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More than the Sound of
One Hand Clapping
Ross Wilson
Managing Director
Costing and Business Solutions Pty Ltd
ross.wilson@costproplus.com
www.costproplus.com
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
The Sound of One Hand Clapping
The Sound of One Hand Clapping is a 1997
novel by Australian author Richard Flanagan.
The title is adapted from the famous Zen kōan
of Hakuin Ekaku:
“You know the sound of two hands clapping;
tell me, what is the sound of one hand?”.
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The Sound of One Hand Clapping
There is no right answer to the koan,
But in extending this imagery to health we could say:
– Hands can represent the two sides of health – one being the
clinical and the other business/funding
– The two hands are part of one body that should function in
unison
– Health organisations need reporting / decision support that is
balanced in both clinical and business
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Background
Mainly discuss / cover two areas of costing use
– COAD
– Stroke pathway
In New Zealand
– 20 LHNs with CostPro in 9
– National Cost Data request now in 9th year
– Monthly costing with daily reporting
– Mental Health and Community big areas of focus
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
New Zealand Context
10 years ago Patient Costing:
– A compliance duty
– A slow turn around of results (often only annual)
– Complicated and not user friendly
– A black box
– No Costing or Counting Standards
– The beginning of national cost data collection
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
New Zealand Context
Today Patient Costing is about:
– Costing is updated monthly as the GL changes but
patient events are costed every day
– Near real time reporting
– National cost data available to all in Excel data
cubes
– Using patient cost data to identify clinical issues and
business issues
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
The panacea of decision support
The ultimate in decision support is:
– Active engagement with Clinicians / Managers
using both cost and qualitative measures
– Near real time reporting
– Exception reporting so that the recipient can focus
on the important things
– Reporting that creates a culture of continuous
improvement in clinical / management practice
and is not about blame
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
DRG E65B COAD
Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease
An example of using costing data
Engage Clinicians to:
– Improve health outcomes
– Standardise practice
– Reduce unnecessary testing
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
National Data Cube
Accessible through Internet with secure login
Users can link directly to the data cube via Excel
Updated after each annual cost data request
Mainly used for pricing, benchmarking and validation
of costs
A lot of demographic fields available which allows for
slicing /dicing
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
What does the National Data look Like?
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V
Avg Cost Per WIES 4171 4618 5041 5232 4453 5370 5288 4894 4067 5094 4353 5601 4677 6365 5856 4228 5104 5696 5189 3779 4176 7081
Avg WIES per event 0.83 0.84 0.84 0.83 0.77 0.73 0.80 0.83 0.70 0.76 0.81 0.78 0.79 0.85 0.85 0.83 0.84 0.85 0.76 0.81 0.68 0.79
0.50
0.55
0.60
0.65
0.70
0.75
0.80
0.85
0.90
$3,000
$3,500
$4,000
$4,500
$5,000
$5,500
$6,000
$6,500
$7,000
$7,500
WIES
$
Hospital
Average Cost Per WIES and WIES per Event by Hospital - DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
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-$100,000
$0
$100,000
$200,000
$300,000
$400,000
$500,000
$600,000
$700,000
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V
$
Hospital
Cost Overhead compared to Benchmark Hospital - DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
4
544
74
431
25
55
222
250
-31
-108
55
-8
140
27
117
14
73
183
18
-51
-74
128
-200
-100
0
100
200
300
400
500
600
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V
BedDaystoSave
Hospital
Bed Day Savings compared to Benchmark Hospital- DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Now to CostPro…
Reviewed the National Data cube – now to
CostPro
Patient Cost Profile report…
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
CostPro Patient Cost Profile
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Jump to the Doctor Summary Report
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Doctor Summary
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
MRI Utilisation
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Feedback from Clinicians
Amazing amount of data and detail
Using cost as a tool to identify anomalies is
different to other tools used
We see there is a lot of unnecessary testing
that we want to eliminate
We want to move to more standardised
practice and this will assist us
Monthly data is good because it is current
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Another example -
Stroke Clinical Protocol
An example of using qualitative data from the
costing system to identify differences in clinical
practice
We have identified 6 Flags that we can track in
the system that are important to stroke patients
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Stroke Flags
STK Code: The Referral Problem Code "STK"
must be attached to all stroke episodes.
OPRS: All stroke patients must have a stay in
the Older Persons Rehab Service (OPRS) ward
before being discharged.
28 Day: Any patients who are readmitted
within 28 days after discharge from a stroke
episode.
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Stroke Flags
Statin: All patients must be administered a
'Statin' medication within the first 2 days of
care.
Physio: All patients must be seen by a physio
within the first 2 days of care.
Imaging: All patients must have a CT or MRI
within the first 2 days of care during a stroke
episode.
CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips
Conclusion
Monthly costing with automated load processes is key
– Make the feedback loop more timely
– Automate data loading to reduce time spent on processing
your costing data
– Automate data loading to increase time spent on analysis
It’s a team effort – management and clinical
– Foster the culture
– You need a clinical advocate
– You need CEO, COO, CFO and at least one Senior Doc as
Champion
More than the Sound of
One Hand Clapping
Ross Wilson
Managing Director
Costing and Business Solutions Pty Ltd
ross.wilson@costproplus.com
www.costproplus.com

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Ross Wilson - Costing and Business Solutions

  • 1. More than the Sound of One Hand Clapping Ross Wilson Managing Director Costing and Business Solutions Pty Ltd ross.wilson@costproplus.com www.costproplus.com
  • 2. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips The Sound of One Hand Clapping The Sound of One Hand Clapping is a 1997 novel by Australian author Richard Flanagan. The title is adapted from the famous Zen kōan of Hakuin Ekaku: “You know the sound of two hands clapping; tell me, what is the sound of one hand?”.
  • 3. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips The Sound of One Hand Clapping There is no right answer to the koan, But in extending this imagery to health we could say: – Hands can represent the two sides of health – one being the clinical and the other business/funding – The two hands are part of one body that should function in unison – Health organisations need reporting / decision support that is balanced in both clinical and business
  • 4. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Background Mainly discuss / cover two areas of costing use – COAD – Stroke pathway In New Zealand – 20 LHNs with CostPro in 9 – National Cost Data request now in 9th year – Monthly costing with daily reporting – Mental Health and Community big areas of focus
  • 5. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips New Zealand Context 10 years ago Patient Costing: – A compliance duty – A slow turn around of results (often only annual) – Complicated and not user friendly – A black box – No Costing or Counting Standards – The beginning of national cost data collection
  • 6. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips New Zealand Context Today Patient Costing is about: – Costing is updated monthly as the GL changes but patient events are costed every day – Near real time reporting – National cost data available to all in Excel data cubes – Using patient cost data to identify clinical issues and business issues
  • 7. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips The panacea of decision support The ultimate in decision support is: – Active engagement with Clinicians / Managers using both cost and qualitative measures – Near real time reporting – Exception reporting so that the recipient can focus on the important things – Reporting that creates a culture of continuous improvement in clinical / management practice and is not about blame
  • 8. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips DRG E65B COAD Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease An example of using costing data Engage Clinicians to: – Improve health outcomes – Standardise practice – Reduce unnecessary testing
  • 9. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips National Data Cube Accessible through Internet with secure login Users can link directly to the data cube via Excel Updated after each annual cost data request Mainly used for pricing, benchmarking and validation of costs A lot of demographic fields available which allows for slicing /dicing
  • 10. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips What does the National Data look Like? A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V Avg Cost Per WIES 4171 4618 5041 5232 4453 5370 5288 4894 4067 5094 4353 5601 4677 6365 5856 4228 5104 5696 5189 3779 4176 7081 Avg WIES per event 0.83 0.84 0.84 0.83 0.77 0.73 0.80 0.83 0.70 0.76 0.81 0.78 0.79 0.85 0.85 0.83 0.84 0.85 0.76 0.81 0.68 0.79 0.50 0.55 0.60 0.65 0.70 0.75 0.80 0.85 0.90 $3,000 $3,500 $4,000 $4,500 $5,000 $5,500 $6,000 $6,500 $7,000 $7,500 WIES $ Hospital Average Cost Per WIES and WIES per Event by Hospital - DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
  • 11. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips -$100,000 $0 $100,000 $200,000 $300,000 $400,000 $500,000 $600,000 $700,000 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V $ Hospital Cost Overhead compared to Benchmark Hospital - DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
  • 12. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips 4 544 74 431 25 55 222 250 -31 -108 55 -8 140 27 117 14 73 183 18 -51 -74 128 -200 -100 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V BedDaystoSave Hospital Bed Day Savings compared to Benchmark Hospital- DRG E65B COAD W/O CC
  • 13. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Now to CostPro… Reviewed the National Data cube – now to CostPro Patient Cost Profile report…
  • 14. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips CostPro Patient Cost Profile
  • 15. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Jump to the Doctor Summary Report
  • 16. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Doctor Summary
  • 17. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips MRI Utilisation
  • 18. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Feedback from Clinicians Amazing amount of data and detail Using cost as a tool to identify anomalies is different to other tools used We see there is a lot of unnecessary testing that we want to eliminate We want to move to more standardised practice and this will assist us Monthly data is good because it is current
  • 19. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Another example - Stroke Clinical Protocol An example of using qualitative data from the costing system to identify differences in clinical practice We have identified 6 Flags that we can track in the system that are important to stroke patients
  • 20. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Stroke Flags STK Code: The Referral Problem Code "STK" must be attached to all stroke episodes. OPRS: All stroke patients must have a stay in the Older Persons Rehab Service (OPRS) ward before being discharged. 28 Day: Any patients who are readmitted within 28 days after discharge from a stroke episode.
  • 21. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Stroke Flags Statin: All patients must be administered a 'Statin' medication within the first 2 days of care. Physio: All patients must be seen by a physio within the first 2 days of care. Imaging: All patients must have a CT or MRI within the first 2 days of care during a stroke episode.
  • 22. CostPro Plus - the most accurate real time information at your fingertips Conclusion Monthly costing with automated load processes is key – Make the feedback loop more timely – Automate data loading to reduce time spent on processing your costing data – Automate data loading to increase time spent on analysis It’s a team effort – management and clinical – Foster the culture – You need a clinical advocate – You need CEO, COO, CFO and at least one Senior Doc as Champion
  • 23. More than the Sound of One Hand Clapping Ross Wilson Managing Director Costing and Business Solutions Pty Ltd ross.wilson@costproplus.com www.costproplus.com