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CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Cheque	
  Mates:	
  	
  
Participatory	
  Design	
  of	
  Digital	
  Payments	
  with	
  Eighty	
  Somethings	
  

John	
  Vines,	
  Mark	
  Blythe,	
  Paul	
  Dunphy,	
  Vasillis	
  
Vlachokyriakos,	
  Isaac	
  Teece,	
  Andrew	
  Monk,	
  Patrick	
  Olivier	
  7	
  
1	
  of	
  1

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Workshops	
  on	
  designing	
  future	
  banking	
  technologies	
  
and	
  services	
  
	
  
16	
  participants;	
  80-­‐87	
  years	
  of	
  age	
  (eighty	
  
somethings)	
  
	
  
12	
  workshops	
  over	
  6	
  months	
  (turnout	
  of	
  between	
  2	
  
and	
  6	
  per	
  workshop)	
  
	
  
Cheques	
  (and	
  their	
  demise)	
  were	
  a	
  focal	
  point	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

2	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“a	
  paper	
  promise	
  to	
  pay”	
  –	
  See:	
  Cheque	
  and	
  Credit	
  Clearing	
  Company,	
  2001	
  
Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

3	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“Poor	
   banks,	
   doesn’t	
   your	
   heart	
   bleed	
   for	
   them.	
   If	
   they	
   just	
   cancelled	
  
one	
  person’s	
  bonus,	
  they	
  would	
  have	
  no	
  problems.”	
  -­‐	
  Mary,	
  81	
  
See:	
  Vines	
  et	
  al.	
  2012.	
  The	
  Joy	
  of	
  Cheques:	
  Trust,	
  Paper	
  and	
  Eighty	
  Somethings	
  
Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

4	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Betty:	
  It	
  would	
  have	
  to	
  be	
  a	
  
voluntary	
  group	
  would	
  it?	
  
	
  
Helen:	
  A	
  not	
  for	
  proIit	
  
organisation,	
  yes	
  ...	
  You	
  set	
  that	
  
up	
  and	
  we’ll	
  all	
  come.	
  
	
  
Anna:	
  I	
  think	
  you	
  should	
  go	
  into	
  
partnership	
  you	
  two.	
  
	
  
Ruth:	
  That	
  would	
  be	
  one	
  in	
  the	
  
eye	
  for	
  the	
  banks	
  if	
  you	
  went	
  
independent.	
  	
  Let’s	
  join	
  John’s	
  
bank.	
  

“I	
   don’t	
   see	
   that	
   working.”	
   “It	
  
seems	
  so	
  complicated.	
   	
  It’s	
  so	
  easy	
  
just	
  to	
  have	
  a	
  bank	
  account.”	
  
	
  
“One	
  more	
  hassle.”	
  
	
  
“I	
  don’t	
  think	
  that’s	
  very	
  practical	
  
because	
   there	
   aren’t	
   that	
   many	
  
Age	
   Concern	
   branches	
   and	
   if	
   you	
  
live	
  in	
  the	
  country	
  or	
  somewhere.”	
  
	
  
“No”	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

5	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

COMMUNITY	
  ‘CHEQUE	
  MATES’	
  

Participant	
  is	
  given	
  a	
  £20	
  
Cheque	
  book	
  

‘Encouraging’	
  friends,	
  family,	
  
traders,	
  etc	
  into	
  accepting	
  
Payee	
  writes	
  account	
  number,	
  
Sort-­‐code	
  and	
  name	
  on	
  rear	
  

Post	
  it	
  to	
  me,	
  and	
  I	
  perform	
  
an	
  online	
  payment	
  to	
  payee	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

6	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

4	
  Participants	
  
	
  
	
  
Cheques	
  ‘paid	
  in’	
  by:	
  
newsagent;	
  window	
  cleaner;	
  
yoga	
  teacher;	
  neighbours;	
  
grandchildren	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

7	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“[She]	
   absolutely	
   slaughtered	
   me.	
   I	
   mean,	
   they’re	
   …	
  
friends	
  really,	
  I	
  thought.	
  But	
  you	
  know	
  …	
  “Mike’s	
  not	
  
having	
   anything	
   to	
   do	
   with	
   this.	
   He	
   wouldn’t	
   be	
  
caught	
   by	
   a	
   scam	
   like	
   this.	
   You’ve	
   picked	
   the	
   wrong	
  
person	
   here.”	
   And	
   I	
   said,	
   “Hey,	
   hang	
   on!	
   This	
   isn’t	
   a	
  
scam,	
  as	
  I	
  explained.	
  It’s	
  a	
  proper	
  university	
  research	
  
project.”	
  –	
  “I	
  don’t	
  care	
  what	
  it	
  is.	
  We	
  have	
  to	
  have	
  a	
  
written	
   guarantee	
   of	
   what’s	
   going	
   to	
   happen	
   to	
   all	
  
these	
   details.	
   He	
   wouldn’t	
   write	
   all	
   this	
   on	
   the	
   back,	
  
and	
   he’s	
   so	
   careful	
   when	
   he	
   does	
   this,	
   that	
   and	
   the	
  
other.”	
  -­‐Iris,	
  81	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

8	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Participants	
  engaged	
  with	
  the	
  
idea…	
  
	
  
Most	
  payees	
  accepted	
  the	
  
cheques	
  and	
  sent	
  them	
  to	
  the	
  
‘clearing	
  house’	
  
	
  
	
  

Writing	
  down	
  bank	
  details	
  on	
  
the	
  rear	
  is	
  experienced	
  as	
  a	
  
large	
  security	
  risk	
  
	
  
This	
  is	
  made	
  a	
  larger	
  concern	
  
when	
  the	
  ‘bank’	
  is	
  unknown	
  
	
  
Entering	
  in	
  multiple	
  payments	
  
online	
  one-­‐by-­‐one	
  is	
  very	
  time	
  
consuming	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

9	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“Yes	
  you	
  see	
  if	
  I’ve	
  written	
  a	
  cheque	
  or	
  the	
  equivalent	
  of	
  
a	
  cheque	
  on	
  that	
  paper	
  and	
  I	
  give	
  it	
  to	
  the	
  plumber	
  for	
  
the	
  boiler	
  ….	
  He	
  gives	
  it	
  into	
  his	
  bank	
  or	
  he	
  could	
  send	
  it	
  
direct	
   to	
   […]	
   the	
   clearing	
   centre	
   and	
   then	
   because	
  
that’s	
   authorised	
   on	
   my	
   paper	
   then	
   they	
   can	
   instruct	
  
my	
  bank	
  to	
  pay	
  his	
  bank.”	
  -­‐	
  Agatha,	
  81	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

10	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

DIGITAL	
  ‘CHEQUE	
  MATES’	
  

look,	
  feel,	
  used	
  like	
  a	
  cheque	
  ;	
  authorise	
  box	
  ;	
  keep	
  the	
  ‘cheque’	
  
Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

11	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

DIGITAL	
  ‘CHEQUE	
  MATES’	
  

look,	
  feel,	
  used	
  like	
  a	
  cheque	
  ;	
  authorise	
  box	
  ;	
  keep	
  the	
  ‘cheque’	
  ;	
  self-­‐contained	
  ;	
  ‘safe’	
  
Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

12	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

13	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“I’ve	
   got	
   this	
   as	
   a	
   stub	
   to	
   know	
   what	
   I’ve	
   done.	
  	
  
As	
   opposed	
   to	
   it	
   being	
   electronic	
   and	
   on	
   a	
  
computer,	
  which	
  I	
  could	
  knock	
  off	
  by	
  accident	
  
at	
   any	
   time,	
   or	
   anything.	
   It’s	
   all	
   here	
   on	
  
paper…	
  That	
  impresses	
  me,	
  absolutely.”	
  	
  
-­‐	
  Patricia,	
  82	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

14	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

“you	
  need	
  a	
  PhD	
  to	
  use	
  this!”	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  
	
  -­‐Iris,	
  82	
  	
  

“When	
  you	
  read	
  the	
  instructions,	
  it	
  has	
  you	
  a	
  bit	
  
dumbfounded,	
  but	
  when	
  you	
  get	
  down	
  to	
  [it],	
  it’s	
  
quite	
  simple	
  to	
  use.”	
  	
  -­‐	
  Margaret,	
  82	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

15	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

technology	
  that	
  preserves,	
  rather	
  than	
  replaces	
  
responding	
  to	
  the	
  challenges	
  ;	
  questioning	
  their	
  criticisms	
  	
  
dialogue	
  lead	
  to	
  mutual	
  change	
  

Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

16	
  of	
  17	
  
CHI	
  2012,	
  Austin,	
  TX,	
  7th	
  May	
  2012	
  	
  

Thank	
  You!	
  (again)	
  
Please	
  come	
  to	
  our	
  SIG:	
  
“Participation	
  and	
  HCI:	
  Why	
  Involve	
  
People	
  in	
  Design?”	
  
	
  
Thursday	
  :	
  1130-­‐1250	
  :	
  Room	
  11A	
  
Cheque	
  Mates	
  –	
  Vines,	
  Blythe,	
  Dunphy,	
  Vlachokyriakos,	
  Teece,	
  Monk	
  &	
  Olivier	
  

17	
  of	
  17	
  

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Designing Digital Payments with Seniors

  • 1. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Cheque  Mates:     Participatory  Design  of  Digital  Payments  with  Eighty  Somethings   John  Vines,  Mark  Blythe,  Paul  Dunphy,  Vasillis   Vlachokyriakos,  Isaac  Teece,  Andrew  Monk,  Patrick  Olivier  7   1  of  1 Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier  
  • 2. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Workshops  on  designing  future  banking  technologies   and  services     16  participants;  80-­‐87  years  of  age  (eighty   somethings)     12  workshops  over  6  months  (turnout  of  between  2   and  6  per  workshop)     Cheques  (and  their  demise)  were  a  focal  point   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   2  of  17  
  • 3. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “a  paper  promise  to  pay”  –  See:  Cheque  and  Credit  Clearing  Company,  2001   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   3  of  17  
  • 4. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “Poor   banks,   doesn’t   your   heart   bleed   for   them.   If   they   just   cancelled   one  person’s  bonus,  they  would  have  no  problems.”  -­‐  Mary,  81   See:  Vines  et  al.  2012.  The  Joy  of  Cheques:  Trust,  Paper  and  Eighty  Somethings   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   4  of  17  
  • 5. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Betty:  It  would  have  to  be  a   voluntary  group  would  it?     Helen:  A  not  for  proIit   organisation,  yes  ...  You  set  that   up  and  we’ll  all  come.     Anna:  I  think  you  should  go  into   partnership  you  two.     Ruth:  That  would  be  one  in  the   eye  for  the  banks  if  you  went   independent.    Let’s  join  John’s   bank.   “I   don’t   see   that   working.”   “It   seems  so  complicated.    It’s  so  easy   just  to  have  a  bank  account.”     “One  more  hassle.”     “I  don’t  think  that’s  very  practical   because   there   aren’t   that   many   Age   Concern   branches   and   if   you   live  in  the  country  or  somewhere.”     “No”   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   5  of  17  
  • 6. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     COMMUNITY  ‘CHEQUE  MATES’   Participant  is  given  a  £20   Cheque  book   ‘Encouraging’  friends,  family,   traders,  etc  into  accepting   Payee  writes  account  number,   Sort-­‐code  and  name  on  rear   Post  it  to  me,  and  I  perform   an  online  payment  to  payee   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   6  of  17  
  • 7. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     4  Participants       Cheques  ‘paid  in’  by:   newsagent;  window  cleaner;   yoga  teacher;  neighbours;   grandchildren   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   7  of  17  
  • 8. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “[She]   absolutely   slaughtered   me.   I   mean,   they’re   …   friends  really,  I  thought.  But  you  know  …  “Mike’s  not   having   anything   to   do   with   this.   He   wouldn’t   be   caught   by   a   scam   like   this.   You’ve   picked   the   wrong   person   here.”   And   I   said,   “Hey,   hang   on!   This   isn’t   a   scam,  as  I  explained.  It’s  a  proper  university  research   project.”  –  “I  don’t  care  what  it  is.  We  have  to  have  a   written   guarantee   of   what’s   going   to   happen   to   all   these   details.   He   wouldn’t   write   all   this   on   the   back,   and   he’s   so   careful   when   he   does   this,   that   and   the   other.”  -­‐Iris,  81   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   8  of  17  
  • 9. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Participants  engaged  with  the   idea…     Most  payees  accepted  the   cheques  and  sent  them  to  the   ‘clearing  house’       Writing  down  bank  details  on   the  rear  is  experienced  as  a   large  security  risk     This  is  made  a  larger  concern   when  the  ‘bank’  is  unknown     Entering  in  multiple  payments   online  one-­‐by-­‐one  is  very  time   consuming   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   9  of  17  
  • 10. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “Yes  you  see  if  I’ve  written  a  cheque  or  the  equivalent  of   a  cheque  on  that  paper  and  I  give  it  to  the  plumber  for   the  boiler  ….  He  gives  it  into  his  bank  or  he  could  send  it   direct   to   […]   the   clearing   centre   and   then   because   that’s   authorised   on   my   paper   then   they   can   instruct   my  bank  to  pay  his  bank.”  -­‐  Agatha,  81   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   10  of  17  
  • 11. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     DIGITAL  ‘CHEQUE  MATES’   look,  feel,  used  like  a  cheque  ;  authorise  box  ;  keep  the  ‘cheque’   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   11  of  17  
  • 12. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     DIGITAL  ‘CHEQUE  MATES’   look,  feel,  used  like  a  cheque  ;  authorise  box  ;  keep  the  ‘cheque’  ;  self-­‐contained  ;  ‘safe’   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   12  of  17  
  • 13. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   13  of  17  
  • 14. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “I’ve   got   this   as   a   stub   to   know   what   I’ve   done.     As   opposed   to   it   being   electronic   and   on   a   computer,  which  I  could  knock  off  by  accident   at   any   time,   or   anything.   It’s   all   here   on   paper…  That  impresses  me,  absolutely.”     -­‐  Patricia,  82   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   14  of  17  
  • 15. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     “you  need  a  PhD  to  use  this!”          -­‐Iris,  82     “When  you  read  the  instructions,  it  has  you  a  bit   dumbfounded,  but  when  you  get  down  to  [it],  it’s   quite  simple  to  use.”    -­‐  Margaret,  82   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   15  of  17  
  • 16. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     technology  that  preserves,  rather  than  replaces   responding  to  the  challenges  ;  questioning  their  criticisms     dialogue  lead  to  mutual  change   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   16  of  17  
  • 17. CHI  2012,  Austin,  TX,  7th  May  2012     Thank  You!  (again)   Please  come  to  our  SIG:   “Participation  and  HCI:  Why  Involve   People  in  Design?”     Thursday  :  1130-­‐1250  :  Room  11A   Cheque  Mates  –  Vines,  Blythe,  Dunphy,  Vlachokyriakos,  Teece,  Monk  &  Olivier   17  of  17