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Perspectives from selling back into the
customer base
Upselling and cross-selling the HubSpot portfolio
Expansion MRR is upselling and cross-selling
• Started the INBOUND marketing
movement
• MIT-born, Boston-based
• Content including Ads, Marketing
Automation, CRM, Productivity and
Reporting
• 20,000+ small and mid-size
customers
• Price-points from free to $10K/mo
• $250M subscription-based revenue
• Global Director of Sales
Engineering and Customer Sales
• Engineer by training
• Came to sales by way of sales
consulting in the enterprise space
Designing a upsell /cross-sell team
Sizing up the opportunity (Strategic)
Points of lead capture (Tactical)
Staffing the sales team (Tactical)
Goal Setting & Measurement
Lessons we’ve learned
• Determine your target
persona/company?
• How many of those personas exist in
your customer base?
• How fast do you expect them to adopt
the solution?
Sizing up the opportunity
Sizing up the opportunity
● Determine your target persona/company?
○ Marketers that value SEM and social ads -- 50-60%
● How many of those personas exist in your customer base?
○ 50% had connected social accounts
○ 15% had paid sources for referring sites
○ 5% used URL conversion tracking
Initial guessimate was 10% adoption --
● How fast do you expect them to adopt the solution? NO IDEA
Points of lead capture
Who communicates with your persona and what is their incentives?
• support team on an ad-hoc basis - no natural incentive
• customer success team on a quarterly basis - strong incentive
• marketing via content marketing campaigns and tool creation - it’s their job
What does your persona do in the app?
• performs keyword planning, create content, publish and measure results
What constitutes a lead?
• customer currently running ads or looking to start in the near term
• customer with a successful content marketing program
What is your desired call-to-action (CTA)?
• drive inbound demand to a DEMO or TRIAL
Staffing the sales team
Staffing the sales team
● Triangulating quota, tenure, velocity and skills
~500K ARR
quota
1-3 years
experience
Staffing the sales team
● Velocity of the cross-sell -
○ $100 MRR, 1-2 hour sale, 40-60 deals closed per month
○ $200 MRR, 2-3 hour sale, 20-40 deals closed per month
● How difficult is it to close a deal internally?
○ Out-of-box Terms-of-service (TOS)
○ Minimal order management overhead
Staffing the sales team
● Skill-mix
○ Product-oriented sale
○ Shorter duration
○ Less touch-points
Functional Sales
TechnicalProduct BDR/S
DR
HUNTE
R
SALES
ENGINEER
CROSS-SELL
FARMER
Goal Setting
● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g.
○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month
● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP
Each Rep:
● ACV: $2400 (<$5K)
● Annual Quota = $576K
● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs
● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
Goal Setting
● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g.
○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month
● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP
Each Rep:
● ACV: $2400 (<$5K)
● Annual Quota = $576K
● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs
● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
Goal Setting
Allocate lead goals to
marketing and customer
success (50/50)
● Marketing lead to
close - 5:1 -> 200
leads
● Customer success
lead to close - 2:1 ->
80 leads
Measurement
W1 = 50%, W2 = 75%, W3 = 90%, W4 ->Over-achieve
Lessons Learned
• Align to lead sources
• Specialists vs. Generalists
• Automate as much as possible
o Email automation
o Meeting Automation
• Make the reps part of the larger sales org
• Let’s them sync with product, let them sync with marketing
o Pointy edge of the spear
• Have a mini-onboarding service
• Connect everyone on collaboration services
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"Perspective from selling back into the customer base" at SaaS North 2016

  • 1. Perspectives from selling back into the customer base Upselling and cross-selling the HubSpot portfolio
  • 2. Expansion MRR is upselling and cross-selling
  • 3. • Started the INBOUND marketing movement • MIT-born, Boston-based • Content including Ads, Marketing Automation, CRM, Productivity and Reporting • 20,000+ small and mid-size customers • Price-points from free to $10K/mo • $250M subscription-based revenue • Global Director of Sales Engineering and Customer Sales • Engineer by training • Came to sales by way of sales consulting in the enterprise space
  • 4. Designing a upsell /cross-sell team Sizing up the opportunity (Strategic) Points of lead capture (Tactical) Staffing the sales team (Tactical) Goal Setting & Measurement Lessons we’ve learned
  • 5.
  • 6.
  • 7. • Determine your target persona/company? • How many of those personas exist in your customer base? • How fast do you expect them to adopt the solution? Sizing up the opportunity
  • 8.
  • 9. Sizing up the opportunity ● Determine your target persona/company? ○ Marketers that value SEM and social ads -- 50-60% ● How many of those personas exist in your customer base? ○ 50% had connected social accounts ○ 15% had paid sources for referring sites ○ 5% used URL conversion tracking Initial guessimate was 10% adoption -- ● How fast do you expect them to adopt the solution? NO IDEA
  • 10. Points of lead capture Who communicates with your persona and what is their incentives? • support team on an ad-hoc basis - no natural incentive • customer success team on a quarterly basis - strong incentive • marketing via content marketing campaigns and tool creation - it’s their job What does your persona do in the app? • performs keyword planning, create content, publish and measure results What constitutes a lead? • customer currently running ads or looking to start in the near term • customer with a successful content marketing program What is your desired call-to-action (CTA)? • drive inbound demand to a DEMO or TRIAL
  • 12. Staffing the sales team ● Triangulating quota, tenure, velocity and skills ~500K ARR quota 1-3 years experience
  • 13. Staffing the sales team ● Velocity of the cross-sell - ○ $100 MRR, 1-2 hour sale, 40-60 deals closed per month ○ $200 MRR, 2-3 hour sale, 20-40 deals closed per month ● How difficult is it to close a deal internally? ○ Out-of-box Terms-of-service (TOS) ○ Minimal order management overhead
  • 14. Staffing the sales team ● Skill-mix ○ Product-oriented sale ○ Shorter duration ○ Less touch-points Functional Sales TechnicalProduct BDR/S DR HUNTE R SALES ENGINEER CROSS-SELL FARMER
  • 15. Goal Setting ● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g. ○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month ● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP Each Rep: ● ACV: $2400 (<$5K) ● Annual Quota = $576K ● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs ● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
  • 16. Goal Setting ● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g. ○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month ● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP Each Rep: ● ACV: $2400 (<$5K) ● Annual Quota = $576K ● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs ● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
  • 17. Goal Setting Allocate lead goals to marketing and customer success (50/50) ● Marketing lead to close - 5:1 -> 200 leads ● Customer success lead to close - 2:1 -> 80 leads
  • 19. W1 = 50%, W2 = 75%, W3 = 90%, W4 ->Over-achieve
  • 20. Lessons Learned • Align to lead sources • Specialists vs. Generalists • Automate as much as possible o Email automation o Meeting Automation • Make the reps part of the larger sales org • Let’s them sync with product, let them sync with marketing o Pointy edge of the spear • Have a mini-onboarding service • Connect everyone on collaboration services

Editor's Notes

  1. These past ninety days are the next chapter in my career. I want to thank each and every one of you for welcoming me and letting me share my viewpoint. I know I have asked a ton of ignorant questions of you, challenged you on status quo and gotten into your business more than you are used to. My goal is to make you the best sales engineers possible while hitting our targets and enhance your skills to get you ready for your next job. If I can do that we will have succeeded together. I am really impressed how you operate as a team. Sharing use-cases, mentoring each other, support each other on vacations. It is enduring and part of our culture. I am very glad I landed with this team.
  2. These past ninety days are the next chapter in my career. I want to thank each and every one of you for welcoming me and letting me share my viewpoint. I know I have asked a ton of ignorant questions of you, challenged you on status quo and gotten into your business more than you are used to. My goal is to make you the best sales engineers possible while hitting our targets and enhance your skills to get you ready for your next job. If I can do that we will have succeeded together. I am really impressed how you operate as a team. Sharing use-cases, mentoring each other, support each other on vacations. It is enduring and part of our culture. I am very glad I landed with this team.