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  the triadic dialectics of August Deese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U
introduction

- three outta two ain’t bad
- private investigations

 Hegel versus Deese : the logical song


  the proof of the pudding is in the eating
- in life                  ... in my life
- in anthropopsychiatry ... mama weer all crazee now
- in therapy                ... I don’t wanna talk about it


 open dialogue         : ‘there must be some way out of here’
introduction

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three outta two ain’t bad




dialogue  2


all good things come in threes

- structurally
                             in life
- clinically
private investigations


         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K27HvhDxA
August Deese


Jacques Schotte
August Deese (1928 – 1988)

‘the unknown philosopher’

“c’est le philosophe le plus original et le plus important de
Fribourg depuis Heidegger” (Albert Chapelle s.j.)
(Schotte, 2006, p. 118)

It’s the most original and the most important philosopher since
Heidegger

 “pas une phrase, pas un mot”
 “il a tout emporté avec lui dans sa tombe”
 (Schotte, 2006, p. 124)


 Not a sentence, not a word
 He took everything to his grave
Jacques Schotte (Ghent, 1928 – 2007, Ghent)
Hegel vs. Deese




 Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
 (Stuttgart, 27 augustus 1770 – Berlijn, 14 november
 1831)
http://www.wat.tv/video/supertramp-the-logical-song-1979-35rbx_2g9el_.html
all good things come in threes

the Hegelian dialectic




   endless repetition of itself (closed system)
the triadic dialectics of August Deese




transcends the classical dialectic, opening something new (open system)

 ‘ouverture globale’
term 1   term 2     term 3

                  • dialectic
                    relation
                    as such
T R A N S F O R MA T I O N




first term - second term - third term


     dialectic tension




                   dialectic relation as such
essential difference

the third term is the dialectic relation

breaking open the first term

mediated by the second term



leading to transformation
‘it’s just because of the third term

that the whole can articulate itself

ànd that the difference between the two other terms

can be transcended’

(Schotte, p. 54)
accent on the last of the three terms,

because this is their ‘real goal and real origin’

(‘leur véritable but et leur vraie origine’)

 Notice pour introduire le problème structural de la Schicksalsanalyse
 In: Jacques Schotte, Szondi avec Freud, Ed. De Boeck-Wesmael, 1990, p. 53
KERNEL

in the ontogenetic order

is involved

in reversed direction

an ontological order




     the goal becomes the origin
the proof of the pudding
  is in the eating
IN LIFE


  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQpRgxyyqo
BASIS

        FOUNDATION

                     ORIGIN
BASIS

- Greek: marching, firmness

- in relation to the mother(ly) (f.i. basic trust)

- enables to stay upright

- staying alive ...
FOUNDATION


- sustains the BASIS

- in relation to the Father: Père/Pairs (father/peers)

- in relation to the Law
ORIGIN

- Latin: oriri: being born

- the thrill to live as the subject itself

- ... life that the father and the mother can’t give
the developmental (ontogenetic) perspective:

mother & father  the child




the structural (non-genetic, ontological) perspective
basis       foundation




developmental ‘Mother comes first’ ...




structural     the Father(ly) supports the Mother(ly)
               the foundation of the basis
origin




structural perspective

everybody is continually called to find in the first
two terms the germs of its own origin

through transformation of the first two terms
towards a transformation of itself

developmental perspective

the adolescence as the beginning of being oneself
IN ANTHROPOPSYCHIATRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gPulu85q04
Le Prix de
l’Évolution psychiatrique 2009
Leo Ruelens
Naar een nieuwe psychiatrie - Het rebelse denken van Jacques Schotte

Literarte, Kessel-Lo 2010
the typical human psychopathologies

affecting the human person

às human being
4 ground pathologies
thymopsychopathy

- mood disorders
- toxicomania
- psychopathy

perversion


neurosis


psychosis
1) neurosis as the negative of perversion (Freud)




    ‘Neurose ist sozusagen das Negativ der
    Perversion.’

    Freud, Drei Abhandlungen zur Sexualtheorie, 1905
‘ the pervert is doing what the neurotic is dreaming of’
  (Freud)
2) classes   ( DSM )




interactive pathological ground structures
of being entangled in psychopathology
third term


PSYCHOSIS          PERVERSION




                                second term
THYMOPSYCHOPATHY   NEUROSIS



     first term
IN THERAPY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZSZVmTzzM
dire      discourir     parler

Sagen     Reden         Sprechen

talking   discoursing   speaking
dire       Sagen   talking


to do a lot of talking

to run out of words
discourir            Reden            discoursing



an intersubjective reference

a subject wants to influence the other(s)
parler        Sprechen         speaking



a real dialogue

transformation: still the same, not the same anymore
giving a new dynamic

by means of the second term (discoursing)

to the first term (talking)

keeping the speech act and therapeutic change open
the heart of the matter
Jean Oury (° 1924)

founder and ‘médecin directeur’ of
‘La Borde’ in Cour- Cheverny (France)

One of the founding fathers of the
‘Psychothérapie Institutionnelle’
‘ouvrir les systèmes institutionnels cloisonnés’

opening the closed institutionnel systems


  in the broad sense of the word !

‘dialectiser les systèmes’

dialecting the systems
‘(...)
elle ne débouche en tout cas pas sur une synthèse
clôturante,

mais plutôt sur

une réouverture ou une remobilisation.’
(p. 133)



 it does not lead in any way to a closing synthesis

 but more to

 an opening anew or a mobilisation anew.
open dialogue
The Open Dialogue Approach to Acute Psychosis:
Its Poetics and Micropolitics

Jaakko Seikkula
Mary E. Olson

Family Process, 2003




poetics

  tolerance of uncertainty

  dialogism

  polyphony in social network
tolerance of uncertainty




       making talking (dire) possible ...
dialogism




the aim of discoursing
the prevailing discours
polyphony




  many voices, still two to tango :

    the professional system
    the non-professional system
k e r n e l q u e s t i o ns

for

the Open Dialogue approach


- where is speaking (parler, Sprechen)
  as the transforming term?

- the third term: crucial or not ?
to speak or not to speak
that’s the question ...
Here, there and everywhere
nothing compares 2 3 ?
mirror stage (Lacan)




master – slave dialectic (Hegel): live and let die




i m p a s s e

    *   psychoanalysis
    *   anthropology
    *   philosophy
    *   in life
open Dialogue ...
the third term
breaches
the impasse



the core factor
for the whole
implemented

in philosophy (August Deese)

in psychoanalysis (Lacan: the-Name-of-the-Father)

in anthropopsychiatry (Jacques Schotte)

in life

          to be implemented

   in the Open Dialogue approach ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LKMogdjm8

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