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    • 10th September, 2010
    • #sitbru #sitbra
    Dennis Howlett Certification 5 C5 SURVEY: EARLY RESULTS
    • Leo De Araujo - Canada
    • Martin Gillet - Belgium
    • Dennis Howlett - Spain
    • Michael Koch - UK
    • Jon Reed - US
    Certification 5 WHO ARE THE C5?
    • Promote improvements to SAP Certification
    • Provide input to SAP Certification
    • Raise awareness of potential value in SAP Certification
    Certification 5 C5 MISSION
    • Discussion paper developed (4,891 downloads)
    • Promoted at SAP board level
    • Input to Certification vision pending
    • Survey underway c. 400 responses to date
    Certification 5 PROGRESS TO DATE
    • No budget
    • Collective effort
    • Achieved using social and collaborative tools
    • Used Scrum style development process
    • Marketed guerilla style
    Certification 5 C5 DISCUSSION PAPER
    • Iterative process, not one thing
    • Insufficient empirical data to support discussion paper
    • Need for validation (or otherwise) around assumptions
    • Collect more qualitative data
    Certification 5 WHY A SURVEY?
    • Conducted Late August 2010 > ongoing
    • Views to date: 2165
    • Completed: 399
    • Qualitative responses: 124 (= 31% offering insights)
    • Uncompleted: 0
    Certification 5 SURVEY DATA
    • Theory that Certification can be meaningful in the market: SUPPORTED
    • Theory that Certification can be valuable in the market: SUPPORTED
    • Disconnect between value claimed and value delivered from current Certification: SUPPORTED
    • Need for improvement/change: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • Theory that Certification can be meaningful in the market: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • Theory that Certification can be valuable in the market: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • Disconnect between value expected and value delivered from current Certification: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • Need for improvement/change: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • Need for improvement/change: SUPPORTED
    Certification 5 KEY FINDINGS
    • SAP Certification via MCQ is an insult to the disclipine of Computer Science/Information Systems. None of my higher level CompSci classes were passed only by answering multiple choice questions. Higher level computer science classes(including systems analysis) require essay style questions to test knowledge in an objective fashion. The current MCQ certification exams only promotes rote memorization of feature lists and not whether you have the ability to solve a business problem via that solution.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
    • SAP Certification in my opinion is not going to work because there are several SAP consultants who don't have exposure to software development practices. I mean most of them started working in SAP after attending training programs 10+ years ago. For example, a good number of BW developers would know how to create DSOs/ODSs, Cubes, mapping, transfer rules, loading etc. Most of them probably attended training programs in BW and learnt just these tasks. So yes, they would do very well if you or certification exam asks questions on tcodes, how to create objects, transfer rules etc. They may not have other soft skills(such as analzying data) needed to be successful.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
    • Most of the people I know working in SAP security specialize, and the security certification requires taking over USD 5,000 in courses. That is a lot of money to spend for learning that is not all required for today's jobs in SAP security. My employer won't pay it, that's for sure.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
    • I am a strong opponent of these kinds of certificates. I see NO reason in making ANY kind of certificiation. 25 years of experience just speak for themself. Professional and Master seems to be as useless as all the other ones. I feel a notion of SAP tries to control and sense another money source in the freelancer market here. I will talk my clients into ignoring certificates as long as I could.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
    • Questions are asked very strange. Totally not in line with what's discussed in the training.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
    • The case study at SAP the week before the exam was the most useful aspect of the certification process (rather than the exam), as it involved completing practical project tasks that are typical of the work of a consultant. Certification seems to be considered as background knowledge when looking for a job - similar to having a degree. Experience is what actually counts when applying for jobs.
    Certification 5 QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT
  • Certification 5 YOU CAN DO IT TOO
    • Ignore everybody, do the needful
    • Use social tools: Twitter, SDN, Mentor webinars (even if not a Mentor)
    • Be relentless
    • Trust your team
  • Dennis Howlett Certification 5 Q&A