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THE APPLICATION OF THE EUROPEAN REGULATIONS FOR
SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEMS’ COORDINATION IN THE FIELD OF
         APPLICABLE LEGISLATION AND PENSIONS




                   Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP     1
The role of NHPP in the application of EU
        Regulations – COMPLEX




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   2
The role of the territorial houses of pensions in the application of EU
                              Regulations




                        Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                  3
Application Instructions - R. 1408 and R. 574




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   4
Application Instructions - R. 1408 and R. 574




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   5
Application Instructions R. 883 and R. 987




              Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   6
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
          APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (1)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   7
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (2)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   8
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (3)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   9
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (4)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   10
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (5)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   11
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (6)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   12
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (7)




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   13
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (8)
               statistical data - I




                 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   14
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
           APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (9)
                      statistical data - II
   The destination MS preferred by the Romanian workers and especially by
   the Romanian employers
                                                 GERMANY: 48279 E 101 and A1 issued – 50.28%



                                                 ITALY: 15803 E 101 and A1 issued – 16,46%



                                                 FRANCE: 11437 E 101 and A1 issued – 11,91%



                                                 BELGIUM: 4734 E 101 and A1 issued – 4,93%



                                                 NETHERLANDEN: 4068 E 101 and A1 issued – 4.24%



                                                 SPAIN: 2510 E 101 and A1 issued – 2,61%




                           Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                                       15
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION FOR DETERMINIG THE
          APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (10)
                              statistical data - III
             E 101 and A1 issued in the relation with Hungary
         1665 – 1,73% of the total number of certificates attesting the applicable legislation,
          Hungary holding the 7th position in the top of preferences of Romanian employers
          posting a number of their employees on the territory of other E.U. MS :
          2007: 136 E 101, most of all in industry
          2008: 245 E 101, most of all in industry
          2009: 563 E 101, in agriculture, industry,construction and even services provision
          01.01 – 30.04.2010: 122 E 101, most of all in industry
          01.05 – 31.12.2010: 449 A 1, în agriculture, industry and construction
          01.01 – 30.06.2011: 148 A 1, most of all in agriculture, industry and construction
         No major problems were faced in the relation with Hungary as regards the
          determination of applicable legislation




                                    Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                               16
NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE
          APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (11)
                          statistical data- IV
       Unattractive destinations for employers and self employed from Romania

          There were not issued E 101 forms, A1 portable documents for the
          following states:

  1.      Estonia
  2.      Malta
  3.      Liechtenstein
  4.      Ireland




                             Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                   17
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
             MIGRANT WORKERS (1)

In almost 5 years of application of the EU regulations, within the Romanian public
      pensions system, were gradually adopted, all the necessary measures for
      establishing and payment of pensions rights awarded to migrant workers:

1.        HR measures:
     1.     Department of international relations within NHPSI
     2.     International pensions compartment within all THPs
     3.     Organizing professional training seminars for the experts from THPs

2.        Issuing Instructions for the application of R. 1408/71 and 574/72, even since 2007,
          being periodically reviewed and updated and subsequently published in the O. J.

3.        A legal and procedural framework for the benefits' export abroad

4.        A program meant to integrate all European forms used within the Romanian public
          pensions system, and in the same time the calculation formula for the “European”
          pension awarded within the public system,
     1.     to create a database containing information of the processed pension files or in process
     2.     to assure a right and faster calculation of the pension rights established in the application of EU regulations



                                            Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                                                  18
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (2)




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   19
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (3)




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   20
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (4)
 In practice, some of these guiding principles may not still be fully complied with, in
         the absence of electronic data exchange.

 The county houses of pensions continue to face the same problems as before the 1 st
        of May 2010, with a view at:

       The non-transmission of documents certifying the contributory periods accomplished
        before the 1st of April 2001 (the information regarding the subsequent periods are
        collected in the database of NHPP)
       The transmission of insurance documents translated in a foreign language,
        incomplete, un-readable, non-approved by institution as regards the compliance with
        the original documents
       The non-transmission of documents attesting periods assimilated to insurance
        periods, e.g. periods of attending higher forms of education, periods of military active
        duty
       The non-filling, on the forms of application E 202, E 203, E 204, with some
        information necessary for setting and/or payment of pensions, as well as the death
        date, the marriage date, bank details



                                Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                                   21
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (5)
 In practice, some of these guiding principles may not still be fully complied with, in
         the absence of electronic data exchange.

 The county houses of pensions continue to face the same problems as before the 1 st
        of May 2010, with a view at:

       The request to transmit the E 210 form for notification of retirement decision,
        without the transmission of forms equivalent to retirement claims E 202, E 203,
        E 204
       The non-use of E 001 forms of notification or request of information
       The non-transmission of medical report form E 213 on the start date of
        procedure for setting disability pension benefits
       The transmission of E forms or of the documents requested by a competent
        Romanian institution to the liaison body or to another competent institution
       The non-communication of Romanian personal numeric code within the E
        forms




                              Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                            22
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (6)




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   23
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
            MIGRANT WORKERS (7)




               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   24
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT
                    WORKERS (8)
                  statistical data - I




                  Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   25
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT
                    WORKERS (9)
                  statistical data - II

  Most pension files in the application of E.U. Regulations are solved by the following county
         pension houses :

  1.      Timiş county pension house
  2.      Sibiu county pension house
  3.      Arad county pension house
  4.      Bucharest house of pension
  5.      Braşov county pension house
  6.      Mureş county pension house
  7.      Bihor county pension house
  8.      Cluj county pension house
  9.      Satu Mare county pension house
  10.     Harghita county pension house

  ⇒       Until the 30th of June 2011, 28 000 pensions were set




                                  Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                               26
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT
                    WORKERS (10)
                     statistics - II

  In the relation with Hungary, most pension files in the application of E.U.
        Regulations are solved by the following county pension houses:

  1.    Bihor county pension house
  2.    Cluj county pension house
  3.    Harghita county pension house
  4.    Covasna county pension house
  5.    Mureş county pension house




                            Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                    27
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT
                    WORKERS (11)
   THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - I




                   Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   28
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
              MIGRANT WORKERS (12)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - II




                  Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   29
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
             MIGRANT WORKERS (13)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS -
                             III




                Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   30
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
             MIGRANT WORKERS (14)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS -
                            IV




                Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   31
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
              MIGRANT WORKERS(15)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS -
                                            V
     The last bilateral meeting - Bucharest, on the 25th and 26th of October 2011, event
     honored by the participation of the managers of the two liaison bodies of both
     states - NHPP and ONYF.
       Legal and practical aspects related to the Romanian – Hungarian cooperation on
     pension matters, e.g.:

    Legal status of persons out of the scope of coordination Regulations
    Survivors benefits for claimants whose deceased spouse or parent has been
     awarded a Hungarian pension in application of the former social policy agreement
    Calculation of pensions by taking the study periods completed abroad into account
    Practical problems faced in implementing the legal instruments at bilateral level (as
     those already mentioned above)
    Proposals for accelerating pension award procedures




                               Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP                              32
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
             MIGRANT WORKERS(16)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS -
                            VI




                Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   33
SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO
              MIGRANT WORKERS(17)
THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS -
                            VII




                Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP   34

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2011 - The application of the European Regulations for social security systems' coördination in the field of applicable legislation and pensions

  • 1. THE APPLICATION OF THE EUROPEAN REGULATIONS FOR SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEMS’ COORDINATION IN THE FIELD OF APPLICABLE LEGISLATION AND PENSIONS Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 1
  • 2. The role of NHPP in the application of EU Regulations – COMPLEX Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 2
  • 3. The role of the territorial houses of pensions in the application of EU Regulations Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 3
  • 4. Application Instructions - R. 1408 and R. 574 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 4
  • 5. Application Instructions - R. 1408 and R. 574 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 5
  • 6. Application Instructions R. 883 and R. 987 Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 6
  • 7. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (1) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 7
  • 8. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (2) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 8
  • 9. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (3) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 9
  • 10. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (4) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 10
  • 11. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (5) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 11
  • 12. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (6) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 12
  • 13. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (7) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 13
  • 14. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (8) statistical data - I Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 14
  • 15. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (9) statistical data - II The destination MS preferred by the Romanian workers and especially by the Romanian employers GERMANY: 48279 E 101 and A1 issued – 50.28% ITALY: 15803 E 101 and A1 issued – 16,46% FRANCE: 11437 E 101 and A1 issued – 11,91% BELGIUM: 4734 E 101 and A1 issued – 4,93% NETHERLANDEN: 4068 E 101 and A1 issued – 4.24% SPAIN: 2510 E 101 and A1 issued – 2,61% Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 15
  • 16. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION FOR DETERMINIG THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (10) statistical data - III E 101 and A1 issued in the relation with Hungary  1665 – 1,73% of the total number of certificates attesting the applicable legislation, Hungary holding the 7th position in the top of preferences of Romanian employers posting a number of their employees on the territory of other E.U. MS :  2007: 136 E 101, most of all in industry  2008: 245 E 101, most of all in industry  2009: 563 E 101, in agriculture, industry,construction and even services provision  01.01 – 30.04.2010: 122 E 101, most of all in industry  01.05 – 31.12.2010: 449 A 1, în agriculture, industry and construction  01.01 – 30.06.2011: 148 A 1, most of all in agriculture, industry and construction  No major problems were faced in the relation with Hungary as regards the determination of applicable legislation Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 16
  • 17. NHPP – COMPETENT INSTITUTION IN ESTABLISHING THE APPLICABLE LEGISLATION (11) statistical data- IV Unattractive destinations for employers and self employed from Romania There were not issued E 101 forms, A1 portable documents for the following states: 1. Estonia 2. Malta 3. Liechtenstein 4. Ireland Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 17
  • 18. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (1) In almost 5 years of application of the EU regulations, within the Romanian public pensions system, were gradually adopted, all the necessary measures for establishing and payment of pensions rights awarded to migrant workers: 1. HR measures: 1. Department of international relations within NHPSI 2. International pensions compartment within all THPs 3. Organizing professional training seminars for the experts from THPs 2. Issuing Instructions for the application of R. 1408/71 and 574/72, even since 2007, being periodically reviewed and updated and subsequently published in the O. J. 3. A legal and procedural framework for the benefits' export abroad 4. A program meant to integrate all European forms used within the Romanian public pensions system, and in the same time the calculation formula for the “European” pension awarded within the public system, 1. to create a database containing information of the processed pension files or in process 2. to assure a right and faster calculation of the pension rights established in the application of EU regulations Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 18
  • 19. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (2) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 19
  • 20. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (3) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 20
  • 21. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (4) In practice, some of these guiding principles may not still be fully complied with, in the absence of electronic data exchange. The county houses of pensions continue to face the same problems as before the 1 st of May 2010, with a view at:  The non-transmission of documents certifying the contributory periods accomplished before the 1st of April 2001 (the information regarding the subsequent periods are collected in the database of NHPP)  The transmission of insurance documents translated in a foreign language, incomplete, un-readable, non-approved by institution as regards the compliance with the original documents  The non-transmission of documents attesting periods assimilated to insurance periods, e.g. periods of attending higher forms of education, periods of military active duty  The non-filling, on the forms of application E 202, E 203, E 204, with some information necessary for setting and/or payment of pensions, as well as the death date, the marriage date, bank details Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 21
  • 22. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (5) In practice, some of these guiding principles may not still be fully complied with, in the absence of electronic data exchange. The county houses of pensions continue to face the same problems as before the 1 st of May 2010, with a view at:  The request to transmit the E 210 form for notification of retirement decision, without the transmission of forms equivalent to retirement claims E 202, E 203, E 204  The non-use of E 001 forms of notification or request of information  The non-transmission of medical report form E 213 on the start date of procedure for setting disability pension benefits  The transmission of E forms or of the documents requested by a competent Romanian institution to the liaison body or to another competent institution  The non-communication of Romanian personal numeric code within the E forms Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 22
  • 23. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (6) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 23
  • 24. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (7) Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 24
  • 25. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (8) statistical data - I Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 25
  • 26. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (9) statistical data - II Most pension files in the application of E.U. Regulations are solved by the following county pension houses : 1. Timiş county pension house 2. Sibiu county pension house 3. Arad county pension house 4. Bucharest house of pension 5. Braşov county pension house 6. Mureş county pension house 7. Bihor county pension house 8. Cluj county pension house 9. Satu Mare county pension house 10. Harghita county pension house ⇒ Until the 30th of June 2011, 28 000 pensions were set Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 26
  • 27. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (10) statistics - II In the relation with Hungary, most pension files in the application of E.U. Regulations are solved by the following county pension houses: 1. Bihor county pension house 2. Cluj county pension house 3. Harghita county pension house 4. Covasna county pension house 5. Mureş county pension house Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 27
  • 28. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (11) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - I Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 28
  • 29. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (12) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - II Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 29
  • 30. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (13) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - III Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 30
  • 31. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS (14) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - IV Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 31
  • 32. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS(15) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - V The last bilateral meeting - Bucharest, on the 25th and 26th of October 2011, event honored by the participation of the managers of the two liaison bodies of both states - NHPP and ONYF. Legal and practical aspects related to the Romanian – Hungarian cooperation on pension matters, e.g.:  Legal status of persons out of the scope of coordination Regulations  Survivors benefits for claimants whose deceased spouse or parent has been awarded a Hungarian pension in application of the former social policy agreement  Calculation of pensions by taking the study periods completed abroad into account  Practical problems faced in implementing the legal instruments at bilateral level (as those already mentioned above)  Proposals for accelerating pension award procedures Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 32
  • 33. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS(16) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN - HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - VI Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 33
  • 34. SETTING AND PAYMENT OF PENSIONS AWARDED TO MIGRANT WORKERS(17) THE BILATERAL ROMANIAN – HUNGARIAN RELATIONS - VII Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP 34

Editor's Notes

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  4. Aici puteţi observa tendinţa de creştere a numărului de solicitări de emitere a certificatelor care atestă menţinerea la sistemul de securitate socială al României. Totalul formularelor E 101, respectiv documentelor portabile A1 emise în perioada 1 ianuarie 2007 – 30.06.2011 este de 96025 din care 57286, reprezentând aproape 60% în perioada 01.01.2007 – 30.04.2010, adică în 3 ani şi 4 luni, restul de 40% - adică 38739, fiind emise în perioada 01.05.2010 – 30.06.2011, pe parcursul a numai 1 an şi 2 luni. Şi ne aşteptăm ca această tendinţă de creştere a numărului de documentelor portabile A1 solicitate să crească şi în următorii 2 ani, în contextul menţinerii condiţiilor de criză economică şi financiară. Maria Luiza Socol Florescu, NHPP
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