Diploma youth to degree Caboolture TAFE April S1 2018
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Diploma youth to degree Caboolture TAFE April S1 2018
- 1. University Pathways Clive May Careers Counsellor (Widening Participation) Queensland University of Technology H Block
- 3. Things we will cover Uni jargon How do I apply to get in? Can I get a loan or a scholarship? How much are university fees? Help for TAFE students Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 4. Some uni jargon! •Prerequisite STAT Alternative Entry •Withdrawal •Undergraduate Degree •Double Degree •Tutorial •HECS HELP •Census Date •Scholarship •GPA •Lecture QTAC •Ranking •Elective Unit Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 5. How do I get in? Apply through QTAC Fees $71 on time applications due 31 May/30 Sept Diploma = Direct entry to some unis » Meets the English (SA) prerequisite » Gains up to 1yr credit transfer Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 6. How can I get the best rank? What rank will I get with a Diploma? Diploma 82 - 87 Quick ways to boost your rank + STAT may boost rank by 1 – 5 + EAS may give up to 6 bonus ranks Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 7. What credit transfer is available to me? Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship? Diploma of Child, Youth and Family Intervention (under revision, but 3 – 8 units) B. Human Services B. Social Work B. Social Science B. Social Welfare B. Counselling B. Counselling (Coaching) B. Applied Social Science B. Psychological Science
- 8. Which course/uni? Bachelor of Social Work USC - 64 ACU - 63 QUT - 73 UQ - 78 Bachelor of Human Services USC - 61 QUT - 71 Griffith - 66 USQ - 66 Bachelor of Counselling USC - 61 Griffith - 66 Bachelor of Psychology USC – 64 QUT – 78 UQ – 86 Griffith - 68 Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 9. Educational Access Scheme You may be eligible for one or more categories - up to a max of 10 points 1. Financial hardship 2-3 rank points 2. Home environment and responsibilities 1-2 rank points 3. English language difficulty 1-2 rank points 4. Personal illness and disability 1-2 rank points 5. Educational disruption 1-2 rank points Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 10. University fees http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassist/helppayingmyfees/csps/pages/student-contribution-amounts#2017 You start repaying your HECS HELP debt through the tax system once you earn $54,868 Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship? Student contribution band 2017 2017 Student contribution range (per FT study load) Band 3: Law, dentistry, medicine, veterinary science, accounting, administration, economics, commerce $0 - $10,596 Band 2: Computing, built environment, other health, allied health, engineering, surveying, agriculture, mathematics, statistics, science $0 - $9,050 Band 1: Humanities, behavioural science, social studies, education (see Notes), clinical psychology, foreign languages, visual and performing arts, nursing $0 – $6,349
- 11. Help is always available… Health, Counselling, Welfare, Disability & Chaplaincy Indigenous Support Units – Oodgeroo Unit and GUMURRII Workshops & Training – Academic support/Learning Mentor and peer support programs Clubs and Societies Help for TAFE students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 12. Help from QUT - free stuff! QTAC tertiary application fees ($71) STAT test fees ($160) Careers advice Help for ATP students How much are Uni fees? How do I apply to get in? Uni Jargon Can I get a loan or a scholarship?
- 13. Contact Information Clive May Ph: 3138 9492 Email: clive.may@qut.edu.au Barry Ryan Ph: 3138 7463 Email: barry.ryan@qut.edu.au
Editor's Notes
- Alicia Hi! Introductions. This is Glenda and I’m Alicia and we come from Griffith University and QUT. Our specific role is in the area of Adult Learner Engagement. So we have the privilege to speak to you today as students in the Adult Tertiary Preparation Program and we thank your teachers for giving us this opportunity. We’ve been giving this talk to ATP students for many years now and we are looking forward to getting to know some of you and offer support throughout the semester while you study the ATP here at TAFE. We are also very pleased to introduce the student ambassadors to you. They will speak to you a little later about their personal journey into uni and the challenges they have faced and overcome. Firstly, how many of you are thinking of going to university? What courses are you thinking of applying for? What are other reasons why you have decided to ATP? What do you hope to achieve by completing this course? Are you thinking of doing other ATP subjects semester 2, 2016?
- Alicia Well today we are going to focus on the goal of going on to university, though not all of you may be heading there. For those of you who are not thinking of university at this stage, we hope that the presentation may be interesting nonetheless. These are the different topics we will be touching on over the next hour or so. As I said, we will mostly be talking to you about preparing to go to university and furthering your education and draw on the infromation that you already have about this topic. In doing so, we hope to dispel some myths about uni and provide you with useful information and resources to help you with your transition to uni, should you decide to further your education. READ THE OUTLINE DIRECTLY FROM THE SLIDE. What is university experience like? Learning a new language and lots of new processes because of the way it and the study is organised, how to get into uni (ranks), the scholarships that are available, how much does it cost, what’s the financial support out there that I can tap into, which is the best uni for me, and meet someone who has been there before and can tell you what it’s really like. The slide bar across the top will show you how we are progressing along the presentation so you can when we’re almost finished and how long before you can get lunch, a coffee, have a cigarette break ….. But first, Glenda is going to do an ice breaker with us. Glenda ….
- Alicia Well today we are going to focus on the goal of going on to university, though not all of you may be heading there. For those of you who are not thinking of university at this stage, we hope that the presentation may be interesting nonetheless. These are the different topics we will be touching on over the next hour or so. As I said, we will mostly be talking to you about preparing to go to university and furthering your education and draw on the infromation that you already have about this topic. In doing so, we hope to dispel some myths about uni and provide you with useful information and resources to help you with your transition to uni, should you decide to further your education. READ THE OUTLINE DIRECTLY FROM THE SLIDE. What is university experience like? Learning a new language and lots of new processes because of the way it and the study is organised, how to get into uni (ranks), the scholarships that are available, how much does it cost, what’s the financial support out there that I can tap into, which is the best uni for me, and meet someone who has been there before and can tell you what it’s really like. The slide bar across the top will show you how we are progressing along the presentation so you can when we’re almost finished and how long before you can get lunch, a coffee, have a cigarette break ….. But first, Glenda is going to do an ice breaker with us. Glenda ….
- Alicia Bring up all the terms and ask students which ones they’re not sure about and would like more information about ….
- Alicia To get into any Queensland university you need to apply to QTAC. Can anyone tell me what QTAC stands for? Queensland Tertiary Admissions Centre You need two things to “be admitted to uni”, which is the fancy way of saying “getting into a uni course”. A QTAC Selection Rank, usually just called a rank. And pre-requisites The pre-requisites will vary depending on the uni and the uni course you are aiming for but the most common pre-requisite is Senior English with a grade of 4 or, in high school terms, Satisfactory Achievement or just SA. You may know this already, but at university there is a 7 point grade system where 1 is the lowest 4 is a pass and 7 is a high distinction. Is this the same grading system in ATP? (Alicia - I think it’s similar.)
- Alicia So, what rank can you get with a Certificate IV in ATP? Read the screen If GPA did not get discussed or explained on slide 3, Uni Jargon, we may have to explain it here. But you can get a higher rank through the STAT test or the EAS which stands for the Education Access Scheme. We will talk about these two things in a minute, but at this stage we just wanted to point out these are two other ways you can boost your rank. Another way to get a higher rank is to consider doing a diploma at TAFE. This qualification will give you a rank of 87. And yet another way to boost your rank is to do one year of any degree and then upgrade to the degree of your choice. You will get at least a rank of 93 if you pass one year of an undergraduate degree.
- Alicia So, I have now clarified what ‘ranking’ means (from previous slide). Why, then, do you think it is so important? (Ask group) It is important because that forms the basis for you getting accepted into university. And, how do you think you can improve your ranking? (Ask group) You can improve it by completing programs such as this one, having relevant work experience and sitting the STAT test. The highest you can get in the ATP course is a 98 (completed full ATP + STAT), which is an OP 2 and the same for Senior Studies at Senior Colleges with 4-5 subjects completed). You can see the range of rankings and that they vary between degrees and universities and even campuses. This is largely due to the quotas set by the universities and is driven by demand. Some degree programs require sitting of a specific test (e.g. GAMSAT Graduate Medical School Admissions Test for graduate entry programs into Medicine), attending an interview or audition and/or submitting a portfolio (e.g. Qld Conservatorium at Griffith Uni). You can check out the most recent rankings by going on to the QTAC Website: www.qtac.edu.au/Courses/16 January2014cutoffs (16 January 2014 cut-offs) or just go to the home page and put ‘January 2014 round cut-offs’ into the search box and it should come up.
- Alicia Part of choosing where you will study, is understanding why ranks for similar/same courses vary between universities and between campuses at the same university. Does a higher rank at one uni mean they offer a better learning experience and/or are more highly regarded by industry? (the answer is “it depends”) From this slide you will see the effects of supply and demand at work. More central campuses are in higher demand relative to the number of student places, so the rank is driven up. Between universities the more established course at one university, may attract more applicants and so drive up demand. This may or may not mean the course is of a higher quality, with superior resources, higher industry recognition etc. You really have to look deeper. You will also find that unis don’t all offer exactly the same course title, and the units within the course can vary considerably. Another option available for people interested studying nursing at Caboolture is that you can apply to do what’s called a dual award i.e. you can apply through QTAC to study the Diploma of Nursing AND the Bachelor of Nursing both here at Caboolture campus. The diploma takes 18 months and you will get a year of study credits off the three year bachelor degree in nursing which means in total you can get two qualifications in 3.5 years of full-time study. This is one advantage. Also if you want, you can go out and start work as an Enrolled Nurse (EN) after 18 months and graduating with the diploma. You can start studying the degree part-time. Or you could, just for a while, increase your skills and experience working only and then go back to full-time or part-time study at QUT later to get your degree which may also suit your circumstances. So you would be earning and learning at the same time after a year and a half of study. Another advantage is that you can get both qualifications at a campus that you are very familiar with, here at Caboolture. The cost of a dual award will be more expensive though. A diploma costs $11, 600 for the three semesters. A bit less - $10, 424 - for people who qualify for the concession rate i.e. you are listed on an Australian Government Low Income Health Care Card or Pensioner Concession Card, if you are Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander, you hold a Department of Veterans' Affairs Pensioner Concession Card, or if you have a disability. Based on 2015 rates, you will pay a bit over $12,000 to get the degree. In total, a dual award in nursing should cost you about $23, 000 or $24, 000 whereas a single bachelor degree will cost you $18,000. At both TAFE and university you can defer all these costs with a loan from the federal government that you will only have to pay back once you are earning over $53, 000. You have nothing to pay upfront.
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- Glenda Do you want to know how much it costs to get a degree? What do you think are the fees? How can you pay for these fees? HECS- Help – an income contingent loan. Not everyone comes from a wealthy family and most uni students also work on a part time basis. Think long term when you are making decisions about whether uni is affordable or not. Weigh up the cost of the student contribution fees with the type of job you could apply for after uni, and the money you are likely to earn. Tuition fees - known as Student Contribution - is the cost of the degree program you are enrolled in calculated per academic year so the maximum amount is based on eight subjects/courses/units (i.e. 4 each semester). Given that the maximum fees are set by the government which subsidises the cost of university degrees at public universities (e.g. Bond is a private uni and is much more expensive), these fees will vary little between universities. These are the fees for 2014. The fees also vary according to what degree program you enrol in. For example, nursing and education are two of the cheapest degrees at up to $6,044/year full time; and law and medicine are the most expensive at up to $10,085/year full time. For more information, you can check out the webpage listed at the bottom of the table. You can defer your payment through HECS-HELP. In addition to your student contribution fees, there are a number of ‘hidden costs’ that you also need to keep in mind. These include the following: Textbooks which can cost heaps for new ones (i.e. on average, new textbooks cost a minimum of $100 each). Again, this will vary according to what degree program you are enrolled in with Law books, for example, being some of the most expensive. You can get second hand books though usually through the Student Association and students posting notices around campus and online (e.g. Textbook Exchange). Printing of assignments and research papers, stationery, etc. Equipment needed for your degree, such as a stethoscope, photographic supplies (photography, art materials such as canvases, software for animation, lab coats, etc. Transport to and from uni as well as to any work placement sights included in your degree (e.g. nursing, education, social work). Sometimes, this involves moving to a location for a set amount of time and having to pay rent and food costs. So, you need to factor in petrol/rego/insurance/wear & tear of your vehicle and/or bus/train fares (Go Card). Parking at uni can be costly these days. For example, It costs over $200 for general parking ($5.50 daily) annually at Griffith University and at QUT varies by campus (Cab FREE, KG from $6 daily, GP short term only). REMEMBER that, if you are studying full-time, you will not be able to work full-time which makes it more difficult to pay for these additional costs. You should not work more than 15 hours a week as more than that effects academic results!
- Alicia
- Glenda Over $600 worth of free stuff for eligible students Handout bursary applications – Alicia
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