Extremely Limited Scope & Influence
Everybody in the World
*not pretending to be to scale
EBCLA
Not Primarily Talking About Strangers
Phil Susan Paul Kirby ?
Mike Grace Harry ? Eric
Gio Andy ? Susan ?
? ? ? ? ?
Melvin
?
?
? ? ?? ?
Christ’s Unchanging Hope for Us
Pseudo-
Community
Light &
Polite
Chaos
Anxious &
Impatient
Emptying
Quiet &
Listening
Kingdom-
Community
Mutually
Submitting
Christ’s Unchanging Hope for Us
Pseudo-
Community
Avoid divisive
issues
Chaos
EBCLA &
Christian Gays
Emptying
CDP
Kingdom-
Community
Embodiment of
Jesus’ Love
Psa 46:10
“Be still and know that
I Am God.”
The Next Four Weeks
July 21
SIN
Conservative,
caring pastor
July 28
HOLINESS
Two PK’s who
are Christian
and gay
Aug 4
CHURCH
Former EBCLA
pastor, now out
Aug 11
LOVE
Conservative
parents who love
adult gay son
During CLASS this fall, we will study and discuss more gay-specific passages and
related issues. Vital that we begin with more fundamental truths of our faith.
All Rats,
No Squirrels
Homosexuals and Other Sinners
The Bible as a whole doesn’t say
much about homosexuality.
But what it does say doesn’t leave
any wiggle room.
abhorrentLeviticus 2013 When a man has sexual intercourse with
another man as with a woman, both men are doing something
disgusting and must be put to death.They deserve to die.
detestable
abomination
Land
Lev 1927 Never shave the hair on your foreheads, and never cut
the edges of your beard. 28 Never slash your body to mourn the
dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the Lord.
Never
Never
Lev 1919 Never wear clothes made from two kinds of material.
Lev 1926 Never eat any meat with blood still in it.
Lev 1933 Never mistreat a foreigner living in your land.
34 Foreigners living among you will be like your own people. Love
them as you love yourself, because you were foreigners living in
Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
Deuteronomy 143 “Never eat anything
that is disgusting to the Lord.”
abhorrent
detestable
abomination
Homosexuality in New Testament
Rom 1:18-27 1 Cor 6:9-10 1 Tim 1:8-11 Jude 7
Romans 118 God’s anger is revealed from heaven against every
ungodly and immoral thing people do as they try to suppress the truth
by their immoral living. 19 What can be known about God is clear to
them because he has made it clear to them. 20 From the creation of the
world, God’s invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature, have
been clearly observed in what he made.As a result, people have no
excuse. 21 They knew God but did not praise and thank him for being
God. Instead, their thoughts were pointless, and their misguided minds
were plunged into darkness. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became
fools. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for statues
that looked like mortal humans, birds, animals, and snakes.
Romans 124 For this reason God allowed their lusts to control
them.As a result, they dishonor their bodies by sexual perversion with
each other. 25 These people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So
they have become ungodly and serve what is created rather than the
Creator, who is blessed forever.Amen!
26 For this reason God allowed their shameful passions to control
them.Their women have exchanged natural sexual relations for
unnatural ones. 27 Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual
relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit
indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the
punishment they deserve for their perversion.
“In other words, in Romans 1 homosexuality is depicted
not as a sin awaiting future wrath but as a manifestation
of God’s present-day wrath against an idolatrous world.”
J.R. Daniel Kirk, Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul? Baker Academic, 2011 (176)
God revealed how a
God-designed life
was to be lived
Sinful humans
rejected God’s
perfect design and
order, inverting it
instead
God gave them over
to their idolatry
As people strayed
farther from God
and God’s design,
one outcome was
homosexual
practices of both
women and men
“That ain’t all...”Romans 128 And because they thought it was worthless to acknowledge God, God
allowed their own immoral minds to control them. So they do these indecent things.
29 Their lives are filled with all kinds of sexual sins, wickedness, and greed.They are
mean.They are filled with envy, murder, quarreling, deceit, and viciousness.They are
gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, haughty, arrogant, and boastful.They think up
new ways to be cruel.They don’t obey their parents, 31 don’t have any sense, don’t
keep promises, and don’t show love to their own families or mercy to others.
32 Although they know God’s judgment that those who do such things deserve to
die, they not only do these things but also approve of others who do them.
These, too, are the outcomes of every sinful human’s
rejection of God’s order of creation.
Romans 21No matter who you are, if you judge
anyone, you have no excuse.When you judge
another person, you condemn yourself, since you,
the judge, do the same things.
Romans 322 There is no
difference between people.
23 Because all people have
sinned, they have fallen short
of God’s glory.
Romans 324 They receive
God’s approval freely by an act
of his kindness through the
price Christ Jesus paid to set
us free from sin.
The Body of Christ
Disenfranchised
Disillusioned
Desperate
Destitute
Discarded
Disturbing
Deranged
Damaged
Disgraced
Despised
Jesus
HH
Jewish Men
Jewish Women
G e n t i l e s
Gentiles
Priests
The Temple
Gentiles

All Rats, No Squirrels

  • 1.
    Extremely Limited Scope& Influence Everybody in the World *not pretending to be to scale EBCLA
  • 2.
    Not Primarily TalkingAbout Strangers Phil Susan Paul Kirby ? Mike Grace Harry ? Eric Gio Andy ? Susan ? ? ? ? ? ? Melvin ? ? ? ? ?? ?
  • 3.
    Christ’s Unchanging Hopefor Us Pseudo- Community Light & Polite Chaos Anxious & Impatient Emptying Quiet & Listening Kingdom- Community Mutually Submitting
  • 4.
    Christ’s Unchanging Hopefor Us Pseudo- Community Avoid divisive issues Chaos EBCLA & Christian Gays Emptying CDP Kingdom- Community Embodiment of Jesus’ Love
  • 5.
    Psa 46:10 “Be stilland know that I Am God.”
  • 6.
    The Next FourWeeks July 21 SIN Conservative, caring pastor July 28 HOLINESS Two PK’s who are Christian and gay Aug 4 CHURCH Former EBCLA pastor, now out Aug 11 LOVE Conservative parents who love adult gay son During CLASS this fall, we will study and discuss more gay-specific passages and related issues. Vital that we begin with more fundamental truths of our faith.
  • 7.
  • 8.
    The Bible asa whole doesn’t say much about homosexuality. But what it does say doesn’t leave any wiggle room.
  • 9.
    abhorrentLeviticus 2013 When aman has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death.They deserve to die. detestable abomination
  • 10.
    Land Lev 1927 Never shavethe hair on your foreheads, and never cut the edges of your beard. 28 Never slash your body to mourn the dead, and never get a tattoo. I am the Lord. Never Never Lev 1919 Never wear clothes made from two kinds of material. Lev 1926 Never eat any meat with blood still in it. Lev 1933 Never mistreat a foreigner living in your land. 34 Foreigners living among you will be like your own people. Love them as you love yourself, because you were foreigners living in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.
  • 11.
    Deuteronomy 143 “Never eatanything that is disgusting to the Lord.” abhorrent detestable abomination
  • 12.
    Homosexuality in NewTestament Rom 1:18-27 1 Cor 6:9-10 1 Tim 1:8-11 Jude 7
  • 13.
    Romans 118 God’s angeris revealed from heaven against every ungodly and immoral thing people do as they try to suppress the truth by their immoral living. 19 What can be known about God is clear to them because he has made it clear to them. 20 From the creation of the world, God’s invisible qualities, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly observed in what he made.As a result, people have no excuse. 21 They knew God but did not praise and thank him for being God. Instead, their thoughts were pointless, and their misguided minds were plunged into darkness. 22 While claiming to be wise, they became fools. 23 They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for statues that looked like mortal humans, birds, animals, and snakes.
  • 14.
    Romans 124 For thisreason God allowed their lusts to control them.As a result, they dishonor their bodies by sexual perversion with each other. 25 These people have exchanged God’s truth for a lie. So they have become ungodly and serve what is created rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.Amen! 26 For this reason God allowed their shameful passions to control them.Their women have exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 Likewise, their men have given up natural sexual relations with women and burn with lust for each other. Men commit indecent acts with men, so they experience among themselves the punishment they deserve for their perversion.
  • 15.
    “In other words,in Romans 1 homosexuality is depicted not as a sin awaiting future wrath but as a manifestation of God’s present-day wrath against an idolatrous world.” J.R. Daniel Kirk, Jesus Have I Loved, But Paul? Baker Academic, 2011 (176) God revealed how a God-designed life was to be lived Sinful humans rejected God’s perfect design and order, inverting it instead God gave them over to their idolatry As people strayed farther from God and God’s design, one outcome was homosexual practices of both women and men
  • 16.
    “That ain’t all...”Romans128 And because they thought it was worthless to acknowledge God, God allowed their own immoral minds to control them. So they do these indecent things. 29 Their lives are filled with all kinds of sexual sins, wickedness, and greed.They are mean.They are filled with envy, murder, quarreling, deceit, and viciousness.They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, haughty, arrogant, and boastful.They think up new ways to be cruel.They don’t obey their parents, 31 don’t have any sense, don’t keep promises, and don’t show love to their own families or mercy to others. 32 Although they know God’s judgment that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do these things but also approve of others who do them. These, too, are the outcomes of every sinful human’s rejection of God’s order of creation.
  • 17.
    Romans 21No matterwho you are, if you judge anyone, you have no excuse.When you judge another person, you condemn yourself, since you, the judge, do the same things.
  • 18.
    Romans 322 Thereis no difference between people. 23 Because all people have sinned, they have fallen short of God’s glory. Romans 324 They receive God’s approval freely by an act of his kindness through the price Christ Jesus paid to set us free from sin.
  • 19.
    The Body ofChrist Disenfranchised Disillusioned Desperate Destitute Discarded Disturbing Deranged Damaged Disgraced Despised Jesus HH Jewish Men Jewish Women G e n t i l e s Gentiles Priests The Temple Gentiles