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Andrew Bartlett
Agricultural Policy Adviser, NUDP
Questioning Policy
A simple idea
We can improve the policy making
process by asking more
questions
Structure of this presentation
 Background about NUDP
 A breakthough in thinking
 Does policy matter?
 How is policy made?
 Questions we are afraid to ask
 Barriers to critical thinking
 How can we do a better job?
Background
 The Northern Upland Development Programme is now
operational, supported by 4 donor agencies
 NUDP has a component called ‘Strengthening
Government Agency Policy Making and Capitalization
Capacity’
 The Agricultural Policy Adviser started work in October
this year
 The framework proposed by the Adviser is based on the
‘4 breakthroughs’ announced at the 9th Party Congress
A breakthrough in policy making
A breakthrough in
management of
policy making
A breakthrough in human
resources for policy making
A breakthrough in prioritizing
poverty in policy making
A breakthrough in
thinking about
policy
The biggest challenge is…
… a breakthrough in thinking
 Asking questions is the key to achieving this
breakthrough
 Questioning has been used to improve thinking
throughout human history …
… from the Socratic Method and the Kalama Sutta
to Empirical Science and Marxist Dialectic
 This process is known as ‘critical thinking’
Critical thinking
 The word ‘critical’ has more than one meaning in the
English language…
 expressing disapproval
 Involving an objective analysis
 It is the second meaning that we are talking about
Does policy matter?
 It can be argued that government policy is no longer a
‘driver of change’
 Public research and extension has less influence on
agric development than regional economic integration,
labour migration, and new channels of communication
 The markets for maize,
sugar, cassava and
other commodities
depend on decisions
taken in Washington,
Brussels and Beijing
Does policy matter?
 Nevertheless, the Government of Laos continues to play
a role in regulating change
 Policy allows some things to happen…
… and blocks other things
 But is policy research focusing on the right things?
 Macro-level policies have the biggest impact on change
processes
 Yet a lot of policy research focuses on the micro-level
Levels of policy
 Visionary level
 Eradicating poverty
 Achieving 8% growth
 Increasing forest cover
 Modernizing production
 The key question at this level is
‘What are the goals we want to achieve?’
Levels of policy
 Strategic level
 Granting land concessions
 Eradicating shifting cultivation
 Resettlement of villages
 Controlling market structures
 The key question at this level is
‘How are we going to achieve our goals?’
Levels of policy
 Technical level level
 Promoting specific crops or technologies
 Re-organising government structures
 Establishing khumban technical service centres
 Setting up production and marketing groups
 The key question at this level is
‘Who cares?
 Most of these issues are inward looking
 They are about the functioning of MAF and development
projects, but have little or no impact on the lives of the
majority of farmers
Are we stuck in the middle?
 We spend a lot of time
studying technical issues
that interest ourselves
 Are we doing enough to
help policy makers at the
strategic level?
 Are we doing enough to
provide farmers with
practical options?
 Perhaps we could do a better job if we understood the
policy-making process
 It’s a mystery to most foreigners
How is policy made?
 But here are two hypotheses:
 Firstly, a lot of de facto policy is
made at the Provincial level
 Here, visionary policy is not
simply implemented, it is
interpreted and adapted
 Consequently, policy at the strategic level is a contest
between national goals and local interests
 Secondly, there is a lot of reactive (rather than proactive)
policy making
 Leaders encounter a problem, or see something they
like, and make a decision
 Eg. promoting TSCs or adopting SRI
 Basing policy decisions on real-world problems and
models is a good idea…
… providing these decisions are not impulsive
or autocratic
 Ideally, these reactions should be treated as proposals,
as suggestions, as opinions
How is policy made?
 Policy proposals need to be studied, tested, evaluated
 The costs and benefits need to be calculated, and
comparisons made with alternatives
 In other words, proposals need to be the subject of
critical thinking
 But too often we find officials who are trying to
implement something without knowing if it is possible or
useful
 Sometimes they don’t even understand what their boss
wants, but they still try to do something
 This is why we need a breakthrough!
How is policy made?
Questions we are afraid to ask
 The bigger and bolder the question, the more likely we
are to achieve a breakthrough in thinking
 But are there some questions we are afraid to ask?
 Like the following…
Do we need farmers?
Do we need farmers?
 There are now 2,135 land concessions covering 1.6
million ha.
 These concessions are creating a new class of rural
workers in Laos. They don’t make any decisions, they
simply provide labour in return for cash
 They work on plantations, or they work in factories, in
Laos or Thailand
 In Marxist terms we can call them ‘wage slaves’
 Is this an acceptable and inevitable cost of
modernization? of turning land into capital? of economic
growth?
 Does agriculture need farmers or labourers?
Where did all the trees go?
Where did all the trees go?
 The target for forest cover continues to be 70%, last
achieved 50 years ago
 Despite all the good work of the Forestry Department,
most of us know that….
… the target is not realistic
 But are we allowed to say that?
 Can we openly discuss the role of corrupt officials rather
than continuing to blame swidden farmers?
 Can we discuss those reports that say the Vietnamese
military is involved in illegal logging?
Do dams affect food supply?
Do dams affect food supply?
 The ‘Battery of ASEAN’ is a visionary policy. More than
70 dams are planned
 There have already been negative impacts on rice and
fish, two basic foods for Lao people
 Is it possible to carry out an objective analysis of the
trade-offs between hydropower and agriculture?
 Is a win-win situation a practical reality or mere
propaganda?
 Questions have already been asked by CSOs at the
Agric Sector Meeting this month
 Is MAF ready to respond?
Are there any positive cases?
Can we learn
from rubber?
Can we learn from rubber?
 The rubber boom began in 2003 and 2004
 Important studies were completed in 2005 (Alton et al),
2006 (Manivong & Cramb), 2007 (NAFRI) and 2008
(Weiyi Shi)
 Is is now accepted that there are negative social and
environmental impacts from rubber plantations
 In May this year, MAF announced a cap of 300,000 ha
for rubber, and the new sector strategy focuses on
smallholders rather than large concessions
 This is good news, but could we have reached these
conclusions a bit earlier?
Barriers to critical thinking
 Whatever, it is characteristic of
traditional and authoritarian
regimes, where questioning policy is
seen as criticism of the
Church/King/Party/Dear Leader
 The ‘myth of infallibility’ is one of the
things that sustains these regimes
 Some might say there is a cultural
barrier, a respect for authority
 Others might say the barrier is fear
of the consequences
Barriers to critical thinking
 As a result, many Govt officials have learned to avoid
having a clear
opinion
 Or, alternatively, they view things in
BLACK &
 Consequently, there is no point is asking questions…
… either there is no answer
… or it has already been decided!
How can we do a better job?
 Firstly, those in power must show their subordinates that
it is safe to ask questions
 Critical thinking should be
rewarded, not punished
 Without this change, there will
be no breakthrough
How can we do a better job?
 Secondly, if de facto policy is created through
interpretation of goals at the Provincial level, we need to
engage with the contestants in the field
 The learning alliance facilitated by SADU is a good
example, bringing together a wide range of stakeholders
within a province to discuss tricky issues like market
regulations
 EMRIP has made similar achievements working with rice
millers and farmer groups in the south
 What matters at the end of the day is not how policy is
written, but how it is understood
How can we do a better job?
 Thirdly, development projects and programmes should
create spaces where critical thinking is not only
permitted, but also encouraged
 Eg. change the way we organise meetings
 And we could make greater use of web 2.0
eg. blogs, discussion groups and other social media
How can we do a better job?
 Fourthly, we need to produce materials that are
stimulating not soporific
 Shorter reports, policy briefs, fact sheets… with bullet
points, pictures, fact boxes and info-graphics
but will they read this?
 If they don’t read it, how can they analyse it?
How can we do a better job?
 Fifthly, we need to promote analytical concepts and
techniques that will help people to think in
colour
 Concepts and techniques that help people understand
different perspectives, alternatives, options, choices
Scenarios Force-fields
Narratives Trade-offs
Uncertainty Values
A simple conclusion…
 Policy making should be more ’open’
 Open has more than one meaning:
 Accessible (i.e. participatory and transparent)
 Candid (i.e. honest and forthright)
 We need both
 Open policy-making involves asking questions
 Open policy-making involves critical thinking
A simple conclusion…
Open policy making =
a breakthrough in thinking
Andrew Bartlett
Agricultural Policy Adviser, NUDP
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Questioning policy

  • 1. Andrew Bartlett Agricultural Policy Adviser, NUDP Questioning Policy
  • 2. A simple idea We can improve the policy making process by asking more questions
  • 3. Structure of this presentation  Background about NUDP  A breakthough in thinking  Does policy matter?  How is policy made?  Questions we are afraid to ask  Barriers to critical thinking  How can we do a better job?
  • 4. Background  The Northern Upland Development Programme is now operational, supported by 4 donor agencies  NUDP has a component called ‘Strengthening Government Agency Policy Making and Capitalization Capacity’  The Agricultural Policy Adviser started work in October this year  The framework proposed by the Adviser is based on the ‘4 breakthroughs’ announced at the 9th Party Congress
  • 5. A breakthrough in policy making A breakthrough in management of policy making A breakthrough in human resources for policy making A breakthrough in prioritizing poverty in policy making A breakthrough in thinking about policy
  • 6. The biggest challenge is… … a breakthrough in thinking  Asking questions is the key to achieving this breakthrough  Questioning has been used to improve thinking throughout human history … … from the Socratic Method and the Kalama Sutta to Empirical Science and Marxist Dialectic  This process is known as ‘critical thinking’
  • 7. Critical thinking  The word ‘critical’ has more than one meaning in the English language…  expressing disapproval  Involving an objective analysis  It is the second meaning that we are talking about
  • 8. Does policy matter?  It can be argued that government policy is no longer a ‘driver of change’  Public research and extension has less influence on agric development than regional economic integration, labour migration, and new channels of communication  The markets for maize, sugar, cassava and other commodities depend on decisions taken in Washington, Brussels and Beijing
  • 9. Does policy matter?  Nevertheless, the Government of Laos continues to play a role in regulating change  Policy allows some things to happen… … and blocks other things  But is policy research focusing on the right things?  Macro-level policies have the biggest impact on change processes  Yet a lot of policy research focuses on the micro-level
  • 10. Levels of policy  Visionary level  Eradicating poverty  Achieving 8% growth  Increasing forest cover  Modernizing production  The key question at this level is ‘What are the goals we want to achieve?’
  • 11. Levels of policy  Strategic level  Granting land concessions  Eradicating shifting cultivation  Resettlement of villages  Controlling market structures  The key question at this level is ‘How are we going to achieve our goals?’
  • 12. Levels of policy  Technical level level  Promoting specific crops or technologies  Re-organising government structures  Establishing khumban technical service centres  Setting up production and marketing groups  The key question at this level is ‘Who cares?  Most of these issues are inward looking  They are about the functioning of MAF and development projects, but have little or no impact on the lives of the majority of farmers
  • 13. Are we stuck in the middle?  We spend a lot of time studying technical issues that interest ourselves  Are we doing enough to help policy makers at the strategic level?  Are we doing enough to provide farmers with practical options?
  • 14.  Perhaps we could do a better job if we understood the policy-making process  It’s a mystery to most foreigners How is policy made?  But here are two hypotheses:  Firstly, a lot of de facto policy is made at the Provincial level  Here, visionary policy is not simply implemented, it is interpreted and adapted  Consequently, policy at the strategic level is a contest between national goals and local interests
  • 15.  Secondly, there is a lot of reactive (rather than proactive) policy making  Leaders encounter a problem, or see something they like, and make a decision  Eg. promoting TSCs or adopting SRI  Basing policy decisions on real-world problems and models is a good idea… … providing these decisions are not impulsive or autocratic  Ideally, these reactions should be treated as proposals, as suggestions, as opinions How is policy made?
  • 16.  Policy proposals need to be studied, tested, evaluated  The costs and benefits need to be calculated, and comparisons made with alternatives  In other words, proposals need to be the subject of critical thinking  But too often we find officials who are trying to implement something without knowing if it is possible or useful  Sometimes they don’t even understand what their boss wants, but they still try to do something  This is why we need a breakthrough! How is policy made?
  • 17. Questions we are afraid to ask  The bigger and bolder the question, the more likely we are to achieve a breakthrough in thinking  But are there some questions we are afraid to ask?  Like the following…
  • 18. Do we need farmers?
  • 19. Do we need farmers?  There are now 2,135 land concessions covering 1.6 million ha.  These concessions are creating a new class of rural workers in Laos. They don’t make any decisions, they simply provide labour in return for cash  They work on plantations, or they work in factories, in Laos or Thailand  In Marxist terms we can call them ‘wage slaves’  Is this an acceptable and inevitable cost of modernization? of turning land into capital? of economic growth?  Does agriculture need farmers or labourers?
  • 20. Where did all the trees go?
  • 21. Where did all the trees go?  The target for forest cover continues to be 70%, last achieved 50 years ago  Despite all the good work of the Forestry Department, most of us know that…. … the target is not realistic  But are we allowed to say that?  Can we openly discuss the role of corrupt officials rather than continuing to blame swidden farmers?  Can we discuss those reports that say the Vietnamese military is involved in illegal logging?
  • 22. Do dams affect food supply?
  • 23. Do dams affect food supply?  The ‘Battery of ASEAN’ is a visionary policy. More than 70 dams are planned  There have already been negative impacts on rice and fish, two basic foods for Lao people  Is it possible to carry out an objective analysis of the trade-offs between hydropower and agriculture?  Is a win-win situation a practical reality or mere propaganda?  Questions have already been asked by CSOs at the Agric Sector Meeting this month  Is MAF ready to respond?
  • 24. Are there any positive cases? Can we learn from rubber?
  • 25. Can we learn from rubber?  The rubber boom began in 2003 and 2004  Important studies were completed in 2005 (Alton et al), 2006 (Manivong & Cramb), 2007 (NAFRI) and 2008 (Weiyi Shi)  Is is now accepted that there are negative social and environmental impacts from rubber plantations  In May this year, MAF announced a cap of 300,000 ha for rubber, and the new sector strategy focuses on smallholders rather than large concessions  This is good news, but could we have reached these conclusions a bit earlier?
  • 26. Barriers to critical thinking  Whatever, it is characteristic of traditional and authoritarian regimes, where questioning policy is seen as criticism of the Church/King/Party/Dear Leader  The ‘myth of infallibility’ is one of the things that sustains these regimes  Some might say there is a cultural barrier, a respect for authority  Others might say the barrier is fear of the consequences
  • 27. Barriers to critical thinking  As a result, many Govt officials have learned to avoid having a clear opinion  Or, alternatively, they view things in BLACK &  Consequently, there is no point is asking questions… … either there is no answer … or it has already been decided!
  • 28. How can we do a better job?  Firstly, those in power must show their subordinates that it is safe to ask questions  Critical thinking should be rewarded, not punished  Without this change, there will be no breakthrough
  • 29. How can we do a better job?  Secondly, if de facto policy is created through interpretation of goals at the Provincial level, we need to engage with the contestants in the field  The learning alliance facilitated by SADU is a good example, bringing together a wide range of stakeholders within a province to discuss tricky issues like market regulations  EMRIP has made similar achievements working with rice millers and farmer groups in the south  What matters at the end of the day is not how policy is written, but how it is understood
  • 30. How can we do a better job?  Thirdly, development projects and programmes should create spaces where critical thinking is not only permitted, but also encouraged  Eg. change the way we organise meetings  And we could make greater use of web 2.0 eg. blogs, discussion groups and other social media
  • 31. How can we do a better job?  Fourthly, we need to produce materials that are stimulating not soporific  Shorter reports, policy briefs, fact sheets… with bullet points, pictures, fact boxes and info-graphics but will they read this?  If they don’t read it, how can they analyse it?
  • 32. How can we do a better job?  Fifthly, we need to promote analytical concepts and techniques that will help people to think in colour  Concepts and techniques that help people understand different perspectives, alternatives, options, choices Scenarios Force-fields Narratives Trade-offs Uncertainty Values
  • 33. A simple conclusion…  Policy making should be more ’open’  Open has more than one meaning:  Accessible (i.e. participatory and transparent)  Candid (i.e. honest and forthright)  We need both  Open policy-making involves asking questions  Open policy-making involves critical thinking
  • 34. A simple conclusion… Open policy making = a breakthrough in thinking
  • 35. Andrew Bartlett Agricultural Policy Adviser, NUDP Any Questions?