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In which the Eternal City
descends upon a New Earth
Throughout Revelation’s treatment of the Eternal
State, there exists a striking, even unexpected,
physicality to the depictions of Heaven’s
appearance.
Heaven fills with structures of measured
substance, possesses a geography and a political
system. What are we spiritually-minded souls to
make of this physicality in Heaven?
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PHYSICALITY VS.
SPIRITUALITY
The Bride, the wife of the Lamb, represents a
SPIRITUAL ENTITY in the Bible;
Yet, the New Jerusalem, also called “the Bride”,
seems to possess all the trappings of a PHYSICAL
ENTITY, a metropolis.
They exist as one and the same entity.
QUESTION: Why so much PHYSICALITY in the
Bible’s description of the purely SPIRITUAL?
WE START WITH AN AIRY
POETIC SIMILE
“And he carried me away
in the spirit to a great
and high mountain . . .
. . . and showed me the
Holy City, Jerusalem,
coming down out of the
Heaven of God, having
the glory of God . . .
. . . her brilliance was LIKE a very costly stone, as a stone of
crystal clear jasper.”
BUT AFTER THE AIRY
SIMILE,
PHYSICALITY
TAKES OVER!
THE PHYSICALITY:
DELIBERATE AND REPEATED

Many purely physical architectural references.
Depiction of great volume, physical bulk!
Elaborate materials’ list of physical gemstones.
Elaborate depictions of distance, movement in time and
space and compass directions.
Connection between angelic and earthly measuring systems
THE PHYSICALITY:
DELIBERATE

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Many purely physical architectural references
Depiction of great volume

Elaborate lists of physical gemstones

Elaborate depictions of distance, movement in time and
space and compass directions.

Connection between angelic and earthly measuring systems
A ‘REAL’ CITY . . . .
iliar ge
A fam

: a cu be
shape
ometric

k walls and
Thic
tion stones
12 founda
Materials: go
12 gates and
ld
and familiar
a street
gemstones
A CITY WITH
SPIRITUAL MEANING
sciples
= 12 Di
Stones
dation
2 Fou n
1
12 Gate
s = 12
Tribes
of Israe
l
The Bride Eternal consists of
BOTH Abraham’s offspring:
NT Saints of the Church and
OT Jewish Saints
YET PHYSICAL
MEASUREMENTS ABOUND
1500 miles to a side
Walls 72 yards thick
Angels measure stuff!
And angelic and human
measurements are the
same.
Compass directions
included
A CITY WITH
IMMENSE SIZE
God must mean the
immensity of the city to
accommodate lots of . . .
of . . . bodies? But we’re
spirits, aren’t we?
Yet the city hangs somehow
in close (?) relation to an
apparently physical New
Earth.
A CITY WITH CIVIC AND
POLITICAL FUNCTIONS
ernity:
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ght Pla
Li
amb,
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ines th
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The City Entertains Guests: The
kings of the earth bring
their honor into it.
A CITY WITH CIVIC AND
POLITICAL FUNCTIONS
The City
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Suburbs
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Holin
ters-ever.
en
We get much of our sense of what ‘spirit’ means
largely from Greek phrasings-but they’re pagans,
for crying out loud.
Our biblical texts here challenge those Greek
notions of a wispy formless spirit world with blunt,
repeated depictions of physicality.
Maybe we should accept the challenge?
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“And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards,
according to human measurements, which are
also angelic measurements.” Rev 21:17
parently
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“And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards,
according to human measurements, which are
also angelic measurements.” Rev 21:17
A PLACE TO START:
I CORINTHIANS 15: 35-48
But someone will say, “How are th
e dead
raised? And with what kind of bo
dy do they
come?” You fool! that which you
sow does not
come to life unless it dies; (I Cor 15:
35-36)

Physical death is a necessary transitional
portal between the physical life we know so
well and the spiritual existence to which God
graciously and gloriously destines us.
There exists no connection between the two
states. We know no developmental process
by which we move incrementally to attain the
spiritual realm without using death’s portal.
. . . that which you sow, you do no
t sow the
body which is to be, but a bare gr
ain, perhaps
of wheat or of something else. Bu
t God gives it
a body just as He wished, and to
each of the
seeds a body of its own.
(I Cor 15: 37-38)

We posses ‘bodies’ in both physical and
spiritual states. The physical body does not
make a very useful model for helping us
understand what our spiritual bodies will be like.
God forms our spiritual bodies’ configurations
after His own pleasure.
All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one
flesh of men and another flesh of beasts and
another flesh of birds and another of fish. There
are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but
the glory of the heavenly is one and the glory of
the earthly is another.
(I Cor 15: 39-40)
rsity of spiritual ‘flesh’ or
We may assume a dive
en; we may also expect to
form in Heav
een the ‘glory’ of the physical
distinguish betw
f our new spiritual bodies.
body and the glory o
peak in terms of ‘bodies”!
But notice: We still s
There is one glory of the sun and another glory of
the moon and another glory of the stars, for star
differs from star in glory.
(I Cor 15: 41)

In Heaven, the saints are not bland cookiecutter beings, one saint like the other in form
and prestige. Reflecting the quality of our
works, perhaps, or the level of spiritual maturity
and service we attained to on Earth, one saint
shall be distinguishable from another in graded
measures of glory.
SO ALSO IS THE RESURRECTION
OF THE DEAD . . .
Sown . . .

Raised . . .

Perishable body

Imperishable body

In dishonor

In glory

In weakness

In power

A natural body

A spiritual body
CONCLUSIONS
CONCLUSIONS
On death, believers do not dissolve into some cosmic
‘force’ or collective entity a la Bhuddism. Neither do
we reincarnate up or down the food chain.
Physical existence is at best an inexact model upon
which to understand details of our spiritual
existence in Eternity.
But-our present physical existence does, apparently,
provide some parallels to what we shall experience
in Heaven:
USEFUL PARALLELS
In Heaven, we retain our individuality, and Heaven
is a place of population diversity (Nations + Bride,
bodies of varied glory)
We retain an experience of ‘space-ness’ within
which separate and distinct spiritual forms and
structures of significant spiritual substance have
their existence. Concepts of ‘here’ and ‘there’
continue to have some meaning.
We navigate among familiar physical laws with new
spiritual powers.
As we work our way backwards in the book
of Revelation, we come to John’s presentation of the actual return of the Savior.
Chapters 19 and 20 continue to maintain the
end of the book’s story order presentation of
events.

XXV: The Return
of Jesus Christ
As we work our way backwards in the book
of Revelation, we come to John’s presentation of the actual return of the Savior.
Chapters 19 and 20 continue to maintain the
end of the book’s story order presentation of
events.
Search th
e
Table of C
ontents
for Other
Offerings
In
This Serie
s

XXV: The Return
of Jesus Christ

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XXII Physicality of Revelation 21

  • 1. XXIV: REVELATION CHAPTER 21 ion of t roduc G AP he skO op t sh Work hoy.com .lenny www In which the Eternal City descends upon a New Earth
  • 2. Throughout Revelation’s treatment of the Eternal State, there exists a striking, even unexpected, physicality to the depictions of Heaven’s appearance. Heaven fills with structures of measured substance, possesses a geography and a political system. What are we spiritually-minded souls to make of this physicality in Heaven?
  • 3. I’m just filler . . . you know, ‘No hyperlinks for you till Slide 4!” I’m a bit of a fashionista what with my 126 designer glasses. Got me this gig, though!
  • 4. Basic Information LICENSING: I grant a Creative Commons license made of the following elements: You may freely share and adapt this work provided you give me credit–(website info fine!), your efforts have no commercial application and you share extracted/ redacted work with others. God bless and have fun! VISIT: skOG Workshop Headquarters at www.lennyhoy.com for other items of interest. Slide Array Table of Contents TITLE PICTURE: http:// upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/ a/ab/La_nouvelle_Jérusalem.jpg IMAGES: By Subscription: http:// www.instonebrewer.com/bpg2009/ frames.htm?members/member_page.php SLIDE 4:http://upload.wikimedia.org/ wikipedia/commons/0/06/Universum.jpg SLIDE 11: http://commons.wikimedia.org/ wiki File:Blank_US_Map_with_borders.svg By Permission: Creative Commons Licensing as noted EMAIL: leonard.hoy@gmail.com
  • 5. PHYSICALITY VS. SPIRITUALITY The Bride, the wife of the Lamb, represents a SPIRITUAL ENTITY in the Bible; Yet, the New Jerusalem, also called “the Bride”, seems to possess all the trappings of a PHYSICAL ENTITY, a metropolis. They exist as one and the same entity. QUESTION: Why so much PHYSICALITY in the Bible’s description of the purely SPIRITUAL?
  • 6. WE START WITH AN AIRY POETIC SIMILE “And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain . . . . . . and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of the Heaven of God, having the glory of God . . . . . . her brilliance was LIKE a very costly stone, as a stone of crystal clear jasper.”
  • 7. BUT AFTER THE AIRY SIMILE, PHYSICALITY TAKES OVER!
  • 8. THE PHYSICALITY: DELIBERATE AND REPEATED Many purely physical architectural references. Depiction of great volume, physical bulk! Elaborate materials’ list of physical gemstones. Elaborate depictions of distance, movement in time and space and compass directions. Connection between angelic and earthly measuring systems
  • 9. THE PHYSICALITY: DELIBERATE ? Y H W Many purely physical architectural references Depiction of great volume Elaborate lists of physical gemstones Elaborate depictions of distance, movement in time and space and compass directions. Connection between angelic and earthly measuring systems
  • 10. A ‘REAL’ CITY . . . . iliar ge A fam : a cu be shape ometric k walls and Thic tion stones 12 founda Materials: go 12 gates and ld and familiar a street gemstones
  • 11. A CITY WITH SPIRITUAL MEANING sciples = 12 Di Stones dation 2 Fou n 1 12 Gate s = 12 Tribes of Israe l The Bride Eternal consists of BOTH Abraham’s offspring: NT Saints of the Church and OT Jewish Saints
  • 12. YET PHYSICAL MEASUREMENTS ABOUND 1500 miles to a side Walls 72 yards thick Angels measure stuff! And angelic and human measurements are the same. Compass directions included
  • 13. A CITY WITH IMMENSE SIZE God must mean the immensity of the city to accommodate lots of . . . of . . . bodies? But we’re spirits, aren’t we? Yet the city hangs somehow in close (?) relation to an apparently physical New Earth.
  • 14. A CITY WITH CIVIC AND POLITICAL FUNCTIONS ernity: le in Et ys a Ro ght Pla Li amb, d, the L y of Go he Glor T is city. ines th illum The City Entertains Guests: The kings of the earth bring their honor into it.
  • 15. A CITY WITH CIVIC AND POLITICAL FUNCTIONS The City S upports Suburbs earthly n where th ations w e alk by it s light. dards of ntains Stan e City Mai Th ing unclean e ss: Noth Holin ters-ever. en
  • 16. We get much of our sense of what ‘spirit’ means largely from Greek phrasings-but they’re pagans, for crying out loud. Our biblical texts here challenge those Greek notions of a wispy formless spirit world with blunt, repeated depictions of physicality. Maybe we should accept the challenge?
  • 17. o u g ht : For t h ariety y and v ecificit o the sp D hysical many p Bible’s of the e e d s of d the n es excee eferenc r imile? iritual s ing a sp form r of the numbe e sheer oe s t h D eed the ces exc referen hysical p iritual ing a sp develop e d s of ne nings? e’s mea at simil th
  • 18. our easy to retool invites us that God ounts to. I think reality am t spiritual se of wha se n “And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements.” Rev 21:17
  • 19. parently ngels ap estion: A u crements hallenge q ers with in C d use rul e walls an measur ev 21:17) stand. (R we under RE???? Y MEASU , DO THE XACTLY WHAT, E “And he measured its wall, seventy-two yards, according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements.” Rev 21:17
  • 20. A PLACE TO START: I CORINTHIANS 15: 35-48
  • 21. But someone will say, “How are th e dead raised? And with what kind of bo dy do they come?” You fool! that which you sow does not come to life unless it dies; (I Cor 15: 35-36) Physical death is a necessary transitional portal between the physical life we know so well and the spiritual existence to which God graciously and gloriously destines us. There exists no connection between the two states. We know no developmental process by which we move incrementally to attain the spiritual realm without using death’s portal.
  • 22. . . . that which you sow, you do no t sow the body which is to be, but a bare gr ain, perhaps of wheat or of something else. Bu t God gives it a body just as He wished, and to each of the seeds a body of its own. (I Cor 15: 37-38) We posses ‘bodies’ in both physical and spiritual states. The physical body does not make a very useful model for helping us understand what our spiritual bodies will be like. God forms our spiritual bodies’ configurations after His own pleasure.
  • 23. All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one flesh of men and another flesh of beasts and another flesh of birds and another of fish. There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is one and the glory of the earthly is another. (I Cor 15: 39-40) rsity of spiritual ‘flesh’ or We may assume a dive en; we may also expect to form in Heav een the ‘glory’ of the physical distinguish betw f our new spiritual bodies. body and the glory o peak in terms of ‘bodies”! But notice: We still s
  • 24. There is one glory of the sun and another glory of the moon and another glory of the stars, for star differs from star in glory. (I Cor 15: 41) In Heaven, the saints are not bland cookiecutter beings, one saint like the other in form and prestige. Reflecting the quality of our works, perhaps, or the level of spiritual maturity and service we attained to on Earth, one saint shall be distinguishable from another in graded measures of glory.
  • 25. SO ALSO IS THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD . . . Sown . . . Raised . . . Perishable body Imperishable body In dishonor In glory In weakness In power A natural body A spiritual body
  • 27. CONCLUSIONS On death, believers do not dissolve into some cosmic ‘force’ or collective entity a la Bhuddism. Neither do we reincarnate up or down the food chain. Physical existence is at best an inexact model upon which to understand details of our spiritual existence in Eternity. But-our present physical existence does, apparently, provide some parallels to what we shall experience in Heaven:
  • 28. USEFUL PARALLELS In Heaven, we retain our individuality, and Heaven is a place of population diversity (Nations + Bride, bodies of varied glory) We retain an experience of ‘space-ness’ within which separate and distinct spiritual forms and structures of significant spiritual substance have their existence. Concepts of ‘here’ and ‘there’ continue to have some meaning. We navigate among familiar physical laws with new spiritual powers.
  • 29. As we work our way backwards in the book of Revelation, we come to John’s presentation of the actual return of the Savior. Chapters 19 and 20 continue to maintain the end of the book’s story order presentation of events. XXV: The Return of Jesus Christ
  • 30. As we work our way backwards in the book of Revelation, we come to John’s presentation of the actual return of the Savior. Chapters 19 and 20 continue to maintain the end of the book’s story order presentation of events. Search th e Table of C ontents for Other Offerings In This Serie s XXV: The Return of Jesus Christ

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