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From Law Undergraduate to Professional Practitioner Baroness Ruth Deech, Derek Wood QC, Dr John Carrier Dr Valerie Shrimplin 28 January 2011
Themes  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
The current situation  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Undergraduate Legal Education  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Legal degrees and pathways to Law? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Equality and Diversity issues ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Some facts and figures ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Number of Law graduates each year  First degree law (some numbers are rounded up/down by HESA Male  Female Total UK Law Graduates  (first degree) 2004-05  Not published separately on HESA website 13,735  2005-06  14,655  2006-07  15,625  2007-08  5,775 10,070 15,850 2008-09  5,900 9,565 15,465 2009-10  6,060 10,190 16,250  (HESA 2009/10   data made available  13 January 2011  )
CPE students FT  PT  Total                (FTE students)  2007/08  3433  1657  4261.5  2008/09  3897  1712  4753  2009/10  3985  1677  4823.5  2010/11  TBC TBC TBC
Numbers for Professional courses  (latest available figures – 2010)   validated places  applicants  enrolled  Professional stage (pupillage/training contract)  BPTC  2192 (FTE)  About 2,800 pa  1686 (2010-11) 1556 FTE Starters 478  LPC  14,482  TBC 9,337  5,809
BVC/BPTC applicants, places, passes   BVC/BPTC Year   03-04   04-05   05-06   06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11   Applicants   2570   2883   2917   2870   2864 2540 2657 2653   Enrolments (FT + PT head count not FTE)   1406   1665   1745   1932 1837 1749 1793 1682 (1555  FTE)   Successful (first go)   1251   1392   1480   1560 1720 1330 1432 TBC
BVC Student Statistics
BVC applications, enrolments and pass rates  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
BVC students/graduates as against Pupillages available ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Registered pupillages 1988-2010
Number of Pupillages 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 2009/10 Pupillages (1 st  six) 515 527 561 463 460 % increase/decrease -7.37% 2.33% 6.45% -17.47% -0.65% Difference (figure) -41 12 34 -98 -3             Pupillages (2 nd  six) 567 563 554 518 495 % increase/decrease -5.18% -0.71% -1.60% -6.50% -4.44% Difference (figure) -31 -4 -9 -36 -23
Pupils: QLD’s and conversion courses 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 Pupils with QLD’s 65% 58% 58% 59% 60% Pupils without QLD’s 35% 42% 42% 41% 40% Total 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
Success in obtaining pupillage: Degree results of pupils First degree 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 1 st 127 (21.4%) 108 (21.1%) 149 (29.6%) 147 (28.8%) 160 (32.7%) 2:1 310 (58.8%) 329 (64.3%) 296 (58.8%) 320 (62.7%) 264 (53.9%) 2:2 73 (13.9%) 68 (13.3%) 48 (9.5%) 29 (5.7%) 42 (8.6%) 3rd 6 (1.1%) 2 (0.4%) 1 (0.2%) 4 (0.8%) no valid data Other 8 (1.5%) 1 (0.2%) 2 (0.4%) 8 (1.6%) 4 (0.8%)
Other figures ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
The best way of managing all this? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Legal Services Act – likely impact on education ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Where does the LSB fit in to all this? ,[object Object],[object Object]
Education and training for the Bar  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
? ? BAR – OPOLY  GO    £20,000 Community Chest  (Inn scholarship) Chance  (get a pupillage?) Pay off loan Take A Levels Pass A Levels Seek career advice Study history Go to university Get loan Do Law Degree Work hard Do CPE BPTC graduate Join Inn Visit jail Get pupillage!! online Start BPTC Crime Call Go to Court Civil Law Advocacy Aptitude test Inns  QS’s No pupillage (try again) Final Exams Get tenancy! get practice certificate Work even harder QC! ©  Valerie Shrimplin

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From law undergraduate to professional practitioner

  • 1. From Law Undergraduate to Professional Practitioner Baroness Ruth Deech, Derek Wood QC, Dr John Carrier Dr Valerie Shrimplin 28 January 2011
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  • 8. Number of Law graduates each year First degree law (some numbers are rounded up/down by HESA Male Female Total UK Law Graduates (first degree) 2004-05 Not published separately on HESA website 13,735 2005-06 14,655 2006-07 15,625 2007-08 5,775 10,070 15,850 2008-09 5,900 9,565 15,465 2009-10 6,060 10,190 16,250 (HESA 2009/10 data made available 13 January 2011 )
  • 9. CPE students FT PT Total               (FTE students) 2007/08 3433 1657 4261.5 2008/09 3897 1712 4753 2009/10 3985 1677 4823.5 2010/11 TBC TBC TBC
  • 10. Numbers for Professional courses (latest available figures – 2010) validated places applicants enrolled Professional stage (pupillage/training contract) BPTC 2192 (FTE) About 2,800 pa 1686 (2010-11) 1556 FTE Starters 478 LPC 14,482 TBC 9,337 5,809
  • 11. BVC/BPTC applicants, places, passes   BVC/BPTC Year   03-04   04-05   05-06   06-07 07-08 08-09 09-10 10-11   Applicants   2570   2883   2917   2870   2864 2540 2657 2653   Enrolments (FT + PT head count not FTE)   1406   1665   1745   1932 1837 1749 1793 1682 (1555 FTE)   Successful (first go)   1251   1392   1480   1560 1720 1330 1432 TBC
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  • 16. Number of Pupillages 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 2009/10 Pupillages (1 st six) 515 527 561 463 460 % increase/decrease -7.37% 2.33% 6.45% -17.47% -0.65% Difference (figure) -41 12 34 -98 -3             Pupillages (2 nd six) 567 563 554 518 495 % increase/decrease -5.18% -0.71% -1.60% -6.50% -4.44% Difference (figure) -31 -4 -9 -36 -23
  • 17. Pupils: QLD’s and conversion courses 2004/05 2005/06 2006/07 2007/08 2008/09 Pupils with QLD’s 65% 58% 58% 59% 60% Pupils without QLD’s 35% 42% 42% 41% 40% Total 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
  • 18. Success in obtaining pupillage: Degree results of pupils First degree 2004-05 2005-06 2006-07 2007-08 2008-09 1 st 127 (21.4%) 108 (21.1%) 149 (29.6%) 147 (28.8%) 160 (32.7%) 2:1 310 (58.8%) 329 (64.3%) 296 (58.8%) 320 (62.7%) 264 (53.9%) 2:2 73 (13.9%) 68 (13.3%) 48 (9.5%) 29 (5.7%) 42 (8.6%) 3rd 6 (1.1%) 2 (0.4%) 1 (0.2%) 4 (0.8%) no valid data Other 8 (1.5%) 1 (0.2%) 2 (0.4%) 8 (1.6%) 4 (0.8%)
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