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Speaking Bass
How to Communicate Effectively with your Double Bass Section
Bass is Different
• Different tuning

• Different posture

• Non-standardized
1. Why are...
my bassists so out of tune?
2. Why are...
their open strings so out of tune?
3. Why are...
their bows so crooked?
Hold the bow in the left hand
at the tip. The hair facing
out, as if sitting on a table
Gently bend the thumb.
Prepare to set bow on the
contact point of the thumb
This is where on the
thumb the bow lands Note the
direction of
the curve of
the thumb!
Note the gentle,
natural curve of
the fingers.
Set bow on contact point of the
thumb where the stick and the
frog meet. Contact point of the
thumb acts as the table.
The bow is still in the same
flat position!
Where the thumb
lands on bow!
Lay the pinky across the frog, often it
will cover the dot on the frog. Keep the
bow in the same flat position.
Slowly rotate
clockwise, from your
perspective, until the
thumb is pointing
straight down.
The index finger is
supporting the weight
of the bow at the first
knuckle.
Rotate back and forth slowly like a windshield wiper.
Transferring support between the index finger and pinky
Lay middle two fingers across bow in a relaxed fashion.
Voila! You have a bow hold!
Make sure your fingers are gently curved
as you hold the bow
Relax
your right
hand
down at
your side
Raise your
right arm
parallel with
the floor.
Leave your
wrist and hand
relaxed in the
“zombie” hand
position
Hold the bow in
your left hand and
put the bow in
your right hand
while keeping your
fingers relaxed
The picky is gently curved and the side
of the tip is in contact with the ferrule.
The thumb is on top of the
stick, generally in-line with it.
Index and middle fingers are
together and remain curved. The
index finger touches the side of
the stick and the middle finger is
on the frog.
The relaxed ring finger rests in the mouth of
the frog, but does not contact it.
4. Why are...
their left arms drooping?
5. Why are...
they dragging so much?
6. Why are...
their bow strokes not matching the group?
7. Why are...
they not cutting off with the group?
1. Have fresh rosin available
2. Get the basses as close as
possible
3. Get bass stools
4. Make sure endpins are
working
5. Give the bassists space to
bow
6. Have French and German
bows
7. Change your bass strings
8. Clear a path
9. Keep the basses humidified
10. Schedule regular luthier
appointments
Q&A
doublebassblog.org/midwest
Names of
Positions
Half Pos.
Open G
1st Pos.
G#/Ab
1st Pos.
A
2nd Pos.
A#/Bb
2nd and
a half Pos.
B
3rd Pos.
C
2nd Pos.
3rd and
a half Pos.
C#/Db
4th Pos.
D
3rd. Pos5th Pos.
D#/Eb
5th and
a half Pos.
E
6th Pos.
F
6th and
a half Pos.
F#/Gb
7th Pos.
G 8va
4th Pos.
"Thumb
Pos."
G#/Ab
A
A#/Bb
B
C
C#/Db
D
5th Pos.
D#/Eb
E
F
F#/Gb
G 16va
6th Pos.
G#/Ab
A
A#/Bb
B
C
C#/Db
D
Rabbath
(Vance/Green/Ellison/
Robinson/Proto)
Two Position Systems at a Glance
(G string pitches indicated)
Open G string
G harmonic (15ma)
D harmonic (8va
above fingered pitch)
G harmonic (8va
above open string)
D harmonic
G harmonic (8va
above open string)
D harmonic
B harmonic
Simandl
(Zimmermann/Drew
International ed.,
Applebaum, Essential
Elements, String
Explorer)
ⓒ Nicholas Walker 2008
Confusion w/ Names of Positions
Many string teachers are confused - even bassists!
Several Different Tuning Systems Exist:
3, 4, and 5 string setups
Tuned in 4ths (USA standard), 5ths, and 3rds
(Viennese Tuning)
Solo Tuning (instead orchestra tuning, G D A E - solo
tuning is A E B F#)
Many Fingering Systems Exist:
Simandl - 1 2 4 in lower positions
Billé - 1 2 3 4 in lower positions
Rabbath - the addition of crab & pivot systems, and
the use of drop-thumb in lower positions
A n d
M a n y
M o r e . . .
A l l t h e s e S y ste m s a r e
U s e f u l a n d Va li d .
The USA, NYSSMA, ASTA Standard
Tuning System:
4 string setup
Tuned in 4ths
Orchestra tuning, G D A E
Position Names:
Two different systems are accepted, and in use as
evinced in the representative repertoire in NYSSMA
handbook. Simandl & Rabbath.
I will clarify this in a moment.
Fingering System:
Simandl - 1 2 4 in lower positions as fundamental
technique.
Rabbath - crab, pivot, & the use of drop-thumb in
lower positions are considered advanced
techniques.
Dividing up the Fingerboard
The clearest way to
notate a position is
to simply indicate the
x & y axis.
Position Names
Play this note
with this finger.
or this finger.
This means NO
POSITION NAMES
On this string
Dividing up the Fingerboard
Position Names cont.
Franz
Simandl
François
Rabbath
UNDERSTANDING
&
O p e n G
Half Pos.
G # / A b
1st Pos.
A
2nd Pos.
A # / B b
2nd and
a half Pos.
B
3rd Pos.
C
3rd and
a half Pos.
C # / D b
4th Pos.
D
5th Pos.
D # / E b
5th and
a half Pos.
E
6th Pos.
F
6th and
a half Pos.
F # / G b
7th Pos.
G 8 v a
"Thumb Pos."
G # / A b
A
A # / B b
B
C
C # / D b
D
D # / E b
E
F
F # / G b
G 1 6 v a
G # / A b
A
A # / B b
B
C
C # / D b
Simandl
(Zimmermann/Drew
International ed.,
Applebaum, Essential
Elements, String
Explorer)
G
A
B
C
D
E
F
G
A
Simandl is a
Diatonic/
Chromatic
Based
Position
System
Open G
1st Pos.
G#/Ab
A
A#/Bb
B
C
2nd Pos.
C#/Db
D
3rd. Pos
D#/Eb
E
F
F#/Gb
G 8va
4th Pos.
G#/Ab
A
A#/Bb
B
C
C#/Db
D
5th Pos.
D#/Eb
E
F
F#/Gb
G 16va
6th Pos.
G#/Ab
A
A#/Bb
B
C
C#/Db
D
Also Normal Shifting
Rabbath
(Vance/Green/Ellison/
Robinson/Proto)
C
D
G
D
G
D
= harmonic
The
Rabbath
System is a
Harmonic
Based
Position
System
The Pivot System
Shifting without moving the thumb.
Shortnin’ Bread
Thumb Position
Making Connections
doublebassblog.org/midwest

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Speaking Bass

  • 1. Speaking Bass How to Communicate Effectively with your Double Bass Section
  • 2.
  • 3. Bass is Different • Different tuning • Different posture • Non-standardized
  • 4.
  • 5. 1. Why are... my bassists so out of tune?
  • 6.
  • 7.
  • 8.
  • 9.
  • 10. 2. Why are... their open strings so out of tune?
  • 11. 3. Why are... their bows so crooked?
  • 12.
  • 13.
  • 14.
  • 15.
  • 16.
  • 17.
  • 18.
  • 19.
  • 20.
  • 21.
  • 22. Hold the bow in the left hand at the tip. The hair facing out, as if sitting on a table
  • 23. Gently bend the thumb. Prepare to set bow on the contact point of the thumb This is where on the thumb the bow lands Note the direction of the curve of the thumb! Note the gentle, natural curve of the fingers.
  • 24. Set bow on contact point of the thumb where the stick and the frog meet. Contact point of the thumb acts as the table. The bow is still in the same flat position! Where the thumb lands on bow!
  • 25. Lay the pinky across the frog, often it will cover the dot on the frog. Keep the bow in the same flat position.
  • 26. Slowly rotate clockwise, from your perspective, until the thumb is pointing straight down. The index finger is supporting the weight of the bow at the first knuckle.
  • 27. Rotate back and forth slowly like a windshield wiper. Transferring support between the index finger and pinky
  • 28. Lay middle two fingers across bow in a relaxed fashion. Voila! You have a bow hold! Make sure your fingers are gently curved as you hold the bow
  • 29.
  • 31. Raise your right arm parallel with the floor. Leave your wrist and hand relaxed in the “zombie” hand position
  • 32. Hold the bow in your left hand and put the bow in your right hand while keeping your fingers relaxed
  • 33. The picky is gently curved and the side of the tip is in contact with the ferrule. The thumb is on top of the stick, generally in-line with it. Index and middle fingers are together and remain curved. The index finger touches the side of the stick and the middle finger is on the frog. The relaxed ring finger rests in the mouth of the frog, but does not contact it.
  • 34.
  • 35.
  • 36. 4. Why are... their left arms drooping?
  • 37.
  • 38.
  • 39. 5. Why are... they dragging so much?
  • 40. 6. Why are... their bow strokes not matching the group?
  • 41. 7. Why are... they not cutting off with the group?
  • 42.
  • 43. 1. Have fresh rosin available
  • 44. 2. Get the basses as close as possible
  • 45. 3. Get bass stools
  • 46. 4. Make sure endpins are working
  • 47. 5. Give the bassists space to bow
  • 48. 6. Have French and German bows
  • 49. 7. Change your bass strings
  • 50. 8. Clear a path
  • 51. 9. Keep the basses humidified
  • 52. 10. Schedule regular luthier appointments
  • 55. Half Pos. Open G 1st Pos. G#/Ab 1st Pos. A 2nd Pos. A#/Bb 2nd and a half Pos. B 3rd Pos. C 2nd Pos. 3rd and a half Pos. C#/Db 4th Pos. D 3rd. Pos5th Pos. D#/Eb 5th and a half Pos. E 6th Pos. F 6th and a half Pos. F#/Gb 7th Pos. G 8va 4th Pos. "Thumb Pos." G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C C#/Db D 5th Pos. D#/Eb E F F#/Gb G 16va 6th Pos. G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C C#/Db D Rabbath (Vance/Green/Ellison/ Robinson/Proto) Two Position Systems at a Glance (G string pitches indicated) Open G string G harmonic (15ma) D harmonic (8va above fingered pitch) G harmonic (8va above open string) D harmonic G harmonic (8va above open string) D harmonic B harmonic Simandl (Zimmermann/Drew International ed., Applebaum, Essential Elements, String Explorer) ⓒ Nicholas Walker 2008
  • 56. Confusion w/ Names of Positions Many string teachers are confused - even bassists! Several Different Tuning Systems Exist: 3, 4, and 5 string setups Tuned in 4ths (USA standard), 5ths, and 3rds (Viennese Tuning) Solo Tuning (instead orchestra tuning, G D A E - solo tuning is A E B F#) Many Fingering Systems Exist: Simandl - 1 2 4 in lower positions Billé - 1 2 3 4 in lower positions Rabbath - the addition of crab & pivot systems, and the use of drop-thumb in lower positions A n d M a n y M o r e . . . A l l t h e s e S y ste m s a r e U s e f u l a n d Va li d .
  • 57. The USA, NYSSMA, ASTA Standard Tuning System: 4 string setup Tuned in 4ths Orchestra tuning, G D A E Position Names: Two different systems are accepted, and in use as evinced in the representative repertoire in NYSSMA handbook. Simandl & Rabbath. I will clarify this in a moment. Fingering System: Simandl - 1 2 4 in lower positions as fundamental technique. Rabbath - crab, pivot, & the use of drop-thumb in lower positions are considered advanced techniques.
  • 58. Dividing up the Fingerboard The clearest way to notate a position is to simply indicate the x & y axis. Position Names Play this note with this finger. or this finger. This means NO POSITION NAMES On this string
  • 59. Dividing up the Fingerboard Position Names cont. Franz Simandl François Rabbath UNDERSTANDING &
  • 60. O p e n G Half Pos. G # / A b 1st Pos. A 2nd Pos. A # / B b 2nd and a half Pos. B 3rd Pos. C 3rd and a half Pos. C # / D b 4th Pos. D 5th Pos. D # / E b 5th and a half Pos. E 6th Pos. F 6th and a half Pos. F # / G b 7th Pos. G 8 v a "Thumb Pos." G # / A b A A # / B b B C C # / D b D D # / E b E F F # / G b G 1 6 v a G # / A b A A # / B b B C C # / D b Simandl (Zimmermann/Drew International ed., Applebaum, Essential Elements, String Explorer) G A B C D E F G A Simandl is a Diatonic/ Chromatic Based Position System
  • 61. Open G 1st Pos. G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C 2nd Pos. C#/Db D 3rd. Pos D#/Eb E F F#/Gb G 8va 4th Pos. G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C C#/Db D 5th Pos. D#/Eb E F F#/Gb G 16va 6th Pos. G#/Ab A A#/Bb B C C#/Db D Also Normal Shifting Rabbath (Vance/Green/Ellison/ Robinson/Proto) C D G D G D = harmonic The Rabbath System is a Harmonic Based Position System The Pivot System Shifting without moving the thumb.
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