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Atheism revisited

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Why edited?
   I discovered a                            I’ve put my slides
    presentation called                        among the original
    ” A Shattered                              slides, and I’ve put
    Visage : The Real                          a red cross in the
    Face of Atheism”                           upper right corner
   It was so full of                          on my slides
    errors that I just                        The original slides
    couldn’t let them                          are those without
    pass uncorrected                           this cross

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A Shattered Visage :
 The Real Face of
     Atheism
Noam
                       Chomsky



     Political Activist
December 7, 1928 – present date
Karl
                      Heinrich
                       Marx


Communist and Revolutionary
 May 5, 1818 – March 14, 1883
Clinton
                             Richard
                             Dawkins

Evolutionary Biologist – To present date
            26 March 1941
Angelina
                         Jolie
                        Voight


      American Actress
June 4, 1975 – To Present Date
What do these people in
      common?




     ATHEISTS
What’s the point in mentioning these
     people? Here are some more…
   Atheists:                   Catholics:
    • Warren Buffet and          • Adolf Hitler, dictator
      Bill Gates,                • Father Donald
      philantropists,              Roemer of the
      donating $31 billion         Archdiocese of Los
      to charity                   Angeles, convicted
                                   pedophile
                                Baptist:
                                 • Fred Phelps, pastor
                                   of Westboro Baptist
                                   Church
What is Atheism?
   The term atheism originated from the
    Greek ἄ θεος (atheos), meaning
    "without gods“.
   It is commonly defined as the position
    that there is no God.
   It is the denial of existence of God
What is Atheism?
   The term atheism originated from the Greek
    ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without gods“. Correct

   It is commonly defined as the position that there
    is no God. Correct

   It is the denial of existence of God Wrong. It is
    sceptisism towards anything unprobable and
    unproven. The existence of God is not made
    probable, the same way The flying spaghetti
    monster isn’t made probable.
Gherman Stepanovich Titov




 the second man to orbit the Earth
       11.09.1935 – 20.09.2000
   He said while coming back, “I went to
    space and I did not see God.”

   Somebody from the audience quipped,
    “If he had stepped out of his space suit,
    he would have.”
What does the Bible says
          about atheism?


   The fool has said in his heart,
           “There is no God.”
                       Psalm 14: 1, 53:1
The bible is not a credible
         source of information
   The bible has been written by hundreds of
    people, many of whom have altered the text and
    the meaning.
   Some parts was written hundreds of years after
    the incidents they are meant to describe.
   Archaeology doesn't support any literal readings
    of the bible. It is not a historically correct and
    credible source in this respect.
   We have no other source of god’s words other
    than the bible.
   Therefore it cannot be used outside an enclosed
    context, but only as a (more or less) fictional
    work.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   What are they affirming in the place of
    God?
   There is no value if atheism is true.
   There is no reference point.
   We are the product of primordial slime.
   Time + matter + chance + collection of
    atoms. That is human beings.
Atheists are not fools
   What are atheists affirming in the place of god?
    Nothing. God is no necessary part of humanity.
   The assumption that “there is no value if atheism
    is true” is nonsense. Atheism does not equal
    nihilsm. Atheism can – and does – embrace
    humanistic values, and some values are even
    shared with christianity.
   “There is no reference point.” Wrong. The concept
    of humanistic ethics is one such, better known as
    humanism.
   We are the product of primordial slime. Correct.
    Exactly as a human being is the product of sperm
    and an egg.
More on atheistic ethics
   A god is no necessity for        Atheists do good things
    being good.                       because the action itself –
   ”Good” can be the absence         being good - is valuable
    of something negative, like       because of the result, like
    hurting someone, or the           gratifying someone else.
    presence of something
    positive, like giving a          Christians do good things
    homeless money.                   to achieve a personal goal,
   These are things most of          namely being allowed into
    us learn during upbringing,       an imaginary heaven. This
    where a god has no role.          is therefore a selfish
                                      action, not a generous
                                      action.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   We are the product of evolution.
   We are doomed to extinction. There is no
    future. There is no purpose in our life.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   We are the product of evolution.
   We are doomed to extinction. There is no
    future. There is no purpose in our life.
    1. Evolution is the best documented theory for explaining how
       life has evolved. One busy week for a ”god” is not an
       eaually probable theory, since no evidence support that
       theory.
    2. Research indicates that in one billion years, the sun will
       make earth inhabitable. Yes, we are doomed to extinction.
    3. This does not mean there is no purpose in human life. Life
       itself is one indeed one good purpose, among others.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   They reduces their own worth to
    nothing.

   They make their own laws.

   It is the survival of the fittest.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   They reduces their own worth to
    nothing.

         Wrong. Atheists respect human beings, and
   They make their own laws.
         respect each other as equally valuable. This
         also includes themselves.

         Christians, on the other hand, reduce their
   It is the survival of the fittest.
         own value to being an instrument of an
         imaginary god. And some even treat people
         with other beliefs as secondary to themselves.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   They reduces their own worth to
    nothing.

   They make their own laws.
                    This is utter nonsense, and it has nothing
                    to do with reality.
   It is the survival of the fittest.
Are they fools? If so, why?
   They reduces their own worth to
    nothing.theory of evolution is confused with
      This is a gross misunderstanding, where a
      biological
      the fabric of social life of mankind.


   They make their own laws.

   It is the survival of the fittest.
The Bible
    The fool has said in his heart, “There is no
     God.” They are corrupt.
    They have done abominable works. There is
     none who does good.
    The Lord looks down from heaven upon the
     children of men. To see if there are any who
     understand who seek God
                                 Psalm 14:1,2
As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable
source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise
description of historical facts.
The Bible
   They have all turned aside. They have
    together become corrupt. There is none
    who does good. No, not one.
                                Psalm 14:3
           As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation
           of a highly questionable source, which in
           reality should be valued more as a novel, than
           as a precise description of historical facts.
An age old problem
   Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of
    man was great in the earth, and that every
    intent of the thoughts of his heart was only
    evil continually.
                                     Genesis 6:5
                   As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation
                   of a highly questionable source, which in
                   reality should be valued more as a novel, than
                   as a precise description of historical facts.
New means of escape
   Many philosophers tried to do away with
    the need for God like
                   Democritus
                    Epicurus
   They failed.
   Atheism depends heavily on the new
    mantra, the evolution theory.
New means of escape
   Many philosophers tried to do away with
    the need for God like
                              Democritus
                                Epicurus
 They failed.
There has been a number of more recent philosphers who should be
 Atheism            depends heavily on the new
included here. (And maybe even the inquisituons should be mentioned?)
Wikipedia has a long list:
    mantra, the evolution theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_and_agnostic_philosophers

And the claim of ”failure” is, again, nonsense. God cannot be proven, and
that is a theological fact that even most churches admit.
New means of escape
Atheism does not depend on evolution theory. Evolution theory is the best
theory we know of for explaining how life evolved. Evolution theory is not
    Many philosophers tried to do away with
contradictory to the excistence of a god, and is therefore also embraced by a
lot of priests, bishops, cardinals and even recent popes.
     the need for God like
Evolution theory is contradictory to Genesis, a description from a questionable
                                Democritus
source. Genesis was written thousands of years after it supposedly happened.


                                  Epicurus
All serious scientists aggree on the fact that earth is about 4.5 billion years old,
and that the universe is about 13.4 billion years old. Some of these scientists
call themselves christian.
  They failed.

  Atheism              depends heavily on the new
     mantra, the evolution theory.
Is evolution true?

   There are gaps in
    the     theory     of
    evolution.
   There     are many
    holes in this theory.
Correct. There are gaps in the theory of evolution. However, none of these gaps
undermine the theory’s ability to explain how life evolved. Scientific method
ensure that our understanding is challenged, and that our knowledge develops.

The religious alternative is, by comparison, only supported by personal belief in
an imaginary ”divine being”, and unsupported by any scientific evidence.
The next few slides are meaningless, and I will not comment on them.




  A Hole so big that it will swallow
      an entire elephant herd
Sisyphus
         A mythological
          Greek person.
         Once he angered
          mythological Greek
          gods.
         Hence     he   was
          punished.
Sisyphus
        He has to roll up
         a big stone to the
         top       of    the
         mountain.
        Roll it down.
         Then roll it up.
         Roll it down.
        For eternity.
Atheists – Modern day Sisyphus
 There is no mind to look back to for his
  origin,
   There is no law to turn to for
  guidance,
 There is no meaning to cling to for life

  and
 There is no hope for future.
Atheists – Modern day Sisyphus

 It has the stare of death,
 looking into the barren desert

  of emptiness
 and hopelessness.
A result of rejecting God.
   In the U.S.A, they don’t say the Lord’s
    prayer anymore in school.

   They don’t teach the Bible in school
    anymore.

   Instead, they teach all other possible things.
A result of rejecting God.
We In thetheU.S.A, thereby finding cures for serious diseases, for
us understand     world, and
                              they don’t say the Lord’s
 should be glad schools ”teach all other possible things”. These things helps

   prayer anymore in school.
instance. (As most of us know: Not one person in the history of mankind has
ever been healed by a ”divine being”. There have been many claims of such
miracles, but none has been proven scientifically.)


   They don’t teach the Bible in school
    anymore.

   Instead, they teach all other possible things.
A result of rejecting God.
     One man is even trying to remove “IN GOD
      WE TRUST” from American dollar.


Was put on the dollar bill in
         1956…
A result of rejecting God.
                                                    Virginia Tech
                                                     Massacre
                                                    Cho Seung Hui
                                                    April 16, 2007




Guman Cho was (probably) an atheist, but did not massacre people because of
this. He killed people because of insanity. Allegedly, it was a reaction also to his
parents’ strong religious beliefs. Their belief is, of course, in no way to blame
for the tragedy.
A result of rejecting God.
                                Columbine
                                 School Massacre
                                April 20, 1999
                                More than 100
                                 shootings out of
                                 which        75%
                                 occurred in the
                                 U.S.A


        These killers where not atheists.
A result of worshiping god
                Anders Behring
                 Breivik, killed 77
                 people on july 11th
                 2011
                Christian,
                 islamophobic
                Religious belief was
                 probably part of
                 the reason for his
                 insane act
A result of rejecting God.



                           A result of rejecting God.




   They are crying in the darkness with
    no one to look for help.
               This is just meaningless….?
Atheists – On borrowed time
                 They are trying to
                  give meaning to life, a
                  purpose to life now
                  stealing from Judeo –
                  Christian tradition.



         This is just meaningless….?
The Problem…
   Atheists seem ready to believe anything
    except God…. The Hindu dated 10.01.06
    pp-11
The Problem…
     Atheists seem ready to believe anything
      except God…. The Hindu dated 10.01.06
      pp-11
Wrong. Belief is not the right approach to enhance our understanding of the world.
Scientific method and scepticism are two more suitable approaches to developing
actual knowledge.

Belief is what you have to depend on when it comes to imaginary metaphysical
concepts. Like a god.
The Problem…
   In       a       NEW
    SCIENTIST India
    Edition article, the
    scientists are now
    theorizing “how our
    brain      artificially
    creates God. New
    Scientist 01.03.10
It is difficult to understand how knowledge and understanding can be a
problem. Unless, of course, you base your life on an old book of questionable
historical value, a book which find close to no support in science.
Hence only God said…..
   Surely you have turned things around!
    Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay, for
    shall the things made say of him who made
    it, “He did not make me’? Or shall the
    things formed say of Him who formed it,
    “He has no understanding?”
                                    Isaiah 29:16
                   As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation
                   of a highly questionable source, which in
                   reality should be valued more as a novel, than
                   as a precise description of historical facts.
God is not far from anyone
   ….so that they should seek the Lord, in the
    hope that they might grope for Him and
    find Him, though He is not far from each
    one of us.
                                 Acts 17:27
                   As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation
                   of a highly questionable source, which in
                   reality should be valued more as a novel, than
                   as a precise description of historical facts.
A solution for Karunyans
   As Karunyans, let us diligently seek God,
    the Saviour daily.
   If our friends are having negative ideas, let
    us tell them the truth.
   And hope that he/she finds the evidence for
    the existence of our Lord and Saviour Jesus
    Christ.
Not believing in an imaginary god is hardly a ”negative idea”. It has more
to do with seeking actual knowledge.

And ”evidence” is not the correct concept, when dealing with beliefs.
Search
for God
 when
there is
  still
  time
Acknowledgements
   A Shattered Visage : The Real Face of
    Atheism, Ravi Zacharias

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Atheism revisited

  • 2. Why edited?  I discovered a  I’ve put my slides presentation called among the original ” A Shattered slides, and I’ve put Visage : The Real a red cross in the Face of Atheism” upper right corner  It was so full of on my slides errors that I just  The original slides couldn’t let them are those without pass uncorrected this cross See original presentation here: http://www.slideshare.net/Samkjohn/atheism-6026405
  • 3. A Shattered Visage : The Real Face of Atheism
  • 4. Noam Chomsky Political Activist December 7, 1928 – present date
  • 5. Karl Heinrich Marx Communist and Revolutionary May 5, 1818 – March 14, 1883
  • 6. Clinton Richard Dawkins Evolutionary Biologist – To present date 26 March 1941
  • 7. Angelina Jolie Voight American Actress June 4, 1975 – To Present Date
  • 8. What do these people in common? ATHEISTS
  • 9. What’s the point in mentioning these people? Here are some more…  Atheists:  Catholics: • Warren Buffet and • Adolf Hitler, dictator Bill Gates, • Father Donald philantropists, Roemer of the donating $31 billion Archdiocese of Los to charity Angeles, convicted pedophile  Baptist: • Fred Phelps, pastor of Westboro Baptist Church
  • 10. What is Atheism?  The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄ θεος (atheos), meaning "without gods“.  It is commonly defined as the position that there is no God.  It is the denial of existence of God
  • 11. What is Atheism?  The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without gods“. Correct  It is commonly defined as the position that there is no God. Correct  It is the denial of existence of God Wrong. It is sceptisism towards anything unprobable and unproven. The existence of God is not made probable, the same way The flying spaghetti monster isn’t made probable.
  • 12. Gherman Stepanovich Titov the second man to orbit the Earth 11.09.1935 – 20.09.2000
  • 13. He said while coming back, “I went to space and I did not see God.”  Somebody from the audience quipped, “If he had stepped out of his space suit, he would have.”
  • 14. What does the Bible says about atheism?  The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” Psalm 14: 1, 53:1
  • 15. The bible is not a credible source of information  The bible has been written by hundreds of people, many of whom have altered the text and the meaning.  Some parts was written hundreds of years after the incidents they are meant to describe.  Archaeology doesn't support any literal readings of the bible. It is not a historically correct and credible source in this respect.  We have no other source of god’s words other than the bible.  Therefore it cannot be used outside an enclosed context, but only as a (more or less) fictional work.
  • 16. Are they fools? If so, why?  What are they affirming in the place of God?  There is no value if atheism is true.  There is no reference point.  We are the product of primordial slime.  Time + matter + chance + collection of atoms. That is human beings.
  • 17. Atheists are not fools  What are atheists affirming in the place of god? Nothing. God is no necessary part of humanity.  The assumption that “there is no value if atheism is true” is nonsense. Atheism does not equal nihilsm. Atheism can – and does – embrace humanistic values, and some values are even shared with christianity.  “There is no reference point.” Wrong. The concept of humanistic ethics is one such, better known as humanism.  We are the product of primordial slime. Correct. Exactly as a human being is the product of sperm and an egg.
  • 18. More on atheistic ethics  A god is no necessity for  Atheists do good things being good. because the action itself –  ”Good” can be the absence being good - is valuable of something negative, like because of the result, like hurting someone, or the gratifying someone else. presence of something positive, like giving a  Christians do good things homeless money. to achieve a personal goal,  These are things most of namely being allowed into us learn during upbringing, an imaginary heaven. This where a god has no role. is therefore a selfish action, not a generous action.
  • 19. Are they fools? If so, why?  We are the product of evolution.  We are doomed to extinction. There is no future. There is no purpose in our life.
  • 20. Are they fools? If so, why?  We are the product of evolution.  We are doomed to extinction. There is no future. There is no purpose in our life. 1. Evolution is the best documented theory for explaining how life has evolved. One busy week for a ”god” is not an eaually probable theory, since no evidence support that theory. 2. Research indicates that in one billion years, the sun will make earth inhabitable. Yes, we are doomed to extinction. 3. This does not mean there is no purpose in human life. Life itself is one indeed one good purpose, among others.
  • 21. Are they fools? If so, why?  They reduces their own worth to nothing.  They make their own laws.  It is the survival of the fittest.
  • 22. Are they fools? If so, why?  They reduces their own worth to nothing. Wrong. Atheists respect human beings, and  They make their own laws. respect each other as equally valuable. This also includes themselves. Christians, on the other hand, reduce their  It is the survival of the fittest. own value to being an instrument of an imaginary god. And some even treat people with other beliefs as secondary to themselves.
  • 23. Are they fools? If so, why?  They reduces their own worth to nothing.  They make their own laws. This is utter nonsense, and it has nothing to do with reality.  It is the survival of the fittest.
  • 24. Are they fools? If so, why?  They reduces their own worth to nothing.theory of evolution is confused with This is a gross misunderstanding, where a biological the fabric of social life of mankind.  They make their own laws.  It is the survival of the fittest.
  • 25. The Bible  The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt.  They have done abominable works. There is none who does good.  The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men. To see if there are any who understand who seek God Psalm 14:1,2 As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise description of historical facts.
  • 26. The Bible  They have all turned aside. They have together become corrupt. There is none who does good. No, not one. Psalm 14:3 As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise description of historical facts.
  • 27. An age old problem  Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. Genesis 6:5 As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise description of historical facts.
  • 28. New means of escape  Many philosophers tried to do away with the need for God like Democritus Epicurus  They failed.  Atheism depends heavily on the new mantra, the evolution theory.
  • 29. New means of escape  Many philosophers tried to do away with the need for God like Democritus Epicurus  They failed. There has been a number of more recent philosphers who should be  Atheism depends heavily on the new included here. (And maybe even the inquisituons should be mentioned?) Wikipedia has a long list: mantra, the evolution theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheist_and_agnostic_philosophers And the claim of ”failure” is, again, nonsense. God cannot be proven, and that is a theological fact that even most churches admit.
  • 30. New means of escape Atheism does not depend on evolution theory. Evolution theory is the best theory we know of for explaining how life evolved. Evolution theory is not  Many philosophers tried to do away with contradictory to the excistence of a god, and is therefore also embraced by a lot of priests, bishops, cardinals and even recent popes. the need for God like Evolution theory is contradictory to Genesis, a description from a questionable Democritus source. Genesis was written thousands of years after it supposedly happened. Epicurus All serious scientists aggree on the fact that earth is about 4.5 billion years old, and that the universe is about 13.4 billion years old. Some of these scientists call themselves christian.  They failed.  Atheism depends heavily on the new mantra, the evolution theory.
  • 31. Is evolution true?  There are gaps in the theory of evolution.  There are many holes in this theory. Correct. There are gaps in the theory of evolution. However, none of these gaps undermine the theory’s ability to explain how life evolved. Scientific method ensure that our understanding is challenged, and that our knowledge develops. The religious alternative is, by comparison, only supported by personal belief in an imaginary ”divine being”, and unsupported by any scientific evidence.
  • 32. The next few slides are meaningless, and I will not comment on them. A Hole so big that it will swallow an entire elephant herd
  • 33. Sisyphus  A mythological Greek person.  Once he angered mythological Greek gods.  Hence he was punished.
  • 34. Sisyphus  He has to roll up a big stone to the top of the mountain.  Roll it down.  Then roll it up.  Roll it down.  For eternity.
  • 35. Atheists – Modern day Sisyphus  There is no mind to look back to for his origin,  There is no law to turn to for guidance,  There is no meaning to cling to for life and  There is no hope for future.
  • 36. Atheists – Modern day Sisyphus  It has the stare of death,  looking into the barren desert of emptiness  and hopelessness.
  • 37. A result of rejecting God.  In the U.S.A, they don’t say the Lord’s prayer anymore in school.  They don’t teach the Bible in school anymore.  Instead, they teach all other possible things.
  • 38. A result of rejecting God. We In thetheU.S.A, thereby finding cures for serious diseases, for us understand world, and they don’t say the Lord’s  should be glad schools ”teach all other possible things”. These things helps prayer anymore in school. instance. (As most of us know: Not one person in the history of mankind has ever been healed by a ”divine being”. There have been many claims of such miracles, but none has been proven scientifically.)  They don’t teach the Bible in school anymore.  Instead, they teach all other possible things.
  • 39. A result of rejecting God.  One man is even trying to remove “IN GOD WE TRUST” from American dollar. Was put on the dollar bill in 1956…
  • 40. A result of rejecting God.  Virginia Tech Massacre  Cho Seung Hui  April 16, 2007 Guman Cho was (probably) an atheist, but did not massacre people because of this. He killed people because of insanity. Allegedly, it was a reaction also to his parents’ strong religious beliefs. Their belief is, of course, in no way to blame for the tragedy.
  • 41. A result of rejecting God.  Columbine School Massacre  April 20, 1999  More than 100 shootings out of which 75% occurred in the U.S.A These killers where not atheists.
  • 42. A result of worshiping god  Anders Behring Breivik, killed 77 people on july 11th 2011  Christian, islamophobic  Religious belief was probably part of the reason for his insane act
  • 43. A result of rejecting God. A result of rejecting God.  They are crying in the darkness with no one to look for help. This is just meaningless….?
  • 44. Atheists – On borrowed time  They are trying to give meaning to life, a purpose to life now stealing from Judeo – Christian tradition. This is just meaningless….?
  • 45. The Problem…  Atheists seem ready to believe anything except God…. The Hindu dated 10.01.06 pp-11
  • 46. The Problem…  Atheists seem ready to believe anything except God…. The Hindu dated 10.01.06 pp-11 Wrong. Belief is not the right approach to enhance our understanding of the world. Scientific method and scepticism are two more suitable approaches to developing actual knowledge. Belief is what you have to depend on when it comes to imaginary metaphysical concepts. Like a god.
  • 47. The Problem…  In a NEW SCIENTIST India Edition article, the scientists are now theorizing “how our brain artificially creates God. New Scientist 01.03.10 It is difficult to understand how knowledge and understanding can be a problem. Unless, of course, you base your life on an old book of questionable historical value, a book which find close to no support in science.
  • 48. Hence only God said…..  Surely you have turned things around! Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay, for shall the things made say of him who made it, “He did not make me’? Or shall the things formed say of Him who formed it, “He has no understanding?” Isaiah 29:16 As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise description of historical facts.
  • 49. God is not far from anyone  ….so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. Acts 17:27 As stated earlier: This is a literal interpretation of a highly questionable source, which in reality should be valued more as a novel, than as a precise description of historical facts.
  • 50. A solution for Karunyans  As Karunyans, let us diligently seek God, the Saviour daily.  If our friends are having negative ideas, let us tell them the truth.  And hope that he/she finds the evidence for the existence of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Not believing in an imaginary god is hardly a ”negative idea”. It has more to do with seeking actual knowledge. And ”evidence” is not the correct concept, when dealing with beliefs.
  • 51. Search for God when there is still time
  • 52. Acknowledgements  A Shattered Visage : The Real Face of Atheism, Ravi Zacharias