Breaking the mold: Lean Product 
Management and MVP in a large company 
Ilia Kuznetsov 
Deputy CTO, Strategy Development 
Kaspersky Lab 
http://ru.linkedin.com/in/iliakuznetsov/ 
ilia.v.kuznetsov@gmail.com
How decisions on the product future 
are made? 
Business plan 
Processes 
Opinions 
2 
Cannot be tested 
Long and boring 
…yes… and opinions…
Now try to sell a business plan to a VC… 
“No business plan survives first contact with 
the customer” 
3 
“Your opinion although interesting is 
irrelevant” 
“Nothing important happens in the office” 
“There are no facts inside the 
building, so get the heck 
outside” -- Steve Blank
An experiment with the market? MVP! 
MVP (Minimal Viable Product) – smallest 
product increment that can accelerate the 
learning necessary to develop a sustainable 
business model in highly uncertain markets. 
4 
A dron with a hyper-spectral camera 
MVP ≠ Prototype 
MVP ≠ Cheaper Developed 
Product 
MVP = “fake it before you make it”
Dropbox, Facebook… KASPERSKY??? 
6 
Private beta: Mar 2008
Kaspersky Security Scan: 
Case Study 
7 
• Free antimalware scanner for PC 
• Revenues from the user’s traffic: 
~ $ 7-digit 
• Release cycle: 6-8 mon
MVP1: Decrease conversion time 
8 
• CRkis >> CR1 
• 22% prefer to install Kaspersky 
Internet Security right away! 
• CRnew = 88%*CR1 + 22%*CRkis 
• Wait a couple of month to get the 
statistics on CRkis…
MVP1: Find the bottleneck 
9 
Fix installer bug 
2.5x Conversion Rate 
in the full funnel! 
Sub-funnel: “Get full protection” 
• Product is not changed 
• No release yet 
• Efforts… 2 m/week
MVP2: New feature 
10 
Results: 
• > 50% attempts to use the function 
• > 60% installed Kaspersky Internet Security 
• > 60% installation with other АV 
Conclusion: 
• Yes, implement it! (grounded $ projection available) 
• Although efforts are needed, need to be compatible 
with other AV 
• Compatibility of KIS with other AV for displacement is 
a must
MVP is a challenge for big companies 
11 
Big company Startup 
Stable business-model Not fully defined business model 
Processes: sync for a large number of 
people is needed, quality requirements 
Processes and quality requirements not 
that important 
Plans on KPI Fail Fast
Startup + operational company = 
12 
DUAL-TRACK AGILE
Fast-track Team Recipe 
Developer Designer 
MVP-champion release cycle (6-12 month) 
13 
Business Dp R&D 
~week 
Fast Track 
Team 
~2-8 weeks 
Test hypothesis 
VS status quo 
Understand the essence of 
the formal processes 
(legal, requirement flow, 
quality requirements) 
Specific 
competences vs 
«typical» for 
development 
Hustler 
Hacker Hipster
Get the heck outside… 
14 
Juha Nasreddin 
… but before getting the facts 
from outside, think how to 
bring them inside
Read that! 
• The Four Steps to the Epiphany – Steve Blank 
• How to Create Products Customers Love – Marty Cagan 
Contacts: 
http://ru.linkedin.com/in/iliakuznetsov 
ilia.v.kuznetsov@gmail.com 
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Breaking the mold: Lean Product Management and MVP in a Large Company

  • 1.
    Breaking the mold:Lean Product Management and MVP in a large company Ilia Kuznetsov Deputy CTO, Strategy Development Kaspersky Lab http://ru.linkedin.com/in/iliakuznetsov/ ilia.v.kuznetsov@gmail.com
  • 2.
    How decisions onthe product future are made? Business plan Processes Opinions 2 Cannot be tested Long and boring …yes… and opinions…
  • 3.
    Now try tosell a business plan to a VC… “No business plan survives first contact with the customer” 3 “Your opinion although interesting is irrelevant” “Nothing important happens in the office” “There are no facts inside the building, so get the heck outside” -- Steve Blank
  • 4.
    An experiment withthe market? MVP! MVP (Minimal Viable Product) – smallest product increment that can accelerate the learning necessary to develop a sustainable business model in highly uncertain markets. 4 A dron with a hyper-spectral camera MVP ≠ Prototype MVP ≠ Cheaper Developed Product MVP = “fake it before you make it”
  • 5.
    Dropbox, Facebook… KASPERSKY??? 6 Private beta: Mar 2008
  • 6.
    Kaspersky Security Scan: Case Study 7 • Free antimalware scanner for PC • Revenues from the user’s traffic: ~ $ 7-digit • Release cycle: 6-8 mon
  • 7.
    MVP1: Decrease conversiontime 8 • CRkis >> CR1 • 22% prefer to install Kaspersky Internet Security right away! • CRnew = 88%*CR1 + 22%*CRkis • Wait a couple of month to get the statistics on CRkis…
  • 8.
    MVP1: Find thebottleneck 9 Fix installer bug 2.5x Conversion Rate in the full funnel! Sub-funnel: “Get full protection” • Product is not changed • No release yet • Efforts… 2 m/week
  • 9.
    MVP2: New feature 10 Results: • > 50% attempts to use the function • > 60% installed Kaspersky Internet Security • > 60% installation with other АV Conclusion: • Yes, implement it! (grounded $ projection available) • Although efforts are needed, need to be compatible with other AV • Compatibility of KIS with other AV for displacement is a must
  • 10.
    MVP is achallenge for big companies 11 Big company Startup Stable business-model Not fully defined business model Processes: sync for a large number of people is needed, quality requirements Processes and quality requirements not that important Plans on KPI Fail Fast
  • 11.
    Startup + operationalcompany = 12 DUAL-TRACK AGILE
  • 12.
    Fast-track Team Recipe Developer Designer MVP-champion release cycle (6-12 month) 13 Business Dp R&D ~week Fast Track Team ~2-8 weeks Test hypothesis VS status quo Understand the essence of the formal processes (legal, requirement flow, quality requirements) Specific competences vs «typical» for development Hustler Hacker Hipster
  • 13.
    Get the heckoutside… 14 Juha Nasreddin … but before getting the facts from outside, think how to bring them inside
  • 14.
    Read that! •The Four Steps to the Epiphany – Steve Blank • How to Create Products Customers Love – Marty Cagan Contacts: http://ru.linkedin.com/in/iliakuznetsov ilia.v.kuznetsov@gmail.com 15