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Getting Paid: 
Billing and Collection Strategies for the 
Food & Agriculture Lawyer 
American Agriculture Law Association (AALA) Roundtable Discussion 
October 21, 2014
Moderator: Cari Rincker, Esq. 
Rincker Law, PLLC 
535 Fifth Avenue, 4th Floor 
New York, NY 10017 
(212) 427-2049 
cari@rinckerlaw.com 
www.rinckerlaw.com
Faculty: Robert Moore, Esq. 
Wright & Moore 
4266 Tuller Road 
Dublin, OH 43017 
(614) 791-9112 
rmoore@ohiofarmlaw.com 
www.ohiofarmlaw.com
Faculty: Allen H. Olson, Esq. 
415 Pine Avenue 
Albany, GA 31701 
allen@olsonaglaw.com
This Will Be A Roundtable Discussion 
• This is not your typical presentation – 
we don’t have the answers, only the 
conversation starters. 
 We want this to be an interactive 
conversation 
 We will first take comments from the faculty 
members and then from the audience 
 The hope is that we can learn from each 
other’s experiences 
• We want to focus the conversation on 
food/ag clients
Why Have This Roundtable 
Discussion? 
• During my experience as the Chair of the American Bar 
Association, General Practice, Solo & Small Firm 
Agriculture Law Committee, many attorneys have come 
to me and said: 
 I want to practice agriculture law/food law/equine law, but I don’t 
know how to make a living at it. 
 Most of my food/ag clients don’t want to pay much for legal 
services. I want to help them but I need to make a living at the 
same time. 
 I want to have a larger percentage of my practice be food/ag but 
don’t know how to do it. I need other types of clients to keep me in 
business.
Topic Overview 
• Picking the Right Clients 
• Billing Arrangements 
• Client Relationships 
• Retainer Agreements 
• Billing Practices 
• Collection Issues
Picking the Right Clients 
• How has your client 
selection affected the 
business of your law 
practice and your ability 
to get paid? 
 What traits are you 
looking for? 
 What are the “red flags”?
Billing Arrangements 
• How do you bill your food and 
agriculture clients? 
 What has been your experience with flat 
fee arrangements? 
 What are the advantages and 
disadvantages of working with the billable 
hour? 
 Any luck with subscription services? 
 How have you used contingency or partial 
contingency? 
 Do you offer clients a bulk rate discount?
Billing Arrangements 
•What have you found to be the 
most effective billing strategy 
for: 
 Different types of food/ag clients 
 Practice Areas 
 Contracts 
 Business/ succession/ estate planning 
 Farm real estate transactions
Legal “Packages” or “Bundles” 
• Have you found any success selling 
“packages” of legal services to food and 
agriculture clients? 
 Example: 
 Cottage food operator (making homemade goods) – Letter 
memorializing legal issues, business formation, insurance 
review, and permit application (if applicable in the state) 
•What have you found to be effective ways to 
“reuse” and “resell” work product to similar 
clients?
The Billable Hour 
• How do you decide your rate? 
• Do you have different billable 
hour rates for different types of 
clients? 
• Do you bill out for 
administrative help? 
• Do you bill by the .1 or .25 
hour? 
• How do you deal with client 
pushback on billable time?
Client Relationships 
• Have you found that your 
relationship with your clients 
helps diminish accounts 
receivable issues? 
 What has been the most beneficial? 
 What are some customer-service or 
relationship tips for the food/ag client? 
 How do you handle facetime vs. 
phonetime to work on client 
relationships? 
 Do you send your clients a holiday 
present?
The Retainer 
• How much should an “up front” 
retainer be? 
• How do you get clients to refund 
the retainer (i.e., the “Evergreen 
Retainer”)? 
•When should you not use an up-front 
retainer and just bill clients 
as you go?
Retainer Agreements/ 
Engagement Letters 
•What terms in your Retainer 
Agreement/ Engagement 
Letter have been the most 
useful on getting paid? 
What has worked? 
 What hasn’t?
Billing Practices 
• How often do you bill? 
• Do you send the bills electronically or 
hard copy via mail? 
• What billing program do you use? 
• What level of detail do you include the 
bill? 
 How descriptive are your bills? 
• What methods of payments do you 
accept? 
• What is your most useful tip for bills?
Collection Issues 
•When should the lawyer send 
written reminder notices? 
•When should the lawyer make 
phone calls? 
•When should the lawyer fire the 
client? 
•What has your experience been 
with liens for legal fees (e.g., 
retaining lien, charging lien, 
security lien)?
War Stories 
• How did you obtain your most profitable client? 
• What was the best business decision that you made in your 
food/ag law practice? 
• What has helped you make the most money in your food/ag law 
practice? 
• What has been the biggest lesson you have learned in your 
food/ag law practice? 
• How did you handle your most difficult client? 
• Describe a time when you had trouble collecting from a client. 
What did you do?
Any last tips? 
• What haven’t we 
covered that has 
helped you build a 
successful law practice? 
What has helped you 
get paid/collect from a 
client? 
 What has helped 
prevent accounts 
receivable problems?

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Getting Paid: Billing and Collection Strategies for the Food & Agriculture Lawyer

  • 1. Getting Paid: Billing and Collection Strategies for the Food & Agriculture Lawyer American Agriculture Law Association (AALA) Roundtable Discussion October 21, 2014
  • 2. Moderator: Cari Rincker, Esq. Rincker Law, PLLC 535 Fifth Avenue, 4th Floor New York, NY 10017 (212) 427-2049 cari@rinckerlaw.com www.rinckerlaw.com
  • 3. Faculty: Robert Moore, Esq. Wright & Moore 4266 Tuller Road Dublin, OH 43017 (614) 791-9112 rmoore@ohiofarmlaw.com www.ohiofarmlaw.com
  • 4. Faculty: Allen H. Olson, Esq. 415 Pine Avenue Albany, GA 31701 allen@olsonaglaw.com
  • 5. This Will Be A Roundtable Discussion • This is not your typical presentation – we don’t have the answers, only the conversation starters.  We want this to be an interactive conversation  We will first take comments from the faculty members and then from the audience  The hope is that we can learn from each other’s experiences • We want to focus the conversation on food/ag clients
  • 6. Why Have This Roundtable Discussion? • During my experience as the Chair of the American Bar Association, General Practice, Solo & Small Firm Agriculture Law Committee, many attorneys have come to me and said:  I want to practice agriculture law/food law/equine law, but I don’t know how to make a living at it.  Most of my food/ag clients don’t want to pay much for legal services. I want to help them but I need to make a living at the same time.  I want to have a larger percentage of my practice be food/ag but don’t know how to do it. I need other types of clients to keep me in business.
  • 7. Topic Overview • Picking the Right Clients • Billing Arrangements • Client Relationships • Retainer Agreements • Billing Practices • Collection Issues
  • 8. Picking the Right Clients • How has your client selection affected the business of your law practice and your ability to get paid?  What traits are you looking for?  What are the “red flags”?
  • 9. Billing Arrangements • How do you bill your food and agriculture clients?  What has been your experience with flat fee arrangements?  What are the advantages and disadvantages of working with the billable hour?  Any luck with subscription services?  How have you used contingency or partial contingency?  Do you offer clients a bulk rate discount?
  • 10. Billing Arrangements •What have you found to be the most effective billing strategy for:  Different types of food/ag clients  Practice Areas  Contracts  Business/ succession/ estate planning  Farm real estate transactions
  • 11. Legal “Packages” or “Bundles” • Have you found any success selling “packages” of legal services to food and agriculture clients?  Example:  Cottage food operator (making homemade goods) – Letter memorializing legal issues, business formation, insurance review, and permit application (if applicable in the state) •What have you found to be effective ways to “reuse” and “resell” work product to similar clients?
  • 12. The Billable Hour • How do you decide your rate? • Do you have different billable hour rates for different types of clients? • Do you bill out for administrative help? • Do you bill by the .1 or .25 hour? • How do you deal with client pushback on billable time?
  • 13. Client Relationships • Have you found that your relationship with your clients helps diminish accounts receivable issues?  What has been the most beneficial?  What are some customer-service or relationship tips for the food/ag client?  How do you handle facetime vs. phonetime to work on client relationships?  Do you send your clients a holiday present?
  • 14. The Retainer • How much should an “up front” retainer be? • How do you get clients to refund the retainer (i.e., the “Evergreen Retainer”)? •When should you not use an up-front retainer and just bill clients as you go?
  • 15. Retainer Agreements/ Engagement Letters •What terms in your Retainer Agreement/ Engagement Letter have been the most useful on getting paid? What has worked?  What hasn’t?
  • 16. Billing Practices • How often do you bill? • Do you send the bills electronically or hard copy via mail? • What billing program do you use? • What level of detail do you include the bill?  How descriptive are your bills? • What methods of payments do you accept? • What is your most useful tip for bills?
  • 17. Collection Issues •When should the lawyer send written reminder notices? •When should the lawyer make phone calls? •When should the lawyer fire the client? •What has your experience been with liens for legal fees (e.g., retaining lien, charging lien, security lien)?
  • 18. War Stories • How did you obtain your most profitable client? • What was the best business decision that you made in your food/ag law practice? • What has helped you make the most money in your food/ag law practice? • What has been the biggest lesson you have learned in your food/ag law practice? • How did you handle your most difficult client? • Describe a time when you had trouble collecting from a client. What did you do?
  • 19. Any last tips? • What haven’t we covered that has helped you build a successful law practice? What has helped you get paid/collect from a client?  What has helped prevent accounts receivable problems?