HubSpot's Global Director of Sales Engineering and Customer Sales Michael Currie discusses the resources and strategy a SaaS business needs to upsell to its existing user base.
3. • Started the INBOUND marketing
movement
• MIT-born, Boston-based
• Content including Ads, Marketing
Automation, CRM, Productivity and
Reporting
• 20,000+ small and mid-size
customers
• Price-points from free to $10K/mo
• $250M subscription-based revenue
• Global Director of Sales
Engineering and Customer Sales
• Engineer by training
• Came to sales by way of sales
consulting in the enterprise space
4. Designing a upsell /cross-sell team
Sizing up the opportunity (Strategic)
Points of lead capture (Tactical)
Staffing the sales team (Tactical)
Goal Setting & Measurement
Lessons we’ve learned
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7. • Determine your target
persona/company?
• How many of those personas exist in
your customer base?
• How fast do you expect them to adopt
the solution?
Sizing up the opportunity
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9. Sizing up the opportunity
● Determine your target persona/company?
○ Marketers that value SEM and social ads -- 50-60%
● How many of those personas exist in your customer base?
○ 50% had connected social accounts
○ 15% had paid sources for referring sites
○ 5% used URL conversion tracking
Initial guessimate was 10% adoption --
● How fast do you expect them to adopt the solution? NO IDEA
10. Points of lead capture
Who communicates with your persona and what is their incentives?
• support team on an ad-hoc basis - no natural incentive
• customer success team on a quarterly basis - strong incentive
• marketing via content marketing campaigns and tool creation - it’s their job
What does your persona do in the app?
• performs keyword planning, create content, publish and measure results
What constitutes a lead?
• customer currently running ads or looking to start in the near term
• customer with a successful content marketing program
What is your desired call-to-action (CTA)?
• drive inbound demand to a DEMO or TRIAL
12. Staffing the sales team
● Triangulating quota, tenure, velocity and skills
~500K ARR
quota
1-3 years
experience
13. Staffing the sales team
● Velocity of the cross-sell -
○ $100 MRR, 1-2 hour sale, 40-60 deals closed per month
○ $200 MRR, 2-3 hour sale, 20-40 deals closed per month
● How difficult is it to close a deal internally?
○ Out-of-box Terms-of-service (TOS)
○ Minimal order management overhead
14. Staffing the sales team
● Skill-mix
○ Product-oriented sale
○ Shorter duration
○ Less touch-points
Functional Sales
TechnicalProduct BDR/S
DR
HUNTE
R
SALES
ENGINEER
CROSS-SELL
FARMER
15. Goal Setting
● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g.
○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month
● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP
Each Rep:
● ACV: $2400 (<$5K)
● Annual Quota = $576K
● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs
● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
16. Goal Setting
● Start with the hi-level adoption goal, e.g.
○ Achieve 10% adoption in 24 months → 80 deals per month
● Achieved by 4 quota carriers @ 20 deals per month w $200/mo ASP
Each Rep:
● ACV: $2400 (<$5K)
● Annual Quota = $576K
● Tenure Range = 1-3 yrs
● Transactional sale of 20 deals per month
17. Goal Setting
Allocate lead goals to
marketing and customer
success (50/50)
● Marketing lead to
close - 5:1 -> 200
leads
● Customer success
lead to close - 2:1 ->
80 leads
20. Lessons Learned
• Align to lead sources
• Specialists vs. Generalists
• Automate as much as possible
o Email automation
o Meeting Automation
• Make the reps part of the larger sales org
• Let’s them sync with product, let them sync with marketing
o Pointy edge of the spear
• Have a mini-onboarding service
• Connect everyone on collaboration services
These past ninety days are the next chapter in my career. I want to thank each and every one of you for welcoming me and letting me share my viewpoint. I know I have asked a ton of ignorant questions of you, challenged you on status quo and gotten into your business more than you are used to. My goal is to make you the best sales engineers possible while hitting our targets and enhance your skills to get you ready for your next job. If I can do that we will have succeeded together.
I am really impressed how you operate as a team. Sharing use-cases, mentoring each other, support each other on vacations. It is enduring and part of our culture. I am very glad I landed with this team.
These past ninety days are the next chapter in my career. I want to thank each and every one of you for welcoming me and letting me share my viewpoint. I know I have asked a ton of ignorant questions of you, challenged you on status quo and gotten into your business more than you are used to. My goal is to make you the best sales engineers possible while hitting our targets and enhance your skills to get you ready for your next job. If I can do that we will have succeeded together.
I am really impressed how you operate as a team. Sharing use-cases, mentoring each other, support each other on vacations. It is enduring and part of our culture. I am very glad I landed with this team.