Why Choose Engineering or Computer Science

1. Why Choose EngineeringWhy Choose Engineering
or Computer Science?or Computer Science?
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2. What predisposes a person toWhat predisposes a person to
be a good candidate?be a good candidate?
Did you all of aDid you all of a
sudden just decide?sudden just decide?
Probably not.Probably not.

3. A student who likes EngineeringA student who likes Engineering
or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...
Likes observing, learning and analyzing,Likes observing, learning and analyzing,
and might appear quiet and pensiveand might appear quiet and pensive
in class.in class.
Might be musically talented -Might be musically talented -
play a musical instrumentplay a musical instrument
Likes strategy games:Likes strategy games:
chess, checkers,chess, checkers,
computer gamescomputer games

4. A student who likes EngineeringA student who likes Engineering
or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...
Is good atIs good at andand likes math -likes math -
enjoys math problemsenjoys math problems
Is a problem solver -Is a problem solver -
enjoys the challengeenjoys the challenge
Is good at fixing things -Is good at fixing things -
enjoys pulling things apart and seeingenjoys pulling things apart and seeing
how they workhow they work

5. A student who likes EngineeringA student who likes Engineering
or Computer Science frequently...or Computer Science frequently...
Likes working on computers, cars,Likes working on computers, cars,
motorcycles, bikes, vacuum cleaners,motorcycles, bikes, vacuum cleaners,
sewing machines, etc.sewing machines, etc.
Likes being out-of-doors, hiking orLikes being out-of-doors, hiking or
backpacking or doing athletic thingsbackpacking or doing athletic things
Likes working with tools and buildingLikes working with tools and building
thingsthings

6. Why choose EngineeringWhy choose Engineering
or Computer Science?or Computer Science?
Although E&CS grads make upAlthough E&CS grads make up
aboutabout 5-7%5-7% of the annual graduatesof the annual graduates
nationwide…nationwide…
they receivethey receive 40-50%40-50%
of the offers ofof the offers of
employment each year.employment each year.
Source: National Assn. ofSource: National Assn. of
Colleges & EmployersColleges & Employers

7. Who Hires Engineers?Who Hires Engineers?
 Demand for Engineers and Computer Scientists isDemand for Engineers and Computer Scientists is
fueled for the need to do solve problems, to createfueled for the need to do solve problems, to create
infrastructure, and to do thingsinfrastructure, and to do things better, cheaper,better, cheaper,
quickerquicker… (I want an iPhone!)… (I want an iPhone!)
 Who’s hiring?Who’s hiring?
 GovernmentGovernment
 Construction FirmsConstruction Firms
 Consulting FirmsConsulting Firms
 Engineering ServicesEngineering Services
 ManufacturingManufacturing
 Construction ManagementConstruction Management
 DefenseDefense
 Energy - UtilitiesEnergy - Utilities

8. Career Day HistoryCareer Day History
0
20
40
60
80
100
120
‘97 ‘99 ‘01 ‘03 ‘05 ‘07‘06‘04‘02‘00‘98
No.ofCompanies
Attendance by year
55 56
65
73 75
48
43
36
67
105
123
140
130
73
‘08 ‘09
51
‘10

9. 51 Companies51 Companies
AttendingAttending
Career DayCareer Day
Percentage of Jobs at Career Day
0 20 40 60 80
MET
ME
EEE
CS
CpE
CM
CE
1,624
Openings!
1,624
Openings!

10. What is Fueling Current &What is Fueling Current &
Near Future Demand?Near Future Demand?
In 2007 California passed bonds that fuelIn 2007 California passed bonds that fuel
demand for engineers:demand for engineers:
 Spending for California infrastructure:Spending for California infrastructure:
37.3 billion for transportation projects37.3 billion for transportation projects
29.4 billion for dams, schools, and29.4 billion for dams, schools, and
courthousescourthouses
13.9 billion in revenue bonds for prisons,13.9 billion in revenue bonds for prisons,
water storage, and other small expenseswater storage, and other small expenses
10,000 new classrooms, renovate 38,00010,000 new classrooms, renovate 38,000

11. Federal Dollars from the StimulusFederal Dollars from the Stimulus
Package is starting to flowPackage is starting to flow
Obama’s stimulus package promises toObama’s stimulus package promises to
increase the demand for engineers andincrease the demand for engineers and
computer scientists in such fields as:computer scientists in such fields as:
 Environment – Energy Efficient BuildingEnvironment – Energy Efficient Building
RetrofittingRetrofitting
 E HealthE Health
 Transportation Infrastructure – including HighTransportation Infrastructure – including High
Speed RailSpeed Rail
 Energy - Smart Grid (CSUS will receive $905,348Energy - Smart Grid (CSUS will receive $905,348
total Smart Grid funding)total Smart Grid funding)

12. Sacramento cyber security firm extendsSacramento cyber security firm extends
contract with DHScontract with DHS – Sacramento Business– Sacramento Business
Journal-March 5, 2010Journal-March 5, 2010
Stimulus funds available to help healthStimulus funds available to help health
providers pay for switch to electronic recordsproviders pay for switch to electronic records ––
Sacramento Business Journal-March 5, 2010Sacramento Business Journal-March 5, 2010
Uncle Sam wants cyber-security prosUncle Sam wants cyber-security pros – San– San
Francisco Chronicle-April 2, 2010Francisco Chronicle-April 2, 2010
Recent Headlines:

13. We take Engineers for grantedWe take Engineers for granted
Until there is a problem.Until there is a problem.
 Levees - Katrina (Sacramento)Levees - Katrina (Sacramento)
 Earth QuakesEarth Quakes
 Power FailuresPower Failures
 Border SecurityBorder Security
 Computer SecurityComputer Security
 Energy ProblemsEnergy Problems
 Climate ChangeClimate Change
 Regional Growth &Regional Growth &
Clogged FreewaysClogged Freeways

14. 2008-2018 Job Outlook:2008-2018 Job Outlook:
Growth Rates for E&CS Occupations...Growth Rates for E&CS Occupations...
Source: Occupational Outlook Quarterly, Spring 2010Source: Occupational Outlook Quarterly, Spring 2010
OccupationOccupation EmploymentEmployment
20082008
Employment GrowthEmployment Growth
Projected 2008-2018Projected 2008-2018
Numeric (Percent)Numeric (Percent)
Computer & Info. Systems ManagersComputer & Info. Systems Managers 293,000293,000 49,500 (17%)49,500 (17%)
Construction ManagersConstruction Managers 551,000551,000 94,800 (17%)94,800 (17%)
Engineering and Natural SciencesEngineering and Natural Sciences
ManagersManagers
228,700228,700 18,200 (8%)18,200 (8%)
Cost EstimatorsCost Estimators 217,800217,800 55,200 (25%)55,200 (25%)
Computer Programmers andComputer Programmers and
Computer Software EngineersComputer Software Engineers
1,336,3001,336,300 283,000 (21%)283,000 (21%)
Computer ScientistsComputer Scientists 28,90028,900 7,000 (24%)7,000 (24%)
Computer Network, Systems, andComputer Network, Systems, and
Database AdministratorsDatabase Administrators
961,200961,200 286,600 (30%)286,600 (30%)
Computer Support SpecialistsComputer Support Specialists 565,700565,700 78,000 (14%)78,000 (14%)
Computer System AnalystsComputer System Analysts 532,200532,200 108,100 (20%)108,100 (20%)

15. High demandHigh demand
Advancing technology forcesAdvancing technology forces
companies to constantly improve andcompanies to constantly improve and
update product designs.update product designs.
More engineers will be neededMore engineers will be needed
to improve deteriorating roads, bridges,to improve deteriorating roads, bridges,
water and pollution control systems andwater and pollution control systems and
other public facilities.other public facilities.

16. High demandHigh demand
Engineering graduates are more likelyEngineering graduates are more likely
to obtain employment in their fields thanto obtain employment in their fields than
most other graduates.most other graduates.
Recent graduates in engineering willRecent graduates in engineering will
continue to be in high demand for theircontinue to be in high demand for their
high tech solutions to problems ashigh tech solutions to problems as
employers seek to increase efficiencyemployers seek to increase efficiency
and output of goods and services...and output of goods and services...

17. Occupations with the most projected growth (2008-2018)Occupations with the most projected growth (2008-2018)
that usually require a bachelor’s degreethat usually require a bachelor’s degree
Occupation Projected growthProjected growth
by the thousandsby the thousands
Median annual wage,Median annual wage,
May 2008May 2008
Computer software engineers, applicationsComputer software engineers, applications 175175 $85,430$85,430
Network systems and data communicationsNetwork systems and data communications
analystsanalysts
156156 $71,100$71,100
Computer software engineers, systemsComputer software engineers, systems
administratorsadministrators
120120 $92,430$92,430
Computer systems analystsComputer systems analysts 108108 $75,500$75,500
Construction managersConstruction managers 9595 $79,860$79,860
Network and computer systemsNetwork and computer systems
administratorsadministrators
7979 $66,310$66,310
Civil engineersCivil engineers 6868 $74,600$74,600
Cost estimatorsCost estimators 5555 $56,510$56,510

18. High demandHigh demand
At the same time...At the same time...
TheThe demanddemand willwill
increaseincrease
TheThe supplysupply ofof
engineeringengineering
graduatesgraduates
is declining, andis declining, and
will continuewill continue
to declineto decline

19. High demandHigh demand
Most industries areMost industries are
less likely to lay off engineersless likely to lay off engineers
than other workers:than other workers:
They are harder to find.They are harder to find.
They are more costly to train.They are more costly to train.

20. Unemployment rate of scientists andUnemployment rate of scientists and
engineers in the U.S. by occupationengineers in the U.S. by occupation
Unemployment RateUnemployment Rate
Occupation 20032003 20062006
Computer/mathematical scientistComputer/mathematical scientist 3.83.8 2.52.5
Computer/information scientistComputer/information scientist 4.04.0 2.62.6
PsychologistPsychologist 1.11.1 1.11.1
Civil/architectural/sanitary engineerCivil/architectural/sanitary engineer 2.62.6 1.71.7
Electrical/computer hardware engineerElectrical/computer hardware engineer 5.55.5 3.33.3
Mechanical engineerMechanical engineer 4.04.0 2.32.3
Other engineerOther engineer 2.82.8 2.12.1
Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and
Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

21. Unemployment rate of U.S. scientists andUnemployment rate of U.S. scientists and
engineers drops to record low 2.5% in 2006engineers drops to record low 2.5% in 2006
All scientists &
engineers in
labor force
Bachelor’s Master’s Doctorate Professional
4.0
3.0
2.0
1.0
0.0
2003 2006
Unemployment rates of scientists and engineers by
highest degree attained: 2003 & 2006
Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and
Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

22. 2006 Unemployment rate of scientists and2006 Unemployment rate of scientists and
engineers in the U.S. by level of degreeengineers in the U.S. by level of degree
Level & Field of Highest Degree Unemployment rate (%)Unemployment rate (%)
Bachelor’sBachelor’s
Computer/math sciencesComputer/math sciences
EngineeringEngineering
3.93.9
2.32.3
Master’sMaster’s
Computer/math sciencesComputer/math sciences
EngineeringEngineering
3.53.5
2.52.5
DoctorateDoctorate
Computer/math sciencesComputer/math sciences
EngineeringEngineering
0.90.9
1.51.5
Source: National Science Foundation/Division of Science Resources Statistics, Science and
Engineers Statistical Data System (SESTAT): 2003, 2006.

23. Engineers are problem solvers...Engineers are problem solvers...
Applying the theories and principles ofApplying the theories and principles of
science and mathematics to the solutionscience and mathematics to the solution
of problems...of problems...
Designing everything from computersDesigning everything from computers
and industrial machinery to cars andand industrial machinery to cars and
security systems, in addition to bridges,security systems, in addition to bridges,
buildings and ships...buildings and ships...

24. Engineers are problem solvers...Engineers are problem solvers...
Often their work is the link between aOften their work is the link between a
scientific discovery and its application.scientific discovery and its application.
Engineers deliver the products andEngineers deliver the products and
services that consumers, business andservices that consumers, business and
government demand. They creategovernment demand. They create
wealth by designing, manufacturing,wealth by designing, manufacturing,
and building what you and I need andand building what you and I need and
want.want.

25. Engineering, science and dataEngineering, science and data
processingprocessing managersmanagers
Plan, coordinate and direct research,Plan, coordinate and direct research,
development, design, production anddevelopment, design, production and
computer-related activities.computer-related activities.
They may supervise engineers,They may supervise engineers,
scientists, technicians, computerscientists, technicians, computer
specialists, data processing workers,specialists, data processing workers,
along with support personnel.along with support personnel.

26. Engineering, science and dataEngineering, science and data
processing managersprocessing managers
Determine scientific and technical goalsDetermine scientific and technical goals
within broad outlines provided by topwithin broad outlines provided by top
management:management:
Redesign industrial machinesRedesign industrial machines
Improve manufacturing processesImprove manufacturing processes
Develop large computer programsDevelop large computer programs
Make advancements in basic scientificMake advancements in basic scientific
researchresearch

27. EngineeringEngineering managersmanagers
Start as engineersStart as engineers
Need a bachelor’s degree in engineeringNeed a bachelor’s degree in engineering
from an accredited engineering programfrom an accredited engineering program
as well as several years of experience.as well as several years of experience.
With the exodus of the baby boomersWith the exodus of the baby boomers
the rise into management will be rapid, ifthe rise into management will be rapid, if
not meteoric, for this generation ofnot meteoric, for this generation of
engineers.engineers.

28. Data processingData processing managersmanagers
Typically start theirTypically start their
careers with a degree incareers with a degree in
computer sciencescomputer sciences

29. SalariesSalaries
Experienced engineersExperienced engineers
have median salaries ofhave median salaries of
$94,000-$125,000.$94,000-$125,000.
Senior managers haveSenior managers have
salaries ranging fromsalaries ranging from
$130,000 to over $200,000.$130,000 to over $200,000.
It is difficult to match that typeIt is difficult to match that type
of salary with a bachelor’sof salary with a bachelor’s
degree in any other area.degree in any other area.

30. Starting salaries for engineersStarting salaries for engineers
with a bachelor’s degree:with a bachelor’s degree:
Significantly higher than most fields,Significantly higher than most fields,
between an average of $40,000 andbetween an average of $40,000 and
$61,121$61,121
(well above other majors)(well above other majors)

31. CECE
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CSCS
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ECS Salaries, Fall 2009ECS Salaries, Fall 2009
Bachelor’sBachelor’s
Master’sMaster’s
Source: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & EmployersSource: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & Employers
CECE
CpECpE
CSCS
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MEME
90%
Percentile
Average
Percentile
25%
Percentile
$62,000$62,000
60,00060,000
75,00075,000
80,00080,000
71,00071,000
71,00071,000
$52,287$52,287
51,45351,453
60,84460,844
61,46761,467
60,50960,509
59,22259,222
$47,000$47,000
48,00048,000
55,00055,000
52,50052,500
56,00056,000
55,00055,000
$63,000$63,000
**
90,00090,000
85,00085,000
86,00086,000
$56,311$56,311
72,77172,771
68,62768,627
70,92170,921
66,96166,961
$47,000$47,000
**
60,00060,000
62,00062,000
60,00060,000
* Data not
available

32. CECE
CMCM
CpECpE
CSCS
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MEME
ECS Salaries, Spring 2010ECS Salaries, Spring 2010
Bachelor’sBachelor’s
Master’sMaster’s
Source: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & EmployersSource: Nat’l Assn. of Colleges & Employers
CECE
CpECpE
CSCS
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MEME
90%
Percentile
Average
Percentile
25%
Percentile
* Data not
available
$69,000$69,000
60,00060,000
75,00075,000
80,00080,000
70,00070,000
69,00069,000
$52,443$52,443
50,78950,789
61,12161,121
60,42660,426
59,32959,329
58,88158,881
$46,000$46,000
43,68043,680
55,00055,000
51,50051,500
55,00055,000
54,00054,000
**
**
**
**
**
$49,500$49,500
83,90083,900
60,66760,667
67,89967,899
70,00070,000
**
**
**
**
**

33. Computer scientists andComputer scientists and
systems analystssystems analysts
Among the fastest growing occupationsAmong the fastest growing occupations
and will continue to be for someand will continue to be for some
time to come...time to come...

34. Computer scientistsComputer scientists
and engineersand engineers
With international and domestic competition,With international and domestic competition,
and the financial impact of the recessionand the financial impact of the recession
organizations are pressed to be more efficient,organizations are pressed to be more efficient,
effective, and secure- requiring innovations in:effective, and secure- requiring innovations in:
 office automationoffice automation
 telecommunications technologytelecommunications technology
 scientific researchscientific research
 computer and network securitycomputer and network security
 E-everythingE-everything
Engineers and Computer Scientists are neededEngineers and Computer Scientists are needed
to develop the new technology.to develop the new technology.

35. Systems analystsSystems analysts
Define business, scientific, or engineeringDefine business, scientific, or engineering
problems and design their solutions usingproblems and design their solutions using
computers.computers.
This may include planning and developingThis may include planning and developing
new computer systems, or devising ways tonew computer systems, or devising ways to
apply existing systems to operations stillapply existing systems to operations still
completed manually or by some lesscompleted manually or by some less
efficient methods.efficient methods.

36. SalariesSalaries
Graduates in computer science startGraduates in computer science start
with an average ofwith an average of $60,426$60,426..
Experienced computer professionalsExperienced computer professionals
command up to and beyondcommand up to and beyond
$125,000.$125,000.

37. WhyWhy the CSUSthe CSUS College ofCollege of
Engineering andEngineering and
Computer Science?Computer Science?

38. We care about...We care about...
The quality of your education.The quality of your education.
What happens to you afterWhat happens to you after
you graduate.you graduate.

39. We’re in Sacramento...We’re in Sacramento...
One of the fastest growingOne of the fastest growing
region in the state.region in the state.
The capitol ofThe capitol of
California with...California with...

40. We’re in Sacramento...We’re in Sacramento...
Headquarters or regionalHeadquarters or regional
offices of almost everyoffices of almost every
federal and state agencyfederal and state agency
Major installationsMajor installations
for large corporationsfor large corporations
A very high concentrationA very high concentration
of consulting engineering firmsof consulting engineering firms

41. In Sacramento...In Sacramento...
Students have an opportunity to workStudents have an opportunity to work
in every imaginable field while inin every imaginable field while in
school.school.
Computer hardware firms as a largeComputer hardware firms as a large
number of computer software andnumber of computer software and
computer consulting firms create a verycomputer consulting firms create a very
high demand for our graduates.high demand for our graduates.
(Hewlett Packard, CGI, AT & T,(Hewlett Packard, CGI, AT & T,
Accenture, Chevron IT, Intel)Accenture, Chevron IT, Intel)

42. Because CSUS students obtainBecause CSUS students obtain
experience while in school...experience while in school...
They obtain jobs very soonThey obtain jobs very soon
after graduation.after graduation.
Starting salaries for E&CS graduatesStarting salaries for E&CS graduates
with bachelor’s degrees from CSUS arewith bachelor’s degrees from CSUS are
very high, ranging from a low of aboutvery high, ranging from a low of about
$48,000 to a high of $80,000.$48,000 to a high of $80,000.

43. At Sac State . . .At Sac State . . .
Students do internships at government andStudents do internships at government and
federal agencies such as:federal agencies such as:
 Calif. Dept. of TransportationCalif. Dept. of Transportation
 Dept. of Water ResourcesDept. of Water Resources
 Air Resources BoardAir Resources Board
 Calif. Energy CommissionCalif. Energy Commission
 Cal ISOCal ISO
 Legislative Data CenterLegislative Data Center
 Lawrence Livermore National LabsLawrence Livermore National Labs
 US Bureau of ReclamationUS Bureau of Reclamation
 US Army Corps of EngineersUS Army Corps of Engineers

44. At Sac State . . .At Sac State . . .
Opportunities are also available forOpportunities are also available for
internships with these majorinternships with these major
companies:companies:
AerojetAerojet
AT & TAT & T
EDSEDS
Hewlett PackardHewlett Packard
IntelIntel
Kiewit PacificKiewit Pacific
KleinfelderKleinfelder
NECNEC
Pacific Gas & ElectricPacific Gas & Electric
URS CorporationURS Corporation

45. Because CSUS...Because CSUS...
...is one of the only schools in the...is one of the only schools in the
country where E&CS students can takecountry where E&CS students can take
courses in how to plan and managecourses in how to plan and manage
their technical careers.their technical careers. Take it early!Take it early!
……maintains a highly informativemaintains a highly informative
websitewebsite
www.ecs.csus.edu/careerwww.ecs.csus.edu/career

46. Because CSUS...Because CSUS...
...is one of the only universities with a...is one of the only universities with a
Career Services Office right in theCareer Services Office right in the
school of E&CS, working strictly with itsschool of E&CS, working strictly with its
students to obtain:students to obtain:
 work experiencework experience
 student employmentstudent employment
 ...from the minute...from the minute
they arrive.they arrive.

47. We maintain a state-of-the-artWe maintain a state-of-the-art
jobs data basejobs data base
It contains info on:It contains info on:
student and career jobs.student and career jobs.
job fairs andjob fairs and
career-related events.career-related events.
Students and alumni access job listingsStudents and alumni access job listings
any time – 24/7 - from their computersany time – 24/7 - from their computers
and mobile devices!and mobile devices!

48. Lawrence Livermore Nat’l Lab relations &Lawrence Livermore Nat’l Lab relations &
recruiting core universitiesrecruiting core universities
In State:In State:
 Sac StateSac State
 San Jose StateSan Jose State
 UC BerkeleyUC Berkeley
 UC DavisUC Davis
 UC IrvineUC Irvine
 UC San DiegoUC San Diego
 UOPUOP
 USCUSC
Out of StateOut of State
 Brigham YoungBrigham Young
 Carnegie MellonCarnegie Mellon
 Georgia Inst. Of TechGeorgia Inst. Of Tech
 MITMIT
 Northern ArizonaNorthern Arizona
 PurduePurdue
 Univ. of IllinoisUniv. of Illinois
 Univ. of MichiganUniv. of Michigan
 Univ. of WisconsinUniv. of Wisconsin

49. Why Choose EngineeringWhy Choose Engineering
or Computer Science at CSUS?or Computer Science at CSUS?
We have the best educational programs,We have the best educational programs,
the best location, and the best careerthe best location, and the best career
opportunities and industry connections.opportunities and industry connections.