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Let’s Stop Making
Each Other Feel
Stupid
@ClareSudbery
MadeTech
Imagine a world…
Being an
effective IT
professional
is not about
what you
know!
• Judging
people
• Laughing at
people
• Talking in
jargon
• Not training
juniors
• Gatekeeping
• Rock star
developers
• Everyone
knows more
than me
• Hiding our
ignorance
• Seniors
knowing
most
• Tech is the
hardest part
CLOSE YOUR
EYES
Making Each
Other Feel
Stupid
How does it
happen?
Talking
negatively
about
others
Laughing at
people
Talking in
jargon
Talking in
jargon
Being
reluctant
to train
juniors
The Lucky 10,000
Gatekeeping
The range of knowledge in
our industry is very wide
The range of
knowledge in our
industry is VERY WIDE
ROCK-
STAR
DEVS?
Assuming
everyone
else knows
more than
us
Ilianna:
Terraform Kirsty:
Hadoop
Mircea: iOS Native
Esra: SonarQube
Georgia: Golang
Rob: AWS
Scott: AiOps
Andy: Encryption
Anik:
PySpark
Jon: CentOS 7
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Terraform CentOS 7 Hadoop iOS Native
SonarQube
Golang
AWS
AiOps
PySpark Recursion
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop iOS Native
SonarQube
Golang
AWS
AiOps
Recursion
Encryption
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop
iOS Native
Golang
AWS AiOps
398373
Encryption
PySpark
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop
iOS Native
AWS AiOps Recursion
Encryption
PySpark
SonarQube
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
CentOS 7
Hadoop
iOS Native
AWS
AiOps Recursion Encryption
PySpark
SonarQube
Golang
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Hadoop
iOS Native
AWS
AiOps
Recursion Encryption PySpark
SonarQube
Golang
Terraform
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
iOS Native
AWS
AiOps
Recursion
Encryption PySpark SonarQube
Golang
Terraform
CentOS 7
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
AWS
AiOps
Recursion
Encryption PySpark SonarQube Golang
Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
AiOps
Recursion
Encryption
PySpark SonarQube Golang Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop
iOS Native
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Recursion
Encryption
PySpark
SonarQube Golang Terraform
CentOS 7
Hadoop
iOS Native
AWS
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Terraform Data analytics
Hadoop
iOS Native
SonarQube
Golang
AWS
AiOps
Encryption
PySpark
THE WHEEL OF CONFUSION
Assuming
everyone
else knows
more than
us
Hiding our
own ignorance
Hiding our
own ignorance
Believing we
should know
more than
everyone else
Assuming
the tech is
the hard
part
(spoiler:
It’s not)
My
experience -
the
happy
story
"Be curious. Read widely. Try new things. What people call
intelligence just boils down to curiosity." - Aaron Swartz
The Stupidity Manifesto
The Stupidity Manifesto
• LET’S STOP MAKING PEOPLE FEEL STUPID. INSTEAD, LET’S…
• Have an explicit policy of curiosity towards all things
• Encourage each other to shout out if we discourage curiosity
• Ask what people NEED to know, not what they know
• Never judge someone because their knowledge doesn’t match ours
• Give our colleagues every opportunity to learn and explore WITHOUT
RISK
• Give new people a chance to show us what they can do
• ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ASK QUESTIONS
• Acknowledge the broad range of knowledge in our industry
The Stupidity Manifesto
• LET’S STOP MAKING EACH OTHER FEEL STUPID. INSTEAD, LET’S…
• Remember our industry never stays the same
• Remember we all forget stuff
• Lead by example: Be honest when we’re confused
• Focus on aptitude, not knowledge
• Remember what it feels like when we are still learning
• Prioritise clarity over jargon
• Remember this is not idealism, it’s pragmatism
• LET’S STOP MAKING EACH OTHER FEEL STUPID.
What can you do to make things better?
The most useful talks are those that result in action
Did you come up with any new suggestions?
Resources and References
• Delusions of Gender: Cordelia Fine
• April Wensel (@aprilwensel): Compassionate coding
• Blog: https://medium.com/compassionate-coding
• Site: https://compassionatecoding.com/
• “Software development that values humans”
• https://insimpleterms.blog/2017/10/16/advice-for-women-or-anyone-starting-a-
career-in-tech/ - Advice for anyone starting a career in tech
• https://insimpleterms.blog/2017/10/13/resources-for-women-arriving-at-or-
returning-to-it/ - Resources for Women Arriving at or Returning to IT
• https://insimpleterms.blog/
• https://medium.com/a-woman-in-technology - learning, teaching, women in tech,
maths
Questions /
Discussion
I host a podcast…
tinyurl.com/making-tech-better
THANK YOU
madetech.com/careers
• Judging
people
• Laughing at
people
• Talking in
jargon
• Won’t train
juniors
• Gatekeeping
• Rock star
devs
• Everyone
knows more
than me
• Hiding our
ignorance
• We must
know most
• Tech harder
than people

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Let's Stop Making Each Other Feel Stupid

Editor's Notes

  1. Clare Sudbery Software engineer, 21 years Academy lead, Made Tech Consultancy Help people develop effective software Paula Paul (podcast): “The technology is the easy part” – really it’s all about the people GIVE ME FEEDBACK
  2. No imposter syndrome Arrive at work excited about learning new things Never worry about not knowing enough
  3. Being an effective IT professional is NOT about what you know But we think it is – and that causes problems
  4. I’m going to talk about… The following problems Their impacts What we can do to make things better Judging people for lack of knowledge Laughing at people for lack of knowledge Talking in jargon Individuals and companies often reluctant to train juniors Gatekeeping – only let certain people through The idea of “rock star developers” – special individuals better than everyone else Individuals - Assuming everyone else knows more than we do Hiding our own lack of knowledge Senior believing we’re supposed to know more than everyone else Assuming that tech is the hard part of this industry (spoiler: it’s not)
  5. So, why do I care so much about this? I’m going to tell you a story…
  6. A story. Once upon a time… Woman. Software engineer, background in maths. Used to being in a minority. Women can’t do maths. Reinforced by experience. Came to IT late. First job, intimidated: men doing IT since kids. Second job, kept getting knocked back Interview: more senior position. Faced incredulity: Didn’t know enough. After 12 years, redundancy - a relief. DIDN’T WANT TO WORK IN I.T. ANY MORE.
  7. So, that was my background – left industry because felt inadequate I was always feeling stupid – and I noticed my colleagues and direct reports and mentees did too - and I noticed the behaviours that were causing this I’m going to run through some of those behaviours Talk about their impacts and some ways we could do things differently
  8. PROBLEM Judging other people based on their knowledge. “Wow, I just discovered my colleague doesn’t understand Y. I’m shocked.” “Can you believe, I just interviewed this dev, and they didn’t even know what a Z was?” Have you ever done this? 2 mins to discuss IMPACT My background – left industry because felt inadequate People overhear others’ judgements of others and internalise it SOLUTION just because the target can’t hear you, doesn’t mean others aren’t internalising it
  9. PROBLEM Laughing / sneering at people who don’t know about IT Eg our parents / mothers Have you ever judged someone else’s knowledge? WHY? IMPACT Imposter syndrome Hands up if you’ve ever worried about being found out for not being as proficient as everyone thinks? If everyone feels like this, it’s crazy! SOLUTION have empathy Are you failing to put yourself into other people’s shoes?
  10. PROBLEM Feeling insecure, wanting to prove you fit in Scenario: ARM processor
  11. Here’s a really typical example of people vtalking in jargon Scenario A: I’m late to a meeting where people talk jargon & nobody understands Me: Hi, sorry I’m late It’s fine, we were just talking about the ARM processor Ah right, yes of course ARM. Shit, ARM, I know I’ve heard of that before. ARM, um… [some stuff I don’t hear cos I’m trying to remember what ARM stands for] Me: Look, I’m so sorry, but I’ve forgotten what ARM stands for? Them: Articulated retention matriculation Oh. I have NO idea what that is. I’ll work it out as I go along Them: Although actually, we should really be considering AMRM at this point Me: AMRM? Them: Articulated meta-retention matriculation. It's all in the document. Weren't you hired for your expertise in this area? Really we need to move on. Someone else: That’s a very good point! We definitely need to get meta at this juncture. Me: Oh God, I was only just following this, but now they’ve lost me. Meta? What does meta mean in this context? What does meta mean in any context? It’s one of those concepts that signifies that things are about to get confusing, I know that much Other person: I don’t really know what I just said, but people seem to agree. And I said juncture. I love saying juncture. It’s the perfect word for situations like this. [some stuff that Person2 misses cos they’re worrying about what meta means]
  12. IMPACT colleagues struggle to understand you, but pretend they do… Weird vicious cycle: everybody obfuscates to protect selves confuse everybody, who is then terrified and so talks in more jargon… and so the cycle continues. Feeling great when you finally can use long words – pulling ladder up behind you SOLUTION Explain your terms! And give people the opportunity to ask. Don’t assume
  13. PROBLEM Reluctance to teach juniors Can’t spend your whole time teaching people I need people who can hit the ground running Are you hoarding / not sharing your own knowledge? Think of the times others shared with you IMPACT Skills shortage Fear SOLUTION consciously teach people everybody benefits from teaching juniors Understand people can improve Pairing I have a whole other talk on this, but assume people can learn Encourage learning Build a culture of teaching and learning Encourage people to explore and experiment and learn WITHOUT RISK Stops people pushing less optimal solutions Explicit statements to newcomers, at start of meetings, etc - on policy towards curiosity - plus encouragement to give feedback if this aim is not being met. The Lucky 10,000
  14. Make this point stand out more: reframing “you don't know” to "you have the opportunity to learn".
  15. PROBLEM Gatekeeping / Narrow recruitment policies IMPACT can’t find the “right people” SOLUTION What is actually required for competency? If people don't know enough, WHY is that? What's deterring them? Focus on aptitude Career changers and boot camps Degrees are often not fit for purpose Are you asking for degrees because you really need them or because the senior people in your org all have them and don’t like the idea that they might not be as useful as they thought
  16. Range of knowledge in IT is VERY WIDE Just because they haven’t encountered the thing you think they need to know, doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be an asset Don’t ask whether they have what you need Ask what they DO have They might have skills and knowledge you never even thought of
  17. PROBLEM: Joel Spolsky’s book on recruitment IMPACT: Lack of confidence disproportionately affects under-represented groups People want to fit in People will leave, or not join in the first place Stereotype threat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat If negative stereotypes are present, people become anxious about their skills – prevents them performing at levels they’re capable of. Shown to reduce performance Do not need to subscribe to the stereotype for it to be activated. “This is a talk aimed at women” SOLUTION Aim for collaboration over heroes and rock stars they don’t help teams and they increase bus factor
  18. PROBLEM Assume everyone else knows more than we do IMPACT Wheel of confusion
  19. Software-dev TW mailing group – intimidated by topics that others seem comfortable with Aside: When choosing topics for this slide, I chose a fair few that looked scary to me… then panicked that everyone else would think they were easy and be confused why I might find them intimidating! Names: anti-clockwise from me: Scott Davies, Rob Chow, Mircea, Kirsty Devlin, Jon Dunleavy, Ilianna Papastefanou, Georgia Barker, Esra Yetis, Anik Kale, Andy Birds.
  20. Andy
  21. Anik
  22. Esra
  23. Georgia
  24. Ilianna
  25. Jon
  26. Kirsty
  27. Mircea
  28. Rob
  29. Scott
  30. SOLUTION pay attention to those faces on the wheel of confusion
  31. PROBLEM: Hiding our own ignorance Scenario: hairdresser
  32. HIDING OUR OWN IGNORANCE Scenario E: The hairdresser Giving the answer you think people want to hear The hairdresser asked me whether I had straighteners and I answered Yes. Why? Because I felt like it was the “right answer”. YOU FEEL LIKE AN IMPOSTOR WHEN YOU HEAR YOURSELF GIVE STUPID ANSWERS JUST BECAUSE THEY SEEM LIKE THE “RIGHT” ANSWER
  33. PROBLEM: Are you projecting sheen of knowledge to protect yourself? IMPACT This limits you as well as others We end up not getting what we need Eg maintainable hair! SOLUTION ask questions and admit ignorance WE SHOULD ALL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ASK QUESTIONS Model the showing of vulnerability Psychological safety Eternal thanks to those who told me they were confused Some of the most important points in my career Tweet from Tim Post (@TinkerTim) re Stack Overflow: “You can't work on problems that you're unwilling to admit. Wanting help often means being vulnerable enough to ask for it, and that's where we are. Let's keep making the internet better, without hurting people in the process.”
  34. PROBLEM Believe that when senior, we should know more than everyone else IMPACT Feel threatened by the knowledge of others Or don’t notice it Or don’t appreciate it SOLUTION you want people who know more than you Surround yourself with people better than you
  35. PROBLEM Assuming the tech is the hard part (it’s actually the people) IMPACT We don’t worry about how people are impacted by our actions We don’t recognise the value of learning over knowledge SOLUTION Pay attention to people The first value in the Agile Manifesto is “Individuals and interactions over processes and tools.”
  36. EMOTION. Everything came good. Repackaging ignorance as an exciting opportunity But also, recognising all the learnt stuff behind me The irony is that my career – and my enjoyment of it – has improved dramatically since I started admitting ignorance
  37. Aaron Swartz was a ThoughtWorks employee and political activist who sadly died in 2013. This matters. I care more about this than any other talk.
  38. Discuss your commitment to change. What will you commit to?
  39. Share anything new with the group
  40. Jessica Kerr - symmathesy Paula Paul - transformation Jon Skeet – coding for fun Kit Collingwood – tech for common good Dave Rogers – toxic technology Aino Corry – retrospectives antipatterns -- NEXT WEEK: Esther Derby – people and patterns Kevlin Henney – balancing change Anne-Marie Imafidon – women in technology taking control Meri Williams – bringing change to legacy tech --
  41. Also, we are recruiting: madetech.com/careers
  42. PROBLEM Gatekeeping / Narrow recruitment policies IMPACT can’t find the “right people” SOLUTION What is actually required for competency? If people don't know enough, WHY is that? What's deterring them? Focus on aptitude Career changers and boot camps Degrees are often not fit for purpose Are you asking for degrees because you really need them or because the senior people in your org all have them and don’t like the idea that they might not be as useful as they thought