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Women in Physics – why so few? Petra Rudolf Rijksuniversiteit Groningen  The Netherlands
Women in Physics – why so few?
 
Marie Sklodowska-Curie Ir ė ne Joliot - Curie Maria G ö ppert - Mayer Dorothy  Crowfoot-Hodgekin Rosalyn Yalow Lise Meitner Chien-Shiung   Wu Rosalind Franklin Jocelyn Bell - Burnell Emmy Noether
Percentage of female science students in French speaking part of Belgium Data: CREF, December 2001
Girls don’t identify  with the “image”  of a scientist
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source: NATIONAL POLICIES ON WOMEN AND SCIENCE IN EUROPE, a report about  Women and Science in 30 countries, by Prof. Teresa Rees, School of Social Sciences, Cardiff University, U.K., March 2002, published by the European Commission. The number of female students is not the core problem: see % of women in academia in the Netherlands  (1999)  2008:8%
IUPAP study 2002  (see   http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/wmtrends.htm ) : 38% female physicists in developed countries marry during university studies; 30% marry after their final degree;  32% never marry !! 13% female physicists in developed countries had their first child during university studies; 34% after their final degree;  53% never had children !! Study of German physicists  (see  www.dpg-fachgremien.de/akc/start.html  ): 54,6% of the German female physicists are married to physicists  while among the male colleagues only 9% are in an equivalent situation Only one of the more than 3000 female physicists had a husband who was not professionally active  but took care of the home and the family while 25% of the male physicists are in an equivalent situation. Difficulties in combining family life and career
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• "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden.  Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see  http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf ) Early babies means that a woman or man has at least one child within the household prior to five years post-PhD.
"Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden.  Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 800 postdoctoral fellows at the University of California, Berkeley were surveyed (mostly biological and physical sciences), about 35% women; and of these, 32% already have at least one child. The majority of these postdocs, both men and women, are married.
"Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden.  Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see  http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf )
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“ Single women without children were also more likely than men to be considering a career direction away from academia. There was less of a predictable pattern here, but some of these women mentioned social isolation as a negative factor.” "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden.  Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see  http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf )
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Same test for all:  climb on that tree! Fair selection? Same test for all:  climb on that tree!
Your productivity might be judged differently when you are a woman… Nature 387, 341 (1997) Christine Wennerås & Agnes Wold, «  Nepotism and Sexism in Peer Review  » Impact point = one paper published in Journals impact factor 1 Competence score MRC: - scientific productivity - gender - affiliation to jury member
P. Goldberg, “Are Women Prejudiced Against Women?” Trans-Action 5 (1968), pp. 28-30. M. A. Paludi and W. D. Bauer, “Goldberg Revisited: What's in an Author's  Name”, Sex Roles: A Journal of Research, 9 (1983) pp. 387-390. Your productivity might be judged differently when you are a woman… 180 women &180 men asked to review math paper authored as below and rate 1=best, 5=worst mark author John T. McKay  Joan T. McKay  J. T. McKay  Men  1.9  3.0  2.7 Women  2.3  3.0  2.6
Do women scientists do science differently?  YES ! Do marriage and children really influence scientific productivity? NO – if you consider the integral over the whole career  (only those who stay in are counted…)  !!
JPS & JSAP Survey on the Status of Women Physicists,  2002  (see  http://www.aapps.org/archive/bulletin/vol13/13_3/13_3_p18p31.pdf ) Professional working hours per day Age 9.0 9.5 10.0 10.5 11.0 11.5 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0 Below 20 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50-54 55-59 Above 60 men women At office At home
JPS & JSAP Survey on the Status of Women Physicists,  2002  (see  http://www.aapps.org/archive/bulletin/vol13/13_3/13_3_p18p31.pdf ) Women above 35 publish less than men  but women over 50 more than men  – at the end of the career the integral is the same !
Report by Gerhard Sonnert and Gerald Holton   (American Scientist Jan/Feb 1996, p. 63) probed attitudes of more than 800 scientists: Women in general publish slightly less  - 2,3 papers per year  compared to 2,8 paper per year of their male colleagues. Citation rate is significantly higher : Women’s papers cited 24,4 times on average, compared with 14,4 times for men. Authors of report: higher citation rate = more noteworthy content “ Women scientists are inclined toward more comprehensive and synthetic work and more likely to find a scientific ‘niche’ rather than compete with colleagues in the same area of expertise ”. Your productivity might be different when you are a woman…
Sonnert and Holton’s   study also found that while 70% of the men considered their own scientific ability as being above average, only 50% of the women did. The way you see yourself might be different when you are a woman… ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
What is important for a good career? Good networking Good crisis management, resourcefulness, adaptability Right partner/husband Strong recommendations from highly regarded people What do you need to do to launch and advance your career ? Decide what you want to do : choose a physics/chemistry speciality and a career path; set near-term and long-range goals What defines success? Recognition : advancement, peer respect, publication citation, job offers, funding, number of students, invited talks Individual factors : fun, independence, life balance between effort and rewards Obtain a position : prepare for each interview, be confident Realise what is expected from you  in terms of achievement at each career step – and always prepare for the next step
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Avoid overcommittment  -  say no ! (I am not very good at this one myself…) Do women get the scientific mentoring they need? It seems that, unfortunately, they  don’t…. Important books to get advice: Peter Feibelman: A PhD is not enough Federico Rosei: Survival Skills for Scientists
Scientific Mentoring Asked to write publication Introduced to other scientists Invited to co-author a publication Asked to give a communication at a conference Men Women
Men Women What scientific scientific mentoring did you receive? None    1 cross  2 crosses  3 crosses  4 crosses
If you as supervisor think you do everything right but your young team member decides to quit physics although you think he/she got a very good talent for it , maybe you should read:
The future is bright for women  in physics! Never give up !

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Women in Science

  • 1. Women in Physics – why so few? Petra Rudolf Rijksuniversiteit Groningen The Netherlands
  • 2. Women in Physics – why so few?
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  • 4. Marie Sklodowska-Curie Ir ė ne Joliot - Curie Maria G ö ppert - Mayer Dorothy Crowfoot-Hodgekin Rosalyn Yalow Lise Meitner Chien-Shiung Wu Rosalind Franklin Jocelyn Bell - Burnell Emmy Noether
  • 5. Percentage of female science students in French speaking part of Belgium Data: CREF, December 2001
  • 6. Girls don’t identify with the “image” of a scientist
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  • 8. source: NATIONAL POLICIES ON WOMEN AND SCIENCE IN EUROPE, a report about Women and Science in 30 countries, by Prof. Teresa Rees, School of Social Sciences, Cardiff University, U.K., March 2002, published by the European Commission. The number of female students is not the core problem: see % of women in academia in the Netherlands (1999) 2008:8%
  • 9. IUPAP study 2002 (see   http://www.aip.org/statistics/trends/wmtrends.htm ) : 38% female physicists in developed countries marry during university studies; 30% marry after their final degree; 32% never marry !! 13% female physicists in developed countries had their first child during university studies; 34% after their final degree; 53% never had children !! Study of German physicists (see www.dpg-fachgremien.de/akc/start.html ): 54,6% of the German female physicists are married to physicists while among the male colleagues only 9% are in an equivalent situation Only one of the more than 3000 female physicists had a husband who was not professionally active but took care of the home and the family while 25% of the male physicists are in an equivalent situation. Difficulties in combining family life and career
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  • 11. • "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden. Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf ) Early babies means that a woman or man has at least one child within the household prior to five years post-PhD.
  • 12. "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden. Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 800 postdoctoral fellows at the University of California, Berkeley were surveyed (mostly biological and physical sciences), about 35% women; and of these, 32% already have at least one child. The majority of these postdocs, both men and women, are married.
  • 13. "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden. Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf )
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  • 15. “ Single women without children were also more likely than men to be considering a career direction away from academia. There was less of a predictable pattern here, but some of these women mentioned social isolation as a negative factor.” "Do Babies Matter?" by Mary Ann Mason (UC Berkeley) and Marc Goulden. Academe , Nov-Dec 2002 (see http://gradresearch.berkeley.edu/babiesmatter.pdf )
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  • 17. Same test for all: climb on that tree! Fair selection? Same test for all: climb on that tree!
  • 18. Your productivity might be judged differently when you are a woman… Nature 387, 341 (1997) Christine Wennerås & Agnes Wold, «  Nepotism and Sexism in Peer Review  » Impact point = one paper published in Journals impact factor 1 Competence score MRC: - scientific productivity - gender - affiliation to jury member
  • 19. P. Goldberg, “Are Women Prejudiced Against Women?” Trans-Action 5 (1968), pp. 28-30. M. A. Paludi and W. D. Bauer, “Goldberg Revisited: What's in an Author's Name”, Sex Roles: A Journal of Research, 9 (1983) pp. 387-390. Your productivity might be judged differently when you are a woman… 180 women &180 men asked to review math paper authored as below and rate 1=best, 5=worst mark author John T. McKay Joan T. McKay J. T. McKay Men 1.9 3.0 2.7 Women 2.3 3.0 2.6
  • 20. Do women scientists do science differently? YES ! Do marriage and children really influence scientific productivity? NO – if you consider the integral over the whole career (only those who stay in are counted…) !!
  • 21. JPS & JSAP Survey on the Status of Women Physicists, 2002 (see http://www.aapps.org/archive/bulletin/vol13/13_3/13_3_p18p31.pdf ) Professional working hours per day Age 9.0 9.5 10.0 10.5 11.0 11.5 0.0 0.5 1.0 1.5 2.0 Below 20 30-34 35-39 40-44 45-49 50-54 55-59 Above 60 men women At office At home
  • 22. JPS & JSAP Survey on the Status of Women Physicists, 2002 (see http://www.aapps.org/archive/bulletin/vol13/13_3/13_3_p18p31.pdf ) Women above 35 publish less than men but women over 50 more than men – at the end of the career the integral is the same !
  • 23. Report by Gerhard Sonnert and Gerald Holton (American Scientist Jan/Feb 1996, p. 63) probed attitudes of more than 800 scientists: Women in general publish slightly less - 2,3 papers per year compared to 2,8 paper per year of their male colleagues. Citation rate is significantly higher : Women’s papers cited 24,4 times on average, compared with 14,4 times for men. Authors of report: higher citation rate = more noteworthy content “ Women scientists are inclined toward more comprehensive and synthetic work and more likely to find a scientific ‘niche’ rather than compete with colleagues in the same area of expertise ”. Your productivity might be different when you are a woman…
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  • 25. What is important for a good career? Good networking Good crisis management, resourcefulness, adaptability Right partner/husband Strong recommendations from highly regarded people What do you need to do to launch and advance your career ? Decide what you want to do : choose a physics/chemistry speciality and a career path; set near-term and long-range goals What defines success? Recognition : advancement, peer respect, publication citation, job offers, funding, number of students, invited talks Individual factors : fun, independence, life balance between effort and rewards Obtain a position : prepare for each interview, be confident Realise what is expected from you in terms of achievement at each career step – and always prepare for the next step
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  • 27. Avoid overcommittment - say no ! (I am not very good at this one myself…) Do women get the scientific mentoring they need? It seems that, unfortunately, they don’t…. Important books to get advice: Peter Feibelman: A PhD is not enough Federico Rosei: Survival Skills for Scientists
  • 28. Scientific Mentoring Asked to write publication Introduced to other scientists Invited to co-author a publication Asked to give a communication at a conference Men Women
  • 29. Men Women What scientific scientific mentoring did you receive? None 1 cross 2 crosses 3 crosses 4 crosses
  • 30. If you as supervisor think you do everything right but your young team member decides to quit physics although you think he/she got a very good talent for it , maybe you should read:
  • 31. The future is bright for women in physics! Never give up !