George Tan, Follower of Christ
 Josephus
◦ Jewish historian born AD 37.
◦ Son of a priest.
◦ Wrote ‘The Jewish War’ in AD77
◦ ‘Antiquities of the Jews’ in AD 93
◦ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
 If there is Jesus, history would record
 Apart from Bible, any others?
 Jews literature
 Explanation on the Old Testament
 Most important classic apart from the Torah.
 Babylonian Talmud, Jesus was referred to 6
times.
 All negative but shows Jesus exists.
 Pliny the Younger, 63 – 113
 Tacitus, 55-117
 Suetonius, 70 – 160
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Je
sus
 Not much records
 Not surprising
 But enough
 Basis of Christian faith is the Bible.
 40+ authors
 Different backgrounds
 Different eras
 No communications across all authors
 Complete book
 2Tim3:16 , 2Pet1:20-21
 Written by man, controlled by God.
 Bold declaration, either truth or false.
 Authors declaration, Jer 1:9 , 2Sam 23:2
 Compare Rom 9:17 and Exo 9:16
 Authors point of view, 1Cor 14:37
 About Christ:
◦ Luke 24:25,27, Isaiah 53 and Micah 5:2
 Regarding Jews
◦ Deportation, Return and Restoration. Jeremiah 31
 Non Jewish Town Tyre, Ezekiel 26
 Temple, Mark 13:2, Matthew 24:2
 http://www.raptureforums.com/BibleProphec
y/101lastdays.cfm
 Christianity: religion developed throughout
history
 Bible is also developed in history
 OT
◦ Honor in copying scriptures
◦ Completed around 200 BC
◦ Masoretic Text around 900BC
◦ Dead Sea scrolls 1000BC
 Little differences between Masoretic Text
 From Jesus’s mouth to words
 To apostles letters to NT
 Apostles wrote with authority 2Pet3:15-16
 Now 4000 copies of NT. Little differences.
 Time difference very small.
 Old Testament:
◦ Established about 300BC
◦ Jewish historian Josephus also testified this.
◦ Dead Sea Scrolls also included the whole Old
Testament.
◦ During the New Testament time, all Jews including
Jesus accepted the Old Testament.
 Early churches was already reading and
collecting. Col 4:16, 1Thes 5:27, 2Pet3:15,
16
 Used by early church fathers; 200AD is the
foetus stage.
 From the 300AD to 400AD, churches and
church fathers both accepted the New
Testament.
 Official acceptance in Carthage Council in
397AD
 From the apostles or PA.
 Acceptance from the original church to other
churches
 Content is in line with the apostles teachings
 Acknowledged by all as the work of the Holy
Spirit
 Accepting not deciding
 Bible was completed in history
 God’s work in history
 Church accepting bible: Under its authority
 Under apostles, under bible
 Creation is a miracle.
 What is the big difference?

Apologetics 4

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  • 2.
     Josephus ◦ Jewishhistorian born AD 37. ◦ Son of a priest. ◦ Wrote ‘The Jewish War’ in AD77 ◦ ‘Antiquities of the Jews’ in AD 93 ◦ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
  • 3.
     If thereis Jesus, history would record  Apart from Bible, any others?
  • 4.
     Jews literature Explanation on the Old Testament  Most important classic apart from the Torah.  Babylonian Talmud, Jesus was referred to 6 times.  All negative but shows Jesus exists.
  • 5.
     Pliny theYounger, 63 – 113  Tacitus, 55-117  Suetonius, 70 – 160  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Je sus
  • 6.
     Not muchrecords  Not surprising  But enough
  • 7.
     Basis ofChristian faith is the Bible.  40+ authors  Different backgrounds  Different eras  No communications across all authors  Complete book
  • 8.
     2Tim3:16 ,2Pet1:20-21  Written by man, controlled by God.  Bold declaration, either truth or false.
  • 9.
     Authors declaration,Jer 1:9 , 2Sam 23:2  Compare Rom 9:17 and Exo 9:16  Authors point of view, 1Cor 14:37
  • 10.
     About Christ: ◦Luke 24:25,27, Isaiah 53 and Micah 5:2  Regarding Jews ◦ Deportation, Return and Restoration. Jeremiah 31  Non Jewish Town Tyre, Ezekiel 26  Temple, Mark 13:2, Matthew 24:2  http://www.raptureforums.com/BibleProphec y/101lastdays.cfm
  • 11.
     Christianity: religiondeveloped throughout history  Bible is also developed in history
  • 12.
     OT ◦ Honorin copying scriptures ◦ Completed around 200 BC ◦ Masoretic Text around 900BC ◦ Dead Sea scrolls 1000BC  Little differences between Masoretic Text
  • 13.
     From Jesus’smouth to words  To apostles letters to NT  Apostles wrote with authority 2Pet3:15-16  Now 4000 copies of NT. Little differences.  Time difference very small.
  • 14.
     Old Testament: ◦Established about 300BC ◦ Jewish historian Josephus also testified this. ◦ Dead Sea Scrolls also included the whole Old Testament. ◦ During the New Testament time, all Jews including Jesus accepted the Old Testament.
  • 15.
     Early churcheswas already reading and collecting. Col 4:16, 1Thes 5:27, 2Pet3:15, 16  Used by early church fathers; 200AD is the foetus stage.  From the 300AD to 400AD, churches and church fathers both accepted the New Testament.  Official acceptance in Carthage Council in 397AD
  • 16.
     From theapostles or PA.  Acceptance from the original church to other churches  Content is in line with the apostles teachings  Acknowledged by all as the work of the Holy Spirit  Accepting not deciding
  • 17.
     Bible wascompleted in history  God’s work in history  Church accepting bible: Under its authority  Under apostles, under bible  Creation is a miracle.
  • 18.
     What isthe big difference?