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Class 5: Telephone Interviews
Don Rabon
Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor
dwrabon@msn.com
Introduction
Don Rabon
Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative
director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in
interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure
analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and
Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is
retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina
Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director.
Joe Gerard
Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider
of web-based case management software for corporate investigations.
He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than
100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage
best practices and case management.
Telephone Interviews
Let’s start with some assessments:
Are your telephone interviewing responsibilities
primarily directed toward:
1. Gaining initial information?
2. Confirming information?
3. Identifying deception?
4. Gaining compliance?
Telephone Interviews
“I am new to the fraud field. (Your) presentation
was fun and enlightening. I learned so many
things that I can use in my current position. I
was even able to use some of the techniques on
a phone interview the day after the seminar.
Thanks Don.”
Telephone Interviews
Please note: This session is more hands on
during certain segments than any of our
previous four sessions. There will points
wherein you will be asked to complete a task.
Doing so will work to enhance that which you
obtain from the session.
How to conduct telephone interviews
How to conduct telephone interviews
First and most importantly:
Prepare for the interview ahead of time.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Preparation will be evident in the explicit and
implicit dynamics of the conduct of the
telephone interview.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Preparation will have a direct effect upon your
confidence and subsequently the interview
process.
How to conduct telephone interviews
In your preparation undertakings:
> Write a specifically worded sentence
identifying what you want to accomplish from the
interview.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Prepare a list of questions based upon your
specified outcome for the interview.
> Write two open questions that you would
utilize.
How to conduct telephone interviews
> Write two closed questions that you would
utilize.
How to conduct telephone interviews
> Write a standard tie-down question.
How to conduct telephone interviews
> Write an inverted tie-down question.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Second: Make arrangements to set aside time
for this interview. Take the necessary steps to
avoid interruptions until the interview is
completed.
An interruption at a critical point may result in
that “point” never being reached again.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Upon making contact:
Introductions
Checking on timing
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
Don’t fool yourself into thinking that you can
multitask – surf the web, return emails, etc.,
while you are conducting the interview.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
- Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Center on changes in their behavior.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Attending demonstrates respect, a willingness
to “know” and concern.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Silence is more than golden – it is power.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Reinforce with your own verbal and vocal
positive feedback:
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Reflective Probe
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Mirror questions to summarize, commit and
move forward.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Third: Give the interviewee your full and
undivided attention!
-Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the
interviewee;
- Validate: Make sure that the interviewee is
aware you understand their narrative.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Attitudes are:
"orientations of mind, internal states that exert
influence on overt behavior."
An attitude is a person's general evaluation of an:
object,
persons,
events,
products,
policies,
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Your attitude comes through loud and clear via
your voice tone and content.
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Suggestions:
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Suggestions:
Smile while you are talking to the interviewee – it
comes through;
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Suggestions:
Smile while you are talking to the interviewee – it
comes through;
Stand up while you are talking to strengthen how
you are coming across;
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fourth: Attitude
Suggestions:
Avoid: smoking, eating, drinking,
chewing
How to conduct telephone interviews
Fifth: Take notes. Identify the responses upon
which you wish to follow-up.
*Note: In your follow-ups, a good rule of thumb
is to go first with an open question and then
transition to other question type options if
necessary.
Item
Key differences between over-the-phone and in
person interviews
Item
Challenges
Item
Recording telephone interviews, disclosure
(different laws in different states)
Item
Detecting deception over the phone
Item
Deception Template
DECEPTION
• 01. Concealment
Probing Questions - - >
Road of Distortion
Elaborate
Minimize
Equivocate
02.
DECEPTION
• Concealment
Probing Questions - - >
Road of Distortion
Elaborate
Minimize
Equivocate
• Falsification
Two errors:
Deception clues
(symptoms)
Mistake
(reveals truth)
Salient linguistic Deception Clues
Individual is:
- Less Certain – use of modifiers;
- Fewer Factual Statements
- Mention their own experience less often passive
voice
- Use of the second person pronouns
Salient Deception Clues Cont..
- Refer to past events less often – Historical Present;
- Shorter Message Duration;
- Speech errors
- Response latency will increase
Response Latency
Question . . . . . Answer
Question . . . . . Answer
Question . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Answer
Silence
Vocal
Verbal
Mistake - reveals the truth
The Role of Anger in Detecting linguistic
indicators of deception
Anger is a loss of self-control
Listen carefully as to what the
individual is saying when he is
angry.
Anger is a loss of self-control
On what element does the
individual focus their anger?
Listen and Note:
Will “play” his strongest card
Repression
Temporal Lacuna
Indicates a blank space or missing element(s) with
the discourse.
When
Later on
After that
By and by
Denial or negation
Deception Template
Stalling mechanism
Let’s see
Okay now
Well
Oh well
Um, ah, uh
False Supportive
To tell you the truth
As a matter of fact
Non-confirming statement
Performative
Item
Exercises for developing and improving skills
Summary
Questions
If you have any questions, please submit them now.
Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar.
If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar,
please contact:
Joe Gerard
j.gerard@i-sight.com
Don Rabon
dwrabon@msn.com

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Class 5 - Telephone Interviews

  • 1. Class 5: Telephone Interviews Don Rabon Expert Investigator, Author, Instructor dwrabon@msn.com
  • 2. Introduction Don Rabon Don Rabon, CFE, author, speaker, instructor and former investigative director, has more than 34 years of experience conducting training in interviewing techniques, detecting deception and investigative disclosure analysis. Rabon is the author of many books, including Interviewing and Interrogation 2nd Edition and Fraud Related Interviewing. Rabon is retired from the North Carolina Justice Academy, North Carolina Department of Justice, where he served as Deputy Director. Joe Gerard Joe Gerard is the VP of Sales & Marketing at i-Sight, a leading provider of web-based case management software for corporate investigations. He’s worked with companies like Dell, Coke, Allstate, BP and more than 100 others to implement improved investigative processes that leverage best practices and case management.
  • 3. Telephone Interviews Let’s start with some assessments: Are your telephone interviewing responsibilities primarily directed toward:
  • 4. 1. Gaining initial information? 2. Confirming information? 3. Identifying deception? 4. Gaining compliance?
  • 5. Telephone Interviews “I am new to the fraud field. (Your) presentation was fun and enlightening. I learned so many things that I can use in my current position. I was even able to use some of the techniques on a phone interview the day after the seminar. Thanks Don.”
  • 6. Telephone Interviews Please note: This session is more hands on during certain segments than any of our previous four sessions. There will points wherein you will be asked to complete a task. Doing so will work to enhance that which you obtain from the session.
  • 7. How to conduct telephone interviews
  • 8. How to conduct telephone interviews First and most importantly: Prepare for the interview ahead of time.
  • 9. How to conduct telephone interviews Preparation will be evident in the explicit and implicit dynamics of the conduct of the telephone interview.
  • 10. How to conduct telephone interviews Preparation will have a direct effect upon your confidence and subsequently the interview process.
  • 11. How to conduct telephone interviews In your preparation undertakings: > Write a specifically worded sentence identifying what you want to accomplish from the interview.
  • 12. How to conduct telephone interviews Prepare a list of questions based upon your specified outcome for the interview. > Write two open questions that you would utilize.
  • 13. How to conduct telephone interviews > Write two closed questions that you would utilize.
  • 14. How to conduct telephone interviews > Write a standard tie-down question.
  • 15. How to conduct telephone interviews > Write an inverted tie-down question.
  • 16. How to conduct telephone interviews Second: Make arrangements to set aside time for this interview. Take the necessary steps to avoid interruptions until the interview is completed. An interruption at a critical point may result in that “point” never being reached again.
  • 17. How to conduct telephone interviews Upon making contact: Introductions Checking on timing
  • 18. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! Don’t fool yourself into thinking that you can multitask – surf the web, return emails, etc., while you are conducting the interview.
  • 19. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! - Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee;
  • 20. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Center on changes in their behavior.
  • 21. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Attending demonstrates respect, a willingness to “know” and concern.
  • 22. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Silence is more than golden – it is power.
  • 23. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Reinforce with your own verbal and vocal positive feedback:
  • 24. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Reflective Probe
  • 25. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Mirror questions to summarize, commit and move forward.
  • 26. How to conduct telephone interviews Third: Give the interviewee your full and undivided attention! -Attend to the verbal and vocal behaviors of the interviewee; - Validate: Make sure that the interviewee is aware you understand their narrative.
  • 27. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Attitudes are: "orientations of mind, internal states that exert influence on overt behavior."
  • 28. An attitude is a person's general evaluation of an: object, persons, events, products, policies,
  • 29. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Your attitude comes through loud and clear via your voice tone and content.
  • 30. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Suggestions:
  • 31. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Suggestions: Smile while you are talking to the interviewee – it comes through;
  • 32. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Suggestions: Smile while you are talking to the interviewee – it comes through; Stand up while you are talking to strengthen how you are coming across;
  • 33. How to conduct telephone interviews Fourth: Attitude Suggestions: Avoid: smoking, eating, drinking, chewing
  • 34. How to conduct telephone interviews Fifth: Take notes. Identify the responses upon which you wish to follow-up. *Note: In your follow-ups, a good rule of thumb is to go first with an open question and then transition to other question type options if necessary.
  • 35. Item Key differences between over-the-phone and in person interviews
  • 37. Item Recording telephone interviews, disclosure (different laws in different states)
  • 40. DECEPTION • 01. Concealment Probing Questions - - > Road of Distortion Elaborate Minimize Equivocate 02.
  • 41. DECEPTION • Concealment Probing Questions - - > Road of Distortion Elaborate Minimize Equivocate • Falsification Two errors: Deception clues (symptoms) Mistake (reveals truth)
  • 42. Salient linguistic Deception Clues Individual is: - Less Certain – use of modifiers; - Fewer Factual Statements - Mention their own experience less often passive voice - Use of the second person pronouns
  • 43. Salient Deception Clues Cont.. - Refer to past events less often – Historical Present; - Shorter Message Duration; - Speech errors - Response latency will increase
  • 44. Response Latency Question . . . . . Answer Question . . . . . Answer Question . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Answer Silence Vocal Verbal
  • 45. Mistake - reveals the truth
  • 46. The Role of Anger in Detecting linguistic indicators of deception
  • 47. Anger is a loss of self-control Listen carefully as to what the individual is saying when he is angry.
  • 48. Anger is a loss of self-control On what element does the individual focus their anger?
  • 49. Listen and Note: Will “play” his strongest card
  • 51. Temporal Lacuna Indicates a blank space or missing element(s) with the discourse. When Later on After that By and by
  • 53. Stalling mechanism Let’s see Okay now Well Oh well Um, ah, uh
  • 54. False Supportive To tell you the truth As a matter of fact
  • 57. Item Exercises for developing and improving skills
  • 59. Questions If you have any questions, please submit them now. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s webinar. If you have any questions about the information covered in the webinar, please contact: Joe Gerard j.gerard@i-sight.com Don Rabon dwrabon@msn.com