether you’re a man or a woman It’s the iceberg effect again—you when you go to this person’s house see the product that is above the you know that the car will be there. water and you don’t see what’s going on behind the scenes. And you know that this person will But it’s important. be friendly. There’s no margin With our Neighborhoods for error here. product accuracy was paramount. When you’re doing a Women solo travelers physical transaction with want to understand what tech it HAS to be safe. a neighborhood’s like. We highlight the accuracy of places so that people We are now officially can see up front whether out of time. they’d feel comfortable in that place. Good job to the panel. Want to get in touch? I’m on Twitter @ mrrioki. Or Thank you all email howdy@magicspoon.net. for coming out. 16