Dana interview coded

1

Jasmin
Santiago,
Mark
Yanoschik,
Cody
Phillips

Transcripts

Interview
with
Dana*

C-‐
Cody

J-‐
Jasmin

M-‐
Mark

D-‐
Dana
(Christina)

Cody:
So
our
first
questions,
a,
is
simply,
What
do
you
think
about
throughout
a

normal
day?

Dana:
what
do
I
think
about,
out,
a
normal
day
[umm]
going
to
work
[aaa]
you
know

[aaa]

C:
where
do
you
work
at?

D:
McDonalds
on
airport
thruway

C:
ok

D:
[mmhmm]
[umm]
[Jasmin
mumbles
something
inaudible]
I
just
got
my

apartment
again
[cody
says
“ok”]
so
just
all
in
the
day
trying
to
get
things
like

situated,
you
know,

get,
you
know,
things
for
my
apartment,
get
the
help
that
I
need

as
far
as
the
resources
that’s
out
here
for
me.
[umm]
and
then
going
home
and
going

to
sleep.
[laughs
heavily]
after
a
long
day
of
the
work.

C:
[laughs]
Haha,
ok.
Sounds
like
what
I
think
about
all
the
time.
Going
to
sleep.

[Dana
laughes]
[umm]
whats
the
highest
level
of
education
that
you
have
received?

D:
[umm]
I
did
finish
highschool
[umm]
and
I
did
go
to
Columbus
Tech
for
about
a

year
and
a
half,
I
had
about
three
m-‐m-‐months
left
but
my
dad
ended
up
getting

married,
but
I
have
a
car,
so
I
had
to
choose
between
work
and
school
[Cody
says

“ok”]
and
so
I
had
to
quit.

C:
ok,
what
were
you
going
to
Columbus
tech
for?

D:
Columbus…

I
mean
commute…
computer…
computer
Technology

C:
Computer
Technology?
Ok.
What
did
you
uhh…
what
kind
of
job
did
you
expect
to

get
with
that?

Columbus State Univ…, 2/27/15 1:06 AM
Comment [1]: repeating

Comment [2]: What
does
sleep
mean
to

her?
Is
it
highly
valued.

Columbus State Un…, 10/21/14 11:43 AM
Comment [3]: Laughing
maybe
helps
her

cope
with
her
situation

Comment [4]: Must
have
not
been
too

determined
to
finish,
maybe
family
matters

took
priority

2

D:
[umm]
office
job,
anything
behind
a
desk,
you
know,
you
know,
software
[aaa]

cause
I
did
the
whole
PowerPoint
situation
or
whatever.
Anything
you
know
with
a

[Cody
says
“ok”]
computer
basically
was
good
for
me.

C:
ok,
umm.
How
would
you
say
you
value
knowledge?

D:
how
do
I
value
knowledge?
[umm]
I
do
value
it
to
a
great
level
[Cody
says

“mmhmm”]
[umm]
because
[umm]
it
can
take
you
far,
you
know,
in
life
[umm]
…

C:
uhh,
some
people
say
that
knowledge
is
power
do
you
agree
with
that?

D:
Yeah
I
do!

C:
Ok

Jasmin:
when
you
say
that
like
you
value
it
great,
like,
how
would
you
define
great?

D:
[umm]…

J:
Like
what
is
it
to
you?

D:
[umm]
well
I
mean
you
can
have
[umm]
I
mean
knowledge
can
be
in
so
different

many
different
many
levels
in
different
ways
or
whatever.
So…
how
will
I
define

knowledge?
[umm]
I
guess
its
in
all
the
individual
individuality
of
the
person
I
guess

how
they
would
use
it,
but
me
personally
[umm]
I
take
it
a
great
deal,
I
mean,

because,
I
mean
its
every
day
life
[Cody
says
“yeah”]
you
can
use
it
everyday
life
any

type
of
way
or
whatever,
and
you
may
not
use
it
every
day
but
eventually
some
type

of
way
of
living
might
come
across
a
situation
and
you
might
have
to
so.

C:
[umm]
and
I
think
that
kind
of
goes
along
with
out
next
question
which
is
[uhh]

how
would
you
define
education?
Is
it
just
what
you
know
like
booksmart
or
is
it

also
what
you
know,
what
you’ve
gained
like
from
maybe
people
on
the
streets,
you

know,
what
they
learn
out
there.

D:
[umm]
I
mean
you
can
go
to
a
library
and
get
a
lot
of
books
and
read
them
and

whatever,
I
mean,
[umm]
now
what
was
the
question
one
more
time?
[laughs]

C:
How
do
you
define
education?

D:
Ok,
well
as
far
as
education
I
value
it
greatly

because
with
my
child
I
have
two
of

them.

C:Ok

D:
I
have
a
seven
year
old
and
a
15
month
year
old.
So
when
he
started
school,
he

did
the
head
start
thing
then
he
went
to
pre
k
and
the
lady
on
the
phone
told
me
that

Comment [5]: She
says
far
here,
but
says

earlier
that
she
expect
to
just
get
an
office

job.
What
does
she
consider
far?
Just

stability?

Comment [6]: Repetition
of
ums.
Lose
of

words
and
trying
to
be
politically
correct
in

her
answers.
Always
ums
before
a
major

answer.

Comment [7]: Uniqueness

Comment [8]: Is
she
telling
us
what
she

really
thinks?
Or
is
she
just
trying
to
tell
us

what
we
want
to
hear?

Comment [9]: She’s
concerned
about
the

education
of
her
children?
Maybe
because

she
doesn’t
want
them
to
go
down
the
same

path
that
she
has?

Comment [10]: She
put
her
child
in

head-‐start
program,
so
maybe
she
know
s

she
needs
to
give
her
children
every

advantage
he
can
get.

3

[um]
you
know
pre-‐k
is
for
the
[mumbles]
well
maybe
not
to
you
its
not,
but
to
my

its
very
very
important

C:
uh-‐hmmm

D:
[ummm]
Now
I
loved
school
when
I
was
in
school
so.
[ummm]
[pause]

J:
What
do
you
miss
most
about
it?

D:
Hmmm?

J:What
do
you
miss
about
being
in
school?

D:
I
miss
going
to
school
and
socializing
with
my
friends.
Getting
off
the
bus
,

socializing,
All
of
the
[ugh]
I
was
in
[ugh]
not
the
PTA
[um]
it
was,
it
was
two
of
the

clubs
[pause]
oh
god,
I
forgot
what
they
were
called.
Oh
god

C:
What
did
they
do?
What
did
those
clubs
do?

D:
[pause]
[um]
Oh
my
god,
what
were
those
two
groups
called?

J:
It’s
okay!
If
you
can’t
remember
then
we
can
just
get
back
to
it.

D:
I
was
in
two
social
clubs
when
I
was
in
school
and
I
did
enjoy
them
very
well.

[um]
I
took
a
sewing
class
[um]
I
did
the
cheerleading,
yeah
I
did
the
color
guard
or

whatever

J:
Yeah

D:
So
I
went
to
all
the
games
[um]
Carver
games
so
I
enjoyed
school
[pause]
how

you’re
able
to
socialize
with
your
friends
and
you’re
able
to
[um]
get
social
groups

you
know,
with
your
peers
and
able
to
get
in
contact.
You
know,
you
know
that
thing

as
well

J:
Ok

D:
[Um]
[pause]

C:
[Um]
Kind
of
going
in
a
different
direction,
how
would
you
define
ignorance?

D:
Oh
god
[laughs]
[mumbles]
Ignorance

is
[pause]
let
me
see
[pause]
[um]
[pause]

I
guess
[pause]
probably
saying
something
stupid
or
you
know,

doing
something.

Ignorance
is
something
that
you
know
is
already
wrong
and
you
do
it
anyway
[um]

Ignorance
can
be
clearly
coming
out
of
your
mouth
saying
something
crazy.
You

know?
Why
would
you
say
it,
what
was
ignorant,
crazy,
or
whatever.
Ignorance
can

be
like
[uh],
“you
keep
playing
with
me”

C:
[uh
hmm]

Comment [11]: She
seemed
to
act

stressed
at
this
point,
maybe
it
was
just

concern
for
her
children’s
future?

Comment [12]: It
seems
she
misses

Comment [13]: She
misses
the
social
the

social
aspect
of
school

Comment [14]: How
involved
was
she

really
if
she
couldn’t
remember
the
names

of
these
clubs
she
was
in?

Columbus State Un…, 10/21/14 12:01 PM
Comment [15]: These
two
things
tend
to

go
on
at
the
same
time,
not
sure
how

truthful
she
was
being
about
how
really

involved
she
actually
was

4

D:
You
know
like.
Why,
why
You
keep
doing
it.
Ignorance
is
basically
kind
of
says

that
if
you
keep
doing
something
that
you
know
is
not
right
then
you’re
going
to
do

it
anyway.
It’s
ignorant.
Why
would
you
do
that?
[laughs]

C:
[um]
How
did
you
value
education
growing
up?

D:
[um]
I
loved
going
to
school.
I
did
[um].
Math
was
my
favorite
subject
[um]

Going

to
school,
you
know
like
going
from
kindergarten
all
the
way
up
to
twelfth
grade.

You
know
a
lot
of
times
you
didn’t
want
to
get
up

J:
[laughs]

D:
You
know,
you
know
when
you
got
there
it
was
all
good.
I
liked
my
teachers
[um]

Alright,
I
liked
music.
I
was
in
band.
I
was
a
majorette

J:
Oh

D:
Mhmmm,
I
played
the
flute

C:
You
were
into
everything

D:
Yes
I
was

J:
[laughs]

D:
[ugh]
I
did
track
when
I
was
in
seventh
grade
so
My
most
part
[pause]
I
liked
you

know
math
was,
I
just
hated
math,
I
still
hate
math
[
laugh]

J:
[laugh]

D:
I
wish
math
would
just
go
away

J:
[Yeah]

D:
You
know,
change,
x,
and
y
that
theyd
all
just
go
away.
[laugh]

J;
[laugh]

C:
[laugh]

D:
I
don’t
see
the
point
but
it
do,
in
the
medical
field,
I’ve
done
occupations
with
all

that.

[um]
but
its
like
I
said
you
socialize
you
get
into
certain
things
in
school
so
it

makes
it
more
interesting
to
you
know,
be
there

C:
[umm]
how
would
you
say
your
perspective
on
education
has
changed
through

experiencing
homelessness?

D:
[umm]
because
I
still
have
like,
I
still
have
that
certain
things
that
I
can
go
back
to

like
you
know
its
like
the
C
and
A
or
[umm]
the
phlebotomy
or
whatever
I
still
can

go
back
to
certain
things
that
I
have
already
did
or
whatever,
but
as
far
as
being

Comment [16]: Seemed
to
not
really
be

sure
what
she
was
trying
to
say,
maybe
she

was
just
trying
to
tell
us
what
she
thought

we
wanted
to
hear.

Comment [17]: Earlier
she
talked
about

how
much
she
hated
math…
kind
of

confusing

Comment [18]: She
talked
about
how

much
she
loves
school,
but
here
seems
to

contradict
that
by
saying
that
she
really

didn’t
want
to
go.
Maybe
seems
like
friends

and
socializing
were
really
the
only
reason

she
went?

Comment [19]: Is
she
starting
to
lie
to
us

about
how
involved
she
was?
We
have

cheerleading,
color-‐guard,
FBLA,
FFA,
Band,

Track…
seems
like
a
stretch.

Comment [20]: Just
said
she
loved
math…

Comment [21]: Adds
to
she
only
liked

school
for
the
social
aspect

Comment [22]: Does
realize
the

importance
of
the
academic
aspect
of

school,
but
seemed
to
only
want
to
go
for

the
socialization.

5

homeless
[umm,
smacks
lips]
oh
my
God,
I
guess
it
brings
a
tore
down
on
you,
you

know
I
guess
cause
you
know,
you
know
you
feel
like
you
know
I
have
all
this

education,
but
im
still
in
this
situation,
and
how
did
I
get
here?
[Cody
says
“yeah”]

but,

at
the
end
of
the
day
that’s
life,
so…
[Cody
says
“uhh”]
takes
you
to
different

situations.

C:
What
do
you
do,
to
even
continue
your
education
now,
even,
like
even
though

you’re
not
in
school,
do
you
still
try
to
learn?

D:
[um…]
I
might
pick
up
a
book
every
now
and
then
[giggles,
um,]
I
said
I
was

gonna
go
to
like
Barnes
and
Nobles
and
I
was
gonna
get
an
algebra
book
or

something
like
that,
ya
know
to
learn,
do
the
algebra
and
[uh
um]
the
other
stuff,
the

other
math
and
because,
just
because
you
don’t
know
it
don’t
mean
you
can’t
learn

it.

C:
yea

D:
so
[um],
just
ya
know
I
mean
it’s
all
in,
it’s
all
individual
what
you
wanna
do,
I

mean
[mumble],
is
like
I
can’t
do
that
I
can’t.
No
I
don’t
do
the
can’t
word.

C:
yea

D:
It’s
not
what
you,
you
can
do
whatever
you
wanna
do,
you
just
gotta
push

yourself
and
believe
in
yourself
and
that
you
can
do
it.
So
[…]
you
know
[…]
and
I,
I

forward
that
on
my
children,
ya
know
that
I
have
children
now
ya
know
my
my

myse[…],
obviously
they
do
homework
we
[mumbles]
be
like,
‘ugh
momma
I
can’t.’

no
mmm
no
we
don’t
do
the
can’t
word.
Can’t
is
not
[C
giggles]
in
the
vocabulary

[C/J/M
giggle]
get
that
out
the
word.
You
can
do
whatever
you
wanna
do
just
focus.

So
a
lot
of
times
I
be
in
school
I
just
get,
ya
know
just
frustrated
with
a
certain

subject
that

C:
yea

D:
I
be
in
and
I
be
like
oh
god
so
irritating
but
ya
know,
through
tutoring
and
just

through
other
folks
that
made
new,
a
little
bit
better
than
I
did,
ya
know
you
get

help,
you
just
have
to
not
be
prideful
you
have
to
be
able
to
ask
for
help,
cause

closed
mouths
don’t
get
fed.

C:
true,
very
true[…]
[um]
[…]
what
opportunities
have
you
found
to
improve
your

status
while
being
homeless?

Comment [23]: Regrets
only
focusing
on

the
social
aspect
of
school
and
neglecting

the
academics

Comment [24]: Not
a
priority

of
the
‘can’t

word’.
Education
means
to
her
means
for
a

better
future
for
her
children.

Comment [26]: Lack
of
motivation
for

school.
Inner
frustration
with
the
classes

and
system?

Comment [27]: Lost
of
pride
and
identity

when
homeless.
Have
to
give
up
certain

rights
to
survive.

6

D:
[Ummm]
evaluate
my
situation,
um,
looking
over
what
I
did,
and
what
situation

was
and
the
people
that
[mumble]
in
my
life,
and
promise
myself
that
are
the
people

that
I
may,
ya
know
I
may
be
around
some
people
and
I
just
kinda,
I’m
a
very

observant
person,
so
I
observe
you
and
if
my
vibe
does
not
mix
well
with
you,
I

kinda,
just,
frame
myself
from
you,
because
I’m
not
trying
to
get
back
in
that
same

situation
because
people
can
put
on
a
great
face-‐

C:
yea

D:
-‐all
day,
and
say
all
kinda
great
things,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
somewhere
in
the

back
of
that,
they
gotta,
they
got,
they
got
some
bad
things
behind
them
and

eventually
if
you
get
too
close
to
that
person,
eventually
those
bad
things
will
come,

ya
know
[eh]
to
the
surface.
So,
they
turn
into
some,
ya
know
they
turn
into
some

snakes.

C:
[laughs]

D:
mmm
[mumbles]
be
ready
to
bite
ya.

C:
[um]

J:
And
you
said
you
found
a
job,
[an
apartment?]

D:
I
did!
When
I
[um]
when
I,
when
I
got
into
my
situation,
I
basically
when
I
got
to

where
I’m
at
now,
[um]
bout
two
weeks
after
that
I,
I
got
hired
at
mcdonalds,
and

then
prob
like
a
month
or
two
after
that
I
found
my
apartment,
ya
know,
and
that,

that
came
from
getting
up
and
actually
wanting,
wanting
to
do
that
for
myself,
ya

know,
[um]
not
feeling
sorry
for
my
situation
not
saying
oh
god
I’m
here
and
I
can’t

do
this,
I
can’t
do
that,
no,
mmm

C:
Is
that
what
you
feel
like
a
lot
of
people
who
are
stuck
in
this
situation
[do?]

D:
They
do,
they
think
they
blame,
they
blame
they
situations,
instead
of
saying
okay

I’m
in
a
situation,
instead
of
being
the
situation
make
it,
what
can
I
do
to
make
that

situation
better?
Or
what
can
I
make,
what
can
I
do
to
not
ever
go
back
to
that

situation,
cause
a
lot
of
people
tend
to
go
back,
instead
of
going
forward.
And
I
tend

not
to
go
back,
I
tend
to
keep
going
forward,
cause
I
have
kids,
so
I
have
to
be
an

example
for
them
as
well.

C:
[uh]
going
along
with
that,
actually
that
goes
along
perfectly
with
our
next

question,
where
do
you
see
yourself
in
the
future?

Comment [28]: Big
deal.
Almost
like

making
a
vow.

Comment [29]: Bad
experiences
with

other
people,
that
may
have
brought
her

down
brought
her
to
her
current
situation.

Comment [30]: Referred
those
people
to

snakes,
reference
to
Adam
and
Eve.
The

bible
and
how
they
are
the
devil
bringing

her
down.

Comment [31]: She
thinks
she’s
better

than
her
situation

of
‘they’,
she’s

separating
herself
from
the
rest
of
the

homeless
community
and
thinks
she’s
an

exception
to
everyone
else.

Comment [33]: Her
kids
are
what
drives

her
to
better
herself.
Pattern
with
younger

guy
interview.

7

D:
Where
do
I
see
myself
in
the
future
I
see
myself
being
a
phlebotomist
[um]

making
that
career
for
myself,
and
retiring,
about
65.

C:
Do
you
ever
plan
on
going
back
to
school?

Dana:
[um]
well,
yea
I
do,
I
actually
was
gonna
go
to
Miller[mumbles]

C:
okay

D:
for
[um]
a
few
[um]
medical
assistant

C:
okay

D:
[um]
but
[um]
[coughs]
not
to
throw
them
under
the
bus
or
anything
but
[um]

they
financial
aid,
mmm,
they
got
too
many
people
messing
up
in
financial
aid.
I

choose
not
to
go
with
them
and
I
don’t
feel
like,
a
a
real
college
to
me,
I
feel
like
they

just
something
to
get
into
and
like
you
know
maybe
Columbus
tech
or
ya’ll

whatever,
that’s
more
like
a
real
college
to
me.

Ya’ll
are
like
everywhere
[laughs

while
talking]
time,
everytime
I
get
on
a
bus.

C:
Exactly,
especially
downtown
now

D;
Yes!

J:
So
would
you
say
that
education
is
vital
for
you,
for
your
future
[mumbles]?

D:
It
is.
Yea
it
is
[um]
it
ya
know
people
don’t
think
it
is,
people
just
wanna
graduate

high
school
and
they
just
wanna
say
forget
about,
ed,
education
or
whatever.
But
I

mean
some
different
types
of
form
of,
you
might
get
a
job.
And
they
might
ask
you

how
many
years
of
college
you
had
or
you
know
stuff
like
that.
A
lot
of,
a
lot
of,
a
lot

of
jobs
ask
that
now
they
want
you
to
have
so
many
years
of
college
[mumbles]

degree
in
something.

C:
mhmm

D:
So
yea,
it
is
important
to
go
to
school
not
just
for
this
that
situation
but
just
for

yourself,
it
plays
a
big
part
of
life.

C:
[mumbles]

D:
Ya
know,
and
then
it
keeps
your
mind,
your
setting
your
mind
stopping
from,
it

keeps
your
mind
keep
[mumbles]
your
mind
going,
you
may
run
into
a
word
or

something
that
you
don’t
know
but
it
opens
up
your
vocabulary
and
Spanish
and
in

all
that.

J:
yea

Comment [34]: Very
hopeful
and
high

expectations
for
her
future.

Comment [35]: Grouped
our
interview

team
as
“CSU”
in
the
phrase
of
“ya’ll”
going

back
to
the
reason
why
she
may
be
trying
to

impress
us
and
be
politically
correct
in
her

answers.

Comment [36]: Stuttering
may
just
be
a

speech
impediment
or
twitch
to

overthinking
of
how
she
wants
to
phrase

and
what
she’s
going
to
say
next.

Comment [37]: Reiterates
it’s
important

to
need
education
to
succeed.

8

Dana:
And
then
it’s
the
new
people
that
you
may
meet,
you
know,
and
it
makes
it

easier
than
you
can
get
into
something
in
school
or
whatever-‐

J:
yea

D:
-‐ya
know,
a
club
or
whatever
as
well

J:
mhmm

D:
FBLA,
that’s
what
it
was!

C:
Okay

D:
FBLA
and
F..
FHA
that
what
it
was!

C:
Okay,
I
was
in
FBLA
at
at
my
school.

D:
[laughs]

J:
[mumbles]

D:
[laughs]
I
got
it!

J:
yep
there
you
go!

D:
Whew!

J:
She
was
in
everything!

C;
I
think
you’ve
covered
the
rest
of
our
questions
already.

J:
yea

C:
What,
what
do
you,
do
you
have
anything
to
add?

J:
No
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
last
question
I
just
asked,
but
you’ve
pretty
much

answered
everyone,
everything.

D:
Okay!

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