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5 Hanover Square New York, NY 10004
       www.jonesjonesllc.com
“I HATE TO LOSE,
    SO SHOULD
      YOU!”
          
         William S. Jones Esq.
              Jones Jones
          5 Hanover Square
         New York, NY 10004
Jones Jones
       Workers Compensation  No-Fault     Liability

   Charles Jones became senior partner 1945
   William Jones became senior partner 1998
   Counsel to the New York Claim Association
   Past President of the Workers Compensation Bar
    Association
   20 years experience defending employers and
    carriers
   Clients: City of New York; New York Transit;
    Costco; Best Buy; Anheuser Bush; New York
    University; Saks; Burger King…..
I Want to be a Winner!

Winners Create a State of Mind
   Are more prepared than anyone else
   Know how to apply the facts to the law
   There because they know they can win

Fear of loosing is the best motivator to bring 
  your opponent to the negotiating table
I Want to be a Winner!
               Fear of losing

   Ridicule from peers
   Condemnation from Judge
   Client Dissatisfaction
   Loss of fee
I Want to be a Winner!

   Winners treat their opponents with respect
   Bullies shut down any chance for
    meaningful communication with their
    opponent
   Communication is paramount


       Why is communication important?
I Want to be a winner!
    Communication opens the door to 
    Communication
     additional methods for winning
   Education: Edify your opponent on why he
    will loose
   Persuasion: convince him that a de
    minimums settlement is in order
   Manipulation: position his client against him
    or visa versa to weaken their resolve
   In Sum, control the litigation

      What single factor allows one to control 
                    the litigation
I Want to be a Winner!

    Knowledge = Power to Control 
           the litigation
   Facts
   Law
   Communication


    Litigation is the byproduct of a lack of 
                   Knowledge
Why should you hate to lose?

   Financial: Self-insured; Large deductible
   Experience Rating: Cost; Ability to obtain
    insurance
   Employee Validation: Injury; Disability
   Employer Relations: Indifferent, Unfair
   New Claims: Open the flood gate
Why do we Lose?
   Statue: A presumption of compensability
   Judge: Interpretation of social legislation
   Employer: Poor procedures; Poor records;
    Poor communication
   Examiner: Improperly trained; Over
    worked; Afraid to accept or settle
   Vendors: Ineffectual; Don’t know how to
    testify; Don’t know the law
What Can You Do?

   Prevent the accident
   Create Detailed Accident Procedures
   Keep Detailed Records
   Communicate with your Examiner
   Communicate with your Vendor
   Communicate with your Attorney
What Can You Do?

          Prevent the Accident
   Safety Program: Dual benefit
   Help: Brokers; Insurance companies;
    Industry
   Use you software: look for the cause
   Rewards and Incentives
   Share the Responsibility of the Loss
What Can You Do?

    Detailed Accident Procedures 
   Notice: 24 hours; Supervisor
   Report: Detailed (Pre Attorney)
   Investigation: Surveillance Tapes
   Witness: Written Statement
   Verification: Medical Report
   Notification: Examiner
What Can You Do?

       Detailed Record Keeping
   Loss time
   Earnings
   Payments
   Prior Accidents
   Offers of Light Duty
What Can You Do?

     Communicate with your Examiner
   Best Practices vs. Results Driven
   Educate
   File Reviews
   Team Approach
   Best Fit for You
What Can You Do?

Communicate with Your Vendor
   Educate
   Exchange Information
   Give Direction
   Team Approach
   Best Fit for You
What Can You Do?

        Communicate with your 
             Attorney
   Educate
   Exchange Information
   Identify Witnesses
   Participate With Witness Preparation
   Team Approach
   Best Fit for You
Just as It is said that  genius  is more  
perspiration than inspiration; Winning is 
  more preparation than performance.



         Be Prepared
    I Want to be a Winner!
Quiz

   Question: What's the difference between
    a bankrupt attorney and a pigeon?


   Answer: The pigeon can still make a
    deposit on a Mercedes.
5 Hanover Square New York, NY 10004
       www.jonesjonesllc.com

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  • 1. 5 Hanover Square New York, NY 10004 www.jonesjonesllc.com
  • 2. “I HATE TO LOSE, SO SHOULD YOU!”   William S. Jones Esq. Jones Jones 5 Hanover Square New York, NY 10004
  • 3. Jones Jones Workers Compensation  No-Fault     Liability  Charles Jones became senior partner 1945  William Jones became senior partner 1998  Counsel to the New York Claim Association  Past President of the Workers Compensation Bar Association  20 years experience defending employers and carriers  Clients: City of New York; New York Transit; Costco; Best Buy; Anheuser Bush; New York University; Saks; Burger King…..
  • 4. I Want to be a Winner! Winners Create a State of Mind  Are more prepared than anyone else  Know how to apply the facts to the law  There because they know they can win Fear of loosing is the best motivator to bring  your opponent to the negotiating table
  • 5. I Want to be a Winner! Fear of losing  Ridicule from peers  Condemnation from Judge  Client Dissatisfaction  Loss of fee
  • 6. I Want to be a Winner!  Winners treat their opponents with respect  Bullies shut down any chance for meaningful communication with their opponent  Communication is paramount Why is communication important?
  • 7. I Want to be a winner! Communication opens the door to  Communication additional methods for winning  Education: Edify your opponent on why he will loose  Persuasion: convince him that a de minimums settlement is in order  Manipulation: position his client against him or visa versa to weaken their resolve  In Sum, control the litigation What single factor allows one to control  the litigation
  • 8. I Want to be a Winner! Knowledge = Power to Control  the litigation  Facts  Law  Communication Litigation is the byproduct of a lack of  Knowledge
  • 9. Why should you hate to lose?  Financial: Self-insured; Large deductible  Experience Rating: Cost; Ability to obtain insurance  Employee Validation: Injury; Disability  Employer Relations: Indifferent, Unfair  New Claims: Open the flood gate
  • 10. Why do we Lose?  Statue: A presumption of compensability  Judge: Interpretation of social legislation  Employer: Poor procedures; Poor records; Poor communication  Examiner: Improperly trained; Over worked; Afraid to accept or settle  Vendors: Ineffectual; Don’t know how to testify; Don’t know the law
  • 11. What Can You Do?  Prevent the accident  Create Detailed Accident Procedures  Keep Detailed Records  Communicate with your Examiner  Communicate with your Vendor  Communicate with your Attorney
  • 12. What Can You Do? Prevent the Accident  Safety Program: Dual benefit  Help: Brokers; Insurance companies; Industry  Use you software: look for the cause  Rewards and Incentives  Share the Responsibility of the Loss
  • 13. What Can You Do? Detailed Accident Procedures   Notice: 24 hours; Supervisor  Report: Detailed (Pre Attorney)  Investigation: Surveillance Tapes  Witness: Written Statement  Verification: Medical Report  Notification: Examiner
  • 14. What Can You Do? Detailed Record Keeping  Loss time  Earnings  Payments  Prior Accidents  Offers of Light Duty
  • 15. What Can You Do? Communicate with your Examiner  Best Practices vs. Results Driven  Educate  File Reviews  Team Approach  Best Fit for You
  • 16. What Can You Do? Communicate with Your Vendor  Educate  Exchange Information  Give Direction  Team Approach  Best Fit for You
  • 17. What Can You Do? Communicate with your  Attorney  Educate  Exchange Information  Identify Witnesses  Participate With Witness Preparation  Team Approach  Best Fit for You
  • 19. Quiz  Question: What's the difference between a bankrupt attorney and a pigeon?  Answer: The pigeon can still make a deposit on a Mercedes.
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  • 21. 5 Hanover Square New York, NY 10004 www.jonesjonesllc.com

Editor's Notes

  1. How many personal injury attorneys does it take to change a light bulb? Three--one to turn the bulb, one to shake him off the ladder, and the third to sue the ladder company. What's the difference between a bankrupt attorney and a pigeon? The pigeon can still make a deposit on a Mercedes.   A dog ran into a butcher shop and grabbed a roast off the counter. Fortunately, the butcher recognized the dog as belonging to a neighbor of his. The neighbor happened to be a lawyer. Incensed at the theft, the butcher called up his neighbor and said, "Hey, if your dog stole a roast from my butcher shop, would you be liable for the cost of the meat?" The lawyer replied, "Of course, how much was the roast?" "$7.98." A few days later the butcher received a check in the mail for $7.98. Attached to it was an invoice that read: Legal Consultation Service: $150. A lawyer was driving his big BMW down the highway, singing to himself, "I love my BMW, I love my BMW." Focusing on his car, not his driving, he smashed into a tree. He miraculously survived, but his car was totaled. "My BMW! My BMW!" he sobbed. A good Samaritan drove by and cried out, "Sir, sir, you're bleeding! And my god, your left arm is gone!" The lawyer, horrified, screamed "My Rolex! My Rolex!"