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The Essence of Teachings:

Emptiness -Neither Existence Nor Voidness (6)
•	 The Explanations on the Extremes of “Existence” and “Voidness” by
the “Heart Sutra”
•	 The “Limitations of One’s Thoughts” is Equivalent to The “Limitations
of One’s Capabilities”
By Vajra Master Yeshe Thaye
Transcribed by To Sau-chu and Byron K.K. Yiu
(Lecture delivered : July 10, 2003)

The Explanations on the Extremes of
“Existence” and “Voidness” by the
“Heart Sutra”

spiritual attainment. Does this kind of spiritual experience
help one to become “liberated from the cycle of karmic
existence”? If one can truly realize such kind of spiritual
experience, then one can avoid a lot of bondages. If one
can then go further for one’s “Dharma practice”, one can
slowly enter into the genuine “view and knowledge” of
the Buddha, and eventually to be able to attain full and
perfect enlightenment (the “Attainment of Buddhahood”).

The “Heart Sutra” has mentioned: “Matter is no different
from Emptiness. Emptiness is no different from Matter.
Matter is the same as Emptiness. Emptiness is the
same as Matter.” This saying will not be able to be
comprehended by a lot of ordinary people, simply
because this saying seems not to be in congruence with
what we have ordinarily experienced in this world.

Both “Matter and Emptiness” seems to be two different
things to ordinary people, but then, in fact, these two
things have the same “intrinsic nature” according to the
“Heart Sutra”. Hence, the “Heart Sutra” asked people to
look at these two things as having no difference between
them so as to help us in breaking the “dualism” between
the two poles of “relative” and “absolute”, and thus letting
our own “minds” to return to the state of “non-attachment”
towards duality, and thus achieve the ultimate state
of “unity and perfection”. This, of course, needs one’s
true “realization” of the ultimate reality, and not just an
understanding at the “knowledge” level. In fact, what
we are talking about here is just to give you a better
understanding of what is meant by this phrase “Matter is
no different from Emptiness” at the “knowledge” level, so
as to realize the fact that “Matter and Emptiness” is really
one and the same thing.

However, in fact, from the viewpoint of “Dharma practice”,
this is the kind of spiritual realization that we will need
to actualize deep within us. It is only through this kind
of experiential spiritual experience that one can start to
realize the fact that “Matter and Emptiness” is really one
and the same thing, and there is no difference between
the two, whether one is using one’s own “consciousness,
unconscious, intuition, or any other angle” to see things.
Hence, if one is able to understand this kind of realized
experience, either through intuition, or the actual
realization of this, and not just by self-deception, or
through “intellectual” understanding, then one’s “Dharma
practice” can be considered to be at a higher level of
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During our “Dharma practices”, we have to engage
ourselves in various forms and rituals of the practices
(known as “sadhanas”). Regardless of whatever sects
do you belong to, or in whatever ways you try to practice
the Holy Dharma, if you do not break the “chains of your
thoughts” (i.e. the “limitations of your thoughts”) during
your “Dharma practices”, you will not be able to dissipate
the “limitations of your capabilities”. In other words, if one
wants to have achievements in one’s “Dharma practices”
in order to be either “liberated from the cycle of karmic
existence”, or to “attain Buddhahood”, the first step for
one to take is to break “one’s own limitations” in one’s
“thoughts”.

Another thing is that, we do not just expect you to
understand this message at the “knowledge” level, but we
do expect you to practice the Holy Dharma. In the future,
when we teach you how to do “Dharma practice”, we will
slowly teach you how to engage yourselves in various
forms and rituals of the practices (known as “sadhanas”),
as well as in the explanations and instructions of what
needs to be done. We will then explain why you have to
do certain things in certain ways, in order to fulfill certain
aims and objectives. In order for one to truly understand
what one is trying to accomplish, then the most basic
and fundamental understanding of all things at the
“knowledge” level is this idea of “Matter is no different
from Emptiness”.

In order to break the “limitations of one’s thoughts”,
one has to understand, and then later realize through
practice, what is meant by the important notion of
“Emptiness”? What is meant by “Neither Existence Nor
Voidness”? Once you start to understand this important
message, then you can slowly try to put it into practice,
and eventually you might be able to “realize” it. In which
case, you can then achieve the level where you will
be able to break the “chains of your thoughts” (i.e. the
“limitations of your thoughts”), and to transcend the
“limitations of your capabilities”.

Hence, if one cannot even understand this important
idea of “Matter is no different from Emptiness” at the
“knowledge” level, then one can hardly be able to know
the practice of it. When we are practicing the Holy
Dharma, we will have to use various skillful means
in order to realize the nature of this important idea of
“Emptiness”. Hence, it is only through the practices of
the Holy Dharma, can we then slowly integrate what we
have learnt through intellectual understanding to the
actual “Dharma practices”, and in such a way can we
slowly try to realize what is the true meaning behind all
these practices.

This is the reason why the Lord Buddha had tried to
teach us this very important notion of “Emptiness”, so
that we should diligently practice the Holy Dharma. In
getting rid of all our “greed, hatred and ignorance”, our
“minds” will then be able to expand and go beyond their
own “limitations” and “horizons”, in order that we can free
ourselves of our own limited “thinking patterns” and our
limited “capabilities”, so as to liberate ourselves from all
those bondages of the “cycle of karmic existence”.

The “Limitations of One’s Thoughts”
is Equivalent to The “Limitations of
One’s Capabilities”
Now, as far as the General Relativity Theory of Albert
Einstein is concerned, it basically talks about the same
thing when “Matter and Energy” are permeable and
interchangeable with each other. Since, our “thinking
pattern” in itself is composed of “energy”, so that if
there are limitations in our own “thinking patterns”
(“energy”), there will also be limitations in terms of
our own “capabilities” (“energy”) in terms of trying to
liberate ourselves from this “cycle of karmic existence”
(or “Samsara” in Sanskrit). Hence, the “limitation of our
own thoughts” is equivalent to the “limitations of our own
capabilities”.

This is the main reason why the Lord Buddha had taught
us this important concept of “Emptiness”. Hence, what
we are trying to talk about here is not about science
itself, but by using science as a footnote in helping us to
have a clearer and better understanding of what the Lord
Buddha had taught us at the “knowledge level”. This will
be very beneficial to us when we start doing our “Dharma
practices” later on.…. (To be Continued)

Why do we have to understand this important idea of
“Emptiness”? And why do we have to do “Dharma
practices”? All these do have their reasons. The Lord
Buddha had said that all of us sentient beings are, in fact,
having enormous power and capabilities, just like the
Buddha himself, since we all have the “Buddha Nature”.
However, due to the fact that we have been blocked by
numerous “greed, hatred and ignorance”, our “minds”
have all been blinded by using only very limited “thinking
patterns” in order to think and act. As a result, layers
upon layers of heavy bondages have thus been formed
in hindering us from developing our own potentials of
limitless “capabilities and wisdom” to the fullest extent.
That is the reason why we cannot liberate ourselves from
all those bondages in the “cycle of karmic existence” so
as to finally attain “full and perfect enlightenment” (or
“Buddhahood”).
Albert Einstein
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  • 2. During our “Dharma practices”, we have to engage ourselves in various forms and rituals of the practices (known as “sadhanas”). Regardless of whatever sects do you belong to, or in whatever ways you try to practice the Holy Dharma, if you do not break the “chains of your thoughts” (i.e. the “limitations of your thoughts”) during your “Dharma practices”, you will not be able to dissipate the “limitations of your capabilities”. In other words, if one wants to have achievements in one’s “Dharma practices” in order to be either “liberated from the cycle of karmic existence”, or to “attain Buddhahood”, the first step for one to take is to break “one’s own limitations” in one’s “thoughts”. Another thing is that, we do not just expect you to understand this message at the “knowledge” level, but we do expect you to practice the Holy Dharma. In the future, when we teach you how to do “Dharma practice”, we will slowly teach you how to engage yourselves in various forms and rituals of the practices (known as “sadhanas”), as well as in the explanations and instructions of what needs to be done. We will then explain why you have to do certain things in certain ways, in order to fulfill certain aims and objectives. In order for one to truly understand what one is trying to accomplish, then the most basic and fundamental understanding of all things at the “knowledge” level is this idea of “Matter is no different from Emptiness”. In order to break the “limitations of one’s thoughts”, one has to understand, and then later realize through practice, what is meant by the important notion of “Emptiness”? What is meant by “Neither Existence Nor Voidness”? Once you start to understand this important message, then you can slowly try to put it into practice, and eventually you might be able to “realize” it. In which case, you can then achieve the level where you will be able to break the “chains of your thoughts” (i.e. the “limitations of your thoughts”), and to transcend the “limitations of your capabilities”. Hence, if one cannot even understand this important idea of “Matter is no different from Emptiness” at the “knowledge” level, then one can hardly be able to know the practice of it. When we are practicing the Holy Dharma, we will have to use various skillful means in order to realize the nature of this important idea of “Emptiness”. Hence, it is only through the practices of the Holy Dharma, can we then slowly integrate what we have learnt through intellectual understanding to the actual “Dharma practices”, and in such a way can we slowly try to realize what is the true meaning behind all these practices. This is the reason why the Lord Buddha had tried to teach us this very important notion of “Emptiness”, so that we should diligently practice the Holy Dharma. In getting rid of all our “greed, hatred and ignorance”, our “minds” will then be able to expand and go beyond their own “limitations” and “horizons”, in order that we can free ourselves of our own limited “thinking patterns” and our limited “capabilities”, so as to liberate ourselves from all those bondages of the “cycle of karmic existence”. The “Limitations of One’s Thoughts” is Equivalent to The “Limitations of One’s Capabilities” Now, as far as the General Relativity Theory of Albert Einstein is concerned, it basically talks about the same thing when “Matter and Energy” are permeable and interchangeable with each other. Since, our “thinking pattern” in itself is composed of “energy”, so that if there are limitations in our own “thinking patterns” (“energy”), there will also be limitations in terms of our own “capabilities” (“energy”) in terms of trying to liberate ourselves from this “cycle of karmic existence” (or “Samsara” in Sanskrit). Hence, the “limitation of our own thoughts” is equivalent to the “limitations of our own capabilities”. This is the main reason why the Lord Buddha had taught us this important concept of “Emptiness”. Hence, what we are trying to talk about here is not about science itself, but by using science as a footnote in helping us to have a clearer and better understanding of what the Lord Buddha had taught us at the “knowledge level”. This will be very beneficial to us when we start doing our “Dharma practices” later on.…. (To be Continued) Why do we have to understand this important idea of “Emptiness”? And why do we have to do “Dharma practices”? All these do have their reasons. The Lord Buddha had said that all of us sentient beings are, in fact, having enormous power and capabilities, just like the Buddha himself, since we all have the “Buddha Nature”. However, due to the fact that we have been blocked by numerous “greed, hatred and ignorance”, our “minds” have all been blinded by using only very limited “thinking patterns” in order to think and act. As a result, layers upon layers of heavy bondages have thus been formed in hindering us from developing our own potentials of limitless “capabilities and wisdom” to the fullest extent. That is the reason why we cannot liberate ourselves from all those bondages in the “cycle of karmic existence” so as to finally attain “full and perfect enlightenment” (or “Buddhahood”). Albert Einstein 2 Issue no.11 Dudjom Buddhist Association (International) Tel (852) 2558 3680 Fax (852) 3157 1144 : : 4th Floor, Federal Centre, 77 Sheung On Street, Chaiwan, Hong Kong Youtube www.youtube.com/user/DudjomBuddhist Facebook Website:http://www.dudjomba.com www.facebook.com/DudjomBuddhist Email: info@dudjomba.org.hk 土豆 http://www.tudou.com/home/dudjom 优酷 http://i.youku.com/dudjom Copyright Owner: Dudjom Buddhist Association International Limited 56.com http://i.56.com/Dudjom