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Crossing boundaries: from evidence to impact?
             Some reflections.


                       Scott Drimie
  Regional Network on AIDS, Livelihoods and Food security
Objectives
• Focus on the challenge of translating this
  emerging evidence into large-scale action, and
  ultimately better impact.

• Discuss the pathways for policy influence when
  dealing with such complex interactions.

• Highlight some of the lessons from RENEWAL
  activity in eastern and southern Africa.
Science – Policy Interface
• Interface not well understood, and is often
  assumed.

• At least three distinctive perspectives:

   – a linear and logical approach;
   – an iterative and incremental approach; and
   – an approach centered more on discourse.
Moving in the Divided Space




                Improved
 Research                           Policy
             Multi-Directional
“Evidence”        Dialogue
                                 Programming
Diversity of experiences
• Network centred around a focal institution and
  advisory group in each country

• Network waxes and wanes around issue/ project

• Partners diverse approaches: research
  objectives, learning

• Evolution of thinking
Malawi MOA Capacity Strengthening

                                                                             NAC: 2008
                                                                          Irish Aid: 2009
                             MOA: Ext Services


                   HIV and Agriculture Task Force




      Strategy – based on
                                                          Capacity limitations
      scientific evidence




                               RENEWAL / Bunda
                            SADC VAC training on HIV/FS
Science                         Modules for MOA
                                  FAO Funding
                                                                 Sam Bota RENEWAL Malawi
TB and HIV in Mbekweni, South
            Africa

                                        Participant feedback
                                       Community engagement
ZAMBART Research                  Policy “dialogue” with NAC, DoH
    Project                            RENEWAL National Fora
                                      MSc degrees, publications
                                  Collaboration – build on strengths




         Feedback Meeting:
      “march on the councilors”
Working as a network: lessons

• The nature of politics and political engagement:

  – peculiar politics of HIV&AIDS

  – labyrinthine institutional issues

  – focus on sustaining relationships
Working as a network: lessons
• The maintenance of integrity of interactive
  research:

  – adherence to principles of science whilst maintaining
    close relationships with those with political authority

  – ensuring accountability to the communities within which
    the research is conducted.

  – To “reach-in” to what individuals and organisations share
    rather than to focus on differences.

  – Need for a strong centre (presence)
Working as a network: lessons
• Selecting and nurturing ‘champions’ in government
  and scientific organisations:

  – senior officials regularly move to new posts

  – scientists have a ‘natural’ reticence against use of their
    research in different forms and ways

  – Need to engage in critical commentary and interpretation
    with different ‘non-science’ parties
New Ways of Working
The “U-Process” in Mamelodi, South Africa:

– Urban-rural links research

   • Urban epidemic
   • Urban informal settlements have double the HIV
     prevalence of urban formal areas in South Africa
   • Risk factors (Weiser et al)
   • Mobility and spatial connections
Sickness and HIV:
if the individual in Johannesburg becomes too
sick to work, the majority will return back home


                    54 %




                    67%




 Urban livelihood                                   Support
                           Importance of
   that supports
another household            food           Burden on the
                                           household back
‘back home’ would
    be affected.                               home.
The “U-Process”: Phase 1
“
                         Co-Sensing

    “Learning to see… the                      Co-
    first schooling” –                         Realizing
    Nietzsche


    Activities: foundation
    workshops, learning
    journeys.


    Output: Documented
    shared understanding
    of reality.                       Co-Presencing
The “U-Process”: Phase 2
“
                                  Co-
    Retreat and Reflect           Sensing
    Getting in touch with own                        Co-
    relationship to the                              Realizing
    system, ‘inner knowing
    about it.


    Activities: Innovation
    retreat, Wilderness solos


    Output:: Clarity and
    commitment about what
    to do to create new reality             Co-Presencing
The “U-Process”: Phase 3
“

                             Co-
    Bringing the new         Sensing
    reality into existence                  Co-Realising


    Activities:
    Implementation of
    innovations with
    potential to change
    the system,
    prototyping, piloting,
    learning by doing

                                       Co-Presencing
Working as a network
• The seemingly interminably slow process of
  influencing policy requires a long-term perspective:

  – Need to be persistent, to adopt an informed, supportive,
    flexible and adaptive approach.

  – gradual strengthening of networks allows trust to be built
    while securing diverse representatives as a key source
    of legitimacy and, hence, influence.
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Crossing boundaries: from evidence to impact? Some reflections.

  • 1. Crossing boundaries: from evidence to impact? Some reflections. Scott Drimie Regional Network on AIDS, Livelihoods and Food security
  • 2. Objectives • Focus on the challenge of translating this emerging evidence into large-scale action, and ultimately better impact. • Discuss the pathways for policy influence when dealing with such complex interactions. • Highlight some of the lessons from RENEWAL activity in eastern and southern Africa.
  • 3. Science – Policy Interface • Interface not well understood, and is often assumed. • At least three distinctive perspectives: – a linear and logical approach; – an iterative and incremental approach; and – an approach centered more on discourse.
  • 4. Moving in the Divided Space Improved Research Policy Multi-Directional “Evidence” Dialogue Programming
  • 5. Diversity of experiences • Network centred around a focal institution and advisory group in each country • Network waxes and wanes around issue/ project • Partners diverse approaches: research objectives, learning • Evolution of thinking
  • 6. Malawi MOA Capacity Strengthening NAC: 2008 Irish Aid: 2009 MOA: Ext Services HIV and Agriculture Task Force Strategy – based on Capacity limitations scientific evidence RENEWAL / Bunda SADC VAC training on HIV/FS Science Modules for MOA FAO Funding Sam Bota RENEWAL Malawi
  • 7. TB and HIV in Mbekweni, South Africa Participant feedback Community engagement ZAMBART Research Policy “dialogue” with NAC, DoH Project RENEWAL National Fora MSc degrees, publications Collaboration – build on strengths Feedback Meeting: “march on the councilors”
  • 8. Working as a network: lessons • The nature of politics and political engagement: – peculiar politics of HIV&AIDS – labyrinthine institutional issues – focus on sustaining relationships
  • 9. Working as a network: lessons • The maintenance of integrity of interactive research: – adherence to principles of science whilst maintaining close relationships with those with political authority – ensuring accountability to the communities within which the research is conducted. – To “reach-in” to what individuals and organisations share rather than to focus on differences. – Need for a strong centre (presence)
  • 10. Working as a network: lessons • Selecting and nurturing ‘champions’ in government and scientific organisations: – senior officials regularly move to new posts – scientists have a ‘natural’ reticence against use of their research in different forms and ways – Need to engage in critical commentary and interpretation with different ‘non-science’ parties
  • 11. New Ways of Working The “U-Process” in Mamelodi, South Africa: – Urban-rural links research • Urban epidemic • Urban informal settlements have double the HIV prevalence of urban formal areas in South Africa • Risk factors (Weiser et al) • Mobility and spatial connections
  • 12. Sickness and HIV: if the individual in Johannesburg becomes too sick to work, the majority will return back home 54 % 67% Urban livelihood Support Importance of that supports another household food Burden on the household back ‘back home’ would be affected. home.
  • 13. The “U-Process”: Phase 1 “ Co-Sensing “Learning to see… the Co- first schooling” – Realizing Nietzsche Activities: foundation workshops, learning journeys. Output: Documented shared understanding of reality. Co-Presencing
  • 14. The “U-Process”: Phase 2 “ Co- Retreat and Reflect Sensing Getting in touch with own Co- relationship to the Realizing system, ‘inner knowing about it. Activities: Innovation retreat, Wilderness solos Output:: Clarity and commitment about what to do to create new reality Co-Presencing
  • 15. The “U-Process”: Phase 3 “ Co- Bringing the new Sensing reality into existence Co-Realising Activities: Implementation of innovations with potential to change the system, prototyping, piloting, learning by doing Co-Presencing
  • 16. Working as a network • The seemingly interminably slow process of influencing policy requires a long-term perspective: – Need to be persistent, to adopt an informed, supportive, flexible and adaptive approach. – gradual strengthening of networks allows trust to be built while securing diverse representatives as a key source of legitimacy and, hence, influence.