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Macrina, the Soul
and the Resurrection
(324-379)
Macrina The Younger
Life
A Family of Saints
Death of Father and Fiancé
Vow of Celibacy
Caring for Mom
Macrina The Younger
“The Teacher”
The Education of Peter
“She became everything for the child
(Peter), father, teacher, guide, mother,
counselor in every good, and she
perfected him...”
Macrina The Younger
“The Teacher”
The Education of Peter
The Education of Gregory
“...she was lifted up by her discourse and spoke
to me of her philosophy of the soul; how she
explained the reason for life in the flesh, for what
purpose man exists, how he is mortal, what is the
source of death and what release there is from
death back to life again. On all of these subjects,
as if inspired by the Holy Spirit, she explained
everything clearly and logically, her speech
flowing with complete ease...”
Macrina The Younger
“The Teacher”
The Education of Peter
The Education of Gregory
The Education of Basil
When he returned from Athens, “he was
monstrously conceited”.
Macrina The Younger
“The Teacher”
The Education of Peter
The Education of Gregory
The Education of Basil
“The Christian Socrates”
Macrina The Younger
Plantation to Monastery
“...put herself on an equal footing with
the community of maidens, so as to share
on equal terms with them one table, bed
and all the needs of life, with every
difference of rank eliminated from their
lives.”
Macrina The Younger
Famine
“...because of the throng of visitors, the
wilderness looked like a city.”
Macrina The Younger
Wonderworker
“If you do me the favor of sharing our
table with us, I will give you in return as
reward to match your courtesy.”
Macrina The Younger
The Life of Saint Macrina
“...it was a woman who prompted our
narrative, if, that is, we may call her a
woman, for I do not know if it is
appropriate to apply a name drawn from
nature to one who has risen above
nature.”
Gregory of Nyssa
(335-394)
Family
Education
Marriage? Theosebia the Deaconess
Bishop at Nyssa
Council of Ancyra (375)
Death of Macrina (379)
Council of Constantinople (381)
“ ‘I got me slave-girls and slaves.’
For what price, tell me? What did you find in existence worth as
much as this human nature? What price did you put on rationality?
How many obols did you reckon the
equivalent of the likeness of God? How
many staters did you get for selling that
being shaped by God?
God said, Let us make man in our own
image and likeness. If he is in the likeness
of God, and rules the whole earth, and has
been granted authority over everything on
earth from God, who is his buyer, tell me?
Who is his seller?”
Gregory of Nyssa
(335-394)
The Life of Moses
Against Eunomius
On the Holy Spirit
On the Holy Trinity
The Life of Saint Macrina
On the Soul and the Resurrection
Many More...
“For Gregory distinctions of sex are
irrelevant to the life one lives in God
and will in fact disappear in heaven.”
Kevin Corrigan
Gregory of Nyssa
(335-394)
On the Soul and the Resurrection
Issues...
A Woman as “The Teacher”.
Who gets credit?
The Nature of the Soul.
The Nature of the Resurrection.
Christian Universalism.
The Setting
“Basil, great amongst the saints, had departed from this life to
God; and the impulse to mourn him was shared by all the
churches. But his sister the Teacher was still living; and so I
journeyed to her...
...But when we were in each others
presence the sight of the Teacher
awakened all my pain; for she too was
lying in a state of prostration even unto
death.”
The Complaint
“We hear the departure of the spirit, we see the shell that is left;
but of the part that has been separated we are ignorant...
The Divine utterances seemed to me
like mere commands compelling us to
believe that the soul lasts forever...
Our mind within us appears slavishly
to accept the opinion enforced.”
“ ‘Away’, she cried, ‘with that pagan
nonsense!’”
The Complaint
“What, indeed, has virtue to stand upon in the case of those
persons who conceive of this present life a the limit of their
existence, and hope for nothing
beyond?”
Method Limits Understanding
“...I hear that Epicurus carried his thoughts in this very direction.
The framework of things to his mind a fortuitous and mechanical
affair...
...he thought that human life was like a bubble, existing only as
long as the breath within was held in...
To him the visible was the limit of existence; he made our senses
the only means of our apprehension of things...
...just as a man, who is imprisoned in a cabin whose walls and
roof obstruct the view outside, remains without a glimpse of all
the wonders of the sky.”
Creation Points to a Creator
“While the sight of a garment suggests to any one the weaver of
it, and the thought of the shipwright comes at the sight of the
ship... these little souls gaze upon the world, but their eyes are
blind to Him whom all this that we see around us makes manifest.
...the very heavens, as the Prophet says, declare the glory of God
with their unutterable words. We see the universal harmony in
the wondrous sky and on the wondrous earth...
...a Divine power, working with skill and method, is manifesting
itself in this actual world... and encompasses this universe with a
single all-controlling force...”
Man is a Microcosm
“She replied: It has been said by
wise men that man is a little world
in himself and contains all the
elements which go to complete the
universe.”
Definition of Soul
“What then, I asked, is the soul?”
“The soul is an essence created, and living, and intellectual,
transmitting from itself to an organized and sentient body the
power of living and of grasping objects of sense, as long as a
natural constitution capable of this holds together.”
1. It is a separate Essence,
2. It is the Mind, (an intellectual essence)
3. it enlivens the body,
“...the work of an intellectual essence deeply seated in our nature,
acting through the operation of our bodily senses.”
1. Proof of the Mind
“Suppose, I say, we were to affirm that all this was produced as
well in the organic machine of our natural bodies, without any
mixture of a special thinking substance, but owing simply to an
inherent motive power of the elements...?”
“...there being something in man whereby he shows an innate
fitness to think out within himself...
...to produce any sound there is need of some wind...
...there is no vacuum at all in the world...
It is by an abuse of language that a jar is said to be ‘empty’...”
1. Proof of the Mind
“Is it not clearly proved by such visible results that there is a
mind of some kind in man,
...something other than that which is visible, which, by virtue of
an invisible thinking nature of its own, first prepares by inward
invention of such devices, and then, when they have been so
matured, brings them to light and exhibits them in the subservient
matter?”
(Otherwise) “we should have these mechanisms building
themselves spontaneously.”
1. Proof of the Mind
“For sure, the holy grail of science is to find consciousness in the
brain, but trust me, it would have been found by now if there
were such a thing to find.”
“…our smoothly flowing consciousness is itself an illusion.”
Michael Gazzaniga,
“Father of Cognitive Neuroscience”
“…consciousness is not a thing. It is the
result of a process…”
1. Proof of the Mind
“It is not that which our senses perceive, neither a color, nor a
form, nor a hardness, nor a weight, not a quantity, nor a cubic
dimension… there does exist a something beyond all these.”
“…when it comes to saying that the thing is none of them, our
feebleness of mind induces us to suppose that it does not exist at
all.”
The Soul is “Like” God
“If all that is not cognizable by sense is to be wiped out of
existence, the all-embracing Power that presides over things is
admitted by this same assertion not to be… the non-material and
invisible nature of the Deity, he must perforce with such a
premise reckon it as absolutely non-existent.
…the one is like the other.
…where we have “A” in that uncreated prototype we have an “a”
in the image.”
“...I hear that Epicurus carried his thoughts in this very direction.
The framework of things to his mind a fortuitous and mechanical
affair...”
...he thought that human life was like a bubble…”
“The current state of the mind/body problem rests on two
plausible yet seemingly incompatible propositions: (1) Some
form of materialism or physicalism is true. (2) Physicalism
cannot explain phenomenal consciousness, raw feel, or qualia.”
2. The Soul is a Vivifying Force
“…while the framework of the body still holds together, each
individual part is possessed of a soul which penetrates equally
every component member…
…it transmits life to all…”
3. The Soul Continues
“…For it does not follow that because the composite is dissolved
that incomposite must be dissolved with it.
…but once these atoms are separated from each other, and have
gone whither their nature impels them, what is to become of the
soul when her vessel is thus scattered in many directions?”
The Soul’s Presence
“…(as) a nature which is formless and bodiless it is present with
the body equally in the contribution and in the diffusion of its
atoms.
…There is nothing, then, to hinder the soul’s presence in the
body’s atoms, whether fused in union or decomposed in
dissolution.
…Therefore the soul exists in the actual atoms which she has
once animated.”
The Soul’s Presence
“…either anger and desire are both second souls in us, and a
plurality of souls must take the place of the single soul, or the
thinking faculty in us cannot be regarded as a soul either…
(if they are not), the intellectual element adhering equally to all
of them and stamping them all as souls, or else excluding every
one of them equally from the specific qualities of soul.”
Scripture as the Rule
“…we make Holy Scripture the rule and the measure of every
tenet.
…and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize with
the intention of those writings. We must therefore neglect the
Platonic chariot…
…follow the chain of Scriptural tradition.”
The Soul’s Presence
What of Anger?
“…just as this nature has the instinct acquisitive of the necessities
to material existence – an instinct which, when manifested in us
men, we call Appetite… to them belongs anger; to them belongs
fear...
…everything except the faculty of reason and thought. That
alone, the choice product, as has been said, of all our life, bears
the stamp of the Divine character.”
God’s Presence
“…the Divine being, as our argument has shown, though
distinctly something other than visible and material substances,
nevertheless pervades each one amongst all existences, and by
this penetration of the whole keeps the world in a state of being.”
On the Resurrection
The Teacher describes a possible Criticism:
“For if the identical individual particle does not return and only
something that is homogeneous but not identical is fetched, you
will have something else in the place of that first thing, and such
a process will cease to be a resurrection and will be merely the
creation of a new man.
But if the same man is to return into himself, he must be the same
entirely, and regain his original formation in every single atom of
his elements.”
On the Resurrection
The Teacher answers:
The soul “remains after dissolution in those very atoms in which
she first grew up, and, like a guardian placed over private
property, does not abandon them when they are mingled with
their kindred atoms…”
The Soul is not restricted by Space.
But…
Doesn't our body replace all its cells every seven years or so?
On Ghosts and Phantoms
“…the assertion made by some persons that around their graves
shadowy phantoms of the departed are often seen. If this is really
so, an inordinate attachment of that particular soul to the life in
the flesh is proved to have existed, causing it to be unwilling,
even when expelled from the flesh, to fly clean away…
…it remains near the frame even after the dissolution of the
frame, and though now outside of it, hovers regretfully over the
place where its material is, and continues to haunt it.”
Where does the Soul come from?
“The previous question was, - If some souls exist anterior to their
bodies, when and how do they come into existence?
…the point of commencement of the existence is one and the
same for body and soul.”
Macrina believes that the idea of the Soul’s Pre-existence is a
“fantastic teaching” (i.e. not reasonable).
On the Resurrection
“Is the state which we are to expect to be like the present state of
the body?”
“We will say that the Resurrection is ‘the reconstruction of our
nature in its original form’. But in that form of life, of which
God Himself was the Creator.
…passionless blessedness, it will no longer encounter the
inevitable results of evil tendencies.”
On the Resurrection
“…to be in God Himself.
The Divine power, in the superabundance of Omnipotence, does
not only restore you that body once dissolved, but makes great
and splendid additions to it… it is raised in incorruption.
…the re-construction of our nature in its original form.
…all that blessed state which arises for us by means of the
Resurrection is only a return to our pristine state of grace.”
On the Resurrection
“Just as if a man, who, clad in a ragged tunic, has divested
himself of the garb, feel no more its disgrace upon him, so we
too, when we have cast off that dead unsightly tunic made from
the skins of brutes … fling from us all the belongings that were
round us of that skin of a brute…”
Our bodies will be healed, becoming more angelic.
No more sex, birth, growth, impurities, aging, disease, death…
On the Resurrection
“…we are born again in our original splendor…”
Summary
The Soul is…
1. An Essence,
2. Equated with the Mind,
3. It enlivens the body.
4. There is a “Likeness” to God.
Summary
The Body is, and will be…
1. God’s good creation,
2. A new creation of the old creation,
3. Nothing is to be lost.
Summary
Body and Soul are intended to be together for
eternity. The body is God’s good creation.
Not
“Soma Sema”
(The body equals tomb)
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9. macrina, the soul and the resurrection

  • 1. Macrina, the Soul and the Resurrection (324-379)
  • 2.
  • 3. Macrina The Younger Life A Family of Saints Death of Father and Fiancé Vow of Celibacy Caring for Mom
  • 4. Macrina The Younger “The Teacher” The Education of Peter “She became everything for the child (Peter), father, teacher, guide, mother, counselor in every good, and she perfected him...”
  • 5. Macrina The Younger “The Teacher” The Education of Peter The Education of Gregory “...she was lifted up by her discourse and spoke to me of her philosophy of the soul; how she explained the reason for life in the flesh, for what purpose man exists, how he is mortal, what is the source of death and what release there is from death back to life again. On all of these subjects, as if inspired by the Holy Spirit, she explained everything clearly and logically, her speech flowing with complete ease...”
  • 6. Macrina The Younger “The Teacher” The Education of Peter The Education of Gregory The Education of Basil When he returned from Athens, “he was monstrously conceited”.
  • 7. Macrina The Younger “The Teacher” The Education of Peter The Education of Gregory The Education of Basil “The Christian Socrates”
  • 8. Macrina The Younger Plantation to Monastery “...put herself on an equal footing with the community of maidens, so as to share on equal terms with them one table, bed and all the needs of life, with every difference of rank eliminated from their lives.”
  • 9. Macrina The Younger Famine “...because of the throng of visitors, the wilderness looked like a city.”
  • 10. Macrina The Younger Wonderworker “If you do me the favor of sharing our table with us, I will give you in return as reward to match your courtesy.”
  • 11. Macrina The Younger The Life of Saint Macrina “...it was a woman who prompted our narrative, if, that is, we may call her a woman, for I do not know if it is appropriate to apply a name drawn from nature to one who has risen above nature.”
  • 12. Gregory of Nyssa (335-394) Family Education Marriage? Theosebia the Deaconess Bishop at Nyssa Council of Ancyra (375) Death of Macrina (379) Council of Constantinople (381)
  • 13. “ ‘I got me slave-girls and slaves.’ For what price, tell me? What did you find in existence worth as much as this human nature? What price did you put on rationality? How many obols did you reckon the equivalent of the likeness of God? How many staters did you get for selling that being shaped by God? God said, Let us make man in our own image and likeness. If he is in the likeness of God, and rules the whole earth, and has been granted authority over everything on earth from God, who is his buyer, tell me? Who is his seller?”
  • 14. Gregory of Nyssa (335-394) The Life of Moses Against Eunomius On the Holy Spirit On the Holy Trinity The Life of Saint Macrina On the Soul and the Resurrection Many More...
  • 15. “For Gregory distinctions of sex are irrelevant to the life one lives in God and will in fact disappear in heaven.” Kevin Corrigan Gregory of Nyssa (335-394)
  • 16. On the Soul and the Resurrection Issues... A Woman as “The Teacher”. Who gets credit? The Nature of the Soul. The Nature of the Resurrection. Christian Universalism.
  • 17. The Setting “Basil, great amongst the saints, had departed from this life to God; and the impulse to mourn him was shared by all the churches. But his sister the Teacher was still living; and so I journeyed to her... ...But when we were in each others presence the sight of the Teacher awakened all my pain; for she too was lying in a state of prostration even unto death.”
  • 18. The Complaint “We hear the departure of the spirit, we see the shell that is left; but of the part that has been separated we are ignorant... The Divine utterances seemed to me like mere commands compelling us to believe that the soul lasts forever... Our mind within us appears slavishly to accept the opinion enforced.” “ ‘Away’, she cried, ‘with that pagan nonsense!’”
  • 19. The Complaint “What, indeed, has virtue to stand upon in the case of those persons who conceive of this present life a the limit of their existence, and hope for nothing beyond?”
  • 20. Method Limits Understanding “...I hear that Epicurus carried his thoughts in this very direction. The framework of things to his mind a fortuitous and mechanical affair... ...he thought that human life was like a bubble, existing only as long as the breath within was held in... To him the visible was the limit of existence; he made our senses the only means of our apprehension of things... ...just as a man, who is imprisoned in a cabin whose walls and roof obstruct the view outside, remains without a glimpse of all the wonders of the sky.”
  • 21. Creation Points to a Creator “While the sight of a garment suggests to any one the weaver of it, and the thought of the shipwright comes at the sight of the ship... these little souls gaze upon the world, but their eyes are blind to Him whom all this that we see around us makes manifest. ...the very heavens, as the Prophet says, declare the glory of God with their unutterable words. We see the universal harmony in the wondrous sky and on the wondrous earth... ...a Divine power, working with skill and method, is manifesting itself in this actual world... and encompasses this universe with a single all-controlling force...”
  • 22. Man is a Microcosm “She replied: It has been said by wise men that man is a little world in himself and contains all the elements which go to complete the universe.”
  • 23. Definition of Soul “What then, I asked, is the soul?” “The soul is an essence created, and living, and intellectual, transmitting from itself to an organized and sentient body the power of living and of grasping objects of sense, as long as a natural constitution capable of this holds together.” 1. It is a separate Essence, 2. It is the Mind, (an intellectual essence) 3. it enlivens the body, “...the work of an intellectual essence deeply seated in our nature, acting through the operation of our bodily senses.”
  • 24. 1. Proof of the Mind “Suppose, I say, we were to affirm that all this was produced as well in the organic machine of our natural bodies, without any mixture of a special thinking substance, but owing simply to an inherent motive power of the elements...?” “...there being something in man whereby he shows an innate fitness to think out within himself... ...to produce any sound there is need of some wind... ...there is no vacuum at all in the world... It is by an abuse of language that a jar is said to be ‘empty’...”
  • 25. 1. Proof of the Mind “Is it not clearly proved by such visible results that there is a mind of some kind in man, ...something other than that which is visible, which, by virtue of an invisible thinking nature of its own, first prepares by inward invention of such devices, and then, when they have been so matured, brings them to light and exhibits them in the subservient matter?” (Otherwise) “we should have these mechanisms building themselves spontaneously.”
  • 26. 1. Proof of the Mind “For sure, the holy grail of science is to find consciousness in the brain, but trust me, it would have been found by now if there were such a thing to find.” “…our smoothly flowing consciousness is itself an illusion.” Michael Gazzaniga, “Father of Cognitive Neuroscience” “…consciousness is not a thing. It is the result of a process…”
  • 27. 1. Proof of the Mind “It is not that which our senses perceive, neither a color, nor a form, nor a hardness, nor a weight, not a quantity, nor a cubic dimension… there does exist a something beyond all these.” “…when it comes to saying that the thing is none of them, our feebleness of mind induces us to suppose that it does not exist at all.”
  • 28. The Soul is “Like” God “If all that is not cognizable by sense is to be wiped out of existence, the all-embracing Power that presides over things is admitted by this same assertion not to be… the non-material and invisible nature of the Deity, he must perforce with such a premise reckon it as absolutely non-existent. …the one is like the other. …where we have “A” in that uncreated prototype we have an “a” in the image.”
  • 29. “...I hear that Epicurus carried his thoughts in this very direction. The framework of things to his mind a fortuitous and mechanical affair...” ...he thought that human life was like a bubble…”
  • 30. “The current state of the mind/body problem rests on two plausible yet seemingly incompatible propositions: (1) Some form of materialism or physicalism is true. (2) Physicalism cannot explain phenomenal consciousness, raw feel, or qualia.”
  • 31. 2. The Soul is a Vivifying Force “…while the framework of the body still holds together, each individual part is possessed of a soul which penetrates equally every component member… …it transmits life to all…”
  • 32. 3. The Soul Continues “…For it does not follow that because the composite is dissolved that incomposite must be dissolved with it. …but once these atoms are separated from each other, and have gone whither their nature impels them, what is to become of the soul when her vessel is thus scattered in many directions?”
  • 33. The Soul’s Presence “…(as) a nature which is formless and bodiless it is present with the body equally in the contribution and in the diffusion of its atoms. …There is nothing, then, to hinder the soul’s presence in the body’s atoms, whether fused in union or decomposed in dissolution. …Therefore the soul exists in the actual atoms which she has once animated.”
  • 34. The Soul’s Presence “…either anger and desire are both second souls in us, and a plurality of souls must take the place of the single soul, or the thinking faculty in us cannot be regarded as a soul either… (if they are not), the intellectual element adhering equally to all of them and stamping them all as souls, or else excluding every one of them equally from the specific qualities of soul.”
  • 35. Scripture as the Rule “…we make Holy Scripture the rule and the measure of every tenet. …and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize with the intention of those writings. We must therefore neglect the Platonic chariot… …follow the chain of Scriptural tradition.”
  • 36. The Soul’s Presence What of Anger? “…just as this nature has the instinct acquisitive of the necessities to material existence – an instinct which, when manifested in us men, we call Appetite… to them belongs anger; to them belongs fear... …everything except the faculty of reason and thought. That alone, the choice product, as has been said, of all our life, bears the stamp of the Divine character.”
  • 37. God’s Presence “…the Divine being, as our argument has shown, though distinctly something other than visible and material substances, nevertheless pervades each one amongst all existences, and by this penetration of the whole keeps the world in a state of being.”
  • 38. On the Resurrection The Teacher describes a possible Criticism: “For if the identical individual particle does not return and only something that is homogeneous but not identical is fetched, you will have something else in the place of that first thing, and such a process will cease to be a resurrection and will be merely the creation of a new man. But if the same man is to return into himself, he must be the same entirely, and regain his original formation in every single atom of his elements.”
  • 39. On the Resurrection The Teacher answers: The soul “remains after dissolution in those very atoms in which she first grew up, and, like a guardian placed over private property, does not abandon them when they are mingled with their kindred atoms…” The Soul is not restricted by Space.
  • 40. But… Doesn't our body replace all its cells every seven years or so?
  • 41. On Ghosts and Phantoms “…the assertion made by some persons that around their graves shadowy phantoms of the departed are often seen. If this is really so, an inordinate attachment of that particular soul to the life in the flesh is proved to have existed, causing it to be unwilling, even when expelled from the flesh, to fly clean away… …it remains near the frame even after the dissolution of the frame, and though now outside of it, hovers regretfully over the place where its material is, and continues to haunt it.”
  • 42. Where does the Soul come from? “The previous question was, - If some souls exist anterior to their bodies, when and how do they come into existence? …the point of commencement of the existence is one and the same for body and soul.” Macrina believes that the idea of the Soul’s Pre-existence is a “fantastic teaching” (i.e. not reasonable).
  • 43. On the Resurrection “Is the state which we are to expect to be like the present state of the body?” “We will say that the Resurrection is ‘the reconstruction of our nature in its original form’. But in that form of life, of which God Himself was the Creator. …passionless blessedness, it will no longer encounter the inevitable results of evil tendencies.”
  • 44. On the Resurrection “…to be in God Himself. The Divine power, in the superabundance of Omnipotence, does not only restore you that body once dissolved, but makes great and splendid additions to it… it is raised in incorruption. …the re-construction of our nature in its original form. …all that blessed state which arises for us by means of the Resurrection is only a return to our pristine state of grace.”
  • 45. On the Resurrection “Just as if a man, who, clad in a ragged tunic, has divested himself of the garb, feel no more its disgrace upon him, so we too, when we have cast off that dead unsightly tunic made from the skins of brutes … fling from us all the belongings that were round us of that skin of a brute…” Our bodies will be healed, becoming more angelic. No more sex, birth, growth, impurities, aging, disease, death…
  • 46. On the Resurrection “…we are born again in our original splendor…”
  • 47. Summary The Soul is… 1. An Essence, 2. Equated with the Mind, 3. It enlivens the body. 4. There is a “Likeness” to God.
  • 48. Summary The Body is, and will be… 1. God’s good creation, 2. A new creation of the old creation, 3. Nothing is to be lost.
  • 49. Summary Body and Soul are intended to be together for eternity. The body is God’s good creation. Not “Soma Sema” (The body equals tomb)

Editor's Notes

  1. Known as “The Christian Socrates”
  2. Emmelia (Mom), Basil the Elder (Dad),Marcina the Elder (Grandma) Macrina the Younger (sister), Naukratios of Mount Nitria (brother) Gregory of Nyssa (brother), Basil, and Peter of Sebaste (brother) Also, 4-5 unnamed sisters who married. Also, St. Theosevia (youngest sister or Greg’s wife) Grandpa died a martyr.
  3. Secretly named Thecla. Her fiancé died (she was 12), and she then dedicated herself to Christ. Her father dies, she becomes the Backbone (Center) of the family. Cared for Mom with her own hands, w/o slave.
  4. Teacher: focused on Scripture, not classics (GK) Quotes from VSM.
  5. To Gregory (4 years younger) she was “The Teacher”.
  6. To Basil (he was younger), she corrected and guided him when he came home educated “monstrously conceited” (VSM) Pushed him towards service to Christ. She was The Boss!
  7. After Dad’s death M convinces everyone to hold all in common. Freeing the slaves (thousands).
  8. Feeding during famine (must have looked like a refugee camp).
  9. Greg writes of her healing a child with eye disease.
  10. NOTE: Rising above Nature All are equal, or will be equal.
  11. Said to be a Quiet man, not a great Administer, unlike Basil. Educated in Caesarea in Classic literature, philosophy, and medicine. 375: Trial over misuse of funds and ordination practices. Disposed, but returned. Mysticism, Trinitarian, Universal Salvation, Apophatic Theology…
  12. Possible the earliest Anti-Slavery Claim. Homilies on Ecclesiastes Obols & staters (coins) *Romans 11:29
  13. Letters and Commentaries He was not as highly regarded in his day as were Basil and Gregory Nazianzus. Over the centuries he would become appreciated.
  14. KC, translator of VSM, p. 17 Greg was possibly married to Theosebia, a deaconess.
  15. Universal Salvation Basil does not appear to agree, but this issue did not split the Church or Christians.
  16. Gregory begins…
  17. Gregory begins… We begin with Gregory’s (literary) doubt. Are we to believe on faith alone, where is the verification, the “reasonable faith”?
  18. What happens to ethics if there is not reward / punishment in the afterlife? If there is no God is everything permissible? (Dostoevsky)
  19. Epicurus’ Method limits his view and understanding. This is still a valid critique of Modern Materialists. Empiricism has its limits. Science turns into Scientism
  20. The clock and clock maker analogy. (computer) She lists stars, eclipses, planets, rain, growth, There is a Direction in creation (evolution), from puddle of slime to Beethoven's music. The Divine Power, the Logos (Word).
  21. Man is a Microcosm. Created in the Image of God, but From the Earth. We are “Stardust”, we are “Golden”, we are the Mediating Species.
  22. Platonic She points to the physician sitting nearby, by his observations his mind (soul) understands her illness. Our senses provide observations, but our mind (soul) interprets (sees) beyond. p. 434
  23. Proof of the Mind becomes proof of the Soul. We are Thinking Things. This may not satisfy modern Materialists. Macrina lived long before Evolution, thus Spontaneous Generation would be the only possibility.
  24. There is a Mind behind invention and production. “These mechanisms”: i.e. musical instruments… technology. Technology is the result of the Mind, not Nature. The music of Beethoven did not write itself. The mind is far more than what is needed for our species to survive. MG P. 434
  25. p. 134; p. 207; p. 106 There is more to consciousness than is needed for survival. Is consciousness no ore than a happy (or sad) accident?
  26. The mind/soul is not material.
  27. If there is no God, then what of the Mind? It is a accident, an unnecessary thing. The argument for the existence of the Soul is like Apologetic for the existence of God. Gazzaniga is a devout materialist, the Desktop”.
  28. Like a Bubble! Similar to G-Man here! E: We are like bubbles, G: Consciousness is like bubbles.
  29. Second point: The soul enlivens the material.
  30. Second point: The soul enlivens the material.
  31. Atoms = Smallest Particles.
  32. Is there a Good soul and a Bad soul within us? Are there many souls within us? Multiple personalities?
  33. Though she would be considered Platonic, she is critical of Platonic thinking. American Christians are very Materialistic in thinking, i.e. Nature is dead, no spiritual side of Nature. What does it mean to be Biblical? Is it, the “Bible and only the Bible”? Or, what “fits” with the Bible?
  34. Not Two or more souls, but, one soul needs to rule over the physical appetites.
  35. Don’t forget, We are a Microcosm! God is Immanent in all Creation, like the Soul is immanent in the body. Similar to “The Force” of Star Wars. Also, the Gnostic phrase: “Split the log and I am there”. As God is to Creation, our Soul is to the physical body.
  36. IF you rebuild the body out of similar but different substances then it is not the same person. It’s not the same house if it is rebuilt our of different lumber.
  37. The soul is not restricted by Space.
  38. Our bodies are continuously rebuilding, reproducing, and repairing. The Idea may still be valid, DNA information. We are what we are including our bodies. We are not a machine made of many parts, we are a Nephesh (Soul), Living Beings.
  39. Out of Body experiences! Somthing Materialists tend to ignore.
  40. She does not agree with Origen’s speculation of Pre-existence of the Soul.
  41. This is the New Creation of the Old Creation.
  42. Similar to many other ancient Christian teachers, i.e. Augustine. Free from change, from being controlled, like the angels above, distanced from “animal like traits”. No more Pooping either. For Origin the “skins” were the body, for Macrina the “skins” are our damaged bodies.
  43. The body is God’s good creation