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My Critique of Dave Bever
Dave Bever…https://www.facebook.com/DaveBever/videos/10209776254268322/
It’sSundaynightI’m watchingmylittle guyplaywhile myoldertwoare inyouthgroup withmany
others.
[hmm. Guess Sun. Night Church is a good place for kids but the adults have
outgrown it]
Senselessactof terrorismonce again/the hate once againstrikes.I’ve readandlistenedtosome really
ignorantchurch people,Pastorssaysome veryhatful andhorrible thingsthatare Biblicallyuntrue.
[ok good now he will use the Bible to correct false doctrine-? Don’t hold your breath
for it, the closest he comes is to tell you emphatically NOT to quote scripture]
I’mgoingto say somethingrightnowfromwhatI believe
[who cares what you believe, what does God say]
the church of JesusChristthe holyspiritof Godwouldsayto all Christiansandall of humanity.
[hmm all of humanity is the same as the “Christian” category?]
I’mgoingto say thisboldlyI’mnotinthisfor political sake….I’mtryingtospeaktruthsake…I believe in
beingBiblicallycorrect. Yes,we believe whatthe bible saysnowe don’tindorse sinful lifestylesbutI’m
goingto tell yourightnowwhat happenedinOrlandoFLwasan act of hate and terrorismandviolence.
Anddon’tyou dare,DON’TYOU DARE ever,everallow anyonetostate nor believe thatsomehow,some
sicktwistedwaythatGod had anythingtodo withthat.
That was notjudgmentforhomosexuality.Thatwasnot Godswrath, thatwas not Godscorrection. That
isthe worsttheologyI’ve everheard.If youare a preacheror a pastor or a Christian and you are going
around quoting scripture and tellingpeople thatisthe wrathof God, then shame on you. Andhonestly
the truth isnot inyou and youdo notknow the generous,compassionate,gracious,lovingGodthatI do.
Let me tell yourightnow, we are all sinnerssavedby grace.
[no we are not, I hope he is referring to “church people”, but I don’t even believe
most of them are saved]
For those whocall on the name Jesustheyare saved.
[nope, ask the woman at the well, she ask Jesus to give her eternal life and He
wouldn’t until He confronted the sin she was using to give her ‘control’- so she could
feel like God.
I can defiantly see he doesn’t spend much time the Bible, come on now how hard is
this vs to memorize:
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
He also doesn’t know the basic truth of salvation is not the call but the BELIEF you
must have the context of that verse, you can’t stop at verse 13 or you won’t
understand what “calling” is.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how
shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? Rom 10:17 Hearing the word of God and
how shall they hear without a preacher?]
Here is whatI’m saying,WhatI’m sayingaboutthe gay nightclubinOrlandoFL;I’mnot sayingthey
were childrenof God,I’mnot sayingtheyclaimedtobe.WhatI am sayingIS THAT WAS NOTTHE
WRATH OF GOD, not the judgmentof God,whatthat was,was an act of terrorism.
[If you would read the Bible you will see God is a terrorist: Gen 35:5; Lev 26:15-16;
Deut 4:34; Deut 32:25; Deut 34:12; Josh 2:9; Job 6:4; Job 18:11; Job 31:23; Job 33:7;
Ps 73:17-19; Ps 88:14-15; Ps 88:14-16; Ps 91:5-8; Isa 10:33; Jer 15:8; Jer 17:16-17;
Jer 32:21; Ezek 26:21; Ezek 27:36; Ezek 32:24; Ezek 32:26
Ezek 32:31-32; 2Cor 5:11; 1Pet 3:14
Anyone who is not saved can count on it; anything that goes wrong with them is the
wrath of God
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not
the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
2Cor 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are
made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. ]
Guesswhat those same radical IslamicTerrorist
[they are not radical, they are fundamental- they believe the book they claim is the
Authority for all matters of faith and practice].
Notall, not all of our Islamicbrothersare bad, I getthat
[first of all I don’t have any Islamic brothers, and Secondly they are bad Rom.10:3]
but that manwas an Islamicterroristandextremist. Guesswhatgiventhe opportunitythose radical
terroristwouldkill youandyourfamilyjustasquickas theykilledthe menandwomeninthatnightclub.
[ok so now we need to sort out the normal terrorist from the “radical” ones]
My heartbreaksforthe lossof life,fiftypluspeople murdered.Whetherwe agree withtheirlife style or
not that isnot the issue here.
[God doesn’t care what men we agree with; But we better agree with what he thinks
not any man. Gen 19:5; Lev 18:22; Lev 20:13; Deut 23:17; Judg 19:22-23; Judg 19:22
1Kgs 14:24; 1Kgs 15:12; 1Kgs 22:46; 2Kgs 23:7; Rom 1:21-32; 1Cor 6:9; 1Cor 6:9
1Tim 1:10; Matt 19:3-6 ]
The senselessactof violence hastakenthe livesof innocentpeople
[nope no one is innocent, God could take all of us out right now and have enough
evidence to stand up an any court of law Dan.5:23; 7:10]
… Let’s notbe suchinsensitive egotistical self-righteouspeople.
[ok now righteousness is a bad thing]
Can we justtake five minutesandsitbackand think
[Your thoughts mean nothing; better open the Bible and get God’s: Gen 6:5; Gen
8:21; Ps 10:4; Ps 94:11; Prov 16:3; Isa 55:8-9; Ezek 11:5; Amos 4:13; 2Cor 10:5
Heb 4:12 ]
some ones’sister, mother,father,brotherhaslosttheirlife today? Andwhatyouwantto do inthis
insensitivechurchworldiskickout scripture like youevenknow whatyou’re talkingabout.
[You better speak scripture or the Bible says you have no Light
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it
is because there is no light in them.
His wording here is interesting “kick out scripture” because that is exactly what he
will tell you to do twice before this is over]
Here is whatI can tell youthe heart of God is breakingforthose wholosttheirlives;the heartof Godis
brokenforthose whoare grievingtoday.The heartof God isbrokenfor the wearyand hate filled
humanitythatisour reality.
[He must have some special revelation on what God thinks because he still hasn’t
quoted or pointed us to anything God has to say]
AndI’m gunabe part of the change
[but Obama isn’t running, or is he?- lol]
I don’thave to endorse sinIdon’thave to embrace everyone’sbeliefsor lifestyle. ButI can tell youthisI
can tell youthisI can treat everyhumanbeingwithdignity,Iwill treateveryhumanbeingwithrespect
[no he didn’t respect the people with another viewpoint on this issue that’s why he
made this rant and rave video. God’s word says we should Reprove them
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather
reprove them. ]
Do not youever,anddo not youdare give Godcreditand call God accountable forthe trash that
happenedtoday.Godhadnothingto dowith that
[Rev 1:18 you can’t die unless Jesus unlocks the door for you Rev 9:6].
That was the pure workof evil there isnojustice,thatisnot wrath,that isnot judgment;thatishate
and that isterrorism,one hundredpercentanevil terrorismworktoday.
Let uslove like Christletushave longsuffering,mercy.Letusbe the church Let us know our Bible Letus
knowour God and letthe love andthe HolySpiritfill ourheartsthat we mightbe the church. You dig
that! … letsbe the change inthisworld.
[Ok so tell me how did Christ love?? Guess he doesn’t know so I’ll tell you what the
Bible says he did;
He Preached Repent, and Read the scriptures
Matt 4:17; Matt 11:20; Matt 11:24; Matt 21:16; Mark 2:25; Luke 10:26; Luke 13:1-5]
My heartbreaksforthose in the homosexual communitywhofeel like theyare hatedandtargeted.
Listensinseparatesusandall sin isequal inthe eyesof God, andchurch you bettergeta holdof that
reallyquick…
[All sin is not the same, the smallest sin carries a bigger penalty than anyone can
pay, but there are defiantly different degrees of sin Prov 6:16-19; Prov 24:12; Matt
23:14; Rev 20:11-15]
…Let us be betterchurch, letus not quote scripture like we thinkwe know whatwe are talkingabout,
getit together.Noteveryoneisatheologian,the truthisGodis a God of love andmercy,and the acts
that happenedinOrlandoFLtodaythose are acts of hate,and violence,andterrorismONLY.Let’sbe
betterpeople,let’sbe better.
Ok enough nonsense here is how God deals with his enemies:
Deut 28:58-63 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book,
that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD;
59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues,
and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall
cleave unto thee.
61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the
LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou
wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God.
63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you;
so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked
from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.
Prov 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Ezek 5:13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will
be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD have spoken it in my zeal, when I have
accomplished my fury in them.
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done,
saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Ps 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Ps 37:13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
Ps 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that
encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.
Ps 59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.
Prov 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul
an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall
prosper in his hand.
Rev 18:20-24 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath
avenged you on her.
21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with
violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.
22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in
thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a
millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of
the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by
thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Rev 19:1-3 1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia;
Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:
2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the
earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.
Ps 48:11 Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments.
Ps 58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood
of the wicked.
Prov 11:10 When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there
is shouting.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and
another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things
which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day
of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

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  • 1. My Critique of Dave Bever Dave Bever…https://www.facebook.com/DaveBever/videos/10209776254268322/ It’sSundaynightI’m watchingmylittle guyplaywhile myoldertwoare inyouthgroup withmany others. [hmm. Guess Sun. Night Church is a good place for kids but the adults have outgrown it] Senselessactof terrorismonce again/the hate once againstrikes.I’ve readandlistenedtosome really ignorantchurch people,Pastorssaysome veryhatful andhorrible thingsthatare Biblicallyuntrue. [ok good now he will use the Bible to correct false doctrine-? Don’t hold your breath for it, the closest he comes is to tell you emphatically NOT to quote scripture] I’mgoingto say somethingrightnowfromwhatI believe [who cares what you believe, what does God say] the church of JesusChristthe holyspiritof Godwouldsayto all Christiansandall of humanity. [hmm all of humanity is the same as the “Christian” category?] I’mgoingto say thisboldlyI’mnotinthisfor political sake….I’mtryingtospeaktruthsake…I believe in beingBiblicallycorrect. Yes,we believe whatthe bible saysnowe don’tindorse sinful lifestylesbutI’m goingto tell yourightnowwhat happenedinOrlandoFLwasan act of hate and terrorismandviolence. Anddon’tyou dare,DON’TYOU DARE ever,everallow anyonetostate nor believe thatsomehow,some sicktwistedwaythatGod had anythingtodo withthat. That was notjudgmentforhomosexuality.Thatwasnot Godswrath, thatwas not Godscorrection. That isthe worsttheologyI’ve everheard.If youare a preacheror a pastor or a Christian and you are going around quoting scripture and tellingpeople thatisthe wrathof God, then shame on you. Andhonestly the truth isnot inyou and youdo notknow the generous,compassionate,gracious,lovingGodthatI do. Let me tell yourightnow, we are all sinnerssavedby grace. [no we are not, I hope he is referring to “church people”, but I don’t even believe most of them are saved] For those whocall on the name Jesustheyare saved.
  • 2. [nope, ask the woman at the well, she ask Jesus to give her eternal life and He wouldn’t until He confronted the sin she was using to give her ‘control’- so she could feel like God. I can defiantly see he doesn’t spend much time the Bible, come on now how hard is this vs to memorize: Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. He also doesn’t know the basic truth of salvation is not the call but the BELIEF you must have the context of that verse, you can’t stop at verse 13 or you won’t understand what “calling” is. Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? Rom 10:17 Hearing the word of God and how shall they hear without a preacher?] Here is whatI’m saying,WhatI’m sayingaboutthe gay nightclubinOrlandoFL;I’mnot sayingthey were childrenof God,I’mnot sayingtheyclaimedtobe.WhatI am sayingIS THAT WAS NOTTHE WRATH OF GOD, not the judgmentof God,whatthat was,was an act of terrorism. [If you would read the Bible you will see God is a terrorist: Gen 35:5; Lev 26:15-16; Deut 4:34; Deut 32:25; Deut 34:12; Josh 2:9; Job 6:4; Job 18:11; Job 31:23; Job 33:7; Ps 73:17-19; Ps 88:14-15; Ps 88:14-16; Ps 91:5-8; Isa 10:33; Jer 15:8; Jer 17:16-17; Jer 32:21; Ezek 26:21; Ezek 27:36; Ezek 32:24; Ezek 32:26 Ezek 32:31-32; 2Cor 5:11; 1Pet 3:14 Anyone who is not saved can count on it; anything that goes wrong with them is the wrath of God John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. 2Cor 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. ] Guesswhat those same radical IslamicTerrorist [they are not radical, they are fundamental- they believe the book they claim is the Authority for all matters of faith and practice]. Notall, not all of our Islamicbrothersare bad, I getthat
  • 3. [first of all I don’t have any Islamic brothers, and Secondly they are bad Rom.10:3] but that manwas an Islamicterroristandextremist. Guesswhatgiventhe opportunitythose radical terroristwouldkill youandyourfamilyjustasquickas theykilledthe menandwomeninthatnightclub. [ok so now we need to sort out the normal terrorist from the “radical” ones] My heartbreaksforthe lossof life,fiftypluspeople murdered.Whetherwe agree withtheirlife style or not that isnot the issue here. [God doesn’t care what men we agree with; But we better agree with what he thinks not any man. Gen 19:5; Lev 18:22; Lev 20:13; Deut 23:17; Judg 19:22-23; Judg 19:22 1Kgs 14:24; 1Kgs 15:12; 1Kgs 22:46; 2Kgs 23:7; Rom 1:21-32; 1Cor 6:9; 1Cor 6:9 1Tim 1:10; Matt 19:3-6 ] The senselessactof violence hastakenthe livesof innocentpeople [nope no one is innocent, God could take all of us out right now and have enough evidence to stand up an any court of law Dan.5:23; 7:10] … Let’s notbe suchinsensitive egotistical self-righteouspeople. [ok now righteousness is a bad thing] Can we justtake five minutesandsitbackand think [Your thoughts mean nothing; better open the Bible and get God’s: Gen 6:5; Gen 8:21; Ps 10:4; Ps 94:11; Prov 16:3; Isa 55:8-9; Ezek 11:5; Amos 4:13; 2Cor 10:5 Heb 4:12 ] some ones’sister, mother,father,brotherhaslosttheirlife today? Andwhatyouwantto do inthis insensitivechurchworldiskickout scripture like youevenknow whatyou’re talkingabout. [You better speak scripture or the Bible says you have no Light Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. His wording here is interesting “kick out scripture” because that is exactly what he will tell you to do twice before this is over] Here is whatI can tell youthe heart of God is breakingforthose wholosttheirlives;the heartof Godis brokenforthose whoare grievingtoday.The heartof God isbrokenfor the wearyand hate filled humanitythatisour reality. [He must have some special revelation on what God thinks because he still hasn’t quoted or pointed us to anything God has to say] AndI’m gunabe part of the change
  • 4. [but Obama isn’t running, or is he?- lol] I don’thave to endorse sinIdon’thave to embrace everyone’sbeliefsor lifestyle. ButI can tell youthisI can tell youthisI can treat everyhumanbeingwithdignity,Iwill treateveryhumanbeingwithrespect [no he didn’t respect the people with another viewpoint on this issue that’s why he made this rant and rave video. God’s word says we should Reprove them Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. ] Do not youever,anddo not youdare give Godcreditand call God accountable forthe trash that happenedtoday.Godhadnothingto dowith that [Rev 1:18 you can’t die unless Jesus unlocks the door for you Rev 9:6]. That was the pure workof evil there isnojustice,thatisnot wrath,that isnot judgment;thatishate and that isterrorism,one hundredpercentanevil terrorismworktoday. Let uslove like Christletushave longsuffering,mercy.Letusbe the church Let us know our Bible Letus knowour God and letthe love andthe HolySpiritfill ourheartsthat we mightbe the church. You dig that! … letsbe the change inthisworld. [Ok so tell me how did Christ love?? Guess he doesn’t know so I’ll tell you what the Bible says he did; He Preached Repent, and Read the scriptures Matt 4:17; Matt 11:20; Matt 11:24; Matt 21:16; Mark 2:25; Luke 10:26; Luke 13:1-5] My heartbreaksforthose in the homosexual communitywhofeel like theyare hatedandtargeted. Listensinseparatesusandall sin isequal inthe eyesof God, andchurch you bettergeta holdof that reallyquick… [All sin is not the same, the smallest sin carries a bigger penalty than anyone can pay, but there are defiantly different degrees of sin Prov 6:16-19; Prov 24:12; Matt 23:14; Rev 20:11-15] …Let us be betterchurch, letus not quote scripture like we thinkwe know whatwe are talkingabout, getit together.Noteveryoneisatheologian,the truthisGodis a God of love andmercy,and the acts that happenedinOrlandoFLtodaythose are acts of hate,and violence,andterrorismONLY.Let’sbe betterpeople,let’sbe better. Ok enough nonsense here is how God deals with his enemies: Deut 28:58-63 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; 59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
  • 5. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. Prov 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; Ezek 5:13 Thus shall mine anger be accomplished, and I will cause my fury to rest upon them, and I will be comforted: and they shall know that I the LORD have spoken it in my zeal, when I have accomplished my fury in them. Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Ps 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Ps 37:13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming. Ps 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them. Ps 59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision. Prov 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. Rev 18:20-24 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. Rev 19:1-3 1 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. Ps 48:11 Let mount Zion rejoice, let the daughters of Judah be glad, because of thy judgments. Ps 58:10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked. Prov 11:10 When it goeth well with the righteous, the city rejoiceth: and when the wicked perish, there is shouting.
  • 6. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;