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Identifying Future Skills Needs:
issues and challenges for languages

                 Nora Condon
     Skills and Labour Market Research Unit
                      FÁS


                 March 21st 2012
PRESENTATION OUTLINE
Background


Examples of what the data tells us


Languages – what we know


Issues & challenges that arise in identifying
language skills needs in Ireland’s labour
market
BACKGROUND: INSTITUTIONAL
FRAMEWORK



           Expert Group on Future Skills Needs



   FORFÁS
 (Government
 advisory body      SLMRU (FÁS)        Outside Consultants
 on science &
  innovation)
DATA SOURCES
Central Statistics Office (Census data; QNHS data)
Education Providers
Job Vacancy Data
ESRI/FAS Occupational Forecasts
Other
  • Immigration data
  • Announcements in media (jobs, possible future expansion)
  • SLMRU Recruitment Agency Survey
EXAMPLE: POPULATION BY AGE AND LABOUR
STATUS, QUARTER 4 2010

                                    Population
                                    4.5 million


       Children (< 15)           Working age
                                                            65 and older
          972,100              population (15-64)
                                                              517,300
                                   3 million


                              In              Not in                In
                         employment        employment           employment
                          1.8 million       1.2 million           44,000



                                Unemployed           Inactive
                                  298,000            917,600



 Source: SLMRU analysis of CSO (QNHS) data
What jobs do people do?
Employment by broad occupation 2010
                              Employment (000s)

               Farmers               68
            Operatives                          136
             Labourers                            145
                 Sales                                163
                 Craft                                  179
 Associate professional                                      193
              Services                                             234
                 Clerks                                            236
             Managers                                              240
          Professionals                                              253

                          0     50        100   150         200    250     300




                                                                                 6
Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
EMPLOYMENT BY EDUCATION, QUARTER 4 2010


                                            17%
                         27%



                        17%                  38%


                Lower Secondary and Below
                Upper Secondary/FET
                Third Level Certificate/Below Honours Degree
                Third Level Honours Degree or Above

Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE BY AGE AND
EDUCATION


                          5%
       Third level or
                            7%
           above
                                        18%


                             9%
    Upper secondary
                                    15%
        or FET
                                                    28%


                                  12%
    Lower secondary
                                              24%
        or less
                                                                49%



                                  55+         25-54       <25


Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
Education System: Inflows
80,000

70,000

60,000

50,000

40,000

30,000

20,000

10,000

      0
          1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
                     Births      Junior Infants       Junior Cycle Entrants
Data on births refers to calendar year; junior infant & junior cycle data refers to
academic year (i.e. Sept-June)
Source: CSO; DES




                                                                                       9
Full-time Enrolment Projections (DES)

     Rising enrolments across all sectors, even with
     large-scale emigration and a fall in fertility rates




        Primary Level       +31,000                   536,500 by 2014

        Second Level       +15,000
                                                      331,900 by 2014

        Higher             +29,000                    190,000 by 2014


  Source: DES (2011) Projections of Full-time Enrolments : Primary, Second &
  Higher Level, 2011-2031




                                                                               10
EDUCATION: INFLOWS & OUTFLOWS (Computing
Courses – NFQ 8)

5000
                                    4,315
4000
                              3,230
3000
                                                           2010*
2000                                                       2011*
           1,380   1,427
                                               868
                                                     754
1000

   0
       CAO acceptances Total Enrolments        Graduates

*CAO Data = 2010 & 2011
Enrolment data (HEA) = 2008/2009 & 2009/2010
Graduate data (HEA) = 2009 & 2010
CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011




• The overall number of newly advertised vacancies in
  2011 was higher than in 2010 for both FÁS and Irish
  jobs.ie (although significantly lower than at the peak
  in 2007)


• There were initial (albeit small) signs of a recovery in
  the number of jobs advertised for some occupations
  (e.g. managers, professionals)




                                                             12
CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011

Vacancies were most frequent for:
Sales, marketing and customer service
 • business associate professionals (e.g. sales accounts and business
   development managers)
 • sales occupations (e.g. retail sales assistants)
 • customer service occupations
Science and engineering professionals
 • IT professionals (e.g. programmers/software developers, IT business
   analysts, web designers, IT specialist managers)
 • design and development engineers
 • process engineers
Business professionals
 • financial project management professionals, chartered
   accountants, management consultants and business analysts, regulatory
   professionals, quality control professionals




                                                                           13
CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011

Administrative occupations
Science and engineering associate professionals
 • IT associate professionals
 • engineering technicians
 • laboratory technicians
Corporate managers and directors




                                                  14
CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011

A third level qualification was required for a significant
share of all newly advertised vacancies


The data suggests that the demand is mostly limited to
experienced candidates


Language skills
  • a prerequisite for many newly advertised vacancies, particularly
    in sales customer care activities, but also at professional
    level (e.g. ICT, engineering, finance)
  • a variety of languages were in demand, predominantly
    German, French and Nordic languages




                                                                       15
CURRENT DEMAND: SHORTAGES

The results from the recruitment agency survey suggest that
difficult to fill vacancies exist for a number of occupations, e.g.
  • ICT professionals (e.g. software and web development, gaming
    technology, mobile technology)
  • engineering experts (e.g. production/process, quality
    control, industry regulatory compliance specialists, research and
    design, electrical)
  • scientists (e.g. microbiologists, chemists, biological analysts)
  • finance specialists (senior auditors, analysts (financial, risk and
    recovery), regulatory affairs specialists)
  • healthcare professionals (e.g. doctors, senior specialist
    nurses, geriatric nurses)




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LEAVING CERT SITS FOR LANGUAGES
2007-2011
               2006        2007        2008    2009         2010         2011       2012
             60
 Thousands




             50

             40                                                                            French
                  28              28           28           28                             German
             30                                                           27
                                                                                           Spanish
             20                                                                            Total Sits

             10        8               7            8            7              7
                           3               3            3            4              4
              0
                  2007            2008         2009          2010          2011

Source: State Examinations Commission
WHAT IRISH LEAVING CERT
STUDENTS LEARN
Language                        Leaving Cert         % of all Leaving               2007
                                Sits 2011*           Cert Sits** 2011                %


Total LC Sits in 2011                     54,000              100%

French                                    27,000               49%                  55%

German                                     7,000               13%                  15%

Spanish                                    4,000                7%                  5%

Italian                                        400              1%                  1%


Source: State Examinations Commission


 *Numbers have been rounded
 ** Leaving Certificate Established and Leaving Certificate Vocational Programmes
 ***
STUDENTS SITTING 2 OF THE FOLLOWING LC
FOREIGN LANGUAGES (2010)

                 French         German   Spanish       Italian       Russian   Japanese   Total


French               -           319         249         50            95          44     757

German             319      -                56          20            43          12     450

Spanish            249           56      -               24            15          12     356

Italian             50           20          24    -                   1           2       97

Russian             95           43          15          1       -                 2      156

Japanese            44           12          12          2             2       -           72


Source: State Examinations Commission
NON-CURRICULAR* LANGUAGE SITS
                                         2007 Sits                 2011 Sits

         Polish                              53                        574

         Lithuanian                          61                        254

         Romanian                            25                        115

         Others**                            40                        122

         Latvian                             32                        111

         Portuguese                          27                        57

         Dutch                               16                        29

         Total                               254                     1,262

Source: State Examinations Commission
*Not part of the LC curriculum but students from an EU member state and who speak the language as a
mother tongue may opt to be examined in that language.
** Others: Slovakian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Swedish, Danish, Czech, Modern Greek, Finnish, & Estonian
LANGUAGES IN HIGHER EDUCATION
 2009/2010 enrolments (foreign languages) =
 c1,400?


 Only includes those who study foreign languages
 only


 Excludes those who combine a language with
 another subject such as history, economics or
 computing


 2009/2010 enrolments (total enrolments) ?
ERASMUS STUDENTS
 Outgoing students on Erasmus = 1,836




Source: European Commission
*Numbers include students going abroad to higher education institutions and on work placements.
**Includes: Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, Finland, among others.
ERASMUS STUDENTS AS A SHARE OF
GRADUATES, 2009 (%)
 12

                                                                                            11
 10
                                                                                    10 10
                                                                              9 9
                                                                        8 8
  8                                                                 8
                                                                7
                                                        7 7 7
                                                6 6 6
  6
                                            5
                                      5 5 5
                                  4
  4                           4
                        3 3
                    2
  2           2 2
          1
      1

  0




Source: European Commission
JOB VACANCIES WHICH SPECIFIED LANGUAGE
SKILLS IN OCT. 2011
Language             Share of          Share of Irish    Share of FÁS
                     Irishjob.ie       Times             Vacancies with
                     Vacancies with    Vacancies with    Language Skills
                     Language Skills   Language Skills   (5%)
                     (10%)             (5%)


German                    27%               31%               48%

French                    23%               26%               21%
Nordic                    14%               14%                5%
(Swedish, Danish &
Dutch)
Italian/Spanish           14%                 -               17%
2+ Languages               6%                 -                2%

Others/Unspecified        16%               29%                8%
LARGEST GOODS EXPORT COUNTRIES* 2011
25%

20%

15%

                                                                           23%
10%
                                                                     18%
                                                             16%
       12%
 5%
                                                       7%
                                           4%    5%
             2%   3%       3%   3%   3%
 0%




Source: CSO (March 2012)                  *in terms of value share
ISSUES: CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO
What is the reality of the situation?
Is it that ….


Ireland does not export to foreign language markets because they
do not have language skills


                                   or


Irish people don’t learn languages because Ireland does not export
to those markets



EGFSN report 2005 : The demand and supply of foreign language skills in
the enterprise sector
THE FUTURE: LANGUAGE SKILLS ALONE ARE INSUFFICIENT


If almost 50% of the population have a degree, graduates will
need something ‘extra’
Need to look beyond the academic qualification
  • Study/work abroad (e.g. Erasmus) – valued by employers
  • Develop a skills mix is important
       •   ICT with business (e.g. entrepreneurship skills) and/or language
       •   Marketing with languages and/or ICT skills
       •   Engineering with business and/or languages
       •   Science with business, innovation and/or languages
A language module compulsory in higher education? It is the
case in most European countries (except UK)
Compulsory study abroad? (note number going to the UK or
taking English modules in some countries)
LANGUAGES: CHALLENGES
1. Improve data capturing/reporting mechanisms on
   the supply side to establish
  •   Numbers studying languages
  •   Level achieved – comparable across institutions
      and internationally
  •   Applies especially to higher education
  •   But also further education, where it occurs
LANGUAGES: CHALLENGES
2. On the demand side, identify the level of
   proficiency required for jobs and to differentiate
   between the jobs
   • To do business abroad
        • Cultural awareness sufficient? (e.g. engineering/ICT)
   • To sell products abroad (including contact centres)
        • A very high level of foreign language
   • To create a market for products abroad
        • Irish made products in foreign markets, especially by SMEs?
   •   To interact with and facilitate tourists to Ireland


3. Identify the languages needed
   • We export comparatively little beyond Anglophone
     countries and the EU, but will this always be the case?
THE CHALLENGE
4. Quantify the number of individuals required with
language skills


5. Match this need to what the education system
can realistically provide
   •   Some languages are more difficult to learn (compare
       Chinese and Italian)
   •   China, Italy, Spain and Brazil each accounted for 3% of
       the value of Ireland’s exports (goods) last year – which
       one to learn, if any?
   •   To provide language education, language teachers are
       required
         •   Primary Level
         •   Second level?
THANK YOU
Further Information on www.skillsireland.ie


EGFSN Forthcoming: Skills for Ireland to Trade
Internationally


Annual Publications (FÁS/EGFSN):
   •   National Skills Bulletin
   •   Monitoring Ireland’s Skills Supply
   •   Vacancy Overview

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Nora condon's ppt (fas, expert group & iraal)

  • 1. Identifying Future Skills Needs: issues and challenges for languages Nora Condon Skills and Labour Market Research Unit FÁS March 21st 2012
  • 2. PRESENTATION OUTLINE Background Examples of what the data tells us Languages – what we know Issues & challenges that arise in identifying language skills needs in Ireland’s labour market
  • 3. BACKGROUND: INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK Expert Group on Future Skills Needs FORFÁS (Government advisory body SLMRU (FÁS) Outside Consultants on science & innovation)
  • 4. DATA SOURCES Central Statistics Office (Census data; QNHS data) Education Providers Job Vacancy Data ESRI/FAS Occupational Forecasts Other • Immigration data • Announcements in media (jobs, possible future expansion) • SLMRU Recruitment Agency Survey
  • 5. EXAMPLE: POPULATION BY AGE AND LABOUR STATUS, QUARTER 4 2010 Population 4.5 million Children (< 15) Working age 65 and older 972,100 population (15-64) 517,300 3 million In Not in In employment employment employment 1.8 million 1.2 million 44,000 Unemployed Inactive 298,000 917,600 Source: SLMRU analysis of CSO (QNHS) data
  • 6. What jobs do people do? Employment by broad occupation 2010 Employment (000s) Farmers 68 Operatives 136 Labourers 145 Sales 163 Craft 179 Associate professional 193 Services 234 Clerks 236 Managers 240 Professionals 253 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 6 Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
  • 7. EMPLOYMENT BY EDUCATION, QUARTER 4 2010 17% 27% 17% 38% Lower Secondary and Below Upper Secondary/FET Third Level Certificate/Below Honours Degree Third Level Honours Degree or Above Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
  • 8. UNEMPLOYMENT RATE BY AGE AND EDUCATION 5% Third level or 7% above 18% 9% Upper secondary 15% or FET 28% 12% Lower secondary 24% or less 49% 55+ 25-54 <25 Source: SLMRU Analysis of CSO (QHNS) Data
  • 9. Education System: Inflows 80,000 70,000 60,000 50,000 40,000 30,000 20,000 10,000 0 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 Births Junior Infants Junior Cycle Entrants Data on births refers to calendar year; junior infant & junior cycle data refers to academic year (i.e. Sept-June) Source: CSO; DES 9
  • 10. Full-time Enrolment Projections (DES) Rising enrolments across all sectors, even with large-scale emigration and a fall in fertility rates Primary Level +31,000 536,500 by 2014 Second Level +15,000 331,900 by 2014 Higher +29,000 190,000 by 2014 Source: DES (2011) Projections of Full-time Enrolments : Primary, Second & Higher Level, 2011-2031 10
  • 11. EDUCATION: INFLOWS & OUTFLOWS (Computing Courses – NFQ 8) 5000 4,315 4000 3,230 3000 2010* 2000 2011* 1,380 1,427 868 754 1000 0 CAO acceptances Total Enrolments Graduates *CAO Data = 2010 & 2011 Enrolment data (HEA) = 2008/2009 & 2009/2010 Graduate data (HEA) = 2009 & 2010
  • 12. CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011 • The overall number of newly advertised vacancies in 2011 was higher than in 2010 for both FÁS and Irish jobs.ie (although significantly lower than at the peak in 2007) • There were initial (albeit small) signs of a recovery in the number of jobs advertised for some occupations (e.g. managers, professionals) 12
  • 13. CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011 Vacancies were most frequent for: Sales, marketing and customer service • business associate professionals (e.g. sales accounts and business development managers) • sales occupations (e.g. retail sales assistants) • customer service occupations Science and engineering professionals • IT professionals (e.g. programmers/software developers, IT business analysts, web designers, IT specialist managers) • design and development engineers • process engineers Business professionals • financial project management professionals, chartered accountants, management consultants and business analysts, regulatory professionals, quality control professionals 13
  • 14. CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011 Administrative occupations Science and engineering associate professionals • IT associate professionals • engineering technicians • laboratory technicians Corporate managers and directors 14
  • 15. CURRENT DEMAND: VACANCIES IN 2011 A third level qualification was required for a significant share of all newly advertised vacancies The data suggests that the demand is mostly limited to experienced candidates Language skills • a prerequisite for many newly advertised vacancies, particularly in sales customer care activities, but also at professional level (e.g. ICT, engineering, finance) • a variety of languages were in demand, predominantly German, French and Nordic languages 15
  • 16. CURRENT DEMAND: SHORTAGES The results from the recruitment agency survey suggest that difficult to fill vacancies exist for a number of occupations, e.g. • ICT professionals (e.g. software and web development, gaming technology, mobile technology) • engineering experts (e.g. production/process, quality control, industry regulatory compliance specialists, research and design, electrical) • scientists (e.g. microbiologists, chemists, biological analysts) • finance specialists (senior auditors, analysts (financial, risk and recovery), regulatory affairs specialists) • healthcare professionals (e.g. doctors, senior specialist nurses, geriatric nurses) 16
  • 17. LEAVING CERT SITS FOR LANGUAGES 2007-2011 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 60 Thousands 50 40 French 28 28 28 28 German 30 27 Spanish 20 Total Sits 10 8 7 8 7 7 3 3 3 4 4 0 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 Source: State Examinations Commission
  • 18. WHAT IRISH LEAVING CERT STUDENTS LEARN Language Leaving Cert % of all Leaving 2007 Sits 2011* Cert Sits** 2011 % Total LC Sits in 2011 54,000 100% French 27,000 49% 55% German 7,000 13% 15% Spanish 4,000 7% 5% Italian 400 1% 1% Source: State Examinations Commission *Numbers have been rounded ** Leaving Certificate Established and Leaving Certificate Vocational Programmes ***
  • 19. STUDENTS SITTING 2 OF THE FOLLOWING LC FOREIGN LANGUAGES (2010) French German Spanish Italian Russian Japanese Total French - 319 249 50 95 44 757 German 319 - 56 20 43 12 450 Spanish 249 56 - 24 15 12 356 Italian 50 20 24 - 1 2 97 Russian 95 43 15 1 - 2 156 Japanese 44 12 12 2 2 - 72 Source: State Examinations Commission
  • 20. NON-CURRICULAR* LANGUAGE SITS 2007 Sits 2011 Sits Polish 53 574 Lithuanian 61 254 Romanian 25 115 Others** 40 122 Latvian 32 111 Portuguese 27 57 Dutch 16 29 Total 254 1,262 Source: State Examinations Commission *Not part of the LC curriculum but students from an EU member state and who speak the language as a mother tongue may opt to be examined in that language. ** Others: Slovakian, Bulgarian, Hungarian, Swedish, Danish, Czech, Modern Greek, Finnish, & Estonian
  • 21. LANGUAGES IN HIGHER EDUCATION 2009/2010 enrolments (foreign languages) = c1,400? Only includes those who study foreign languages only Excludes those who combine a language with another subject such as history, economics or computing 2009/2010 enrolments (total enrolments) ?
  • 22. ERASMUS STUDENTS Outgoing students on Erasmus = 1,836 Source: European Commission *Numbers include students going abroad to higher education institutions and on work placements. **Includes: Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, Finland, among others.
  • 23. ERASMUS STUDENTS AS A SHARE OF GRADUATES, 2009 (%) 12 11 10 10 10 9 9 8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 6 6 6 6 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 3 3 2 2 2 2 1 1 0 Source: European Commission
  • 24. JOB VACANCIES WHICH SPECIFIED LANGUAGE SKILLS IN OCT. 2011 Language Share of Share of Irish Share of FÁS Irishjob.ie Times Vacancies with Vacancies with Vacancies with Language Skills Language Skills Language Skills (5%) (10%) (5%) German 27% 31% 48% French 23% 26% 21% Nordic 14% 14% 5% (Swedish, Danish & Dutch) Italian/Spanish 14% - 17% 2+ Languages 6% - 2% Others/Unspecified 16% 29% 8%
  • 25. LARGEST GOODS EXPORT COUNTRIES* 2011 25% 20% 15% 23% 10% 18% 16% 12% 5% 7% 4% 5% 2% 3% 3% 3% 3% 0% Source: CSO (March 2012) *in terms of value share
  • 26. ISSUES: CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO What is the reality of the situation? Is it that …. Ireland does not export to foreign language markets because they do not have language skills or Irish people don’t learn languages because Ireland does not export to those markets EGFSN report 2005 : The demand and supply of foreign language skills in the enterprise sector
  • 27. THE FUTURE: LANGUAGE SKILLS ALONE ARE INSUFFICIENT If almost 50% of the population have a degree, graduates will need something ‘extra’ Need to look beyond the academic qualification • Study/work abroad (e.g. Erasmus) – valued by employers • Develop a skills mix is important • ICT with business (e.g. entrepreneurship skills) and/or language • Marketing with languages and/or ICT skills • Engineering with business and/or languages • Science with business, innovation and/or languages A language module compulsory in higher education? It is the case in most European countries (except UK) Compulsory study abroad? (note number going to the UK or taking English modules in some countries)
  • 28. LANGUAGES: CHALLENGES 1. Improve data capturing/reporting mechanisms on the supply side to establish • Numbers studying languages • Level achieved – comparable across institutions and internationally • Applies especially to higher education • But also further education, where it occurs
  • 29. LANGUAGES: CHALLENGES 2. On the demand side, identify the level of proficiency required for jobs and to differentiate between the jobs • To do business abroad • Cultural awareness sufficient? (e.g. engineering/ICT) • To sell products abroad (including contact centres) • A very high level of foreign language • To create a market for products abroad • Irish made products in foreign markets, especially by SMEs? • To interact with and facilitate tourists to Ireland 3. Identify the languages needed • We export comparatively little beyond Anglophone countries and the EU, but will this always be the case?
  • 30. THE CHALLENGE 4. Quantify the number of individuals required with language skills 5. Match this need to what the education system can realistically provide • Some languages are more difficult to learn (compare Chinese and Italian) • China, Italy, Spain and Brazil each accounted for 3% of the value of Ireland’s exports (goods) last year – which one to learn, if any? • To provide language education, language teachers are required • Primary Level • Second level?
  • 31. THANK YOU Further Information on www.skillsireland.ie EGFSN Forthcoming: Skills for Ireland to Trade Internationally Annual Publications (FÁS/EGFSN): • National Skills Bulletin • Monitoring Ireland’s Skills Supply • Vacancy Overview

Editor's Notes

  1. The central statistics office is our main source of data; we use the census data to some extent – but that gets old quickly; and we also use the quarterly national household survey – which is a survey of a sample of the population in ireland.
  2. Inactive: includes students (320,600), home duties (324,600), retired, (63,800) and other (208,600).
  3. The supply of skills from the education system depends largely on the number of students entering the system in the preceding years. As such, the number of births annually is an important indicator of trends in education inflows. We can see here that since 2007 the number of births has been considerably higher than at the beginning of the century, and even more so than in the mid-late nineties.Increases in the number of births impacts on junior infant numbers 4 – 5 years later, so we can see that the number of Junior infant numbers has, in the main, been increasing since 2000. increases in inflows at primary level, will eventually be reflected in the number of first year
  4. The number of pupils enrolled at primary level is not expected to decline before 2015, possibly later, depending on fertility, migration.
  5. Languages studied: largely reflects Leaving Certificate choices
  6. Ireland ranks below the average and well behind most EU countries. Only seven countries rank below Ireland.
  7. 73% of exports are to countries where just to one of 4 languages are spoken (English, French, Dutch and German)