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AGENDA
 Thoughts on Machiavelli or Lao-Tzu
 Introduce Essay #3: Justice: Due Nov 13
 Discussion: Marcus Tullius Cicero "The Defense of
  Injustice"
 Bio
 Rhetorical Strategies
  Questions for Critical Reading
  QHQs
 Suggestions for Reading: Thoreau
 Student Evaluations: Dr. Carol Cini: 11:40-12:00
FOR DISCUSSION

 Do you agree with Machiavelli’s thesis that stability
  and power are the only qualities that matter in the
  evaluation of governments? If not, what else
  matters?

 Can we have Lao-Tzu’s peace, even though there is
  ambition, materialism, war, and famine on earth?
  How is it possible?
ESSAY #3: JUSTICE

 Essay #3 will be in response to either the excerpt
  from Cicero, Thoreau, or both.
 Choose your topic from "Suggestions for
  Writing" on pages 129-30, prompts 1-9 or on
  pages 157-58 prompts 1-6. The prompts are also
  listed on the website.
It should be a least one page long but not longer than
 two pages (excluding a works cited page).
It should be formatted MLA style.
It is due November 13 (a week from today)
MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO: A BRIEF BIOGRAPHY

 Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC) was one of the most
  important orators, intellectuals, and philosophers in the Roman
  Republic.
 He was highly educated and served as Quaestor (a financial
  administrator) in Sicily, Aedile (an official) in Rome, and as
  Praetor (Lawyer). He was eventually elected Consul in 63.
 In 44, when Caesar was murdered, Cicero championed the
  Republic. He tried to win over Octavian, but failed. He also gave
  his greatest speech, the Philipics, aimed at Marc Antony.
  However, this backfired, as the Second Triumvirate was formed,
  and Cicero's name was on the list of enemies. He fled Rome, but
  he was captured and executed.
 Cicero's oration, philosophy, rhetoric, poetry, and letters create a
  vast collection of works that are matched by few in the modern
  world.
RHETORICAL STRATEGIES
Argument Dialogue                         Compares
     (Between Philus and Laelius)           (Justice to policies of
Definition/interpretation                     Rome)
     (What is Justice?)                  Contrasts
Offers Alternatives                          (Wisdom with Justice)
     (perform injustice/not suffer it;
    perform and suffer; neither perform   Analogy
    or suffer it)                            (virtuous man vs. ruffian)
Evaluation                                Counterargument
 (perform injustice and not                 (by Laelius at the end to
  suffer it)
                                              make his point)
WHY DOES LAELIUS CHOOSE PHILUS TO
ARGUE AGAINST JUSTICE?
DOES ARGUING AGAINST A POSITIVE
VALUE HELP OUR UNDERSTANDING OF
    THAT VALUE’S IMPORTANCE?
WHAT IS PHILUS’S REPUTATION AND HOW DOES IT
AFFECT HIS ARGUMENT?
HOW DO IDEAS OF
JUSTICE DIFFER IN THE
DIFFERENT LANDS
PHILUS MENTIONS?
ON WHICH SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT IS CICERO HIMSELF?
TO WHAT EXTENT IS PHILUS
A FEMINIST?
WHICH OF LAELIUS’S STATEMENTS IN THE FINAL PARAGRAPHS OF THE SELECTION SEEM
WEAKEST TO YOU? WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS?
1. Why does Cicero choose to present his persuasive
   argument in a manner that appears to advocate the
   opposing side of his argument? Was the point for justice
   made?
2. Does Philus make injustice more appealing by the use of
   his words? Is it possible to argue against a positive value
   and then change your mind about that positive value?
3. Does the concept of “natural law” belong in the context of
   justice within any given society? If natural law is
   inseparable from justice than how necessary are laws
   that are man made (positive law)?
1. Why does the idea of justice vary so
   much?
2. How is justice formed if the nature of it
   differs from one place to another?
3. Does true justice exist at all?
4. What is the difference between wisdom
   and justice?
1. Can some of Philus’ statements be related
   to Lao-Tzu’s teachings?
2. Would Philus be considered as extreme as
   Lao-Tzu and Machiavelli or in between?
3. Why is Philus so focused on governments
   in chaos and those with wisdom? How
   does this idea intersect with the ideas of
   Machiavelli and Lao-Tzu
• Get into your teams
            • Divide up the questions for
              critical reading the Thoreau
              piece.
JUSTICE


          Suggestions for Critical
          Reading
          Page 157
 Read A World of Ideas: Henry David Thoreau
  "Civil Disobedience" (133-157)
 Post #25 Questions (TBD) for Critical Reading:
  (page 157)
 Post #26 Pass




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Class 13

  • 1.
  • 2. AGENDA  Thoughts on Machiavelli or Lao-Tzu  Introduce Essay #3: Justice: Due Nov 13  Discussion: Marcus Tullius Cicero "The Defense of Injustice" Bio Rhetorical Strategies  Questions for Critical Reading  QHQs  Suggestions for Reading: Thoreau  Student Evaluations: Dr. Carol Cini: 11:40-12:00
  • 3. FOR DISCUSSION  Do you agree with Machiavelli’s thesis that stability and power are the only qualities that matter in the evaluation of governments? If not, what else matters?  Can we have Lao-Tzu’s peace, even though there is ambition, materialism, war, and famine on earth? How is it possible?
  • 4. ESSAY #3: JUSTICE  Essay #3 will be in response to either the excerpt from Cicero, Thoreau, or both.  Choose your topic from "Suggestions for Writing" on pages 129-30, prompts 1-9 or on pages 157-58 prompts 1-6. The prompts are also listed on the website. It should be a least one page long but not longer than two pages (excluding a works cited page). It should be formatted MLA style. It is due November 13 (a week from today)
  • 5.
  • 6. MARCUS TULLIUS CICERO: A BRIEF BIOGRAPHY  Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC) was one of the most important orators, intellectuals, and philosophers in the Roman Republic.  He was highly educated and served as Quaestor (a financial administrator) in Sicily, Aedile (an official) in Rome, and as Praetor (Lawyer). He was eventually elected Consul in 63.  In 44, when Caesar was murdered, Cicero championed the Republic. He tried to win over Octavian, but failed. He also gave his greatest speech, the Philipics, aimed at Marc Antony. However, this backfired, as the Second Triumvirate was formed, and Cicero's name was on the list of enemies. He fled Rome, but he was captured and executed.  Cicero's oration, philosophy, rhetoric, poetry, and letters create a vast collection of works that are matched by few in the modern world.
  • 7.
  • 8. RHETORICAL STRATEGIES Argument Dialogue Compares  (Between Philus and Laelius)  (Justice to policies of Definition/interpretation Rome)  (What is Justice?) Contrasts Offers Alternatives  (Wisdom with Justice)  (perform injustice/not suffer it; perform and suffer; neither perform Analogy or suffer it)  (virtuous man vs. ruffian) Evaluation Counterargument  (perform injustice and not  (by Laelius at the end to suffer it) make his point)
  • 9.
  • 10. WHY DOES LAELIUS CHOOSE PHILUS TO ARGUE AGAINST JUSTICE?
  • 11. DOES ARGUING AGAINST A POSITIVE VALUE HELP OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT VALUE’S IMPORTANCE?
  • 12. WHAT IS PHILUS’S REPUTATION AND HOW DOES IT AFFECT HIS ARGUMENT?
  • 13. HOW DO IDEAS OF JUSTICE DIFFER IN THE DIFFERENT LANDS PHILUS MENTIONS?
  • 14. ON WHICH SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT IS CICERO HIMSELF?
  • 15. TO WHAT EXTENT IS PHILUS A FEMINIST?
  • 16. WHICH OF LAELIUS’S STATEMENTS IN THE FINAL PARAGRAPHS OF THE SELECTION SEEM WEAKEST TO YOU? WHAT ARE THE STRENGTHS?
  • 17.
  • 18. 1. Why does Cicero choose to present his persuasive argument in a manner that appears to advocate the opposing side of his argument? Was the point for justice made? 2. Does Philus make injustice more appealing by the use of his words? Is it possible to argue against a positive value and then change your mind about that positive value? 3. Does the concept of “natural law” belong in the context of justice within any given society? If natural law is inseparable from justice than how necessary are laws that are man made (positive law)?
  • 19. 1. Why does the idea of justice vary so much? 2. How is justice formed if the nature of it differs from one place to another? 3. Does true justice exist at all? 4. What is the difference between wisdom and justice?
  • 20. 1. Can some of Philus’ statements be related to Lao-Tzu’s teachings? 2. Would Philus be considered as extreme as Lao-Tzu and Machiavelli or in between? 3. Why is Philus so focused on governments in chaos and those with wisdom? How does this idea intersect with the ideas of Machiavelli and Lao-Tzu
  • 21. • Get into your teams • Divide up the questions for critical reading the Thoreau piece. JUSTICE Suggestions for Critical Reading Page 157
  • 22.  Read A World of Ideas: Henry David Thoreau "Civil Disobedience" (133-157)  Post #25 Questions (TBD) for Critical Reading: (page 157)  Post #26 Pass HOMEWORK