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An Open Discussion With a Convicted Fraudster
Gary Zeune Tom Hughes
v5.1
Required Legal Stuff
The following policies govern the use of these materials:
These materials are intended for use in group study situations and were not developed for self-study or
reference uses. These materials are copyrighted. Reproduction of the manual or any portion of it is
prohibited unless written permission has been obtained from Gary D. Zeune.
These materials were prepared solely for the purpose of continuing professional education. They are distributed with the understanding
that Gary Zeune is not engaged in rendering legal, accounting, or other professional services. If legal advice or other expert assistance
is required, the services of a competent professional should be sought.
Participants are advised that the Statement on Standards for Formal Continuing Education (CPE) Programs places responsibility on both
the individual participant and the program sponsor to maintain a record of attendance at a CPE program.
The information the participant should keep on each program is (a) sponsor's name, (b) title and/or description of content, (c) date(s) of
the program, (d) location, (e) number of CPE contact hours. This information is found in the printed program for most courses or
conferences and/or in a CPE attendance record form. Either or both of these documents should be kept for an appropriate period to
enable regular periodic reporting to jurisdictional board(s) and to professional organizations requiring such reports.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 2
Gary Zeune CPA
Gary Zeune CPA has 40+ years in public accounting, corporate finance,
investment banking and had been teaching CPAs full time since 1987.
He also has the only speakers bureau in the U.S. for white collar criminals.
The Pros & The Cons has been profiled in NY Times, WSJ, LA Times,
Forbes and numerous other publications.
Since 1987 more than 20,000 professionals have attended his classes on
fraud, ethics and corporate strategy.
He writes extensively and has had more than 20 articles published in national magazines and
journals.
www.TheProsAndTheCons.com
gzfraud@TheProsAndTheCons.com
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 3
Tom Hughes
Speaker On Financial Crime, Ministry And Professional Responsibility
ACFE National Conference presentation: How A Fraudster's First
Stolen Dollar Turned Into Much More
Tom has spoken at the ACFE National Convention and more than 50
government agencies, colleges and universities, and CPA firms. In
addition he partnered with the Vermont State Auditor’s Office, FBI
and/or State Police to train many local governments.
tom@hireathief.com
http://hireathief.com or www.fraudspeaker.net
Watch Fraudsters Tom Hughes
and Diann Cattani talk about trust
4© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE
The hardest dollar to steal –
– is the very first one.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 5
You didn’t commit the crime, so…
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 6
Whatever you do, don’t tell your target
how it was done!
If you get it wrong, your target knows
you’re guessing!
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 7
No, you will not see it coming.
© 2020 Thomas Hughes + Gary Zeune
If you could, you would
not have hired me.
8
I can’t steal from you –
- until you trust me.
© 2020 Thomas Hughes + Gary Zeune 9
Money that’s never stolen –
- never has to be recovered.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 10
Please: Read your mail.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 11
Stop a thief with a Post-it®
note.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 12
Would I hire me?
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 13
Do I have to pay taxes on this?
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 14
Give me six weeks.
Maybe less.
More to the point:
Two bank statements.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 15
Let me introduce myself:
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 16
Let me introduce myself:
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 17
Opportunity
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE
Source: The Fraud Triangle | ACFE
18
Opportunity
Capability
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE
Adapted from The Fraud Diamond, CPA Journal
19
Stealing turned me into a thief.
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 20
A Few Red Flags
• Unsustainable lifestyle outside of work
• Eager for more responsibility, but…
• Won’t take a promotion
• Unfaithfulness in small matters
• Failing to share over information
• Debt collectors or process servers
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 21
Tom Hughes
www.fraudspeaker.net
@formercriminal
© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 22

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Gary Zeune and Tom Hughes 2020 Williamsburg Fraud Conference

  • 1. An Open Discussion With a Convicted Fraudster Gary Zeune Tom Hughes v5.1
  • 2. Required Legal Stuff The following policies govern the use of these materials: These materials are intended for use in group study situations and were not developed for self-study or reference uses. These materials are copyrighted. Reproduction of the manual or any portion of it is prohibited unless written permission has been obtained from Gary D. Zeune. These materials were prepared solely for the purpose of continuing professional education. They are distributed with the understanding that Gary Zeune is not engaged in rendering legal, accounting, or other professional services. If legal advice or other expert assistance is required, the services of a competent professional should be sought. Participants are advised that the Statement on Standards for Formal Continuing Education (CPE) Programs places responsibility on both the individual participant and the program sponsor to maintain a record of attendance at a CPE program. The information the participant should keep on each program is (a) sponsor's name, (b) title and/or description of content, (c) date(s) of the program, (d) location, (e) number of CPE contact hours. This information is found in the printed program for most courses or conferences and/or in a CPE attendance record form. Either or both of these documents should be kept for an appropriate period to enable regular periodic reporting to jurisdictional board(s) and to professional organizations requiring such reports. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 2
  • 3. Gary Zeune CPA Gary Zeune CPA has 40+ years in public accounting, corporate finance, investment banking and had been teaching CPAs full time since 1987. He also has the only speakers bureau in the U.S. for white collar criminals. The Pros & The Cons has been profiled in NY Times, WSJ, LA Times, Forbes and numerous other publications. Since 1987 more than 20,000 professionals have attended his classes on fraud, ethics and corporate strategy. He writes extensively and has had more than 20 articles published in national magazines and journals. www.TheProsAndTheCons.com gzfraud@TheProsAndTheCons.com © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 3
  • 4. Tom Hughes Speaker On Financial Crime, Ministry And Professional Responsibility ACFE National Conference presentation: How A Fraudster's First Stolen Dollar Turned Into Much More Tom has spoken at the ACFE National Convention and more than 50 government agencies, colleges and universities, and CPA firms. In addition he partnered with the Vermont State Auditor’s Office, FBI and/or State Police to train many local governments. tom@hireathief.com http://hireathief.com or www.fraudspeaker.net Watch Fraudsters Tom Hughes and Diann Cattani talk about trust 4© 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE
  • 5. The hardest dollar to steal – – is the very first one. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 5
  • 6. You didn’t commit the crime, so… © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 6
  • 7. Whatever you do, don’t tell your target how it was done! If you get it wrong, your target knows you’re guessing! © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 7
  • 8. No, you will not see it coming. © 2020 Thomas Hughes + Gary Zeune If you could, you would not have hired me. 8
  • 9. I can’t steal from you – - until you trust me. © 2020 Thomas Hughes + Gary Zeune 9
  • 10. Money that’s never stolen – - never has to be recovered. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 10
  • 11. Please: Read your mail. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 11
  • 12. Stop a thief with a Post-it® note. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 12
  • 13. Would I hire me? © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 13
  • 14. Do I have to pay taxes on this? © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 14
  • 15. Give me six weeks. Maybe less. More to the point: Two bank statements. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 15
  • 16. Let me introduce myself: © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 16
  • 17. Let me introduce myself: © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 17
  • 18. Opportunity © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE Source: The Fraud Triangle | ACFE 18
  • 19. Opportunity Capability © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE Adapted from The Fraud Diamond, CPA Journal 19
  • 20. Stealing turned me into a thief. © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 20
  • 21. A Few Red Flags • Unsustainable lifestyle outside of work • Eager for more responsibility, but… • Won’t take a promotion • Unfaithfulness in small matters • Failing to share over information • Debt collectors or process servers © 2020 THOMAS HUGHES + GARY ZEUNE 21