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Payment by Results
Paul Harper
Director of Finance, IT & Resources
National Autistic society
Who is Paul Harper
• Been Director of Finance, IT & Resources at National
Autistic Society for 3 years
• Responsible for Finance, Contracts, Property, IT,
Procurement and Pensions
• Previously worked at Chatham Historic Dockyard Trust
• University for Creative Arts
• 10 years at BBC mainly in World Service (EurAsia)
• 12 years in Local Government
• 5 years National Audit Office
• Trustee at Sutton Community Voluntary Services Centre
• Trustee for Fant Wildlife (Maidstone, Kent)
Payment by Results (PbR)
My approach to this subject is from the
viewpoint of someone unfamiliar with it, so this
is presented as a journey into what is Payment
By Results and then what are some of the
issues to be aware of.
What is Payment by Results
• Payments by Results is where a provider is
contracted to deliver a service to achieve
desired outcomes.
• The method to achieve the outcomes is the
responsibility of the provider
• Payment is in arrears and is either fully based on
the achievement of the outcomes or a mixture
with a large element based on the outcomes.
Case for Payment by Results
• The case for public sector, mainly Government
PbR is as a response to Austerity
• There is a need to provide public services
cheaper and for less money
• In theory move control from providers to
customers and bureaucrats to entrepreneurs –
KPMG 2010 Study ‘Payment for Services’
Features of Payment by Results
• Requires move away from input measurements
to outputs measurements
• Harnessing the profit motive is the key driver for
companies and privatisation of public services
• Allowing private investment into public services
• Payment Metric, outputs required by
commissioner to get payment
• Use of Social Impact Bonds
Growth of Payments by Results
• Central Government
– Work Programme
– The Youth Contract
– The Innovation Fund
– Education, training and custodial services
– Substance misuse
– Families with multiple problems
• Local Authorities
Examples of Government
Payment by Results
• Criminal – Prevention of Reoffending
• The Work Programme
• NHS Internal Market
• Cash on Delivery in Foreign Aid (results based
aid)
Types of Government Scheme
The Government has set up 3 types of scheme
1.Peterborough/ Social Impact Bonds
2.Prime Provider
3.NHS Internal Market
• Various Central Government Departments are
now running PbR schemes including, Health,
Work &Pensions, Justice and Communities
&Local Government.
Peterborough Prison Project
• Project funded by Social Impact Bonds
• If outcomes delivered investors get a return
based on the savings to the Treasury
• Problem is that it is likely to work with better with
offenders who are more motivated to avoid
reoffending
Prime Provider Model
• The Work Programme delivered by 40 contracts
held by prime contractors in 18 geographical
areas
• Job Payment Outcomes payments after
participant in work for 13 or 26 weeks, once in
sustained work payment every 4 weeks.
• People grouped into categories with higher
payments for individuals in hardest to help
categories
Prime Provider Model cont.
• Need for Prime Providers to have initial working
capital to fund scheme in advance of payment.
• Currently 15 Prime Providers = Private
Companies, 1 = Public Sector, 2 = Voluntary/
Community Organisations
• Cashflow + Financial Risk can be a deterrent to
Charities with relevant experience
Prime Provider Model cont.
• Tier 1+Tier 2 subcontractors limited referrals to
Tier 2 specialist providers
• ESA (Employment & Support allowance)
claimants limited avoiding specialist provision
• Creaming and Parking Issues
• PbR contracts have discouraged prime
contractors from investing upfront for vulnerable
clients.
NHS PbR
• Market generated by fixed national price for
each patient treated irrespective of outcome.
• “Money follows Patient”
• 30% of NHS expenditure in England £29bn
2011/12 through PbR & 50% of NHS acute
hospital care.
• Supports privatisation of NHS
• NHS PbR more suited to elective care not a one
solution for all approach
Kings Fund Nov 2012
What are Social Impact Bonds?
Source Social Finance: socialfinance.org.uk
Funding Social Investment Bonds
• Peterborough Scheme
• Different to standard Charity Bonds
• Public bodies pay third sector for measurable
results. Once terms agreed, charities use
contract to attract project funding from investors,
if project succeeds the investors profit, if it fails
they lose. Bond holders are expected to take all
the risk but will make a return on their
investment if the intervention is successful.
Funding Social Investment Bonds cont.
• At Peterborough the bond works in that if the
scheme is successful the investors will receive a
payment representing a % of the cost of
reoffending., the payment will increase based on
the reduction on reoffending with the total cost
capped at £8m for an initial £5m investment.
Are Social Impact Bonds always
appropriate?
• Social Impact Bonds (SIB) are best suited when
there is an easily measurable outcome which is
clear to interpretation, and also only one
stakeholder
• They are not suited to a situation like the NAS
where the result of our intervention leads to
reduction in costs of social care, NHS mental
health services, the criminal justice system,
education services etc. thus they do not work
where there would be multiple clients.
Subcontracting and PbR
• Third Sector often a subcontractor.
• Prime Contractors may pass down their risk to
subcontractors
• Prime Contractors may impose terms on sub
contractors that they are not subject to eg
payment being conditional on the contractor
being initially paid by the commissioner
• Good practice is to avoid the above, and
evidence that in considerable cases this is the
position
Partnership Working
• A way in for the third sector is by partnership
working between organisations
• Can have a lead and subcontractor relationship
• Can set up a joint venture
• Can do in a partnership arrangements
• Clarity on risk sharing and management needed
• Brings strengths, and better specialisms
• Collaboration brings economies of scale
London Rough Sleepers Project
• Run by St Mungo’s Trust on behalf of the
Greater London Authority
• Aim to get 400 people off streets over 3 years
• Cost about £2.4m
• Outcome targets
– Sustained accommodation
– Reduced A&E visits
– Return to paid or voluntary work
• Initial bond for working capital of £650k raised
Opportunities for improving
outcomes for children
• Essex County Council Social Impact Bond for
young people on the edge of care
• The cost of a child in care is up to £78k a year.
The cost of Multi Systemic Therapy (MST) to
prevent a child going into care is £1500 a child
• A SIB could raise the money to fund MST and
be funded by the Councils long term savings
Other Examples Include
• Sure Start Children’s Centre
• Adoption Bonds a third sector non statutory
scheme
• Triodos New Horizons Project in Manchester
• ThinkForward Social Impact in Tower Hamlets
• 3SC Capitalise on South Wales
• Government Youth Contract
• Increasing pilots in Housing Related Support
• Kent Drug & Alcohol Action
Fundamental Concern with PbR
An article on the Guardian Professional website has argued
that a pre-occupation with outcomes can worsen a service:
“payment by results does not reward organisations for
supporting people to achieve what they need; it rewards
organisations for producing data about targets; it rewards
organisations for the fictions their staff are able to invent
about what they have achieved; it pays people for porkies.
(...)
There's a growing momentum behind the understanding
that outcomes-based performance management in general
– and payment by results, in particular – is dangerous
idiocy. It makes good people do the wrong things, and then
forces them to lie about it.”
Issues with PbR.
• Public sector contracts beware of EU procurement
requirements
• Impact on Market, PbR may drive out smaller local
providers, in favour of national companies
• Principles increasingly also relate to LA “grants” which
are becoming increasingly more output based on
measurement. Failure to have an outcomes framework
and method of assessment may limit future funding.
• Volume Guarantee, to tender you may want a guarantee
but PbR will not provide this
• Danger charities bid for contracts to continue to serve
core user groups
• Allow sufficient time and resources in preparing a tender
Issues with PbR cont.
• Intention of PbR not always clear & is just used as an
inappropriate payment mechanism for current services,
rather than being designed to improve outcomes.
• NCVO “Many services don’t easily have definable or final
results.”
• Many services don’t have positive outcomes, but are
designed to limit negative conditions, social isolation and
injustice.
• PbR requires the Commissioner to “let go” and have
reduced control/ influence of service delivery.
• PbR commissioners can be linear in view and fail to
recognised that a positive intervention may have many
impacts, not reflected in contract
Issues with PbR cont.
• Poor evaluation and monitoring mechanisms/ dispute
resolution
• Ability of Commissioner to be able to amend contracts
and change specification unilaterally “or such additional /
alternative requirements as the Commissioners may
impose from time to time”
• Is there an ability for provider to terminate with notice
Issues with PbR cont.
• Cashflow – cash is king
• Start up costs need to be subsidised
• Impact of Cash issues means that PbR is endangering
third sector involvement compared to big companies and
private sector
• Reserves – Do you have sufficient reserves to cover
contract risks
• Payment metrics
– Payments attaching too many targets
– Payment targets that are beyond providers control
– Payments being able to be unreasonably deferred
• Payments in Arrears, although now more schemes are
split with a core contract payment of between 67% and
80% and an element depending on the success of the
services of between 20% and 33%
Issues with PbR cont.
• Shift of Risk from public sector to provider
• Risk appetite both financial, reputation, service and
governance
• TUPE/ Pension Implications – sort out asap
• Flexible Workforce
• Fixed term re permanent jobs
Thank You for Listening
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3C – PAYMENT BY RESULTS

  • 1. Payment by Results Paul Harper Director of Finance, IT & Resources National Autistic society
  • 2. Who is Paul Harper • Been Director of Finance, IT & Resources at National Autistic Society for 3 years • Responsible for Finance, Contracts, Property, IT, Procurement and Pensions • Previously worked at Chatham Historic Dockyard Trust • University for Creative Arts • 10 years at BBC mainly in World Service (EurAsia) • 12 years in Local Government • 5 years National Audit Office • Trustee at Sutton Community Voluntary Services Centre • Trustee for Fant Wildlife (Maidstone, Kent)
  • 3. Payment by Results (PbR) My approach to this subject is from the viewpoint of someone unfamiliar with it, so this is presented as a journey into what is Payment By Results and then what are some of the issues to be aware of.
  • 4. What is Payment by Results • Payments by Results is where a provider is contracted to deliver a service to achieve desired outcomes. • The method to achieve the outcomes is the responsibility of the provider • Payment is in arrears and is either fully based on the achievement of the outcomes or a mixture with a large element based on the outcomes.
  • 5. Case for Payment by Results • The case for public sector, mainly Government PbR is as a response to Austerity • There is a need to provide public services cheaper and for less money • In theory move control from providers to customers and bureaucrats to entrepreneurs – KPMG 2010 Study ‘Payment for Services’
  • 6. Features of Payment by Results • Requires move away from input measurements to outputs measurements • Harnessing the profit motive is the key driver for companies and privatisation of public services • Allowing private investment into public services • Payment Metric, outputs required by commissioner to get payment • Use of Social Impact Bonds
  • 7. Growth of Payments by Results • Central Government – Work Programme – The Youth Contract – The Innovation Fund – Education, training and custodial services – Substance misuse – Families with multiple problems • Local Authorities
  • 8. Examples of Government Payment by Results • Criminal – Prevention of Reoffending • The Work Programme • NHS Internal Market • Cash on Delivery in Foreign Aid (results based aid)
  • 9. Types of Government Scheme The Government has set up 3 types of scheme 1.Peterborough/ Social Impact Bonds 2.Prime Provider 3.NHS Internal Market • Various Central Government Departments are now running PbR schemes including, Health, Work &Pensions, Justice and Communities &Local Government.
  • 10. Peterborough Prison Project • Project funded by Social Impact Bonds • If outcomes delivered investors get a return based on the savings to the Treasury • Problem is that it is likely to work with better with offenders who are more motivated to avoid reoffending
  • 11. Prime Provider Model • The Work Programme delivered by 40 contracts held by prime contractors in 18 geographical areas • Job Payment Outcomes payments after participant in work for 13 or 26 weeks, once in sustained work payment every 4 weeks. • People grouped into categories with higher payments for individuals in hardest to help categories
  • 12. Prime Provider Model cont. • Need for Prime Providers to have initial working capital to fund scheme in advance of payment. • Currently 15 Prime Providers = Private Companies, 1 = Public Sector, 2 = Voluntary/ Community Organisations • Cashflow + Financial Risk can be a deterrent to Charities with relevant experience
  • 13. Prime Provider Model cont. • Tier 1+Tier 2 subcontractors limited referrals to Tier 2 specialist providers • ESA (Employment & Support allowance) claimants limited avoiding specialist provision • Creaming and Parking Issues • PbR contracts have discouraged prime contractors from investing upfront for vulnerable clients.
  • 14. NHS PbR • Market generated by fixed national price for each patient treated irrespective of outcome. • “Money follows Patient” • 30% of NHS expenditure in England £29bn 2011/12 through PbR & 50% of NHS acute hospital care. • Supports privatisation of NHS • NHS PbR more suited to elective care not a one solution for all approach Kings Fund Nov 2012
  • 15. What are Social Impact Bonds? Source Social Finance: socialfinance.org.uk
  • 16. Funding Social Investment Bonds • Peterborough Scheme • Different to standard Charity Bonds • Public bodies pay third sector for measurable results. Once terms agreed, charities use contract to attract project funding from investors, if project succeeds the investors profit, if it fails they lose. Bond holders are expected to take all the risk but will make a return on their investment if the intervention is successful.
  • 17. Funding Social Investment Bonds cont. • At Peterborough the bond works in that if the scheme is successful the investors will receive a payment representing a % of the cost of reoffending., the payment will increase based on the reduction on reoffending with the total cost capped at £8m for an initial £5m investment.
  • 18. Are Social Impact Bonds always appropriate? • Social Impact Bonds (SIB) are best suited when there is an easily measurable outcome which is clear to interpretation, and also only one stakeholder • They are not suited to a situation like the NAS where the result of our intervention leads to reduction in costs of social care, NHS mental health services, the criminal justice system, education services etc. thus they do not work where there would be multiple clients.
  • 19. Subcontracting and PbR • Third Sector often a subcontractor. • Prime Contractors may pass down their risk to subcontractors • Prime Contractors may impose terms on sub contractors that they are not subject to eg payment being conditional on the contractor being initially paid by the commissioner • Good practice is to avoid the above, and evidence that in considerable cases this is the position
  • 20. Partnership Working • A way in for the third sector is by partnership working between organisations • Can have a lead and subcontractor relationship • Can set up a joint venture • Can do in a partnership arrangements • Clarity on risk sharing and management needed • Brings strengths, and better specialisms • Collaboration brings economies of scale
  • 21. London Rough Sleepers Project • Run by St Mungo’s Trust on behalf of the Greater London Authority • Aim to get 400 people off streets over 3 years • Cost about £2.4m • Outcome targets – Sustained accommodation – Reduced A&E visits – Return to paid or voluntary work • Initial bond for working capital of £650k raised
  • 22. Opportunities for improving outcomes for children • Essex County Council Social Impact Bond for young people on the edge of care • The cost of a child in care is up to £78k a year. The cost of Multi Systemic Therapy (MST) to prevent a child going into care is £1500 a child • A SIB could raise the money to fund MST and be funded by the Councils long term savings
  • 23. Other Examples Include • Sure Start Children’s Centre • Adoption Bonds a third sector non statutory scheme • Triodos New Horizons Project in Manchester • ThinkForward Social Impact in Tower Hamlets • 3SC Capitalise on South Wales • Government Youth Contract • Increasing pilots in Housing Related Support • Kent Drug & Alcohol Action
  • 24. Fundamental Concern with PbR An article on the Guardian Professional website has argued that a pre-occupation with outcomes can worsen a service: “payment by results does not reward organisations for supporting people to achieve what they need; it rewards organisations for producing data about targets; it rewards organisations for the fictions their staff are able to invent about what they have achieved; it pays people for porkies. (...) There's a growing momentum behind the understanding that outcomes-based performance management in general – and payment by results, in particular – is dangerous idiocy. It makes good people do the wrong things, and then forces them to lie about it.”
  • 25. Issues with PbR. • Public sector contracts beware of EU procurement requirements • Impact on Market, PbR may drive out smaller local providers, in favour of national companies • Principles increasingly also relate to LA “grants” which are becoming increasingly more output based on measurement. Failure to have an outcomes framework and method of assessment may limit future funding. • Volume Guarantee, to tender you may want a guarantee but PbR will not provide this • Danger charities bid for contracts to continue to serve core user groups • Allow sufficient time and resources in preparing a tender
  • 26. Issues with PbR cont. • Intention of PbR not always clear & is just used as an inappropriate payment mechanism for current services, rather than being designed to improve outcomes. • NCVO “Many services don’t easily have definable or final results.” • Many services don’t have positive outcomes, but are designed to limit negative conditions, social isolation and injustice. • PbR requires the Commissioner to “let go” and have reduced control/ influence of service delivery. • PbR commissioners can be linear in view and fail to recognised that a positive intervention may have many impacts, not reflected in contract
  • 27. Issues with PbR cont. • Poor evaluation and monitoring mechanisms/ dispute resolution • Ability of Commissioner to be able to amend contracts and change specification unilaterally “or such additional / alternative requirements as the Commissioners may impose from time to time” • Is there an ability for provider to terminate with notice
  • 28. Issues with PbR cont. • Cashflow – cash is king • Start up costs need to be subsidised • Impact of Cash issues means that PbR is endangering third sector involvement compared to big companies and private sector • Reserves – Do you have sufficient reserves to cover contract risks • Payment metrics – Payments attaching too many targets – Payment targets that are beyond providers control – Payments being able to be unreasonably deferred • Payments in Arrears, although now more schemes are split with a core contract payment of between 67% and 80% and an element depending on the success of the services of between 20% and 33%
  • 29. Issues with PbR cont. • Shift of Risk from public sector to provider • Risk appetite both financial, reputation, service and governance • TUPE/ Pension Implications – sort out asap • Flexible Workforce • Fixed term re permanent jobs
  • 30. Thank You for Listening Questions/ Debate