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市场新营销? 
is marketing 
the new sales? 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
LUCA DESTEFANIS 
Marketing Executive | IBM Asia Pacific 
Shanghai | 11.09.2014 | B2B Sales Leader Forum
business to business… or what? 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
Company Matters 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
What about Persona? 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
It’s not Business To 
Business, nor Business To 
Consumer. 
It’s Human to Human. 
Getting Personal Matters 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
➔ B2B buying is very personal, entailing bigger 
risks than any consumer purchase 
➔ Understand customer personal goals and 
emotions 
➔ Craft brand messages that convey personal 
value 
➔ Aim at both rational and emotional 
differentiation to win preference: teach the 
customer WHY (something new about 
business needs and challenges), provide the 
WHY NOW (compelling reasons why it is 
necessary to take actions)
marketing-first or sales-first? 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
The Customer Experience 
Discovery! Engagement! Commitment! Purchase/Adoption! Advocacy! 
CX led by Marketing! 
CX led by Sales! 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
Steps in the Journey! 
Channels of Interaction!
Enabling Sellers to Deliver The Customer Experience 
VALUES SOLUTIONS 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
Seller 
Experience! 
Customer 
Experience! 
Brand Advocacy! 
Brand Value! 
CONNECTED 
KNOWLEDGEABLE 
PREPARED 
COMMITTED 
TRUSTED 
INNOVATIVE
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
➔ Create personas and experience journey 
map that deeply understand and consider 
customer needs, drivers and emotions 
➔ Identify Moment of Truth in the customer 
experience, and make sure you deliver the 
promise 
➔ Break down company silos, integrate 
channels 
➔ Build a system of shared valued and 
behaviors that focuses employee activity on 
improving the customer experience. Have 
Sellers as the Brand Advocate 
It’s Client-first. 
It’s about Engaging and 
Connecting with people. 
Make sure your Sellers are 
the best Brand Advocates
marketing: art or science? 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
What makes for a great brand? 
An enduring idea: 
World-changing progress 
Who they serve: 
Forward thinkers 
Experienced through: 
The IBMer 
Differentiated by: 
Living our values 
CORPORATE CHARACTER 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
Data-Driven Marketing is 
revolutionizing the way we 
touch our customers and 
deliver business outcomes 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
Data and 
Infrastructure 
Data-Driven 
applications 
Personalized client 
experiences 
Always-On 
Marketing 
System! 
Client 
Experience! 
Marketing Planning! 
Content and Offers! 
Nurture Services! 
Inbound Optimization! 
Marketing 
Systems! 
Client 
Experience! 
Marketing 
Services!
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
➔ Drive the intentional management of brand 
and culture 
➔ Shelve the commercial pitch in favor of 
authentic storytelling 
➔ Develop an acute understanding of the 
company reputation by actively listening and 
engaging in social media 
➔ Run real time customer analytics 
(descriptive, predictive, prescriptive) to 
generate new ideas on whom to serve, and 
how to best serve that individual 
➔ Link operational metrics to strategic 
objectives to financial performance, and 
drive ongoing interlock with Sales 
Marketing at its best manages 
the brand to represent the 
corporate character and 
leverage analytics to deliver 
business outcomes
① It’s Human to Human 
② It’s about Engaging and Connecting with people 
③ It’s building the Brand and running deep Analytics 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
A Case: Marketing Cognitive Computing 
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! 
Luca Destefanis. IBM 
lucad@sg.ibm.com 
@lucadeste 
谢谢!

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Is marketing the new sales?

  • 1. 市场新营销? is marketing the new sales? shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! LUCA DESTEFANIS Marketing Executive | IBM Asia Pacific Shanghai | 11.09.2014 | B2B Sales Leader Forum
  • 2. business to business… or what? shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 3. Company Matters shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 4. What about Persona? shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 5. It’s not Business To Business, nor Business To Consumer. It’s Human to Human. Getting Personal Matters shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! ➔ B2B buying is very personal, entailing bigger risks than any consumer purchase ➔ Understand customer personal goals and emotions ➔ Craft brand messages that convey personal value ➔ Aim at both rational and emotional differentiation to win preference: teach the customer WHY (something new about business needs and challenges), provide the WHY NOW (compelling reasons why it is necessary to take actions)
  • 6. marketing-first or sales-first? shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 7. The Customer Experience Discovery! Engagement! Commitment! Purchase/Adoption! Advocacy! CX led by Marketing! CX led by Sales! shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! Steps in the Journey! Channels of Interaction!
  • 8. Enabling Sellers to Deliver The Customer Experience VALUES SOLUTIONS shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! Seller Experience! Customer Experience! Brand Advocacy! Brand Value! CONNECTED KNOWLEDGEABLE PREPARED COMMITTED TRUSTED INNOVATIVE
  • 9. shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! ➔ Create personas and experience journey map that deeply understand and consider customer needs, drivers and emotions ➔ Identify Moment of Truth in the customer experience, and make sure you deliver the promise ➔ Break down company silos, integrate channels ➔ Build a system of shared valued and behaviors that focuses employee activity on improving the customer experience. Have Sellers as the Brand Advocate It’s Client-first. It’s about Engaging and Connecting with people. Make sure your Sellers are the best Brand Advocates
  • 10. marketing: art or science? shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 11. What makes for a great brand? An enduring idea: World-changing progress Who they serve: Forward thinkers Experienced through: The IBMer Differentiated by: Living our values CORPORATE CHARACTER shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 12. Data-Driven Marketing is revolutionizing the way we touch our customers and deliver business outcomes shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! Data and Infrastructure Data-Driven applications Personalized client experiences Always-On Marketing System! Client Experience! Marketing Planning! Content and Offers! Nurture Services! Inbound Optimization! Marketing Systems! Client Experience! Marketing Services!
  • 13. shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! ➔ Drive the intentional management of brand and culture ➔ Shelve the commercial pitch in favor of authentic storytelling ➔ Develop an acute understanding of the company reputation by actively listening and engaging in social media ➔ Run real time customer analytics (descriptive, predictive, prescriptive) to generate new ideas on whom to serve, and how to best serve that individual ➔ Link operational metrics to strategic objectives to financial performance, and drive ongoing interlock with Sales Marketing at its best manages the brand to represent the corporate character and leverage analytics to deliver business outcomes
  • 14. ① It’s Human to Human ② It’s about Engaging and Connecting with people ③ It’s building the Brand and running deep Analytics shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 15. A Case: Marketing Cognitive Computing shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste!
  • 16. shanghai | september 2014 | luca destefanis | twitter: @lucadeste! Luca Destefanis. IBM lucad@sg.ibm.com @lucadeste 谢谢!