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Effective Discipline for Children 2-12
           1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   1
                     Children 2-12
Dale Sundermann MSW


   Offutt Family Advocacy
              &
Airman and Family Readiness
Who can use
1-2-3 MAGIC?

* Parents
* Grandparents
* Nannies
* Sitters
* Teachers


   1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   3
             Children 2-12
Part I

Straight Thinking




  1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   4
            Children 2-12
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          Children 2-12
What Is The Problem?
• Kids don’t come with a training manual.
• They are either doing what you don’t want them
  to do.




• Or they are not doing what you do want them to
  do.

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                          Children 2-12
START BEHAVIOR and
  STOP BEHAVIOR
          When you are having
          problems with your kids,
          they are either
        1) doing something you would
           like them to stop

        2) not doing something you
          would like them to start!

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               Children 2-12
For STOP BEHAVIORS
Such As:
 • Arguing
 • Fighting
 • Screaming
 • Tantrums
 • Teasing
 • Whining

 You will use the “Counting” procedure.
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                         Children 2-12
Little Adult Assumption
• Words and reason will not
  always work

• Often lead to the Talk-
  Persuade-Argue-Yell-Hit
  Syndrome

• Think of yourself as a wild
  animal trainer


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                             Children 2-12
The Wild Animal Trainer

Objective:

• Choose a training method
• Repeat it until it works
• If done correctly, you will get results



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                      Children 2-12
The TWO BIGGEST Mistakes
      Parents Make


 Too Much Talking
        &
 Too Much Emotion



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                 Children 2-12
Too Much Talking is a problem
because it either does not work or it takes
                         .
you through the Talk-Persuade-
Argue-Yell-Hit-Syndrome.


Too Much Emotion is a problem
because the child enjoys the power
that comes with getting
a parent upset.


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                          Children 2-12
Too Much Talking Can Be
      Destructive

                                 “When children are
                             little they feel inferior,
                             because they are. This
                             lessness bugs them a
                             lot.”
                             Dr. Thomas Phelan




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Who Is Responsible?




The child is responsible for his own behavior


But too much talking takes the child’s focus
off of good behavior and places it on the
possibility of a good fight!

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                      Children 2-12
Part II

Controlling Obnoxious
      Behavior


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               Children 2-12
The 1-2-3 Method
First, you will use the 1-2-3, or
counting method, to deal with STOP
behaviors.
The following is a list of some typical
STOP behaviors.

Arguing     Fighting Whining
Yelling     Tantrums Etc.

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                     Children 2-12
The 1-2-3 Method
Second, after you hear how to do the 1-2-3,
you are likely to become skeptical.


• You may say “This is too easy.”
• 1-2-3 is simple, but not always easy.
• It is very powerful if you follow the
  “No-Talking, No-Emotion Rules.”




              1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   17
                        Children 2-12
Using The Counting Method
 To Stop Obnoxious Behavior
• Remember: No                    • When the behavior
  Talking and No                    occurs the parent
  Emotion.                          holds up 1 finger
                                    and says,“That’s 1.”

                                  • Parent waits 5
                                    seconds to see if the
                                    behavior continues.

              1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for     18
                        Children 2-12
Using The Counting Method
 To Stop Obnoxious Behavior
• Remember: No Talking • If the behavior
  and No Emotion.        continues, the
                         parent holds up two
                         fingers and says
                         “That’s 2.”

                                  • Parent waits 5
                                    seconds to see if the
                                    behavior continues.
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                        Children 2-12
Using The Counting Method
  To Stop Obnoxious Behavior
• Remember: No                     • If the behavior
  Talking and No                     continues, the
  Emotion.                           parent holds up
                                     three fingers and
                                     says.

                                   • “That’s 3, take 5.”


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                         Children 2-12
The Automatic 3
                                                     Examples
• When the child does
  something very bad                           Hitting
  it becomes an                                Spitting
   “Automatic” 3                          Offensive language
                                               Biting




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                        Children 2-12
The Following Problems Require
  Some Minor Modifications
  Pouting

• Passive behavior designed to
  make a parent feel guilty.
• Walk away and ignore the
  behavior.
• If the child is an “aggressive
  pouter” and follows the parent
  around, use counting.
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                          Children 2-12
The Following Problems Require
   Some Minor Modifications
  Sibling Rivalry                             • Don’t send both
                                             fighting kids to the
• Count both kids                                same room.


• Never ask “What
  happened?” or “Who
  started it?”

• Don’t expect the older
  child to be more mature.
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                              Children 2-12
Counting in Action
       1- 2 -3 Practice
• Role Plays

• Video Clips



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                     Children 2-12
What’s Good About The 1-2-3


• Discipline is less exhausting
• Your authority is not negotiable
• The punishment is brief
• It’s easy to learn




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                             Children 2-12
Questions About Time Out
• How long should the             • What happens when the
  rest period be?                   rest period is over?

                                  • What if the child does
                                    something right after the
                                    rest period is over?

                                  • What if the child never
                                    stops until I get to the
                                    count of 2?
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                        Children 2-12
What To Do In Public
• Child has a powerful weapon
•If in doubt, don’t take them out.
• Use alternative time out locations:
  bathrooms, corner of a store, car,
  front of a store etc.
• Set expectations and possible
  reward system up front.
• Keep moving if child is
  having a tantrum.
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                              Children 2-12
Riding in the Car
• Short Trips: What to do at 3
      - No talking
      - Pull over to side of road
      - Money taken off allowance
• Long Trips:
      - Earn spending money
      - Games
      - VCR
• Don’t leave on a long vacation without
  putting on your thinking cap.
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Frequently Asked Questions
• What do you do if the child counts you back?
• What if there is a problem between children but
  you didn’t see what happened?
• How long do you take between counts?
• If a child hits 1 or 2, does he stay at
  that count for the rest of the day?
• My child has a fit when I try to drop
   him off at preschool!
• Does the room have to be a sterile
   environment?
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                          Children 2-12
Frequently Asked Questions

•   Can you count different misbehaviors to get to 3?
•   Can you ever ignore anything?
•   What if you have other people over?
•   Can you use a time-out chair instead of a room?
•   What if the child won’t stay in his room?
•   What if the child won’t come out?



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                            Children 2-12
Frequently Asked Questions
• Help-my kids go nuts when I am on the phone!!
• Does being counted hurt the child’s self-esteem?
• What if the kid wrecks the room during the “rest
  period”?
• What if your child urinates on the floor during the
  time out?
• Should you ever spank a child?
• Why give kids three chances to misbehave?
• Shouldn’t the kids ever apologize?

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                           Children 2-12
The Kickoff Conversation

 Explain the 1-2-3 and what to expect after each
 count and what happens after a time-out.

Get ready for the Six Kinds of
Testing and Manipulation.




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Part III
No Child Will Thank You




     1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   33
               Children 2-12
The Six Kinds of
Testing Manipulation
      1. Badgering
      2. Intimidation
      3. Threat
      4. Martyrdom
      5. Butter Up
      6. Physical Tactics



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The $64,000 Question
•Does your child have a favorite
tactic?

•What does “it works” mean?

•Do it right


•What to expect

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                         Children 2-12
The Major/Minor System

Major offenses                      Medium offenses
- Stealing                          - Coming home less than
- Fighting                             3 hours late
- Breaking a valuable               - Lying
  item                              Minor offenses
- Playing with fire                 - Coming home less
- Coming home more                    than 1 hour late
   than 3 hours late                - Breaking something
                                      valued at less than $10
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Consequences

Major Consequences                    Medium offenses
- 7 days grounding                    - Three days grounding in
- $10 fine or pay back                   room
  double the value of stolen          - $5 fine
  article                             - 4 hours of chores
- No TV or computer for two           Minor offenses
  weeks                               - One hour grounding in
- 8 hours work around the                room
  house                               - $2 fine
                                      - 2 hours of chores
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The Payoff
Now that you know what the 1-2-3 is all
about, you are ready to get started.

          You will be in good company!
          You can expect RESULTS.
          You can expect less arguing and yelling.

The 1-2-3 works… IF           YOU DO IT!!

                1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for   38
                          Children 2-12

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  • 1. Effective Discipline for Children 2-12 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 1 Children 2-12
  • 2. Dale Sundermann MSW Offutt Family Advocacy & Airman and Family Readiness
  • 3. Who can use 1-2-3 MAGIC? * Parents * Grandparents * Nannies * Sitters * Teachers 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 3 Children 2-12
  • 4. Part I Straight Thinking 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 4 Children 2-12
  • 5. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 5 Children 2-12
  • 6. What Is The Problem? • Kids don’t come with a training manual. • They are either doing what you don’t want them to do. • Or they are not doing what you do want them to do. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 6 Children 2-12
  • 7. START BEHAVIOR and STOP BEHAVIOR When you are having problems with your kids, they are either 1) doing something you would like them to stop 2) not doing something you would like them to start! 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 7 Children 2-12
  • 8. For STOP BEHAVIORS Such As: • Arguing • Fighting • Screaming • Tantrums • Teasing • Whining You will use the “Counting” procedure. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 8 Children 2-12
  • 9. Little Adult Assumption • Words and reason will not always work • Often lead to the Talk- Persuade-Argue-Yell-Hit Syndrome • Think of yourself as a wild animal trainer 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 9 Children 2-12
  • 10. The Wild Animal Trainer Objective: • Choose a training method • Repeat it until it works • If done correctly, you will get results 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 10 Children 2-12
  • 11. The TWO BIGGEST Mistakes Parents Make Too Much Talking & Too Much Emotion 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 11 Children 2-12
  • 12. Too Much Talking is a problem because it either does not work or it takes . you through the Talk-Persuade- Argue-Yell-Hit-Syndrome. Too Much Emotion is a problem because the child enjoys the power that comes with getting a parent upset. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 12 Children 2-12
  • 13. Too Much Talking Can Be Destructive “When children are little they feel inferior, because they are. This lessness bugs them a lot.” Dr. Thomas Phelan 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 13 Children 2-12
  • 14. Who Is Responsible? The child is responsible for his own behavior But too much talking takes the child’s focus off of good behavior and places it on the possibility of a good fight! 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 14 Children 2-12
  • 15. Part II Controlling Obnoxious Behavior 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 15 Children 2-12
  • 16. The 1-2-3 Method First, you will use the 1-2-3, or counting method, to deal with STOP behaviors. The following is a list of some typical STOP behaviors. Arguing Fighting Whining Yelling Tantrums Etc. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 16 Children 2-12
  • 17. The 1-2-3 Method Second, after you hear how to do the 1-2-3, you are likely to become skeptical. • You may say “This is too easy.” • 1-2-3 is simple, but not always easy. • It is very powerful if you follow the “No-Talking, No-Emotion Rules.” 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 17 Children 2-12
  • 18. Using The Counting Method To Stop Obnoxious Behavior • Remember: No • When the behavior Talking and No occurs the parent Emotion. holds up 1 finger and says,“That’s 1.” • Parent waits 5 seconds to see if the behavior continues. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 18 Children 2-12
  • 19. Using The Counting Method To Stop Obnoxious Behavior • Remember: No Talking • If the behavior and No Emotion. continues, the parent holds up two fingers and says “That’s 2.” • Parent waits 5 seconds to see if the behavior continues. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 19 Children 2-12
  • 20. Using The Counting Method To Stop Obnoxious Behavior • Remember: No • If the behavior Talking and No continues, the Emotion. parent holds up three fingers and says. • “That’s 3, take 5.” 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 20 Children 2-12
  • 21. The Automatic 3 Examples • When the child does something very bad Hitting it becomes an Spitting “Automatic” 3 Offensive language Biting 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 21 Children 2-12
  • 22. The Following Problems Require Some Minor Modifications Pouting • Passive behavior designed to make a parent feel guilty. • Walk away and ignore the behavior. • If the child is an “aggressive pouter” and follows the parent around, use counting. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 22 Children 2-12
  • 23. The Following Problems Require Some Minor Modifications Sibling Rivalry • Don’t send both fighting kids to the • Count both kids same room. • Never ask “What happened?” or “Who started it?” • Don’t expect the older child to be more mature. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 23 Children 2-12
  • 24. Counting in Action 1- 2 -3 Practice • Role Plays • Video Clips 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 24 Children 2-12
  • 25. What’s Good About The 1-2-3 • Discipline is less exhausting • Your authority is not negotiable • The punishment is brief • It’s easy to learn 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 25 Children 2-12
  • 26. Questions About Time Out • How long should the • What happens when the rest period be? rest period is over? • What if the child does something right after the rest period is over? • What if the child never stops until I get to the count of 2? 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 26 Children 2-12
  • 27. What To Do In Public • Child has a powerful weapon •If in doubt, don’t take them out. • Use alternative time out locations: bathrooms, corner of a store, car, front of a store etc. • Set expectations and possible reward system up front. • Keep moving if child is having a tantrum. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 27 Children 2-12
  • 28. Riding in the Car • Short Trips: What to do at 3 - No talking - Pull over to side of road - Money taken off allowance • Long Trips: - Earn spending money - Games - VCR • Don’t leave on a long vacation without putting on your thinking cap. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 28 Children 2-12
  • 29. Frequently Asked Questions • What do you do if the child counts you back? • What if there is a problem between children but you didn’t see what happened? • How long do you take between counts? • If a child hits 1 or 2, does he stay at that count for the rest of the day? • My child has a fit when I try to drop him off at preschool! • Does the room have to be a sterile environment? 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 29 Children 2-12
  • 30. Frequently Asked Questions • Can you count different misbehaviors to get to 3? • Can you ever ignore anything? • What if you have other people over? • Can you use a time-out chair instead of a room? • What if the child won’t stay in his room? • What if the child won’t come out? 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 30 Children 2-12
  • 31. Frequently Asked Questions • Help-my kids go nuts when I am on the phone!! • Does being counted hurt the child’s self-esteem? • What if the kid wrecks the room during the “rest period”? • What if your child urinates on the floor during the time out? • Should you ever spank a child? • Why give kids three chances to misbehave? • Shouldn’t the kids ever apologize? 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 31 Children 2-12
  • 32. The Kickoff Conversation Explain the 1-2-3 and what to expect after each count and what happens after a time-out. Get ready for the Six Kinds of Testing and Manipulation. 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 32 Children 2-12
  • 33. Part III No Child Will Thank You 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 33 Children 2-12
  • 34. The Six Kinds of Testing Manipulation 1. Badgering 2. Intimidation 3. Threat 4. Martyrdom 5. Butter Up 6. Physical Tactics 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 34 Children 2-12
  • 35. The $64,000 Question •Does your child have a favorite tactic? •What does “it works” mean? •Do it right •What to expect 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 35 Children 2-12
  • 36. The Major/Minor System Major offenses Medium offenses - Stealing - Coming home less than - Fighting 3 hours late - Breaking a valuable - Lying item Minor offenses - Playing with fire - Coming home less - Coming home more than 1 hour late than 3 hours late - Breaking something valued at less than $10 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 36 Children 2-12
  • 37. Consequences Major Consequences Medium offenses - 7 days grounding - Three days grounding in - $10 fine or pay back room double the value of stolen - $5 fine article - 4 hours of chores - No TV or computer for two Minor offenses weeks - One hour grounding in - 8 hours work around the room house - $2 fine - 2 hours of chores 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 37 Children 2-12
  • 38. The Payoff Now that you know what the 1-2-3 is all about, you are ready to get started. You will be in good company! You can expect RESULTS. You can expect less arguing and yelling. The 1-2-3 works… IF YOU DO IT!! 1-2-3 Magic Effective Discipline for 38 Children 2-12