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Interview with: Mohamed A. El-
Erian, Chief Economic Adviser,
Allianz, Former CEO & Co-CIO of
PIMCO
“Investors must recognise that their
mindset, beliefs and historical experi-
ences will be challenged by unusual
fluidity in the political, economic,
financial and institutional areas,” says
Mohamed A. El-Erian, Chief Economic
Adviser, Allianz, Former CEO & Co-CIO
of PIMCO. “Investors should not just
target one likely outcome, but recognise
there is “unusual uncertainty” and build
portfolio resilience and agility,” he
continues.
El-Erian is a keynote speaker at the
marcus evans European Pensions &
Investments Summit 2017, taking
place in Montreux, Switzerland, 15 – 17
May.
What are some of the recent
changes to the global economic
system that investors and pension
funds should be aware of?
The biggest changes come from the
political side and the implications for
economics, finance, institutions and the
markets. It is the unusual uncertainty
associated with political developments,
particularly in the US and Europe. In the
US, it is the election of Donald Trump
and the wider set of two-sided risks he
brings to investors. On the one side, he
may unlock the gridlock in policies and
help promote economic growth, push
asset prices higher and allow the Fed to
normalise in an orderly fashion. On the
other side, more worrying is the
possibility of trade wars as economic
nationalism and populism picks up fuel.
In Europe economic nationalism is also
fuelling anti-establishment movements
and raising questions not just about
economic growth and markets, but also
on how institutions and regional
economic arrangements are set up.
The bottom line is, investors have to
consider political risk in a manner that
they did not have to do before, and the
extent to which that can impact the
economy, institutions, markets and,
therefore, the trifecta that is most
important to their portfolios: expected
return, asset volatility and asset
correlation.
How should they change the way
they construct their portfolio?
A lot depends on which Trump
administration we get. There are two
possibilities. One is a supportive Trump
administration that passes tax reform,
deregulates in a prudent fashion, and
embarks on infrastructure spending,
which would raise not just actual growth
but also the future growth potential of
the US. That would be beneficial for
long-term investors as fundamentals
ultimately drive portfolio returns. But
there is also the possibility of protec-
tionism consistent with campaign talk to
dismantle NAFTA, impose high tariffs on
China and Mexico, end bilateral trade
agreements with countries such as
Korea, which would result in stagflation.
This would promote the risk of a trade
war, undermine global growth and raise
consumer prices around the world. That
would not be good for investors, who
would lose both from low growth and
their fixed income exposure would
suffer from inflation.
It is too early to tell which side will
prevail. If I were forced to make a call
today, I would say we are more likely to
get the first Trump administration than
the second, but the extent of uncer-
tainty is quite high.
How can they build portfolio
resilience and agility?
Investors must get used to running
multiple scenario analyses, to explicitly
realize that many outcomes are possible
and to have detailed plans for what to
do as more information becomes
available. This is a mindset shift from
targeting just one asset allocation to
recognising there are many alternatives,
and they have to think about them
during the calm days.
The second is to be much more
selective in allocating to sectors and
giving up on liquidity. Liquidity has
become even more important as it gives
investors the ability to respond quickly.
The third element is to recognise that
traditional endogenous risk mitigation
based on traditional correlations is going
to be challenged in a world of political
risk.
Any final advice on risk mitigation?
Pension funds, especially if they are
underfunded, need to ask themselves
what mistakes they can afford to make
and what mistakes they cannot afford.
That is not an easy discussion to have.
But it is a very important one given the
unusual degree of uncertainty.
Investors
must get
used to
running
multiple
scenario
analyses
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  • 1. Interview with: Mohamed A. El- Erian, Chief Economic Adviser, Allianz, Former CEO & Co-CIO of PIMCO “Investors must recognise that their mindset, beliefs and historical experi- ences will be challenged by unusual fluidity in the political, economic, financial and institutional areas,” says Mohamed A. El-Erian, Chief Economic Adviser, Allianz, Former CEO & Co-CIO of PIMCO. “Investors should not just target one likely outcome, but recognise there is “unusual uncertainty” and build portfolio resilience and agility,” he continues. El-Erian is a keynote speaker at the marcus evans European Pensions & Investments Summit 2017, taking place in Montreux, Switzerland, 15 – 17 May. What are some of the recent changes to the global economic system that investors and pension funds should be aware of? The biggest changes come from the political side and the implications for economics, finance, institutions and the markets. It is the unusual uncertainty associated with political developments, particularly in the US and Europe. In the US, it is the election of Donald Trump and the wider set of two-sided risks he brings to investors. On the one side, he may unlock the gridlock in policies and help promote economic growth, push asset prices higher and allow the Fed to normalise in an orderly fashion. On the other side, more worrying is the possibility of trade wars as economic nationalism and populism picks up fuel. In Europe economic nationalism is also fuelling anti-establishment movements and raising questions not just about economic growth and markets, but also on how institutions and regional economic arrangements are set up. The bottom line is, investors have to consider political risk in a manner that they did not have to do before, and the extent to which that can impact the economy, institutions, markets and, therefore, the trifecta that is most important to their portfolios: expected return, asset volatility and asset correlation. How should they change the way they construct their portfolio? A lot depends on which Trump administration we get. There are two possibilities. One is a supportive Trump administration that passes tax reform, deregulates in a prudent fashion, and embarks on infrastructure spending, which would raise not just actual growth but also the future growth potential of the US. That would be beneficial for long-term investors as fundamentals ultimately drive portfolio returns. But there is also the possibility of protec- tionism consistent with campaign talk to dismantle NAFTA, impose high tariffs on China and Mexico, end bilateral trade agreements with countries such as Korea, which would result in stagflation. This would promote the risk of a trade war, undermine global growth and raise consumer prices around the world. That would not be good for investors, who would lose both from low growth and their fixed income exposure would suffer from inflation. It is too early to tell which side will prevail. If I were forced to make a call today, I would say we are more likely to get the first Trump administration than the second, but the extent of uncer- tainty is quite high. How can they build portfolio resilience and agility? Investors must get used to running multiple scenario analyses, to explicitly realize that many outcomes are possible and to have detailed plans for what to do as more information becomes available. This is a mindset shift from targeting just one asset allocation to recognising there are many alternatives, and they have to think about them during the calm days. The second is to be much more selective in allocating to sectors and giving up on liquidity. Liquidity has become even more important as it gives investors the ability to respond quickly. The third element is to recognise that traditional endogenous risk mitigation based on traditional correlations is going to be challenged in a world of political risk. Any final advice on risk mitigation? Pension funds, especially if they are underfunded, need to ask themselves what mistakes they can afford to make and what mistakes they cannot afford. That is not an easy discussion to have. But it is a very important one given the unusual degree of uncertainty. Investors must get used to running multiple scenario analyses Achieving Investment Portfolio Resilience & Agility in Today’s Uncertain Landscape
  • 2. The Investment Network – marcus evans Summits group delivers peer-to-peer information on strategic matters, professional t r e n d s a n d b r e a k t h r o u g h innovations. Please note that the Summit is a closed business event and the number of participants strictly limited. About the European Pensions & Investments Summit 2017 The 17th annual European Pensions & Investments Summit is the ultimate meeting point, bringing elite buyers and sellers together. The Summit offers regional pension investors and international fund managers and consultants an intimate environment for focused discussion of the key new drivers shaping institutional asset allocations. Taking place at the Fairmont Le Montreux Palace, Montreux, Switzerland, 15 - 17 May, the Summit includes presentations on global economic trends, mastering private equity, exploring real estate opportunities and implementing socially responsible policies. www.epi-summit.com Contact Sarin Kouyoumdjian-Gurunlian, Press Manager, marcus evans, Summits Division Tel: + 357 22 849 313 Email: press@marcusevanscy.com For more information please send an email to press@marcusevanscy.com All rights reserved. The above content may be republished or reproduced. Kindly inform us by sending an email to press@marcusevanscy.com About marcus evans Summits marcus evans Summits are high level business forums for the world’s leading decision-makers to meet, learn and discuss strategies and solutions. Held at exclusive locations around the world, these events provide attendees with a unique opportunity to individually tailor their schedules of keynote presentations, case studies, roundtables and one-to-one business meetings. For more information, please visit: www.marcusevans.com Upcoming Events Elite Summit - www.elitesummit.com Private Wealth Management Summit (APAC) - www.pwmsummit.com Private Wealth Management Summit (North America) - www.privatewealthsummit.com To view the web version of this interview, please click here: http://events.marcusevans-events.com/epi2017-mohamed-el-erian