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MYTH/ LEGEND AND FOLKTALE DIFFERENCES
CUPID AND PSYCHE AND BEAUTY AND THE BEAST:
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MYTH AND FOLKTALE

Cupid and Psyche
 Greece, Mount
Olympus
 sacred
 In a specific time in the
past when there were
gods and goddesses
 Cupid (son of Venus)
 Psyche (Transformed
into an immortal
 Venus (Goddess of
Love

Beauty and the Beast
 In a land far away (no
specific place)
 Secular (no gods)
 Once upon a time
 Beast (enchanted)
 Human girl
 Fathers, sisters
SIMILARITIES
Cupid and Psyche
 Youngest and most
beautiful of three
daughters

Beauty and the Beast
 Youngest and most
beautiful of three
daughters

Others?

Others?
WAYS TO ANALYZE FOLKTALES
Themes and motifs
The recurring themes
and elements of
folktales
 Historical
Perspective: What
do the folktales tells
us about important
events in history?
(War, Famine,
medical care, legal
rights of peasants,
women)




Sociological
interpretations: What
do these tales tell us
about the class
system? About
gender roles? About
marriage and
courtship practices?
What do they tell us
about the values of
the cultures they are
from? What do they
tell us about the way
WAYS OF ANALYZING CONTINUED


Psychological
Interpretations: How
do the folktales
reflect the fears,
desires and needs of
children? Of adults?
What are the
symbolic
representations of
these drives?



Structural
interpretations: What
are the cross-cultural
similarities of
elements of folktales?
What are the
commonalities
between Cinderellas
across cultures?
Which are the
common elements
according to Vladimir
Propp?
THEMES AND MOTIF
Beauty and the Beast,
Urashima the Fisherman,
The Frog Princess,
Bluebeard, The Robber
Bridegroom








Youngest and most
beautiful daughter
Monster bridegrooms
Youth = innocence and
purity
Age = greed and
weakness and hostility
HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE: BEAUTY AND THE
BEAST


Six months: In the time before
cars and airplanes, trips to other
towns were often expected to last
for months with time for traveling,
visiting and conducting business at
the destination.



Give me one of your
daughters: In the days when many
marriages were arranged, the giving
of a daughter in marriage was
common. Women rarely had any
influence over the choice of their
husbands by their parents. Marriages
were often made for political or social
reasons, especially in higher society.
Dead mothers: Childbirth was
arduous and birth unavailable.
Women often died in childbirth.







Promised: Promises, while
important today, were more powerful
in the past when honor was a great
motivator. Also, before the time of
literacy among the masses and
written contracts, verbal promises
were given greater weight. A promise
was a contract and actionable by law
if broken.
Marina Warner interprets the tale as
the historical storyteller's way of
assuring young brides that arranged
marriages in which they must go live
with their husband's families can be
survived and even happy. The bride
must leave behind her old family and
embrace her husband as a loving
wife. Mutual affection and attachment
between the husband and wife will
lend itself to a happy marriage and
life for the young bride (Warner
1994).
SOCIOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS: BEAUTY AND
THE BEAST






Merchant: The daughter of a
merchant, Beauty is a member
of the middle class, not a
member of the nobility.
Servants: In past centuries, the
middle and upper class
households had servants, even
if only one. The lower class
usually worked as servants. The
family's inability to have even
one servant illustrates their total
poverty.
In the past, mirrors were
expensive and a luxury reserved
for the wealthy.






In the past, mirrors were
expensive and a luxury reserved
for the wealthy.
Women are expected to obey
fathers.
The youngest is the least
experienced and perhaps most
protected of the children in a
family. The youngest is also the
child least likely to receive a
financial inheritance in the days
when the eldest son received the
bulk of a father's estate. The
youngest would consequently find
it necessary to know how to fend
for themselves in the world by
marrying well or choosing a
career.
PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS: BEAUTY
AND THE BEAST






Forest: According to Jungian
psychology, the forest is a
representation of the feminine
principle and is identified with the
unconscious. The foliage blocks the
sun's rays, the sun being
associated with the male principle.
The forest symbolizes the
dangerous side of the unconscious,
its ability to destroy reason.
. Mirrors: A mirror has many
symbolic meanings of truth and
representation of a person's heart.
Garden: The garden is an
important element of the tale,
appearing in most versions. It
represents the magical field and
boundaries around the Beast's
castle, immune to the seasons and
growing impossible and beautiful
fruits and flowers.









A garden symbolizes the conscious,
the soul, nature subdued, feminine
fertility, happiness, Paradise,
salvation, purity, the world, and the
place of mystic ecstasy
Rose: Roses symbolize love,
completion, perfection, beauty,
female sex organs, and the heart
(Olderr 1986).
The rose is a common element in the
Beauty and the Beast tales. Beauty
usually requests a rose from her
father, hoping to ask for a gift he can
afford whatever his success in
reviving his business. Ironically,
Beauty's request for the rose will be
the most dangerous and costly gift
the father tries to produce.
Thomas Mintz views the rose as
"representing both the Beast's
masculinity and Beauty's femininity.
PSYCH INTERPRETATIONS CONT’D


A fairy represents the supranormal powers of the human
soul; latent possibilities; the
personification of stages in the
development of the spirit; and
the lesser spiritual moods of the
universal spirit



The jealous sisters: Beauty is
the youngest and best-beloved
of the sisters and is thus a target
of their enmity. They want to do
away with her and make her
lose anything they feel should
be theirs





Weak fathers: fathers may be
seen to be incapable of seeing
their daughters as objects of
sexual desire. In this case the
father may be seen as avoiding
the issue of marriage of his
daughter. She takes the choice
from him. He may see any suitor
a a sort of beast.
. Silence: One can imagine a
deafening silence, filled with the
suspense of searching for an
inhabitant, be it human or animal.
In a large castle that should be
bustling with life and activity to
keep it in good shape, the silence
would be terrifying. The silence
also foreshadows that the Beast
does not have all of the traits of a
beast, including noisiness.
GROUP WORK


Discuss themes and
possible psychological,
historical and
sociological
interpretations of
Bluebeard and the
Robber Bridegroom.
HOMEWORK
From Classic Fairy Tales

Read
 Propp’sMethod and Materials
pp. 382 – 387
 Little Red Riding Hood
pp.
11 – 12
 Little Red Cap pp. 13 – 15
 Goldflowerand the Bear
pp. 19 – 20
 Hansel and Gretel
pp. 273 – 280
 Hansel and Gretel
pp. 184 – 190
 Molly Whuppie
pp. 209 - 211

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Class 14

  • 1. MYTH/ LEGEND AND FOLKTALE DIFFERENCES
  • 2. CUPID AND PSYCHE AND BEAUTY AND THE BEAST: DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MYTH AND FOLKTALE Cupid and Psyche  Greece, Mount Olympus  sacred  In a specific time in the past when there were gods and goddesses  Cupid (son of Venus)  Psyche (Transformed into an immortal  Venus (Goddess of Love Beauty and the Beast  In a land far away (no specific place)  Secular (no gods)  Once upon a time  Beast (enchanted)  Human girl  Fathers, sisters
  • 3. SIMILARITIES Cupid and Psyche  Youngest and most beautiful of three daughters Beauty and the Beast  Youngest and most beautiful of three daughters Others? Others?
  • 4. WAYS TO ANALYZE FOLKTALES Themes and motifs The recurring themes and elements of folktales  Historical Perspective: What do the folktales tells us about important events in history? (War, Famine, medical care, legal rights of peasants, women)   Sociological interpretations: What do these tales tell us about the class system? About gender roles? About marriage and courtship practices? What do they tell us about the values of the cultures they are from? What do they tell us about the way
  • 5. WAYS OF ANALYZING CONTINUED  Psychological Interpretations: How do the folktales reflect the fears, desires and needs of children? Of adults? What are the symbolic representations of these drives?  Structural interpretations: What are the cross-cultural similarities of elements of folktales? What are the commonalities between Cinderellas across cultures? Which are the common elements according to Vladimir Propp?
  • 6. THEMES AND MOTIF Beauty and the Beast, Urashima the Fisherman, The Frog Princess, Bluebeard, The Robber Bridegroom     Youngest and most beautiful daughter Monster bridegrooms Youth = innocence and purity Age = greed and weakness and hostility
  • 7. HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST  Six months: In the time before cars and airplanes, trips to other towns were often expected to last for months with time for traveling, visiting and conducting business at the destination.  Give me one of your daughters: In the days when many marriages were arranged, the giving of a daughter in marriage was common. Women rarely had any influence over the choice of their husbands by their parents. Marriages were often made for political or social reasons, especially in higher society. Dead mothers: Childbirth was arduous and birth unavailable. Women often died in childbirth.    Promised: Promises, while important today, were more powerful in the past when honor was a great motivator. Also, before the time of literacy among the masses and written contracts, verbal promises were given greater weight. A promise was a contract and actionable by law if broken. Marina Warner interprets the tale as the historical storyteller's way of assuring young brides that arranged marriages in which they must go live with their husband's families can be survived and even happy. The bride must leave behind her old family and embrace her husband as a loving wife. Mutual affection and attachment between the husband and wife will lend itself to a happy marriage and life for the young bride (Warner 1994).
  • 8. SOCIOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST    Merchant: The daughter of a merchant, Beauty is a member of the middle class, not a member of the nobility. Servants: In past centuries, the middle and upper class households had servants, even if only one. The lower class usually worked as servants. The family's inability to have even one servant illustrates their total poverty. In the past, mirrors were expensive and a luxury reserved for the wealthy.    In the past, mirrors were expensive and a luxury reserved for the wealthy. Women are expected to obey fathers. The youngest is the least experienced and perhaps most protected of the children in a family. The youngest is also the child least likely to receive a financial inheritance in the days when the eldest son received the bulk of a father's estate. The youngest would consequently find it necessary to know how to fend for themselves in the world by marrying well or choosing a career.
  • 9. PSYCHOLOGICAL INTERPRETATIONS: BEAUTY AND THE BEAST    Forest: According to Jungian psychology, the forest is a representation of the feminine principle and is identified with the unconscious. The foliage blocks the sun's rays, the sun being associated with the male principle. The forest symbolizes the dangerous side of the unconscious, its ability to destroy reason. . Mirrors: A mirror has many symbolic meanings of truth and representation of a person's heart. Garden: The garden is an important element of the tale, appearing in most versions. It represents the magical field and boundaries around the Beast's castle, immune to the seasons and growing impossible and beautiful fruits and flowers.     A garden symbolizes the conscious, the soul, nature subdued, feminine fertility, happiness, Paradise, salvation, purity, the world, and the place of mystic ecstasy Rose: Roses symbolize love, completion, perfection, beauty, female sex organs, and the heart (Olderr 1986). The rose is a common element in the Beauty and the Beast tales. Beauty usually requests a rose from her father, hoping to ask for a gift he can afford whatever his success in reviving his business. Ironically, Beauty's request for the rose will be the most dangerous and costly gift the father tries to produce. Thomas Mintz views the rose as "representing both the Beast's masculinity and Beauty's femininity.
  • 10. PSYCH INTERPRETATIONS CONT’D  A fairy represents the supranormal powers of the human soul; latent possibilities; the personification of stages in the development of the spirit; and the lesser spiritual moods of the universal spirit  The jealous sisters: Beauty is the youngest and best-beloved of the sisters and is thus a target of their enmity. They want to do away with her and make her lose anything they feel should be theirs   Weak fathers: fathers may be seen to be incapable of seeing their daughters as objects of sexual desire. In this case the father may be seen as avoiding the issue of marriage of his daughter. She takes the choice from him. He may see any suitor a a sort of beast. . Silence: One can imagine a deafening silence, filled with the suspense of searching for an inhabitant, be it human or animal. In a large castle that should be bustling with life and activity to keep it in good shape, the silence would be terrifying. The silence also foreshadows that the Beast does not have all of the traits of a beast, including noisiness.
  • 11. GROUP WORK  Discuss themes and possible psychological, historical and sociological interpretations of Bluebeard and the Robber Bridegroom.
  • 12. HOMEWORK From Classic Fairy Tales Read  Propp’sMethod and Materials pp. 382 – 387  Little Red Riding Hood pp. 11 – 12  Little Red Cap pp. 13 – 15  Goldflowerand the Bear pp. 19 – 20  Hansel and Gretel pp. 273 – 280  Hansel and Gretel pp. 184 – 190  Molly Whuppie pp. 209 - 211