ኦሮሞ እና አማራ በኔ መጣጥፎች አይስማሙም - Oromo and Amhara disagree about my articles
Extreme polarization about my criticism of the Fake Ethiopian Tyranny: Oromos support my position against the Abyssinian tyranny, whereas Amhara depict me as 'enemy' of the colonial state that they have no right to preserve. Republication of excerpts from my articles and discussion in Amharic and English.
Starting from 8th April 2008
Warka - The Pioneering Ethiopian Discussion Forum in Amharic
http://www.cyberethiopia.com/warka14/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27587
(The document includes many pages of the Forum in 177 pages and more than 28000 words; first mention of my name is on p. 17)
8. የሆንክ ጋግርታም ፋሺስት ስዊድን ተቀምጠህ ዜግነት
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by dama978 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:18 pm
I wonder about the nature of extremists. I wonder
how much certain words weigh in their heads. I
wonder how a man million times heavier than a word
buckles him to to stoop to nastiness, a sick psycho,
patheticly cruel, distasteful, mannerless.
I wonder about the psychology of willing offenders.
The logic behind the decision to hurt someone with
little or no justification. How dramati, criminal minds
can be for the slightest of reasons. The consuming
taste they have for their trade of assaults. I wonder
about their passion for their sick pleasures in being
the meanest they can be. The habit of being bad and
enjoying it. I wonder about what makes a person so
dark and evil.
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by አንፌቃ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:19 pm
10. http://www.oromoliberationfront.org/OromiaBriefs.htm
http://www.meadna.com/assets/hornafrposterus.jpg
በነሱ ቤት ኢትዮጲያን ገለው..ቀብረው..ለተስካር የተሰባሰቡ
ጅቦች መሆናቸው ነው...ጉድ እኮ ነው.. :!: :!: :roll:
አንፌቃ ዘብሄረ ኢትዮጲያ
ሜላት_1 wrote:ተመልከቱ ከነእንድርያስ,ሀለቃ,ሞላማሩ,ጸረአጋዚ
እና ሌሎች ሻእብያዎች የተሰጠን የመቶ አመት የቤት ስራ!!
ህልማቸው የተበታተነች እና የተዳከመቸ ኢትዮጵያ የማየት
ህልምምምምምምምምምምምምምምም!! http://www.meadn
a.com/business%20page/front%20page.html
Article-39: The poison of peace, unity, and brotherhood in Ethiopia !!
አንፌቃ ዘብሄረ ኢትዮጲያ
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by dama978 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:21 pm
አንፈቃ
I would suggest that liberation fronts have a role to
play in reforming Ethiopia. I don't belive they are out
to destroy Ethiopian terirtorial integrity unless
otherwise Ethiopia behaves too bad toward the
demands of its own citizens for reform. Hope, the
outcome is not your worst fear. States grow larger or
smaller depending on historical circumstances.
Shewa, a part of old Abyssinia, enlarged by annexing
indepedent kingdoms in the south. Initially, The
11. Shewa rebellion against tewodros was to seperate
from Abyssinia because of their oppression by
Gondar. Ethiopia has become a large geo-political
state comprising south nations and Abyssinia after
the death of Yohannes. The autonomy demand is not
to reduce any ethnic group as you wish to pit one
ethnic group against the other nor is it to seperate
from Ethiopia as you put it, unless compromise and
recocialiation is not achievable. It's only for greater
freedoms in local government administration,
language and culture rights for local use and
developmen.
The rest of your story use code terms that make
refernces to prior knowledge(characterizations,
descriptions of persons or events) in order to be
understood. Unfortunately, I lost you there. I don't
regret it a bit missing hate.
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by እንድሪያስ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:43 pm
ጋሼ ሚላት :- የማይናቅ የስነ ልቦና ስራ ነው እየሰራህ ያለኸው ::
ከአንተ የባሱ ግልቦች በዚህ ፎረም መኖራቸውን ለማረጋገጥ
የሚረዳ ድንቅ ሙከራ ነው ያደረግከው ቅቅቅቅቅቅቅቅ
እኔም ሳላመሰግንህ አላልፍም :: የዋርካን አህዮች በጥቂቱ
ከመንጋው ለይተህ አንድ ጋጣ ውስጥ ስለአሳየኸኝ
15. እንዲያዉም የሚያለቃቅስ ይበዛል ብዬ ሊንኩን
ሳላስተላልፍላችሁ የቀረሁትን ነገር አስታወሳችሁኝ. ይህን ነገር
ካነሳችሁማ እንኩና እዩት:
http://oromiatimes.multiply.com/video/item/108/The_p
ast_and_the_future_of_Ethiopia
ወንድም እስክንድር,
እንዴት ነህ? መስመር ላይ ካየሁህ ሰንበት አልኩ. እረ የሮን የት
ጠፋች?
ሞላ ማሩ,
የኦሮሚኛ ፕሮግራም መክፈቻዉን መዝሙር አንተ ወደ አማርኛ
ተርጉመህእዉ ነዉ ወይስ ከምር አንተ ከላይ እንደጻፍከዉ ነዉ?
የሚዘፈነዉ
"Oromiyaa, Oromiyaa
Biyya Abbaa kiyyaa
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.....
.....
Oromiyaa
Oromiyaa"
የሚለዉ ዘፈን ከሆነ ታዲያ ምን አለበት? "እማማ ጎንደር ጎንደር
..." የሚሉ, ለጎንደር/ ጎጃም/ መንዝ ...የሚዘፈኑ በርካታ ዘፈኖች
እየተሰሙ ነዉ. ታዲያ የኛዋ ኦሮሚያ ስምዋ መነሳቱ ለምን ቅር
አሰኘህ?
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man, you take it." Malcolm X
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by አንፌቃ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:02 pm
ዳማ..
አማርኛ ማንበብ ከቻልክ..መጻፍም እንደምትችል
በመገመት..ቅቅቅ..! የትኛው ነፃ አውጭ ነው የግንባታ ሚና
የሚኖረው..አለቃ..ኖሮትም አያውቅምምምምምምም :!: :!:
ሌላው..የተጠቀምክባቸውን ቃላቶች አልተመቹኝም..ለምሳሌ..
I don't belive they are out to destroy Ethiopian terirtorial
integrity unless otherwise Ethiopia (እንግዲህ እዚህ ላይ
ያንተው ነፃ አውጪዎች የሌላ አገር ተወላጆች መሆናቸው
ነው..ወይንስ በቅኝ ግዛት የተገዙ...ቅቅቅቅ..ኢትዮጲያ ከምትል ወያኔ
ወይም የገዢው መደብ ማለት በቻልክ ነበር. :!: ) behaves too
bad toward the demands of its own citizens for reform.
Hope, the outcome is not your worst fear...እንኳንስ
ለገንፎ..ለሙቅም አልደነግጥ ነው ያለችው ያቺ ነፍጠኛ ያማራ
ሴት (የናንተውን ቃል ልዋስ ብዬ ነው).. :D
Shewa, a part of old Abyssinia, (ኢትዮጲያ ለማለት ነው.
:?: )
The Shewa rebellion against tewodros was to
seperate from Abyssinia because of their oppression
by Gondar...የታሪክ አስተማሪህ ማን ይሆን... :?: :?:
[/quote] Ethiopia has become a large geo-political
state comprising south nations and Abyssinia after
17. the death of Yohannes. [quote]
ለምን ኦነጎች አቢስኒያ የምትለውን ቃል እንደመረጣችሁ
አይገባኝም..በኔ እምነት አቢስኒያ የሚለው ቃል በድሮ ጊዜ
አረቦች ለእኢትዮጲያ የሰጡት ነው እንጂ..በመፅሀፍ ቅዱስም
ቢሆን ያለው ኢትዮጲያ የሚል ነው.. ግን አንድ
የተምታታበት..ዶክትር ነኝ የሚልና እናንተ ልክ እንደ መለአክ
የምታመልኩት ቢጩ Prof. Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin
Megalommatis የሚባል ተርኪ (ይቅርታ ቱርክ) እኢትዮጲያ
ማለት አማራና ትግሬ ነው እያለ ብዙ ጊዜ ለሀጩን
ያዝረከረከ..ባባይ ተፋሰስ ላይ አይኑ እየቀላ ኢትዮጲያን
ለመግደል ብሎም በህዝቦች መካከል ደም መፋሰስ እንዲፈጠር
ከድሮ ጀምሮ ሽንጡን ገትሮ የሚሰራ እናም የግብፅ የስለላ
ድርጅት አባል ነው..ታዲያ ይህ ሰው ነው የተገንጣዮችን ስብሰባ
በተለያየ አገር ስፖንሰር እያስደረገ አናሳ ኢትዮጲያ እንድትፈጠር
መከራውን የሚያይ. :wink: ባንተም ጭንቅላት ውስጥ የአይጥ
መርዝ የነሰነሰ ይመስለኛል.. :!: በኔው እምነት አቢሲኒያ
አመጣጥ እንደ ዶ/ር ሙሀመድ ሳይሆን..
The name Abyssinia, or more properly
Habessinia, is derived from the Arabic word
Habesch, which signifies mixture or confusion,
and was applied to this country by the Arabs on
account of the mixed character of the people.
This was subsequently Latinised by the
Portuguese into Abassia and Abassinos, and
hence the present name. The Abyssinians call
themselves Itiopyavan, and their country Itiopia,
or Manghesta Itiopia, the kingdom of Ethiopia.
http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/A/ABY/abyssin
ia.html
..ከሆነም ማለት ነው. :!:
24. ሕዝብ ጥላቻ ሲዘነዝሩ የኦነግ ጸሐፊዎች ማስካካት ነው::
ሕዝብ ወይስ መንግስት የሚለው ቃል ለፕሮፌሰር
ሻምሳዲንም ሆነ ለኦነግ ጸሐፊዎች ግልጽ የሆነላቸው
አይመስልም::
ትክክል እሆን ይሆን እኔ ፈላስፋው
ካልሆንኩ እስቲ ትክክል ያልሆንኩበትን ቦታ ጠቁሙኝ
ከዛ ደግሞ እመለስበታለሁ
ፈላሳፋው ቆቁ ከኦነግ እና ከፕሮፌሰር ሻምሳዲን በስተጀርባ
ወይም ከፊት ለፊት
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by አስታዉስ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:10 pm
ፈላስፋዉ ቆቁ
አቤት የጥያቄህ መብዛቱ! ፕሮፌሰሩ አማርኛ ማንበብና መጻፍ
የሚችሉ አይመስለኝም. ከዚህ ግምቴ በመነሳት ዋርካ ፎሩም
ይመጣሉ የሚልም ሀሳብ የለኝም. እስቲ ፕሮፌሰሩ ከVoice of
Finfinnee ለተደረገላቸዉ ቃለመጠይቅ ከሰጡት መልሶች ከዚህ
በታች ያለዉ ለጥያቄዎችህ መልስ ይሆናሉ ብዬ ስላሰብኩ
ቀንጨብ አርጌ ላስቀምጥልህ
VF: Your name became popular among some Ethiopian
internet forum participants lately because of your
25. writings on the history of the Horn of Africa and the
Middle East regions. Many participants in the forum
have tried to characterize you with different groups such
as Islamic fundamentalism, member of Egyptian
intelligence, member of Al Qa’eda, enemy of Ethiopia,
hired by the Oromo Liberation Front (OLF). How do you
define yourself as far as what you stand for goes?
Prof: I have no contact with all these numerous groups
that are in conflict with one another! I expressed – not
very much until now but enough I think – a resolute
rejection of the Islamic fundamentalism and extremism. I
consider this movement’s various branches have long
been manipulated by colonial powers, France and
England. I do not consider anyone belonging or
accepting such groups, ideas, and strategies as a real
Muslim. They are miserable victims that help in
professionally and irreversibly denigrating Islam; you can
call them anything from puppets to Satanists. Hatred,
you know, is particular to Satan, according to all the
religions of the world! If we go back to Ancient Egypt, we
learn that the anger, the extremely negative expression,
the hysteria in the discourse are all indications that the
person in question has been ‘invaded’, possessed if you
like, by Seth, the ancient Egyptian ‘Satan’. Now, when I
hear some ‘sheikhs’ in delirium during their supposed
‘khutbah’, the Friday prayer sermon, my mind goes to
Seth! I do not have anything in common with them!
Member of the Egyptian intelligence? This is a funny
reproach, since I have always criticized strongly the
present state of Egypt; what I have repeatedly published
26. about Pan-Arabism, denouncing this falsehood as
colonial tool of infiltration and destruction, contravenes
the basic interests of present day Egypt! How can I work
for a country the policies of which I strongly refute?
Enemy of Abyssinia? I was never! And why should I be?
Enemy of the Ethiopia of the Ancient Greeks and
Romans, i.e. the area of present day Northern and
Eastern Sudan? Why? I loved, studied, and explored the
area, as much as I loved Axumite Abyssinia. I passed
exams on Gueze texts at Sorbonne with Maxime
Rodinson. Why hate? Simply, I specified what is correct
as a term for the national name of the country that has
its capital in a city that they do not call after its original
and true name, Finfinne, but they name ‘Addis Ababa’.
The real name for that country is Abyssinia. Period.
Hired by the OLF? Well, this is also funny! First of all,
there should not be an Oromo Liberation Front; the
Oromo people have their own right to self-determination.
As the majority in the existing country, Oromos must
form the bulk of the army officers, the administration
personnel, and the academia. Oromo language must be
the officiallanguage of the country. Amharic is the
language of a minority; it does not have the status of a
national language. Second, I do not think that the OLF
would seriously hire any scholar who never studied
either Oromo language or any other modern Khammitic
language, Berberic, Haussa, etc! Why for instance
should the OLF hire an Egyptologist? It makes no sense.
That is if the OLF, or any Liberation Front, hires a
scholar whatsoever!
27. How do I define myself? Well, in this regard, I am what I
have always been, namely a Historian, Orientalist,
Egyptologist, who studied the Ancient History of the Red
Sea and the Eastern coast of Africa, as well as the
navigation and the trade from Egypt to India. An
Egyptologist who explored in-depth Ancient Sudan, that
is Ethiopia of the Ancient Greeks, someone who visited
and carefully studied almost all the archeological sites of
Northern and Eastern Sudan. An Egyptologist who
reached Punt – Somalia, out of his love for the famous
text ‘Expedition to Punt’ by Queen Hatshepsut!
VF: You have a very impressive knowledge of history in
general and the history of the Middle East and Horn of
Africa regions in particular. In your discussions, you
seem to focus on historical identity than current reality.
For example, you have indicated that several nations in
the Arab League have non-Arab identity from history’s
perspective, but identify themselves as Arabs. Some
contemporary scholars argue in favor of judging people
on their own merits. How can we bring together such
differing views?
Prof: Well! Good question! We will never! We must go
back to the origin of the two approaches; we will never
bring together, we will never merge, we will never mix
Voltaire with Rousseau! These two 18th c. philosophers
are like oil and water! You opt for this or you choose
that! This is all! Well, this is all, as far as the intellectual,
28. philosophical and academic spheres are concerned. But
when it comes to politics, the transplantation of the
predicament means just wars, wars, and wars!
Thousands, millions of dead and invalid people, just for
the search of a chimera! I believe that with the maturity
of the 20th c. we came to understand that if the Chinese
think they are Chinese, and at the same time the Indians
think they are Chinese too, then perhaps we should
search another planet to settle on! It is not that tragic,
but we simply cannot, the Mankind cannot afford another
war for identity purposes, whenever the identity
becomes the field of demagogic, irrelevant politicians
manipulated by the merchants of the nations. That is
why I believe that it is very serious and very responsible
academic an attitude to dismantle forever the disastrous
spectrum of the Pan-Arabism. At this moment, I prepare
a long series of articles on the subject. Bear in mind that
before it touches politics, it exercises a tremendous
impact on the social development, and creates its own
dynamics. A false identity means always a permanent
underdevelopment. Furthermore, it is not an issue for
disputes only! When an entire people identifies
erroneously its past, let it be with a people that does not
exist anymore, when a people attempts to acquire an
undisputed identity that is not his, the door opens for
ideological extremes, political myths and ideological
inconsistencies that lead to very dangerous fields. You
cannot identify yourself today with the ancient
Sumerians – an unclaimed identity – and go
unpunished! Side effects will lead to ideological
extremes. There is no innocence in such a claim!
But after all, what are the leading countries of the world?
The answer is simple: those where people who know
29. best and more accurately their past. Self-knowledge is
essential for a person, and consequently for a people.
ቃለመጠይቁ ረዥም ነዉና ሙሉዉን ለማንበብ የምትፈልጉ
Voice of Finfinnee ዌብ ሳይት መጎብኘት ትችላላችሁ.
ቆቁ,
መልስ አግኝተሀል የሚል እምነት አለኝ.
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a
man, you take it." Malcolm X
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by አንፌቃ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:40 pm
እንዳው ለቅምሻ ያህል ይህ ቅብዥር ዶክተር ተብዬ ከለቀለቀው
በጥቂቱ...ያም ርእስ ብቻ እንጂ..ዋናውማ አንባቢ ይቁጠረው.
:!: :!: ለምን ይሆን እንዲህ ጭንቅ ጥብብ ያለው. :?: ሌሎች
ደግሞ ስለ ደግነቱ ሊዘክሩን ይሞክራሉ..ነገሩ እባብ መች
ጠፋችንን..ቀንዷ ጉች..ጉች..ያለ አይደል. :D :D ጠያቂው ድምፀ-
ፊንፊኔ..መላሹ ድምፀ ሻምሳዲን..ግሩም የቅብብል ዘፈን
ነው..ድንቅ በማለት ልለፈው !! ያይጥ ምስክሯ..ዲንቢጥ :!: :!:
:!:
የሽምረዲን የኢትዮጲያ (በሱ አባባል ያቢስኒያ. 8) ) ትዝታዎቹ.
:wink:
Mulatu Teshome Interview in Turkish Daily Zaman –
the Neo-Nazi Dogma of Fake ‘Ethiopia’
I call you all to immediately protest writing mails and
forwarding the present article to Pinar Vurucu, editor
of Zaman.
30. The Nile, Egypt, Abyssinia, Somalia, and Somaliland
Recognition of Somaliland or isolation of Hargeysa
are two issues that do not influence the sphere of
Nile politics at all.
Neo-Nazi ‘Ethiopian’ Pseudo-diplomats:
Unrepresentative Liars
if the Iraqi diplomats cannot be accepted at the
international level as possible ‘representatives’ of
Kuwait, how can we suggest that Monophysitic
Amhara and Tigray Abyssinian diplomats may be in a
position to ‘represent’ the Muslim Afars and
Ogadenis, and the Oromos either the latter are
Waqqefanna followers, Muslims or Protestants?
Forest Incineration and Genocidal Practices in
Zenawi Neo-Nazi Ethiopia
The Amhara – Tigray regime of forest incineration
must get immediately eliminated, as Threat against
the Mankind.
Ogaden Communities Petition the EU against the
‘Ethiopian’ Gulag
The criminal, racist and inhuman intention of the
Amhara and Tigray Abyssinians is to either
exterminate great numbers of these nations’
populations or to enforce by all tyrannical means their
assimilation.
Why Europe Cannot Tolerate the Existence of
‘Ethiopia’
Europe cannot tolerate the prevalence of the racist
theory of one ‘Ethiopian’ nation, as this idea
31. demonstrates clearly the Neo-Nazi identity of the
Abyssinian elites.
OLF and Oromos demand Western disapproval of
the Abysso-Nazi Tyrant Zenawi
Categorically denouncing the ‘Ethiopian’ involvement
in Somalia and the Anti-Eritrean animosity of the
Zenawi regime, the OLF leaders held ‘Ethiopia’ as
the basic factor of destabilization of the Horn of Africa
region.
Oromo Sorority, Christian Fraternity, and the
Homosexualization of History
Allan Tulchin pretended that brotherment was not as
we have practiced and considered it but a form of
civil union between male couples!
UN Corruption: WFP feeding Neo-Nazi Army of
‘Ethiopia’, and not Starving Ogadenis
One should expect that the UN WFP employees in
Ogaden would do their best to perform according
their Code of Ethics and deliver food to those who
need it; as it seems, it does not happen this way.
What Foreign Policy for Kosova?
The rise of Prishtina as the World Capital of Morality,
Justice, and Solidarity is the best gift that today’s
Kosovars can offer to themselves and their progeny.
ONLF, the African Fighters for Ogaden’s Liberation
and Democracy
The longer Jendayi Frazer stays in her position the
better for China’s interests in Africa; this situation, at
the time of the Lhasa insurgence, must take a short
32. end.
Oromo Affairs: Basic Readings for Jendayi Frazer
US statesmen, recalling the Principles and the
Values of the Founding Fathers, should be gravely
concerned with the continuation of the oppressive
rule either in Tibet or in Oromia.
Tibetans’ Corpses and Oromos’ Cadavers: Chinese
and ‘Ethiopian’ Crimes
Oromos and Tibetans: similarly oppressed by
‘Ethiopia’ and China
Terminated Yugoslavia – Exploding ‘Ethiopia’
The dismemberment of fake ‘Ethiopia’ could be much
faster than the decomposition of Yugoslavia, so
much rejected by all the oppressed nations the
Abyssinians are.
Ogaden: the Imminent Victory of Abyssinia’s
Tyrannized Somalis
America cannot afford to tolerate the presence of a
single ‘Ethiopian’ soldier on Ogaden’s territory.
Ogaden – the African Kosovo ready for
Independence
It would suffice for the State Department to hire a
pertinent replacement of Ass. Secretary Jendayi
Frazer, a visionary American diplomat who would
demand Peace, Freedom and Respect for Human
Rights in Ogaden.
Asafa Dibaba and Oromo Education, from Theory to
Practice
33. Mr. Dibaba contributes greatly to the development of
a genuine Oromo systematization of modern
educational approaches in view of the formation of an
African Pedagogical Science.
Theoretical Foundations of Oromo Education and
Moral Order
Asafa Dibaba’s criticism of the modern Western
educational approaches and practices consists in a
genuine introduction into an African Pedagogical
Science.
Asafa Dibaba and the Prevalence of the Oromo
Moral Order
Asafa Dibaba’s text demonstrates in and by itself
how much the Mankind owes to the Oromo Nation,
and what the Oromos can offer to us all.
Nunca Mas: Spanish Words for Noble Somalis and
Barbaric Abyssinians
Nunca más, never again, will the Somalis accept the
existence of the Abyssinian barbaric tyranny.
http://www.buzzle.com/authors.asp?author=973
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by አስታዉስ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:54 pm
34. አንፌቃ wrote::D :D ጠያቂው ድምፀ-ፊንፊኔ..መላሹ ድምፀ
ሻምሳዲን..ግሩም የቅብብል ዘፈን ነው..ድንቅ በማለት ልለፈው !!
ያይጥ ምስክሯ..ዲንቢጥ :!: :!: :!:
ለነገሩ መልሱ ላንተ አልነበረም. ወደ ቁምነገሩ ልመለስና ምንጩ
ከ"ድምጺ ወያነ ትግራይ", "ሀገር ፍቅር", "ራዲዮ ፋና" ወይም
"መቃሊህ ያሬድ" ከሚባሉ የወያኔ መተንፈሻዎች ቢሆን ኖሮ
ያለማመንታት ትቀበለዉ ነበር አይደል?
"ዘመነ ግልምብጥ, ዉሻ ወደ ግጦሽ አህያ ወደ ሊጥ" አሉ
ሰዉዬዉ. ፍንፍኔ ከመግባታቸዉ በፊት ትግራይን ነጻ
ለማዉጣት ይታገሉ የነበሩ, እስከዛሬ ድረስ እንክዋን "Tigrean
Peoples Liberation Front" ተብለዉ የሚጠሩ, ደስ ሲላቸዉ
ድንበር ቆርጠዉ ለጎረቤት ሀገር የሚሸልሙ, ደስ ሲላቸዉ
"ድንበራችን ተወረረ" እያሉ የሚያላዝኑ ወያኔዎች እስቲ
ለኢትዮጲያዊነት መንፈስ ሲፍጨረጨሩ አያስቅም? ዉስጣችሁን
እያወቅነዉ ለምን ልታታልሉን ትሞክራላችሁ? Go! Let your
Great Tigray be free! Leave us alone!
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by አንፌቃ » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:26 pm
ጌታው..በጣም መስመር ለቀክ...አንተ ጋ አልደረስኩብህም ነበር.
:wink: ለነገሩ አንተ ማን መሆንህ ነው. :?: ሁለታችሁም እኮ
ጥቅም አጋጫችሁ እንጂ...የመተዳደሪያ ሰነዱን (አንቀፅ 39) እኮ
አብራችሁ በለንደን ላይ አፅድቃችሁ ነበር.. ያዛሬን አያርገው.
:lol:
50. ባሪያ መሸጥ የኑሮ ዘዴ ነበር ባሪያ ገዢ ባይኖር ኖሮ ?
ለምን አረቦች በዚህ የባሪያ ንግድ ከመጀመሪያው ጀምሮ
ተሰማሩ :?:
ማን ነበር ባሪያ ሲገዛ የነበረው?
በየት በኩል ነበር የባሪያ ንግድ የነበረው ?
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by ጉግል » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:40 pm
ሜላት_1 wrote:ከእንድርያስ የተዘጋጀልን የኢትዮጵያ ካርታ !!
የማይመስል ነገር ! እንድርያስ እንኳን ካርታ ሊያዘጋጅ ጫማዉን
በትክክል ማሰር የማይችል ነው :: ከሱ ይልቅ ህዝባዊ ወያኔ
ሀርነት ትግራይ ያዘጋጀው ካርታ የታል ?
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by dama978 » Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:49 pm
51. Dr.Shamsuddin,
This Orientalist is a Greek Orthodox born in Athens
from a Turkis and greek parents and lives in Cairo
now. His specialities are ancient middleastern
history, art, language and culture. He has post-
doctoral qualifications from several universities in
Europe, America and Middleast. A consumate writer
and factual to great details.
He used to be a regular contributor of highly
researched articles to the Yemen Times. He had
been interviewed several times by the paper. If I
remeber correctly, he was appointed advisor to the
Ministry of Culture in Yemeni government. In other
words, he helped reconstruct the Yemeni culture. he
also served as director on Egypt's ancient culture
such Musuems.
Around 2005, he started publishing works on
Ethiopia, in general. After a while, he started
concentrationg on the progressive reform movements
in Ethiopia. Enemies of Ethiopia's poltical progress
certainly call him bad names for exposing their
crimes. But, he means well for the Ethiopian peoples'
political progress. I would suggest let's embrace his
call to Ethiopians to empower the subjugated people
of Ethiopia with freedoms Ethiopia stollen. Only
happy and harmonius people can live together and
prosper. Or else, live a life of misery and violence.
The first step to the road of compromise and
reconcilation is to end your venomous ethinc hatred,
aggression and chauvinism. Stop calling for civil
wars, stop breaking the country into shattered
52. glasses. Stop washing your dirty mouths with the
spirit of Ethiopianness. Stop and think! Ask yourself:
What have we done to hurt Ethiopians that they are
up with arms?
Stop cursing Tigray, Oromo for Amara. Only the
deadenders like AAPO, KINIJIT and ProfAs would
miss the historical imperative for the existence of
liberation movements. In reaction to the above, under
their feet, right now, new liberation fronts are being
formed or they are in the process of formation as
developments indicate. Reactionaries to history's
forward movement are doomed to fail. Progressives
and rational thinkers ought to reject movements back
to the buried past.
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by እንድሪያስ » Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:34 pm
ቅቅቅቅቅቅቅቅ ገንፎው ምን እያልክ ነው ? "ዋርካ ውስጥ ከእኔ
ጋር ሲጋፋ የሚውል ሁሉ እንደ እኔው አህያ ነው"- ነው የምትለው
?
በነገራችን ላይ ሰዎችን በገዛ ራስህ ሚዛን ላይ ማስቀመጥህ
ደደብነትክን ቢያሳይም መጠራጠር መጀመርህን ወድጀዋለሁ ::
የሰውነት ባህርይ ማንጸባረቅ ጀምርሀል ቅቅቅቅቅቅቅቅ አምላክ
ይመስገን ::
54. Stop cursing Tigray, Oromo for Amara. Only the
deadenders like AAPO, KINIJIT and ProfAs would miss
the historical imperative for the existence of liberation
movements.
I don't get it..What do you mean?
In reaction to the above, under their feet, right now, new
liberation fronts are being formed or they are in the
process of formation as developments indicate.
ማነው ባለተረኛ. :wink: እነማን ናቸው በነገራችን ላይ..ወይንስ
ሚስጥር ነው. :wink:
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by ዲጎኔ » Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:06 pm
Dear Dama
With due great respect to your thought I wish to say
few about the ongoing topic here.As a matter of fact I
have never read any extreem hatred words from
those parties you mention.The worst condemnation I
55. read usually from those Liberation movements by the
respective ethinic groups be Amhara.Oromo or
Tigray.
Now we need to be reconciled and find a means to
live peacefully and do not pass these curse to the
next generation.I do not know about this Shamsadin
but there are some elites who bring the ethinic
problem to th extreem and there are those who deny
ethinic/national opression against the Oromo and
southeren people.
As for me being born of these ethinic groups of
Ethiopia,I prefer a real fedral estabilishement that can
gurantee justice for all led by majority consenses free
from any divisive tribal or religious options.
The current Ethiopia is reaching her size and status
by the blood and bones of all warriors of all ethinic
groups begining with the wise leaders of Haftegiorgis
Denegde(Aba mala,father of wisdom) who
challenged the British colonials in demarking the
current Borrena to Ethiopia.
The map referred here never wprks for the cureent
Africa as the boundary already estabilished based on
the colonial boundary that was not considering
ethinicity and other common factors but the
advantage of colonial masters at the scrumbling of
Africa.Look how little Somalia divided into
British,French and Italian somalia and so on.If this
map is a blue -print of proper federal map for Africa
some of my African friends keep laughing on us that
we are going to suggest the state of Kalanjini,Kukuyu
,Masssai,Oromo in Kenya and the state of Hawza,
Youruba ,Ebo &,Egonie in Nigeria. This is very
utopian and all those African states estabilished now
56. wise boundary of their respective states like
North,South or a common name among the ethinic
groups claimimg the area.What ethinic nationality you
think approperiate for Diredawa? I have been to
Diredawa and all ethinic gropus from The Issa
,Oromo,Somali , Gurage and Amhara claim the
ownership of the land and that is the reason
Diredawa is under the Federarl government.Same
problem arise for most of Southern ethinic groups
that brings bloodshed from time to time .Watch out
brother!
Degone Morete,Desendent of Cushtic,Nylotic
Semetic Ethiopia
dama978 wrote:Dr.Shamsuddin,
This Orientalist is a Greek Orthodox born in Athens from
a Turkis and greek parents and lives in Cairo now. His
specialities are ancient middleastern history, art,
language and culture. He has post-doctoral
qualifications from several universities in Europe,
America and Middleast. A consumate writer and factual
to great details.
He used to be a regular contributor of highly researched
articles to the Yemen Times. He had been interviewed
several times by the paper. If I remeber correctly, he
was appointed advisor to the Ministry of Culture in
Yemeni government. In other words, he helped
reconstruct the Yemeni culture. he also served as
director on Egypt's ancient culture such Musuems.
Around 2005, he started publishing works on Ethiopia, in
general. After a while, he started concentrationg on the
progressive reform movements in Ethiopia. Enemies of
57. Ethiopia's poltical progress certainly call him bad names
for exposing their crimes. But, he means well for the
Ethiopian peoples' political progress. I would suggest
let's embrace his call to Ethiopians to empower the
subjugated people of Ethiopia with freedoms Ethiopia
stollen. Only happy and harmonius people can live
together and prosper. Or else, live a life of misery and
violence.
The first step to the road of compromise and
reconcilation is to end your venomous ethinc hatred,
aggression and chauvinism. Stop calling for civil wars,
stop breaking the country into shattered glasses. Stop
washing your dirty mouths with the spirit of
Ethiopianness. Stop and think! Ask yourself: What have
we done to hurt Ethiopians that they are up with arms?
Stop cursing Tigray, Oromo for Amara. Only the
deadenders like AAPO, KINIJIT and ProfAs would miss
the historical imperative for the existence of liberation
movements. In reaction to the above, under their feet,
right now, new liberation fronts are being formed or they
are in the process of formation as developments
indicate. Reactionaries to history's forward movement
are doomed to fail. Progressives and rational thinkers
ought to reject movements back to the buried past.
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by ቆቁ » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:21 pm
dama978 wrote:Dr.Shamsuddin,
This Orientalist is a Greek Orthodox born in Athens from
a Turkis and greek parents and lives in Cairo now. His
specialities are ancient middleastern history, art,
language and culture. He has post-doctoral
qualifications from several universities in Europe,
America and Middleast. A consumate writer and factual
to great details.
He used to be a regular contributor of highly researched
articles to the Yemen Times. He had been interviewed
several times by the paper. If I remeber correctly, he
was appointed advisor to the Ministry of Culture in
Yemeni government. In other words, he helped
reconstruct the Yemeni culture. he also served as
director on Egypt's ancient culture such Musuems.
Around 2005, he started publishing works on Ethiopia, in
general. After a while, he started concentrationg on the
progressive reform movements in Ethiopia. Enemies of
Ethiopia's poltical progress certainly call him bad names
for exposing their crimes. But, he means well for the
Ethiopian peoples' political progress. I would suggest
let's embrace his call to Ethiopians to empower the
subjugated people of Ethiopia with freedoms Ethiopia
stollen. Only happy and harmonius people can live
together and prosper. Or else, live a life of misery and
violence.
The first step to the road of compromise and
reconcilation is to end your venomous ethinc hatred,
aggression and chauvinism. Stop calling for civil wars,
stop breaking the country into shattered glasses. Stop
washing your dirty mouths with the spirit of
59. Ethiopianness. Stop and think! Ask yourself: What have
we done to hurt Ethiopians that they are up with arms?
Stop cursing Tigray, Oromo for Amara. Only the
deadenders like AAPO, KINIJIT and ProfAs would miss
the historical imperative for the existence of liberation
movements. In reaction to the above, under their feet,
right now, new liberation fronts are being formed or they
are in the process of formation as developments
indicate. Reactionaries to history's forward movement
are doomed to fail. Progressives and rational thinkers
ought to reject movements back to the buried past.
ዳማ ወይም አስታውስ ወይም ናማ ኦሮሞ ወይም የፊንፊኔ እና
የኦነግ የዌብ ሳይት ጸሐፊዎች ራሱ ፕሮፌሰር ሸመድማዳውን
ጨምሮ
ቀስ በቀስ እያንዳንዱን የፕሮፌሰር ሸመድማዳውን ጽሁፍ
አበጥረን ለመመልከት ልቦና ይስጠንና እንጀምር ይላል
ፈላስፋው ቆቁ
ፕሮፌሰረ ሸመድማዳው ግሪክ ተማረ አሜሪካን ወይም ማርስ
ላይ ተማረ የሚያስደንቅ ነገር የለም :: ማንም የመማር መብት
አለው የመማር እድል አለው
የባሪያ ንግድን በሚመለከት አስታውስ ባቀረበው የንግስት
ኤልሳቤጥ ቁዋንቁዋ በተራ ቁጥር ሁለት ላይ የተጻፈውን
የሚመለከት ይሆናል
ተራ ቁጥር አንድን እንመለስበታለን
65. በውሸት ሓገርም ሆነ ድርጅት አይገነባም :
ቁጥር 11
prohibition of any publication in languages other than
Amharic and Tigrinya..This measure has been
prolonged until today with the exception of Somali and
Oromo languages , which have been recenetly allowed,
under condition that the texts printed straightforwardly
oppose the general and overwhelming desire of the
Oromos and all the Ogadeni Somalis for secession ,
freedom and national independence .
መቼ ነው የትግሪኛ ቁዋንቁዋ በጽሁፍ ደረጃ የወጣበት ዘመን ?
ይህንን የሚያስረዳኝ ይኖር ይሆን ?
ለምን ቁጥር 3 እና ቁጥር 11 እርስ በራሳቸው ይቃረናሉ :?:
ፕሮፌሰር ሸምድማዳው በግሪኮች ፓራዶክስ ውስጥ ስለለፈ
ይሆን ?
አንድ ጊዜ ሙሉ በሙሉ ተከልክሎል ብሎ ሌላ ጊዜ ደግሞ በአሁኑ
መንግስት የተፈቀዱ አሉ ማለት ምን ማለት ነው ::
መቀላመድ ::
ሌላው ደግሞ የሌሎችን ቁዋንቁዋ በጽሁፍ መልክ ለማቅረብ እና
ለማሳደግ የሚወጣው ጉልበትን እና ገንዘብ እንደ ኢትዮጵያ ባሉ
ሐገሮች ምንኛ ያህል አስቸጋሪ መሆኑን አለመገንዘብ ስምን
ይባላል ?