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ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008
The Quest for Musical Genres:
Do the Experts and the Wisdom of Crowds
Agree?
Mohamed Sordo, Òscar Celma, Martin Blech, Enric Guaus
(Music Technology Group ~ UPF)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
motivation
taxonomy (controlled vocabulary)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
motivation
taxonomy (controlled vocabulary)
folksonomy (free text)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
motivation
taxonomy (controlled vocabulary)
VS.
folksonomy (free text)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
expert-based
• taxonomy
 Mp3.com
 2005
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
expert-based
• taxonomy
 13 seed genres (components)
 7 levels
 711 genres
Rock Hip-Hop
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
community-based
• folksonomy
 last.fm

ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
community-based
• folksonomy
 last.fm
 ~137K artists
 ~90K tags (after cleaning)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
outline
1) Mapping tags to genres
2) Computing similarity among genres
3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds
4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
outline
1) Mapping tags to genres
2) Computing similarity among genres
3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds
4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
• folksonomy ~ taxonomy
Jade (artist tags):
90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b,
urban, ...
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
• folksonomy ~ taxonomy
Jade (artist tags):
90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b,
urban, ...
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
• folksonomy ~ taxonomy
Jade (artist tags):
90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b,
urban, ...
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
• folksonomy ~ taxonomy
Jade (artist tags):
R&B, New-Jack-Swing, Urban
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
1) mapping tags to genres
• folksonomy ~ taxonomy
Jade (artist tags):
R&B, New-Jack-Swing, Urban
(39% tags matched
with MP3.com genres)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
outline
1) Mapping tags to genres
2) Computing similarity among genres
3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds
4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
2) computing similarity among genres
• Taxonomy
 distance(Doo-Woop, Urban) = 3
 Penalty when crossing components
 distance(Urban, Rock-Pop) = 7
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
2) computing similarity among genres
• Folksonomy
 LSA (SVD), 50 dim.
 Cosine similarity
 sim(Urban, Doo-Wop) = 0.868
 sim(Urban, Pop-Rock) = -0.145
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
outline
1) Mapping tags to genres
2) Computing similarity among genres
3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds
4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) Separate (taxonomy) genre components
using (folksonomy) genre sim.
 intra-component similarity
 inter-component similarity
• 2) Correlation between (taxonomy) genre
path distance and (folksonomy) genre sim.
 DistanceTAXONOMY(g1, g2) ~???~ SimFOLKSONOMY(g1, g2)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
Alternative-Rap
Dirty-Rap
West-Coast
Hip-hop
Bass-Music
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
Blues
Hip-hop
Rock/Pop
Electronic
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) inter-component similarity
 centroid for each component
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 1) inter-component similarity
 Clearly distinguishable from the rest
 Hip-hop, Blues, Jazz
 Relationships found
 Country ~ Bluegrass (~ Folk)
 R&B-Soul ~ Gospel/Spiritual
 Electronic/Dance ~ Vocal/Easy-Listening
 New-Age ~ World/Reggae (!)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy
genre sim.
West-Coast
Calypso
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy
genre sim.
 DistanceTAXONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 8
West-Coast
Calypso
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy
genre sim.
 DistanceTAXONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 7
 SimFOLKSONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 0.04
West-Coast
Calypso
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds
• 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy
genre sim.
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
outline
1) Mapping tags to genres
2) Computing similarity among genres
3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds
4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 Get genres at level n
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 For each genre at level n
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 Get all nodes at level n-1 (possible parents)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 Compute cosine LSA similarity
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 Assign closest parent
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.
 Compare with taxonomy parent
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Results
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Results
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy
• Results
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
...and also!
• MIREX 2007 results (Team: IMIRSEL-M2K SVM)
RAPHIPHOP 84.05%
BLUES 77.68%
EDANCE 77.68%
JAZZ 72.53%
COUNTRY 71.37%
ROCKROLL 69.53%
BAROQUE 65.81%
METAL 61.11%
ROMANTIC 52.79%
CLASSICAL 33.33%
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
conclusions
• Consensus in some genres
 expert, community, and audio
• Discovery in terms of taxonomy/folksonomy
 coarse / fine grained
 static / dynamic
• Taxonomy adapts according to the folksonomy
• Do we need experts?
• Are some (wisdom-of-crowds) shepherds more
experts than “THE” experts?
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF
future work
• Use more taxonomies and folksonomies
• Agreement measures
Uncovering affinity of artists to multiple genres from social behaviour data
(Claudio Baccigalupo, Justin Donaldson, Enric Plaza)
ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008
THANKS!!!
Mohamed Sordo, Òscar Celma, Martin Blech, Enric Guaus
(Music Technology Group ~ UPF)

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The Quest for Musical Genres: Do the Experts and the Wisdom of Crowds Agree?

  • 1. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 The Quest for Musical Genres: Do the Experts and the Wisdom of Crowds Agree? Mohamed Sordo, Òscar Celma, Martin Blech, Enric Guaus (Music Technology Group ~ UPF)
  • 2. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF motivation taxonomy (controlled vocabulary)
  • 3. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF motivation taxonomy (controlled vocabulary) folksonomy (free text)
  • 4. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF motivation taxonomy (controlled vocabulary) VS. folksonomy (free text)
  • 5. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF expert-based • taxonomy  Mp3.com  2005
  • 6. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF expert-based • taxonomy  13 seed genres (components)  7 levels  711 genres Rock Hip-Hop
  • 7. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF community-based • folksonomy  last.fm 
  • 8. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF community-based • folksonomy  last.fm  ~137K artists  ~90K tags (after cleaning)
  • 9. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF outline 1) Mapping tags to genres 2) Computing similarity among genres 3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds 4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
  • 10. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF outline 1) Mapping tags to genres 2) Computing similarity among genres 3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds 4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
  • 11. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres
  • 12. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres • folksonomy ~ taxonomy Jade (artist tags): 90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b, urban, ...
  • 13. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres • folksonomy ~ taxonomy Jade (artist tags): 90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b, urban, ...
  • 14. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres • folksonomy ~ taxonomy Jade (artist tags): 90s, illinois, new jack swing, rnb, r and b, urban, ...
  • 15. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres • folksonomy ~ taxonomy Jade (artist tags): R&B, New-Jack-Swing, Urban
  • 16. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 1) mapping tags to genres • folksonomy ~ taxonomy Jade (artist tags): R&B, New-Jack-Swing, Urban (39% tags matched with MP3.com genres)
  • 17. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF outline 1) Mapping tags to genres 2) Computing similarity among genres 3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds 4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
  • 18. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 2) computing similarity among genres • Taxonomy  distance(Doo-Woop, Urban) = 3  Penalty when crossing components  distance(Urban, Rock-Pop) = 7
  • 19. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF 2) computing similarity among genres • Folksonomy  LSA (SVD), 50 dim.  Cosine similarity  sim(Urban, Doo-Wop) = 0.868  sim(Urban, Pop-Rock) = -0.145
  • 20. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF outline 1) Mapping tags to genres 2) Computing similarity among genres 3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds 4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
  • 21. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) Separate (taxonomy) genre components using (folksonomy) genre sim.  intra-component similarity  inter-component similarity • 2) Correlation between (taxonomy) genre path distance and (folksonomy) genre sim.  DistanceTAXONOMY(g1, g2) ~???~ SimFOLKSONOMY(g1, g2)
  • 22. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
  • 23. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA
  • 24. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA Alternative-Rap Dirty-Rap West-Coast Hip-hop Bass-Music
  • 25. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) intra-component similarity, using LSA Blues Hip-hop Rock/Pop Electronic
  • 26. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) inter-component similarity  centroid for each component
  • 27. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 1) inter-component similarity  Clearly distinguishable from the rest  Hip-hop, Blues, Jazz  Relationships found  Country ~ Bluegrass (~ Folk)  R&B-Soul ~ Gospel/Spiritual  Electronic/Dance ~ Vocal/Easy-Listening  New-Age ~ World/Reggae (!)
  • 28. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy genre sim. West-Coast Calypso
  • 29. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy genre sim.  DistanceTAXONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 8 West-Coast Calypso
  • 30. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy genre sim.  DistanceTAXONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 7  SimFOLKSONOMY(West-Coast, Calypso) = 0.04 West-Coast Calypso
  • 31. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF agreement experts ~ wisdom of crowds • 2) taxonomy genre distance vs. folksonomy genre sim.
  • 32. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF outline 1) Mapping tags to genres 2) Computing similarity among genres 3) Agreement between experts and wisdom of crowds 4) Reconstructing the taxonomy from the folksonomy
  • 33. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  Get genres at level n
  • 34. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  For each genre at level n
  • 35. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  Get all nodes at level n-1 (possible parents)
  • 36. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  Compute cosine LSA similarity
  • 37. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  Assign closest parent
  • 38. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Select closest parent, using folk. genre sim.  Compare with taxonomy parent
  • 39. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Results
  • 40. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Results
  • 41. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF reconstruct taxonomy from folksonomy • Results
  • 42. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF ...and also! • MIREX 2007 results (Team: IMIRSEL-M2K SVM) RAPHIPHOP 84.05% BLUES 77.68% EDANCE 77.68% JAZZ 72.53% COUNTRY 71.37% ROCKROLL 69.53% BAROQUE 65.81% METAL 61.11% ROMANTIC 52.79% CLASSICAL 33.33%
  • 43. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF conclusions • Consensus in some genres  expert, community, and audio • Discovery in terms of taxonomy/folksonomy  coarse / fine grained  static / dynamic • Taxonomy adapts according to the folksonomy • Do we need experts? • Are some (wisdom-of-crowds) shepherds more experts than “THE” experts?
  • 44. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 // òscar celma // MTG / UPF future work • Use more taxonomies and folksonomies • Agreement measures Uncovering affinity of artists to multiple genres from social behaviour data (Claudio Baccigalupo, Justin Donaldson, Enric Plaza)
  • 45. ISMIR / Philadelphia, US // September, 18th 2008 THANKS!!! Mohamed Sordo, Òscar Celma, Martin Blech, Enric Guaus (Music Technology Group ~ UPF)