1. Men Cry
Daniel andVellatalksaboutthe cultural normformennot to cry and if theyshouldcry more often.
Vella:SoDaniel,we're talkingaboutemotionsandlet'stalkaboutemotionsinmen.Doyouthinkit'sOK
for mento cry?
Daniel:Well,Ido thinkit'sall right.There'snothingwrongaboutit. If youwant to cry, if you're sad,if
youare angry, if youare disappointed,Ithinkit'snormal.The normal reactionwouldbe tocry but
unfortunatelythereisahuge stigmaattachedto mencrying.For some people itisa bigissue.Forme,
personally,itisn't.
Vella:Iagree a hundredpercentwithyou.For me personally,Ithinkit'stotallyOKforguysto cry.
Daniel:Hm,hm.
Vella:ButI thinkit'sinmy culture,Indonesian,it'sreallyuncommonto,youknow,forguysto showthis
emotional expressionwhentheycry.Forexample when,evenwhenyou're little,if youcryin the
classroomandwhenyouare a guyand if youcry, people are justgoingto make funof you and they're
goingto start laughingandcallingyounames.
Daniel:Iknowtotally.It'sthe same in Chile actually.Well,Iwasraisedina really,reallystrongkindof
macho culture.Imeancryingwas a signof weaknesssoboyswere not,ImeanI can say, were not
allowedtocry,right, because of,because of the whole machothingandyou have to be a man, youhave
to be brave so you're not supposedtocry. Butnow I thinkit's,kidsshouldn'tbe,welltheyshouldn'tbe
encouragedtocry but theyshouldbe toldthatit's all right.I meanit's a natural reactionand youhave to

2. showyour feelingssoIthinkif youwant to cry,if you're sadand if you wantto cry, you shouldjustdoit
but there'snothingtobe embarrassedabout.
Vella:Ithinkthat'sjusthow itis inside ortheyexpect mentobe machoand masculine andIthink
showingtearskindof takesawaya lotof masculine,like masculinityoutof men.
Daniel:Ithinkit'smore masculine justtoassume thatyouare sad andyou are showingit.You're not
afraidto showyour emotions.Ithinkthat'smore valuable,that'smore,ImeanI'ma boyand because I
cry that doesn'tmake me lessof a man.I mean,I'm a man and therefore,Idon'tknow because I'ma
man,I can showmyexpressionsandI'mnot afraidof it.I don'tknow,that's whatI think.